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NavierStokes:
Does this economy look like one in which they have spent 330 billion since the budget was passed in may, not forgetting their excuses on procurement processes lasting up to 6 months.
After God, fear APC! !!

That is less than $1bln dollars my friend. What do you expect $1bln to do in the size of a country like Naija. That is what local governments would spend in some countries.

Spy360:
If you are on loan just to fill the squad then you are more useless than initially thought.

Kinsley Coman was on loan, whether it was a lease or not. A loan deal can be made permanent depending on the contractual agreement. Even Torres was on loan last season at Athletico,.

Kingsley Coman's loan is a €14m Euro loan fee with an option to purchase at €20m ie they have already started paying the players full purchase price within the loan structure.

At the end of his loan, Bayern would have paid €34m for the player. . . . . or a €14m penalty for misuse of the talent, if they choose not to make him permanent.

He is therefore virtually a Bayern player and would have to be really crap not to get opportunities. Such structure guarantees opportunities, and only a really washed player will fail to capitalise (eg Falcao at Man Utd).

A traditional loan however would pay £0-£1m for use of the player over the year, with no incentive for the loaning club to develop the player especially if they have another player who is close to the level of the loanee.

A traditional loan is Serge Gnabry, a youngster who played so well for Arsenal 2 years ago, only to be told by Tony Pulis that he is not good enough for West Brom after one appearance. Are you kidding me?

Tony Pulis does not care about the development of the player and would not take the time to develop or coach him into what he wants. A privilege that was afforded to Jonathan Leko, a 17 year old similar style of player from West Brom academy who is afforded the coaching, effort and given ample game time as soon as it looked like West Brom would be secure in the topflight. Pulis simply has no incentive to coach Gnabry, but he has to coach Leko.

Nihilstjnr:
No manager wants to lose - if you are better than what they have, they will play you. Boga is not better than Dembele.
It's similar to the Palace situation - Palace wereally so desperate for a striker they went to Africa to sign Adebayor that hadnt played a competitive game in over a year. Meanwhile Bamford was there pretending to be an EPL player. Forget story bros.
Bad loan is only an excuse if you're not actually good.

Boga is not better than Dembele, rightly so. But Dembele himself is good enough to take 1st team shirt at Chelsea.

My point being that the fact a player did not get games on loan is not evidence of a player's worth. In Boga's case, this was a bad loan because he was put in a no-win situation against Rennes best player and biggest asset.

Even if Boga and Dembele were equals on the pitch, there is ZERO CHANCE of Rennes giving Dembele's game-time to Boga, as their plan is to sell Dembele at season end for good money. Why would they lose millions in the name of "fair competition" while helping Chelsea develop their player?

30 days in Atlanta

Spy360:
Oga
When a club takes a player on loan, it is not because they want to develop him, it is because they need him.

When a club sends a player out on loan, it is because they feel he is good enough but needs playing time.

Kingsley Conan was on loan at Bayern from Juventus. HE KNOCKED HIS PARENT CLUB OUT OF THE UCL. That is how to make a statement.

Stop yarning nonsense. Clubs also take players on loan to fill their squads.

Kingsley Coman is on a 2 year loan costing Bayern 7m a year plus 20m purchase agreement.

That is a finance lease, which confers the risks and rewards of ownership on Bayern. . . just like your phucking car note!

Serge Gnabry and Jenkinson from your useless club are two niggas really on loan, not Kingsley Coman.

If we want to play 4-4-2, please buy Carlos Tevez and collect that £50m for Costa.

He is a perfect 4-4-2 striker and Boca can't afford him/don't want him no more. They are virtually giving him away for free.

Nihilist:
It is not Pochettino's 'confidence to play him' that made Alli displace Bentaleb from midfield and later push Eriksen out of the number 10 position.

Bentaleb was injured mate for almost all of last season. By the time he returned the team was set and fighting for title. Bentalebs main competition is Dembele. It was Chadli that suffered at Allis hand because Eriksen was pushed wide to his position while Alli took the AM position.

Infact, I like that guy Bentaleb. I for like make Chelsea sign am.


@ Nateevs,

Most of your points are agreeable. The fact is a manager has no incentive to play a player on loan that the club does not make any money from. That is why Christensen and Musonda had to have 2 years and 18 months loan respectively, because no manager is interested in developing another club's player. That is why Ake's feat last season was so outstanding.

I was also thinking about that boy Jeremie Boga's loan to Rennes last season. Boga is a decent player, a right-footed right-winger. But what chance did he stand loaning him to Rennes to compete for the same right wing position against Ousmane Dembele, one of the hottest youngsters in Europe in the same position who Rennes were trying to develop and sell on for megabucks?

bigkesh:
Signing Mahrez isn't bad, but signing him on a limited budget is sick

If we gonna sign Mahrez and still sign the needed players,,no P
But if we are spending the money meant for a CB, Lb and DM on another winger, then I have a problem with that

Kokomaye = True Talk!

raumdeuter:
Mahrez another winger? You Wan make ibime vex

I take Mahrez and sell all our other wingers.

Didier Drogba the legend scores hattrick for Montreal Impact.

8 goals in 12 games for them.

Lampard also has something ridiculous like 7 goals in his last 8 games.

These are the kind of legends we had before Emenalo brought his ninnies and ninny mentality to Chelsea.

You want to develop South East to an international standard by saving less than $1bln in 10 years?

mukina2:
Ok Guys the new FPL season > http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

The main league is open to everyone .the code is 139890-46011

We have screen shots from last season . . .. for FA cup, Carling Cup and Conference .. they will be given out by standings only.

Please let us know your team names from last year .. no 419 here

For those who removed their team, you will not be given FA cup codes .
The h2h code, is limited to 20 per each league. FPL stops the number of entrees for private head to head leagues to 20 .
so we will have FA cup 1
FA cup 2 etc

If i didnt give you the code and find your team dia, i will 'comot' am

codes are available on request..

Last Season > https://www.nairaland.com/2439739/nairaland-fantasy-premier-league-2015

Ello bae. Please send me the FA Cup code.

The champ is here!!!

Ipukulubiye FC

Griffon:
Conte isn't satisfied with the squad at his disposal and really wants more signing? Hehe

So what have Emenalo led board being doing all these years? Signing "we dem fancy flicksters". I dont get the message but that is what i think it is.

Well I said he would need 5 or 6 this season and can only get 3 or 4.

That's where smart use of the likes of Ake comes in.

Surely a LB, CB and DM is part of the unfulfilled need.

Already he has found Ola Aina (a youth rightback) to be trusted more at left back than Osaniwa Baba Rahman, yet peeps cannot see the utter stupidity of sending our best leftback out on loan.

RLC actually has similar attributes to Ibrahimovic. Same body, same strength, same ball protection, same tight control in crowded spaces. . . and he can shoot decently.

But I ain't putting my hat on that lazy nigga though. I can't vouch for what lazy ballers might make of their career.

Being an accounting graduate and having a professional chartership (ICAN, ACCA, CIMA etc) are two different things.

His degree cannot allow practice accounting without the latter.

As such, it is not worth much on it's own, anymore than an average MASSCOM graduate.

Anyway, blessings to him. It shall be well.

Being an accounting graduate and having a professional chartership (ICAN, ACCA, CIMA etc) are two different things.

His degree cannot allow him practice accounting without the latter.

As such, it is not worth much on it's own, anymore than an average MASSCOM graduate.

Anyway, blessings to him. It shall be well.

Nihilist:
Christ!

Una dey try for here. See injuries. Ibime do you even have synovial fluid in that knee? See as the joints dey float

Hmm. I no sabi wetin be synovial fluid. The ligaments are very strong sha, na just my meniscus (shock absorber) cartilage done erode. The surgeon transplanted some cartilage from another part of the knee and also put in some biosynthetic cartilage but none of it has worked so far after 14 months and 2 operations. Na to pray make Baba God pick my call remain.

nateevs:
You are right. This what I did to myself two years ago. Still haven't recovered fully. Although you can say I am not seeing the doctor Luke Shaw is seeing.

You see your life? No be by force to play football at your age, you no gree hear. See what 12 years of playing football without cartilage has done to my knee. I can't even jog anymore, talkless of run.

According to Chelsea fans, Moses should win pre-season Ballon D'or. LMAO.

Which time be our match today and who is watching?

Chelseafan1:
You mean Luke shaw's was worse.

If the break is clean, it is easier to fix. That is a very clean break for Ba.

Chelseafan1:
This is scary.

That's a clean break on that x-ray. He'll be back quicker than Luke Shaw

It is not certain if Costa is staying or leaving. Selling clubs will usually hike up a price by claiming a player is going nowhere

JayKayMaybachz:
Hellooo fam

Me and my ghuys were having a serious debate about who was better between Hazard and Sanchez

I chose Sanchez though


So fam, if an opportunity came up and we was ask to choose who to sign, who will you guys prefer or want!!?

CC; Raumdeuter, afrodoc2, Ibime, dopeJemi, Elampiro, SailorXY, SIRcumalot, Nihilist, Pataki, Debroslink, Chrisley, Et all

Sanchez no doubt

@ OP,

Please do your research and stop spreading misinformation.

These people just arrived at the camp and are being nursed back to health. . . .as you can see from the drips they are hooked up to. The camp that can afford drips can also afford food.

I also thought these kids were being starved by corrupt officials diverting rice, but an associate who went to the camps to investigate said that they are arriving malnourished so a photo does not tell the full story.

nateevs:
Any one seen Demba Ba's horrific injury?

Warning: If broken legs dey do you worry, abeg no check am.

Gotdayum my nigga. Thank God he locked in that final big contract in China before this happened.

nateevs:
Any one seen Demba Ba's horrific injury?

Warning: If broken legs dey do you worry, abeg no check am.

Why you no post am here make we see

anonym0us:
I'm from a Christian home but since my childhood I find it hard to be in any religion..i was always forced to go to church.sometimes my mum will invite the pastor and prayer warriors to conduct a deliverance section on me but still I'm always skeptical about religion..now I'm old enough to decide what I need and the kind of spiritual or non spiritual life I want to live but my parents always treat me like an outcast whenever I'm around . They even threatened to disown me if I don't get baptized...

plus other things I wouldn't like to mention
please how do atheist in the house cope with this kind of situation

Congratulations. You had a bullshït detector from young age that some of us didn't develop till we were grown.

Nihilist:
Same website...same page...different perspective.

I think that what you guys have is confirmation bias. You insist that a player is bad, then point at any little mistake he makes as proof that he is bad, even if it could have happened to anybody

Well how about we go to the actual match report on that website?

I don't need no confirmation bias to know Baba Rahman is utter crap and has low self esteem. There was no match he played last season that I did not feel sorry for him. Anyone who actually played football or understands the game would know that he stunk every single match.

They had to even teach Kenedy left-back as an emergency because Baba was so shocking. I mean Osaniwa or Taye Taiwo are better players kind of shocking.

olabode89:
Errrm...... Eric Dier was acquired from Sporting CP, he didn't move up from the Academy at Spurs. He spent his formative years in Portugal with Sporting...

It is clear to the blind that Chelsea's youth development policies are not in line with those of the senior team. For years Chelsea had the best U-21 squad and they couldn't blood any of this youngsters and turn them into a squad player that gets quality time in the senior team. The idea of buying promising players and running a loan program without a road map on how to get them into the senior team won't cut it for the team in the long run.

I read somewhere that German Messi a.k.a Marko Marin is still a Chelsea player. The likes of Atsu, Loftus-Cheeks and Ake are wasting their time with Chelsea.

Never said Dier moved up from academy. He came into Spurs like the likes of Pasalic and co came into Chelsea.

Chelsea is waiting until our players have a successful loan to Barca before creating space for them in the team.

Even people who have been successful in the likes of Bremen, Gladbach etc are not getting space in the squad.

Yet deadwood like Mikel and Rahman are collecting wasted minutes that could be given to young talent.

airmark:
Conte has cuadrado in his plans at chelsea. Ibime may not like this.

Man proposes and God disposes. If I was a betting man, I would tell Conte to forget the Cuadrado he remembered in Italy.

The Cuadrado I saw at Chelsea that looked too intimidated to even trap a ball and will need severe personality transplant to succeed second time around.

Same goes for Baba Rahman. That guy looks like one JJC who just arrived in Europe and looks overawed like he has no self esteem.