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Portugal only won 1 match out of 7 within 90 mins

The gods are smiling on Ororo this season. WPOTY!

Pepe deserves some accolades this season.

A40:
Ibime congratulations in advance. Where my share as e dey hot

Na only £48 I go win. Na wetin I go use shayo next weekend. Not bad for a £2 stake though!

And to think I was pissed when I picked Portugal from the hat!

Edeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrr!!!

This guy is either hungry or stùpid to take a job in Somalia

dopeJemi:
Please what is the name of this thing? There's an "o" in the name, it's a seven letter word

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Cc: ibime, nihilist, griffon, GBR1, FBS, pamcode, sailorXY, lana1, and everybody

E urgent abeg

How Granola take urgent?

If you no buy am you go die?

Neven Subotic is available for £5m.

Two years ago this was one of the best defenders in the world.

Raumdeuter, what happened to him and is he still worth signing?

I know I would definitely sign him because he was even better than Hummels then.

FBS:
Yes, that's very true. Remind me please who was dancing "put your hands in air, put your hands in the air" against Italy?

And wave em like you just don't care!

Someone needs to check Patrice Evra blood for drugs. This old man no want tire. No wonder Juve gave him 2 year contract.

Umtiti has been imperious today.

And one technical eediot decided to spend £25m on Rahman when Umtiti was going for £15m-£20m last summer.

LordEmperoris1:
Burndisleague dominated team ve dumped out by epl team. lloris, sagna, evra(ex epl)
, sissoko, kante, martial, koscienly, giroud etc

You forgot Payet, Mangala and Cabaye.

Dayo go cry today.

raumdeuter:
How many EPL came to the Euros

The team with the most EPL players a.k.a Engerland where dem dey?

Who told Bayernliga players not to qualify for Euros?

Raumdeuter how many Bayernliga players left in Euros and how many EPL players?

Nigga I cant count.

raumdeuter:
Was that a counter attack or France was dominating possession or which of your scenarios did that play fit

That was a meat and drink defensive header that normal defenders eat up. Nigga I'm 6ft 4" and I can't jump.

Raumdeuter see as Giroud disgrace your boy there. Howedes had to save him.

Please don't tell us about beasting later o.

Nihilist:
You were the one that doesn't seem to know what you are arguing about. Pamcode said we are were a midtable team before Roman came....you came in and said we were never a midtable team...and your backing evidence is CUP history.


Abi is there table in Cup again?

What is this one saying?

A team that never finished lower than 6th in the time period in question and you were nodding head like Agama lizard for him.

Mind you he even said lower midtable.

Then you came to tell us that Newcastle and Leeds are bigger in that period shows you are just googling and not living the period.

It took Dayo to come and tell you that in Europe nobody bar Manure was higher regarded than Chelsea, yet you are typing nonsense about finishing in top 4 that doesn't even matter to that era.

Carry go abeg.

Nihilist:
Anybody could and still can beat anybody else in the league.

Yet in the 6 years prior to Roman's arrival, we only finished inside the top 4 twice.

What is the problem with young niggas?

Being strongheaded is a bad trait abeg.

WTF is top 4 in the 1990s? Do you think anyone in that era cares about top 4?

Please stop drawing conclusions of olden days through 2016 eyes.

In those days, if you can't win the league and you are in 2nd place, you would rather finish 5th and concentrate on cup.

Every season Chelsea was a top 3 team for most of the season, and every season we relaxed in the league to chase Cup competitions.

Its like now no one cares whether you finish 5th or 9th.

You're the kind of nigga who if Pele boasts that he won Paulista Championship in 1965, you will start making noise that is it only common State Championship that Pele is boasting about, not knowing that Paulista Championship could be the stiffest competition in the world in 1965.

See UCL cash distribution in 1990s compared to now and you'll see why clubs could prioritise going deep in FA Cup or UEFA Cup to struggling to finish in UCL spot.

Nateevs do you remember anyone fighting for top 4 in 1990s?

Nihilist:
I don't really agree with the whole top 3 statement, based on cup wins....but for sake of argument, let me even concede that point
Like I said top 3 is consequential, because the gap between number 2 and number 3 was a chasm that took us 49 years to cross.
The gap between 1st and 3rd best took us 54 whopping years to cross
54 years.
That's what we're talking about here. League wise, we were nothing special. Definitely not better than Leeds, Liverpool or Newcastle.
It's easier to do better in the cup than win the league. Afterall Everton had won the FA cup around that same period. Leeds was reaching the semifinals of the UCL. Newcastle was appearing in back to back FA cup finals in that era. And like I said before, we actually played Aston Villa and Middlesbrough in our FA cup final that year.
You likened us to Sevilla who cannot talk where Barca is today
You cannot tell me you don't remember when the EPL was a battle for second, cos we knew who would win.

You can only talk retrospectively by looking at the books and drawing conclusions. I'm telling you how ninjas were feeling back then.

Then you had Juventus blocking Italian League and Manure blocking EPL.

It still didn't stop WPOTY Ronaldo leaving Barca to join Inter who hadn't won league since the days of Mussolini.

Batigol, Zanetti, Crespo. . . big big boys were playing in clubs not league winners.

People were not desperate for UCL then. Even league title does not exclude you from being a top club.

All we know is Chelsea were shaking Europe then.

When Madrid faced us in 1998 SuperCup and we beat them 1-0, you don't need Nastradamus to tell you that Chelsea is a big boy.

Newcastle, Leeds and Liverpool were not shaking anything.

Marcel Desailly after winning 1998 World Cup at the age of 29 flew back to Milan packed his bags and told em he is going to Chelsea.

I don't see such calibre of player moving to Sevilla today.

You have to live in that period to know what Chelseas standing was. We were no small club.

Nihilist:
Our name was not bigger than Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle etc.

You must be joking.

We were the 3rd best and renowned club in the late 1990s.

Your experience of Leeds is limited to 2003.

You will not get top Italian internationals like Di Matteo, Vialli, Desailly or Casiraghi leaving the best clubs in the World to join Newcastle, Liverpool or Leeds.

Our name was shaking shít back then.

Nihilist:
The only thing you can say is that we were good in the cups....as Ibime said, like Sevilla. But dem born Sevilla to gbemu where Madrid and Barca dey?

Like Dayo said, there was no Madrid or Barca then.

Only 1 team qualified for UCL per league. You will usually find Madrid or Barca in UEFA Cup or Cup Winners Cup with you.

See the way Barca celebrated when they won 1997 Cup Winners Cup lime say World done end

1 year later we won the same thing.

Believe me our name was big in Europe then.

It is even small clubs from small leagues like Nantes, Monaco and Ajax that you see competing in UCL semifinals.

Big boys always fought in UEFA CUP and CWC like Barca, Inter etc.

pamcode:
Almost all of those players were sold almost the same time isn't it. Can you tell me what could have made such Super stars to leave for the likes of juve, madrid, millan etc to win more trophies i guess.

Financial problems at Parmalat, the company that owned Parma.

pamcode:
We won European Cup Winners Cup, European Super Cup, FA Cup twice, League Cup once, All in the 7 years before Abramovic.

So right wonderful achievement for us but fact is it was no better than what Parma achieved between 1996-2001 and guess what they were mid table and they still are mid table, they became poaching ground for stronger clubs and that would have been our story If not for Abramovich's money.

Ibimeeeeee i want you to get a picture of Abramovic or an effigy and every night before you sleep or early in the morning when you wake up, kneel before it and say Thank you 21 times with due reverence Pal.

Parma was a big club then. You can't judge the past with the eyes of the present.

When you have Buffon, Cannavaro, Thuram, Dino Baggio, Sensini, Fernando Couto, Crespo, Asprilla, Zola etc you definitely talking about a big club.

Back then UCL doesn't mean as much as now. Winning UEFA or CWC was better than reaching UCL semis.

You had teams like Monaco, Marseille, Ajax, Dortmund, Porto going far and winning UCL even. It was not a be all and end all like now

Nihilist:
One of the FA cup wins sef was the one that Manyoo boycotted.

If there's any indicator how stark the difference in levels was between us and United then, it is that.

We are holding on to that FA cup win as success in a year when Manyoo United decided to look past that and compete on the world stage.

Nigga that's deep.

Nah nigga. Utd didn't boycott anything.

English FA begged Utd to drop out of FA Cup because they were bidding for 2006 World Cup and wanted to be on good terms with FIFA.

What had happened was that Blatter had a crazy idea to hold the Club World Cup as a proper tournament with group stages and everything, that was going to take 3 weeks to a month almost. United said its not feasible to take 3 weeks out of their season to play 5 matches for that tournament so FA begged them to drop out of FA Cup and go to the tournament to help Englands World Cup bid.

As it happened, Utd didn't even take that tournament seriously crashing out in the group stage to the likes of Necaxa of Mexico.

Anyway my point is that fellow Chelsea fans should not talk down our history and make it seem that we are a bunch of gloryhunters who were nowhere before Abramovic. Before Abramovic, you could still catch fun and success supporting this club every season. Every season you were guaranteed to be in one semifinal or final or another and to win things. Its not like supporting Stoke. It's not even like supporting Spurs or Liverpool. It was like supporting Sevilla because you are guaranteed action every season.

Lack of UCL qualification meant nothing then. You have to live in that period to know what was important. There wasn't much money involved in UCL till 2003. It did not matter whether you qualified or not. It was winning trophies that mattered, not UCL qualification. That's why I say that period is more successful than Arsenals last 7 years.

Back then only Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea were winning trophies consistently. Liverpool only won some trophies in 2001. Apart from that, it was Chelsea, Manure and Arsenal only.

Nihilist:
I disagree. Arsenal has consistently finished in the top 4 and UCL places since.

The 7 years before Roman I think we finished 6th 3 times and 5th once.

I only really started following footy in 99, but I remember Chelsea being no better than Leeds who also went to UCL semis and finished in top 4 on several occasions.

Arsenal was and still is expected to challenge for the title evert year. We weren't.

At best, I'd say we were like Liverpool in the mid noughties, at worst, I'd say we were like Spurs same period.

I can't stress enough how dominant Manyoo were in that era.

the 4th best team in the country those days carries as much weight as as the 4th best team in the Bundesliga today.

As at 2003, EPL had been running for 11 years. United had won the title 8 of those years.

It's not like the FA Cups that we won really means anything sef. Back then anybody could get to the final. Our two finals in that era were vs Middlesborough and Aston Villa.

Add in the cup successes and any fan would tell you Chelsea is more successful than Arsenal over the 7 year comparison.

Most seasons we were primed to finish 3rd but switched focus to Cup runs a bit like RDM in 2012.

Chelsea was almost like the Sevilla of that time in comparison which I consider more successful than just finishing in fourth every season.

Finishing 4th then didn't profit us as there was no UCL place so we became Cup specialists.

Anyway the main point is that Chelsea was no midtable team.

Nihilist:
Back then though, there was nothing like big 4.

There was United. Then there was everybody else. The gap between United and the rest of the top 4 is probably equivalent to the gap between three current top 6/7 and the rest of the league.

It's no different from United from 2010 to 2013.

Chelsea was no midtable team unlike the popular lies being peddled.

The only difference was that only 2 or 3 teams qualified for UCL back then.

In 2000 we went to UCL QF. Barca needed extra time to knock us out.

Chelsea last 7 years before Abramovic is better than Arsenals last 7 years from 2009 to 2016.

pamcode:
Chelsea was the biggest spender in Europe hell yes without Chelsea spending that way how were we supposed to move from lower mid- table to win the Premier League out of the grasp of the two giants, or how were we supposed to attract the world class players to take us to the level we wanted seeing we had no pedigree to boast of.

I don't like when niggas yarn nonsense like Chelsea was a lower midtable team before Abramovic. Some of us were here then.

Chelsea was the 4th best team in England between 1997 and 2003. We never finished lower than 6th, sometimes finishing 3rd or 4th.

We won:

European Cup Winners Cup
European Super Cup
FA Cup twice
League Cup once

All in the 7 years before Abramovic.

Or do you think the likes of Zola, DiMatteo, Lebeouf, Vialli, Desailly, Mark Hughes, Albert Ferrer, Le Saux and co came here to sell akara and finish lower midtable?

Spits.

C'mon Portugal, bring this money home to Daddy

CFCman:
Pop quiz:
Who is the only Nigerian player to score 2 or more goals in a World Cup match? And the fastest Nigerian World Cup goal?

New Leicester striker Ahmed Musa on both counts.

2nd fastest should be SiaSia vs Argentina in 1994.

Bimffo:
I don't like anything from the Italian league.. Anything from the league is kinda hyped.

Benatia, One of Best defenders in Italian league then couldn't hold a spot in the Bayern Munich's Line Up last season.

A season where Kimmich and Alaba were paired to play CB. (Correct me if I am wrong)..


So, I don't know if the Ninja is worth 30 million £.


He is African.. His official age is 25.. Just add 5 to it. you will get his real age.

He was born in France so his age is legit.

raumdeuter:
He cant clear balls in the box

https://j.gifs.com/vbo79r.gif

He is not marking a man here. He is just running to his own goal by himself and the ball falls to him.

Check when he is running with Benzema against Madrid how Benzema lost him like a schoolboy defender for an easy tap in. These are the kind of crosses that the greatest defenders cutout umpteen times a game.

raumdeuter:
So an attack of Messi, Aguero Higuain was not able to put Boateng under pressure

Basically you lack any point and are just grabbing at straws,

Boateng does well because Bayern dominates possesion I show you a game where Bayern didnt dominate possesion for 180 and conceded 0 goals now you are twisting and wriithing in pains like an earthworm who fell into salt

Messi, Higuain and co did not put him under penalty box pressure. He was dealing with counterattacks mostly.

Pointing to the rudderless reign of Jourdi Roura will not convince us that was a game Boateng held up under pressure. Imagine giving us match against Jordi Rouras dead Barcelona as evidence that Boateng can defend his penalty box.

All we know is everytime Madrid and Barca attacked Boatengs box in 2014 and 2015, it was a goal.

Look at Benzemas first goal against Bayern here. This is a situation organised defenders deal with easily (Bonucci did plenty of this today). A simple lateral ball that most good defenders would cut out at the near post, Alago lets Boateng lose him on the run. Airmark abeg give him the gif of this first goal if you fit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs1IY__RryY