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If the formation is not the problem FBS, then you must be betting your bottom dollar that we would not have more points playing 4-3-3 at this stage of the season with GH?

Speak to me at the end of January.

I believe we will drop more points in this cold weather if we persist with this diamond.

I managed to scrape through the first round of the cup by 36 points to 34. . . . phew. . . .

chamotex:
My aim is straight homes, I break domes and maim bones.
Take the F out of your mouth bi.tch, cos you have a 'Lames tone

In this HOLY land I spit 'pill grim' so pay HOMAGE or i'll hurt you
Like a flames-tone I'll shed light on darkness to burn you

Are you battling someone called Flames Tone?. . . . . . . . if I didnt know better, I would have . . . . someone do him the honour! 

FBS:
@Ibime, but we were scoring lots of goals (and kept clean sheets) even with the diamond formation, yes?
How do you explain that?

When winter comes, the diamond formation becomes extinct. You cannot be passing the ball back and forth in this cold weather, with the hard pitches we have in winter.

Perhaps thats why Arsenal form drops almost every winter? 

ritchboy:
now chelsea fans want 4-3-3. . . And who would play wide? Joe Cole? Malouda? Kalou? Anelka? Terry?
4-3-3 worked for chelsea b4 cos they had better wingers then(Duff, Robben, SWP) and Joe Cole was twice the player he is today. Face it, your current wingers are wack!
4-3-3 means Joe Cole & Malouda/Kalou STARTING games as wingers and Anelka/Drogba dropping to the bench. . . That spells DOOM with 54 O's

Were you typing this rubbish when Guus Hiddink was blowing everyone apart with common Malouda and Anelka on the wings?


@ Nateevs & FBS,

A manager is supposed to get the best out of whatever squad he has at its disposal. You say our players cant dribble, cant do this or cant do that. Well either buy players that can, or devise a system that best suits them. A manager must be pragmatic first, everything else is secondary.

What was Scolaris excuse? That our players couldnt dribble like Robinho? Well I tell you what, Id rather have our current set of players than Robinho.

Also Nateevs talking about lightweights like Giovinco. FFS, the nucca isnt built for the prem. Why should we take a Juventus reject? He's a tactical liability.

Almost every playmaker Nateevs has recommended for Chelsea over the years has flopped. This shows that the problem is not with the playmaker themselves but the idea that the playmaker is still relevant in modern football. The much-hyped Diego is a flop at Juventus, likewise VDV and every other playmaker Nateevs has recommended for Chelsea. We need to come off this playmaker/diamond formation idea and worry about getting skillful but versatile players.

Now, the good thing about the 4-3-3 is that it is a fluid system. It is 4 or 5 formations in one. It can adapt to any circumstance. It can be a 4-5-1 ala Greece in Euro 2004 in hard matches, or it can be a 4-3-3 ala Barcelona when you are playing little teams. If your wingers can tuck in, you can make extra midfielders, with your wing-backs providing the width. Or your wingers can play upfront making a 3 man strike-force. It can also be a 4-2-3-1 ala Liverpool, and you can play with a holding midfielder so deep, he becomes an auxilliary centre-back when your fullbacks are caught out of position. It all depends on the kind of opposition you face.

Not many teams have a 2-in-1 striker like Drogba, hence not many teams can play a 4-3-3. We do, so that should give us the tactical advantage of having more bodies in midfield.

ow11:
Iyimbere,

where you get this pic. . .see as my Ama just fine!

Abonnema always been top notch ama.

Someone deleted me post on this thread.

ManMustWac. abi na you?

bandely:
Ibime! My votes for you! 

Good boy. . . . I will make sure PHCN does not take light in your village this Christmas. . . . same goes for anyone voting for Obama Ibime. . . . I notice you used the word votes instead of vote. . . . I encourage that. . .

dyabman:
you are a fool. . .

I bet Schweinsteiger will wumble more if played in the Diamond formation.

Schweinsteiger DOES play in the diamond formation.


IMO, comparing Scwheinsteiger and JC is like comparing apples and oranges. They play different positions and have a different physique.

Peter Obi dey speak English o. . . . the rest of em better go and prep themselves properly.

The funny thing is that all these guys are Professors and Doctors, and they're all coming here to debate each other for the right to steal the people's money.

I hope questions will be asked about Ngige and Uba's record on corruption. They must debate on what everyone is thinking. All people wanna know is: "Who is going to steal the least money?"

Dr Kitaun:
Its ridiculous that Dayokanu that is my protegee is one who u even vaunt in saying that he is not abrasive, considering his vituperativeness, his vulgarities and his propensity to forment unwarranted trouble the threads over    

I agree. . . . based on the criteria given for hand-picking the candidates, I hereby posit that there is no way Dayokanu can pass a fit and proper persons test. . . . his name should be struck off the list of possible candidates for his general behaviour. . . . Ribadu, where art thou?

It is quite obvious that the UN need to be brought in to regulate these elections. . . . under proper conditions, Dayokanu would be barred, and Ibime will go into the lead based on no of votes cast.

Dr Dre, No Id, Just Blaze and Heatmakers are conspicuously missing from da list.

3.RUGGEDMAN
-Ruggedy baba is the chief culprit here.infact this list should be called ruggedy baba & company.at the beginning of the year,he had everything set up for him to blow up big time.he never capitalised on the modenine beef.any reasonable artiste would have used that to re-establish his/her buzz,ruggedy could have at least dropped a mixtape filled with modenine disses but he chose to end the year on a quiet note with no album,no mixtape and no major cameos.i never thought it was possible to turn a win/win situation into a loss.



GBAM!!!


The truth is that Mode9's fans are disciples. They'll always cop his records. Rugged fans are the fickle pop-type. They'll hop off his ddick if he isnt considered to be hot anymore.


Hope is not lost. Rugged can still drop a mega-diss to Mode9 at year-end to revive his situation.

You lots are having a bubble. OW11 should be repping on the list of nominees in this section.

As for Sagamite, he's a foreign import. I doubt he knows the current managers of 3SC and/or Kano Pillars are.

@ OP,

In the words of the poet Drake, your guy should be asking his fiance, "Is anything Im doing brand new?"

duduspace:
6. Never admit you were wrong. This is easy because you know you are never wrong.  In fact, a short-term memory dysfunction is rather good here.   Keep it simple.   Insult anyone who disagrees with you, since your approach is obviously right. If you were part of the “Song’s not fit to wear the shirt,” brigade after the game against Fulham, just let that memory go, unless you really want to stand up against the crowd and say that Song is still no good.  But be careful – go too far and you could look silly!

Will the real Debosky please stand up! 

duduspace:
8. Avoid statistics, especially such things that show in numbers that Denilson touches the ball more than other players, makes more passes than other players, has more successful intercepts than other players.  If anyone else quotes stats then say, “you can prove anything with statistics.”  Alternatively make some up – for example arguing that our attacking potential is clearly useless, when we are in fact joint top scorers in  the league.

Any Gaynner who disses Denilson is a slowpoke. Denilson is the king of possession football in the Premiership.

honeric01:
MEND think they are powerful? uhm, i pity the innocent people living around these creeks, by the time the military take over, we shall see how MEND go live 2 months.

Abonnema is not a town that FG can bomb indiscriminately. Infact, it will be almost impossible to distinguish between militants and citizens in such a progressive town as Abonnema. Many of the great and good of Rivers State are from Abonnema. They would not take kindly to any bombing of their town as occured in Odi and Gbaramatu. You can no more bomb Abonnema than you can bomb Bonny Island. The citizens of Abonnema are too powerful for that, and you will certainly hear from all their eminent sons, including Lulu Briggs, the Graham-Douglases etc.


Abonnema:
https://i47.tinypic.com/10mjxc7.jpg

This should have been the reaction to the Taliban instead of a full invasion in 2001.

As a rejoinder to Nateevs and Jalethers earlier discussion, I would like to contribute the following points:

(a.) Blaming players for the formation not working is counterproductive. The 4-3-3 formation covers players individual deficiencies allowing the team to shine. These players have ALWAYS been successful with 4-3-3. The players are not bad, the management is!!!


I shall expatiate:


JM: 2004/2005: 4-3-3 formation: Successful!

JM: 2005/2006:  4-3-3 formation: Successful!

JM: 2006/2007: Diamond formation: Failure! Lot of people forget JM played diamond formation in 07 to accomodate Shevchenko

Avram Grant: 2007/2008: 4-3-3 formation: Successful!

Phil Scolari: 2008: Diamond formation: Failure!

Guus Hiddink: 2009: 4-3-3 formation: Successful!

Carlotti: 2009/2010: Diamond formation: Trending toward failure (certainly on no of games won)



Based on average points per game, Avram Grant and Guus Hiddink would have won the league if given the full season. Therefore I posit that we have NEVER lost the league playing our favourite 4-3-3, and we have ALWAYS lost the league playing with a diamond midfield.



We used to say the same thing about the players having lost it last season. As soon as Guus Hiddink came, all those complaints were swept away.

The fundamental weaknesses of the diamond formation remain: Not enough space for strikers because the box is overcrowded. Also defence is too exposed to the counterattack.

The diamond formation does have its merits. It allows you to dominate possession and play pretty football. However I think you need excessive pace at the back to play the diamond and unfortunately, it leaves players like Mikel, Ballack and Terry severely exposed on the counterattack.

If I were Carlotti, I would be really careful. There may be a reason why GH turned down the Citeh job. I do not believe a Director of Football position is preferrable to a management position for GH.

Dayo,

I would not worry about hotsperm leaving a bun in Muki's oven.

Studies show that spermatozoa is only effective at about 30 degrees Centigrade.

Hence scrotal temperature is regulated by ballsack elasticity. Have you ever wondered why ya ballz droop down in hot weather? This is because your ballsack is trying to keep ya ballz away from your core body lest spermatozoa is damaged by heat transfer.

Hence I posit that hotsperm is no threat to your genetic lineage!!!

rasputinn:
However,just so we move on and to allow you present the award to the winner,I'd vote for Dayokanu(my decision is based more on humanitarian than anything else),he's been the loneliest sports-section nairalander in that lonely thread for that team from the wack bundewackza league.Let's give him some cheer @ christmas

This post is evidence that Dayokanu should be barred from the election. . . the joint election campaign committee representing Krayola and Ibime hereby table a motion for the withdrawal of Dayokanu from the ballot by the election committee. . . . recent polls show that just like Rasputtins vote, 98% of Dayokanu's votes are sympathy votes. . . . the other 2% came from his wife Mukina. . . . .FFS, I cannot campaign against a sympathy candidate. . . . that would be like a singer trying to win a grammy award when Jennifer Hudson is one of the rival nominees. . . .

nateevs:
@Ibime. .

You may be correct but there were several time last season he played with Malouda and Joe. . It was clearly a 4-3-3.
Having said that, I am going to stick by an argument I made last year. Our players!

We have a bunch of average players at best. . I will gladly want to see the backs of Kalou, Ballack, Malouda Belletti and call it harsh, Joe Cole.

We can play the diamond if we want to and play well and win games. Carllotti does not have a plan B agreed but why do they always fall apart at this time of the year? Lethargic is the best word you can find for some of the performances we put in this season.

We have to buy in January. I will call Carllotti a complete slowpoke if he does not buy in January. ManU will still drop points in the next half and if we don't capitalize, we don't deserve the PL.

As for Joe Cole, he is a player without a position. He lacks the pace to play on the wing, but he doesnt quite have the passing ability to play in the centre. I would take him over Deco anyday though. Mind you, VDV is available for less than £10m.

ManU drop 6 points in 8 days and we drop 4 . . It's crazy.

Scolari only played 4-3-3 in two games last season, after the pressure had been building on him. . . . Scolari = Ancelotti.

The only nucca who played 4-3-3 last season was Guus Hiddink.

Honestly, if Carlotti throws away the best chance of winning the league in over a decade, heaven will not forgive him. Whats more frustrating is that this current Man Utd team should never be let within a million miles of the trophy. If Van Persie was fit, I would go to the bookies tomorrow and put my money on Arsenal.

Carlotti needs a talking to. We are slowly sliding into Scolari territory with all the frustration that came with it. Im listening to 606 and Chelsea fans are already starting to say that Carlotti is Scolari pt II.

nateevs:
However I see the difference btw Carllotti and LFS. . LFS used wide men and he didn't use a diamond and he did not use two upfront. The similarity between them is that they both used fullbacks to attack and they don't have a plan B. .

Its exactly the same system. . . . Carlotti never used two wide men. . . . he played Anelka as the main striker with Joe Cole just behind him. . . . it was the same diamond formation.


This is Scolari's formation:



                                          Anelka

                                                          Joe Cole


                                          Deco

                Lampard                                   Ballack

                                         Essien
                                                                                           
                                                                                           
Cole                                                                                Bosingwa

FFS, I am withdrawing from the race. This is a miscarriage of justice. I demand to see the ballots and the names of everyone who voted for Dayokanu. This is PDP magic!!!

@ Nateevs,

Im just speaking to my Chelsea hombre on the phone. He wants to know "Why do we keep picking managers who only have a plan A?"

I hope you remember the furore over Scolari's lack of plan B last season. Anyone who sees any difference between Carlotti's diamond and Scolari's diamond needs to visit specsavers. The only difference is that Carlotti uses Drogba whilst Scolari refused to do so, otherwise the fundamental weaknesses remain.

An utterly poor performance from MEND FC this week.

Still I rise!

An utterly predictable performance. My prediction of 2-1 to Chelsea was more out of hope than expectation. I never once expected Chelsea to beat West Ham.

West Ham are a team who pack the midfield. Any team that packs the midfield will trouble Chelsea. Man Utd showed everyone the way to play against Carlotti. The diamond formation is so frail, and so easy to checkmate, its unbelievable. Just pack the midfield and have a lot of runners from midfield ready for the counter-attack.

Scolari found the same thing last year when teams sussed him out 3 months into the season.

Carlotti MUST change the formation, especially over this Christmas period with Essien injured.


Which brings me to Mikel. If we are gonna keep this diamond formation, he MUST be sold. With this formation, you need a fast DM to stop counterattacks. Mikel just escorts players breaking from midfield. There was one point @ 82 minutes when Scott Parker broke from midfield in a really threatening fashion. Mikel was just escorting him back. He was lucky Parker overran the ball otherwise West Ham were 3 against 2.

Also, Ballacks legs are gone. We need another right-sided midfielder. Jack Collison who played on the right-side for West Ham today would be a good acquisition for the right-side of our diamond.


Again, Carlotti must shape up, stop playing the same formation all the time, and change his formation according to the opposition. FFS, SAF changes formation all the time according to the opposition. Carlotti must pull his finger out of his arse!!!

An utterly predictable performance. My prediction of 2-1 to Chelsea was more out of hope than expectation. I never once expected Chelsea to beat West Ham.

West Ham are a team who pack the midfield. Any team that packs the midfield will trouble Chelsea. Man Utd showed everyone the way to play against Carlotti. The diamond formation is so frail, and so easy to checkmate, its unbelievable. Just pack the midfield and have a lot of runners from midfield ready for the counter-attack.

Scolari found the same thing last year when teams sussed him out 3 months into the season.

Carlotti MUST change the formation, especially over this Christmas period with Essien injured.


Which brings me to Mikel. If we are gonna keep this diamond formation, he MUST be sold. With this formation, you need a fast DM to stop counterattacks. Mikel just escorts players breaking from midfield. There was one point @ 82 minutes when Scott Parker broke from midfield in a really threatening fashion. Mikel was just escorting him back. He was lucky Parker overran the ball otherwise West Ham were 3 against 2.

Also, Ballacks legs are gone. We need another right-sided midfielder. Jack Collison who played on the right-side for West Ham today would be a good acquisition for the right-side of our diamond.


Again, Carlotti must shape up, stop playing the same formation all the time, and change his formation according to the opposition. FFS, SAF changes formation all the time according to the opposition. Carlotti must pull his finger out of his arse!!!

Ibime:
Watch out for West Hams packed midfield. Their midfield has the anti-dote to our diamond formation. I hope Carlotti would let go of his tactical rigidity and play the opponents, not the system.

Y'all take note of my statement at the inception of this thread. . . .

Chelseans, is there any difference between what we are seeing now and what we saw umpteen times during Scolari reign?

All I am seeing is congestion in West Ham's area with Chelsea trying to pass through the eye of the needle. Similarly, Chelsea's midfield is as open as the M20 motorway. There's so much space behind our fullbacks. We are so open to counterattack. . . . thats how West Ham got their penalty.

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More to follow. . . .