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FPL Chief Regulator: Any team that joins the Premier League format will be kicked out of the Fantasy League

In reaction to the growing popularity of the NL Premier League format, a clearly envious Ibime Tamuno threatened fire and brimstone yesterday for any team wanting to join the breakaway league. Tamuno maintained that having two leagues in the same season is unviable because of the build up of fixtures that would entail. According to Tamuno "with the African Nations Cup and World Cup coming up, any additional fixtures would stretch players to breaking point. Besides the Fantasy League, Fantasy Cup and European fixtures, we cannot afford to add any further games to our schedule."

Tamuno has issued a cease and desist order to the leader of the rebels Ini Mystikal, and also sent out restrainments to Reeama Reeama, Jefferson Junior and Bandely. It is believed that the aforementioned are seeking to take the case to the European Court of Arbitration for Sport.



More to follow. . . . .

Afam:
I am sorry I am not here to defend every single action of Abacha so cannot answer your questions.

I was specific about things he did right and rather than question them you come up with questions about things you believe he did wrong that I never even discussed.

Maybe you are due to end up in a casket, that is your problem not mine. Stick to the issues if you can.

Its a shame that you have chosen to adopt a caustic tone to what was a harmless question.

If I remember correctly, you said on the first page that you agree with Arthur Eze that Abacha was a good leader.

Therefore any and every question on Abacha's performance is permissible.

Abacha is known to most Nigerians as one the worst leaders Nigeria ever had. Full stop.

Mukina

ritchboy:
Let me give u an assignment. . . u are going to need a gun, a plastic bag, tape, a knife and access to the roof of a skyscraper(or the highest mountain in your village).

Thank God for internet. . . . which other way would nonentities get the chance to communicate across the social ladder?. . . . . go and find ya level boy. . . . . prey-mantis no be grasshopper. . . .

dyabman:
@Ibime

we started with 4-3-1-2 . . . is this diamond also?

4-3-1-2 gini. . . . is this another way to disguise a diamond?. . . .


                 Drogba          Kalou


                       Lampard

         Malouda                  Cole

                        Ballack


Looks like a diamond and smells like a diamond.

BlueDiva:
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237981/Nicolas-Anelka-adds-Chelsea-problems-striker-sidelined-just-Didier-Drogba-heads-Africa-Cup-Nations.html#ixzz0aWyOR7Pn


Those of you banking on these babies, Borini, Sturridge and Di Santo
Here is their chance, we will know if they'll cost us the league or not.

I dont think Di Santo is coming back. They're talking about extending his loan to end of season.


Dyabman,

Of course we played diamond against WH.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg5173378#msg5173378 date=1261581412]It does not even matter if the run of games under Avram was much easier than what Carlo will play?
Ibime, where is your soccer-nous?
The first 10 games, the last 10 games, the first 25 games are just statistics. . . . .U can only compare if the [b]same set of fixtures [/b]were played.[/quote]Chelseas run from now till the end of January is the easiest run we can hope to face. . . only Birmingham & Fulham are in the top half.


26 Sat 12:45 PREM A Birmingham City ESPN
28 Mon 15:00 PREM H Fulham CTV
January 2010 SCORE TV ATT
3 Sun 15:00 FACP H Watford
9 Sat 12:45 PREM A Hull City Sky
16 Sat 15:00 PREM H Sunderland
27 Wed 19:45 PREM H Birmingham City CTV
30 Sat 17:30 PREM A Burnley ESPN


I will be hoping for success, but if flops occur due to the deficiencies I have pointed out, I will be the first to say "I told you so".

Everybody STOP PRESS!!!. . . . lets come back to this conversation at the end of January.

If my theory that Carlotti's diamond is starting to exhibit it's inherent weakness is true, then I should have a lot more to say by the end of January.

I hope by then no one would tell me that the poor form is down to ANC!

At that point I will pull up Avram Grant's unbeaten run from mid-November to mid-February in 07/08! 

debosky:
Who says players must reach 32 before declining?    Sheva was way past his best by 30, ditto with Vieira. It is clear to see that Terry is past his peak - only a stubborn Chelski fan would argue otherwise so is Lamps. When two players in your spine are in decline, it will affect the performance of the team.

Terry is just as slow as he was around 2005/2006 when he had his back problem. What we have now is that he is not afforded the extra-protection of his fullbacks and is often exposed to one-on-one situations that expose his lack of pace. FFS, at one point in the game against West-Ham, both Terry and Carvalho were caught in the right back position, having come across to cover Ivanovic who had gone forward to attack, as is his remit in the diamond formation. Ashley Cole had to come across to centre-back to cover.

As for Lampard, see below:

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg5173159#msg5173159 date=1261579753]Can you compare today's Lampard to the dynamic Lampard of 2004-2007?[/quote]Lampard had his best season last year, copping his routine 20 goals plus his greatest ever assists return.

How did Lamps drop so fast in 6 months? Answer below:

Ibime:
Only Anelka, Drogba, Cole and Ivanovic have better form under Carlotti than under GH. Everyone else has dropped except Essien who has maintained. This is because the diamond formation gives the attacking freedom to the fullbacks and strikers, and puts the tactical burden on the midfielders and centre-backs.

debosky:
Chelski's players have aged as well.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg5173005#msg5173005 date=1261578643]This Ibime is too stubborn. . . . . .What about the age factor?[/quote]Thats why Guus Hiddink is so relevant to this conversation.

Last year when Scolari's diamond was in the midst of its capitulation, Nateevs used to blame the age of the players. The players are too old. . . . bla bla bla bla

Hiddink came, and the players suddenly looked young enough to compete. All that happened was that GH changed back to the formation these players were bought for - 4-3-3!

From Hiddink till now is only 6 months. Abi, are they ageing exponentially?  

Who is too old in Chelseas team?

Lampard at 31 is at the peak age for a midfielder (27-32). Essien, Obi, Malouda etc are all under 30.

Our whole defence is under 30, except Carvalho who is just 30 or 31.

Drogba is the only one slightly above the peak age for a striker (25-30) at 31.

Deco is above 30, but he's a rotation player.

Apart from Deco and Ballack, who exactly is too old in Chelsea's team?  

dayokanu:
He was supposed to perform with players who are declining in form. Can you compare the form of Cech, Terry, Carvalho, Lampard and Ballack to what they were few seasons ago?

Can you compare the form of the above mentioned to their form under GH? Question

Only Anelka, Drogba, Cole and Ivanovic have better form under Carlotti than under GH. Everyone else has dropped except Essien who has maintained. This is because the diamond formation gives the attacking freedom to the fullbacks and strikers, and puts the tactical burden on the midfielders and centre-backs.

debosky:
Let's look at the facts - Chelski is 4 points better than where they were at this same stage last season with a much higher goal difference. Utd on the other hand are three points worse off. In essence, even if this were last season, Carlo would still be above Utd right now.

Carlo has won more games than at this same stage last season, despite losing more games.

This would hold water if you were not comparing Carlotti's regime to the disastrous diamond-formation regime of Scolari. 

At this stage last season, Man Utd already had their early season blip when Ronaldo was injured. Chelsea is ahead of where we were last season because Scolari's diamond was already 4 or 5 games into its capitulation. Carlotti's diamond is now starting to show the same signs of capitulation as Scolaris.

For clarity, it would be better to compare Carlotti's regime with a 4-3-3 regime over the same no of games. Bear in mind that these statistics were produced before the draw with West-Ham:

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debosky:
You miss the point - if he could do that repeatedly with such a depleted side, he'll do better with a stronger team like Chelski.

With the same set of players minus Kaka, Leonardo has adopted a 4-3-3 formation and they are top of the form chart in Italy, lying second in the league. Ever since Leonardo switched formation from their decrepit diamond about 10 games into the season, they have been the form team in Italy.  Contrast with Carlotti's near-failure to qualify them for the CL last season.


Contrast with Juventus. 2nd in the league last season, they have now switched to a diamond formation, employing Nateevs favourite playmaker (Diego) as their trequartista. End result - Ciro Ferrara on the brink of the sack!!! 

debosky:
All those players bar Kaka were at/past their peak by 2006. Carlo continued drawing out quality performances from them for seasons afterwards which shows just how good the man is.

Carlotti was also their manager between 2001-2006 yielding a paltry league title in that 5 year period with such great players.

debosky:
He did well, but according to you the battle was already lost so there wasn't anything at stake as it were.

This contradicts your earlier statement that Scolari hadnt lost the league.

debosky:
In the same light, the diamond formation has taken Chelski to the top of the league, 4 points ahead of the nearest rivals. That goes to show that the formation is NOT the issue, if not Carlo should've been sacked at this point as well. .

Scolari also started like a house on fire, and ran into the same problems we are seeing now. BTW, Man Utd have lost 5 games already and we are only halfway. Compare that to the 4 they lost last season. Where would Carlotti be on the table if Man Utd was the same as last season, without defensive crisis and with Ronaldo? 

This is why I've told FBS that heaven will not forgive Carlotti if he loses the league to this Man Utd team. We've never had it so good.

debosky:
But they kept qualifying for the CL in each season - that tells you that the coach had something about him, if not the resources to get him over that last hurdle of league dominance,

Merely qualifying for the CL may be a desirable outcome for Gaynners, but it is not acceptable for Chelsea! 

debosky:
Looking at the quality of the side he won those cups with, they pale in comparison to Juve's or Inter's.

Disagree!!!

Seedorf was one of the best trequartistas in his time.

Pirlo, Gattusso and Ambrosini are Italy WC winners and lynchpins.

Errr'one knows about Kaka.

Maldini, Nesta - best defenders in Italy.

Sheva was arguably the best striker in the world, and Inzaghi the most prolific poacher.

Dida at one point was a great goalie.

Not to mention other talents.

The side was brimming with quality. I would never put Juve or Inter players above AC players.

@ Afam,


How about inflation during Abacha's period?

Pls, dont say that Abacha was a good president to any son of a civil servant. You might end up in a casket.

How many months did civil servants go unpaid during Abacha period?

debosky:
He didn't - if he was allowed to stay till the end, that's the only point we'd be able to say he lost the league.

Thats being unnecessarily pedantic. GH had the[i] highest win percentage of any Chelsea manager in history[/i], and he still wasnt able to claw back the deficit that Scolari left. Scolari lost the league! Anyone saying otherwise is practising an exercise in pedantry.

debosky:
That was not the ONLY reason you won the leagues in those years - you had players in their prime, a disciplined and highly organized defence among others.

Even with players "out of their prime", the 4-3-3 has continued to show uptill 2009 that it is an effective formation for Chelsea. This is evidenced by GH and AG, whose statistics show that they performed to almost or exactly the same level as the much vaunted 2004-2006 squad.

debosky:
You don't get to 3 UCL finals without doing something VERY well, and this is inevitably going to affect league performance as well.

You must be speaking paradoxically, cos Milans cup form was hardly ever reflected in their league form.

nateevs:
Well we can say the league is not lost yet. . It's only a matter of time before we know if the diamond lost the league again.

Yet is the operative word in your sentence.

Whilst it may yet produce, history is not on its side.

edoyad:
She's doing a good job abeg considering the fact that she's expecting.

Expecting what? Who is responsible for this?


I think this process had been muddied. Too much sand in the garri. I hereby request that my name be withdrawn from the ballot.

^^^^HOTTTTTT!!!


This punk get swept/ by cross-winds from my jumbo jet/
Make his chin touch his chest/. . . when my punch hunch his neck!/

His chick cun.t get stretched/ and left with with a fungus cleft/
Actually, her mammary. . .  is just a lumpous br.east/

This pig’ll get roast/ till his skin is a toast/
My fans are so underground, I gotta rig to get votes/

What I spit would corrode/ any skill he promotes/
He’s harbouring styles. . . till I make him give up the ghost/

Let us not forget that Chief Arthur Eze is also the mentor to the Ubah's. The fruit never falls far from the tree.

Ritchboy, go and jump in Calabar river. I explicitly stated that I was talking about the league. Next time, look before you leap.


@ all others,

Whilst we cannot confidently extrapolate that GH would have won the league, we can confidently extrapolate that GH did not lose the league.

Hence, Scolari lost the league.

So do we all agree that we have never lost the league playing a 4-3-3 formation?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg5168757#msg5168757 date=1261519601]I agree 100% you have never lost the league playing your 4-3-3 formation[/quote]So whats all the extra argument about? 


Now, if the diamond and 4-3-3 are mutually exclusive, then we can agree that if 4-3-3 never lost the league, then the diamond formation always lost the league. The only possible exemption being Mourinho's flat 4-4-2 at the beginnning of 07/08.


Finally,

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg5168757#msg5168757 date=1261519601]BUT Ancellotti won 2 European cups playing the diamond formation.[/quote]Ancelotti also won 1 league in 9 years (with Juve and Milan) playing the diamond formation.

Most would agree that the league is the most effective judge of a formation, as opposed to cups, which are subject to the vagaries of luck.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg5168397#msg5168397 date=1261516403]What about the age factor? What about the maturity of SAF's fledglings that coincided with the period of Chelsea's diamond formation?
Surely, the likes of Terry, Carvalho, Cech, Lampard and Drogba have aged considerably and nowhere near the pristine condition they were between 2004 and 2006.[/quote]Of course we have to factor in age. In an attempt to qualify this statement I have shown that Guus Hiddinks ave points per game would have guaranteed the league (based on the statistics) knowing that 2004-2006 has less relevance than 2009.

My statement is not ambiguous:

"Therefore I posit that we have NEVER lost the league playing our favourite 4-3-3, and we have ALWAYS lost the league playing with a diamond midfield."


Whilst we cannot categorically say that GH would have won the league (because who knows how Man Utd would have reacted to GH copping points), we can categorically say that GH never lost the league. Scolari's diamond lost the league.

Again I say: We have NEVER lost the league playing our favourite 4-3-3.

Disprove!

ritchboy:
Can u actually quote the posts that suggest "we" are talking about the league alone? your imminent failure to do so is evidence u are a big fat smelly liar and should be put in a plastic bag labelled "Ibime's Delusion" in Kirikiri
how do u expect me to understand "100%" success/failure means winning the league or not winning the league?

The following should teach you never to get jump into arguments without knowing the why's and wherefores and the constraints that bind the argument.

Ibime:
As a rejoinder to Nateevs and Jalethers earlier discussion, I would like to contribute the following points:

(a.) Blaming players for the formation not working is counterproductive. The 4-3-3 formation covers players individual deficiencies allowing the team to shine. These players have ALWAYS been successful with 4-3-3. The players are not bad, the management is!!!


I shall expatiate:


JM: 2004/2005: 4-3-3 formation: Successful!

JM: 2005/2006:  4-3-3 formation: Successful!

JM: 2006/2007: Diamond formation: Failure! Lot of people forget JM played diamond formation in 07 to accomodate Shevchenko

Avram Grant: 2007/2008: 4-3-3 formation: Successful!

Phil Scolari: 2008: Diamond formation: Failure!

Guus Hiddink: 2009: 4-3-3 formation: Successful!

Carlotti: 2009/2010: Diamond formation: Trending toward failure (certainly on no of games won)



Based on average points per game, Avram Grant and Guus Hiddink would have won the league if given the full season. Therefore I posit that we have NEVER lost the league playing our favourite 4-3-3, and we have ALWAYS lost the league playing with a diamond midfield.

ritchboy:
How does AG's/GH's average points per game tell us they would have won the league if they were in charge from the start? Incase your too busy being an slowpoke to understand, FOOTBALL IS NOT MATHEMATICS.
You, my friend, have the intellectual capacity of an incapacitated parasite dwelling within an intoxicated rodent's severed knee ligaments

You lack the linguistic flourishes to duel with me boy. You're vocab is so limited, your best riposte to my verbal volleys was to talk about me having "the intellectual capacity of an incapacitated parasite dwelling within an intoxicated rodent's severed knee ligaments."

Ask yourself this pertinent question:

How is the intellectual capacity of a parasite characterised by the fact that:

(a.) he is incapacitated
(b.) he lives inside a rodents knee ligaments

Whilst describing the parasites living condition, you lack the linguistic ability to describe how that parasite relates to my honourable self, or how the parasites living condition relates to its intellectual capacity. 

Cristalz:
Cristalz officially apologizes for killing the fun in this for y'all.

I've cleared the names, cleared the votes (I'm really sorry, y'all that already voted).

So, please pick your nominees, pick your winner. Have fun.
Muki (I'm sorry, dearie. I gotta do this) will come edit the poll.

Got to go attend to some business now. Toodles.

FFS. . . . we waz only pulling ya legs. . . . get those other nuccas off the ballott!!!

nateevs:
@Ibime. .

We have played 18 games this season already and I am yet to see us concede defeat or drop points from the "deficiencies" of the diamond.

The games we lost
Villa - Set-piece 2 goals. .
ManCity - set-piece 2 goals.

The games we drew,
Everton - set-piece. 3 goals.
Westham 1 goal penalty.

Where's the deficiency? . . . In fact, one can argue that playing the 4-3-3, we would have lost and drawn the same number of matches if we fail to defend set-pieces well.

Aw did we concede the penalty against West-Ham? Was it not from a counterattack that left us overexposed?

Rewind tape to the set-pieces conceded against Portsmouth and Man City. Were they not won from counterattacks?

Prior to this we had been playing well, but rival managers av wised up.

Aw do you square-up the fact that we were camped on the edge of the West-Ham and Portsmouth box for 90 minutes with no pen.etration. We simply had no space to score. Did it not remind you of Scolari?

Dont worry. . . . more to come. . . . Fergie exposed all the deficiencies of the diamond, and other managers know exactly aw to play against it. . . . you will see korokoro with your own eyes, Chelsea camped in the opponents box wiv no space to score, then the opponents picking Chelsea off on the counterattack. . . .especially wiv Essien now injured and Mikel too slow to break off counterattacks. . .

ritchboy:
Ibime
i thought i had seen the height of stupidity but u just executed a gravity defying back-flip over it with consummate ease
this chimpanzee faced chipmunk actually thinks he's "proven" chelsea have a "100%" success/failure rate with the 4-3-3 & diamond since 2004. . . my finger-nails are laughing at you.
First of all, since 2004, personnel has changed. Robben, Duff & SWP have left. Chelsea are top of the league with the diamond this season. . . so far so good. You say JM played the diamond in 06/07. . . Chelsea won two trophies that season. How that translates to "100% failure" only a seasoned crap slurper like Ibime can explain.
Then u add more gloss to your idio-cy by saying GH w/ 4-3-3 would have more points than CA w/ diamond. Are u a psychic or a psycho? My cultured guess is the latter.

One should not ordinarily try to dignify this gobbledygook with a response.

The limpidity of my argument has been obvious from day dot. We cannot draw comparison on variables such as cup form. Any slowpoke following the thread of this argument knows we are talking about the league here, so trying to categorise 06/07 as a success is outside the constraints of this discussion.

I do not need to explain to this simpleton that the 100% record alludes to a binary verdict on "winning the league" or "not winning the league". The 4-3-3 formation has never lost the league 100% of the time. In contrast, the diamond formation has failed to win the league 100% of the time (taken over JM and Scolari). Anyone who needs further explanation should consult his textbooks. Must I temper my expressions just to clarify my arguments to simpletons?

If we agree that both Avram Grant and GH played enough games to be judged, it is categorically proven that based on their average points per game, they would have won the league. We also deduce that GH would have more points than CA at this point using the same criteria of points per game.

A rational deduction, one would suppose.

Trying to justify rational thought to this fugazi is like trying to seek reason with an elephant in musth.

As I expressed with great perspicuity of language earlier, if Ritchboy's level of wealth is commensurate with his level of intelligence, then his name must be a misnomer.

nateevs:
Jose's last days were filled with a serious dip in form . . drawing and losing matches here and there and playing awfully as well. . and what's funny these players were playing a 4-3-3 then. . So what happened then?

Dont tell me your cerebro-cortex is suffering from an ephemeral aneurism.

What was Jose's formation in his last few games. . . . infact, what was Jose's formation in the whole of 06/07?

STOP PRESS!!!


Lets see what the winter holds for Carlotti's diamond. . .

Anyone who cant see that the problem is structural rather than personell needs to visit specsavers. . . .

Do I need to tell you that no amount of skill can break through 10 men packed on the edge of the box?. . . . if you like, go and buy VDV, Diego or any other playmaker you wish. . . if the other team sit 10 men in their box, you will find it difficult to break through. . . . and do I need to stress that having 3 on 3 counterattacks against us is a structural deficiency?. . . . pray tell, in which formation do these deficiencies surface?

nateevs:
@Ibime

You still do not get my argument. It is not an argument of which formation is better but that we have a problem. How are other teams able to switch between formations and we can't?

I won't back down on my claim that we don't need to move away from the diamond to be successful. We just have to do the right thing to make it work. . . even if it means we don't win anything this year. We continue to pay hundreds of thousands of pounds to at best average midfielders who happen to be one dimensional as well. . .

This is a rant at the Gods. . . . who is the subject of your ire?. . . Mourinho for not buying the right players. . . or Carlotti for not doing the best with the players he inherited?

The subject of our conversation is Carlotti. . . . does he maximise player utility or not?

Are you a PH girl yourself?

ritchboy:
Ibime
you are 89 years old and the chances of your IQ ever transcending -12 are as thin as an orphan on a diet in Darfur.
Chelsea winning 101 games out of 100 using the 4-3-3 under a different manager is as irrelevant as your presence on earth.
No matter what formation a team plays, they will have bad spells. That is as certain as the sun rising from the east. Its normal for fans to find something to blame. Well, u can blame Joe Cole, Kalou & Ballack for being useless. . . Blaming the formation, the weather, oil prices etc is as daft as your next post.

Your cranial capacity is similar to that of an aardvark.

In response to my statement that 4-3-3 would stand this set of players in better stead, you submitted that a 4-3-3 with Anelka and Malouda on the wings is useless.

Holding all constraints equal, I have shown that this same set of players achieved feats incommensurate with their level of ability when played in a 4-3-3 formation just a few months ago. Your only riposte is to allude to an unquantifiable dogma about players having bad spells. I dare say that if Carlotti was supplanted by Hiddink today, and the formation reversed to 4-3-3, that bad spell would disappear as quickly as a waft of smoke overcome by wind turbulence.

I have provided empirical evidence of Chelsea's 100% record with the 4-3-3 formation from 2004 till date, and also proved the 100% failure rate of the diamond formation, and all you can do is wheel out unscientific rhetoric.

If your wealth is commensurate with your level of intelligence, then I dare say that the name Ritchboy must be a misnomer.

Cristalz:
@Bluediva
Dearie, CR7 is out there in the real world, not Nairaland.
You really can't make a comparison.
This section of ours is a lot wider than a pitch. . .it's a public forum with rules and all.

Thanks for your suggestion, but if I'm to do this over again, I won't change a thing.
Giving y'all a long list is something I deliberately did not do because I want whoever actually deserves it to win.
I don't want a scenario where a favorite with the people gets the award 'cos he/she is a favorite, and not 'cos he/she deserves it.
That would be purely unfair, and I'm not in support of that.

Whoever deserves it should get it, not by popular demand, but by merit.
So I picked those that honestly merit it. . .and the rest is up to y'all to pick the best choice.

In other words, you are saying you know more than the general populace.

It is unfortunate that you therefore chose DK, a contestant whose mere candidacy ensures that the herd mentality which you are trying to regulate against will in the end triumph. A candidate whose appeal is sentimental rather than conscientious.


This leads us to another debate:


Question:

Does an informed autocratic decision lead to an outcome preferrable to the aggregate of human knowledge reflected in a democratic process?

Answer:

Only if the informed autocrat is more informed than the average denizen participating in the process.


STOP PRESS!!!

Am telling you'se lot. . . . weather and blustery wind affects a passing side. . . its not scientific. . . its common sense. . . .

ritchboy:
Ibime
"rubbish" is too soft a word to describe what u typed. If u reckon a 4-3-3 with 'common' Malouda and Anelka wide is better than a diamond(which has worked very well so far), u belong in a form-fitting cage in a Malawian zoo.

It is not surprising that someone of your ilk should entrench his stupidity in the face of facts. With Malouda and Anelka on the wings last season, we won 11 games and drew 1 under Guus Hiddink. The only game we lost under GH was away at Spurs, where we played. . . . you guessed it. . . . the diamond formation!!!

Can you compare 11 wins, 1 draw with what obtains presently?

Your medula oblangata must suffering the dehydrating effects of reverse osmosis.

chamotex:
A silly transfer cost me 4 points that knocked me out of the cup.

hehehehe. . . . no cup, no league. . . what a disaster for fans of Chamo Athletic. . .

Did anyone else from NL get knocked out of the cup?

eldee:
Even Ibime gives his best only when Streetwize decides to battle,

I think Streetwize gives his best only when Ibime decides to battle. . . . hehehehehe. . . .