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Look at you guys. . . .

We are talking about pass frequency which is what the stats are based upon. . .

For example, Usain Bolt is a faster runner than Asafa Powell, but Asafa Powell has better stride frequency. . .

When it comes to pass frequency, not many in Prem can touch Denislon. . . . we are not talking about who is the better player or who is the better passer. . . . simply, who is more likely to take more touches in a game. . . Denilson will always take more touches than Carrick.

Carrick is a good passer but he is too immobile to compete with Denilson on pass frequency. . . . Denilson is one of those nippy movers who takes many touches just like Scholes and Fabregas. . . . the fact Arsenal play that tippy tappy style also helps, whilst Man Utd favour the counterattack. . . . come on, there are many things Denilson is not but passing is his strongpoint. . .

felifeli:
And can you honestly with hand to your heart say that all these pictures are from Lagos ?

If they are not from Lagos then where are they from. . . . are you one of the Nigerian middle classes who turns a blind eye to poverty?. . . . I have seen even worse in PH. . .

nateevs:
Roman did not lose half his wealth . . He lost between £700m and £1bn. . . works out to about 1/10th of his wealth. .

If you like stay there. . . .

If he lost only £1bn, I am sure he can dip his hand in his pocket to find £50m for Scolari from the £15bn he has left. . .


http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1076302/Roman-Abramovich-loses-12billion-Russian-share-plunge.html


[center]Roman Abramovich loses £12billion in Russian share plunge[/center]

Roman Abramovich has lost £12billion on the Russian stock exchange, it was revealed today.

The Chelsea FC owner has seen his fortune shrink as Russia's Micex Index has gone into freefall.

The decline in value of two of his companies on the Moscow-based index, steel maker Evraz and mining company Highland Gold, has left the 41-year-old tycoon £11.9billion worse off.

It comes just four days after details emerged of the £200million super-yacht Abramovich is having built - set to be the largest private yacht ever constructed.

The massive bill for the boat amounts to just a 60th of today's gargantuan losses for the Russian oligarch.

Abramovich's woes come on a disastrous financial day for London's Premiership football clubs, with the owners of Arsenal and West Ham also suffering from the effects of instability in the markets.

Arsenal's part-owner Alisher Usmanov has lost £7billion on the Micex index, which has declined 61 per cent since its peak in May.

West Ham's Icelandic owner Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson also said he may sell the club after losing £230million.

Abramovich's losses will set alarm bells ringing in the football world and the City.

It comes after Chelsea chairman, Bruce Buck, suggested this week that the club could sell players to survive.

tpia:
kindly show me where I've ever referred to Nigeria as the giant of Africa?

I didnt know you were a liar.

as per the rest of your post: its really no use responding to all that, since you've candidly stated you're a Niger Delta militant, in the past.

My friend go and sleep before I report you to 4Play.

Scholes has been injured. . . .


But how can tkb and Sauron compare Carrick and Anderson's passing ability with Alonso and Denilson?. . . . levels pass levels abeg. . . . . there are many things Denilson cannot do, but passing is his strongest point. . . . he is one of the best in the Prem at that. . . . as for Alonso, everyone should know he is a passmaster by now. . . .

Anderson simply does not exist in this category, although all round he is a great player, he only has one foot and that does not help the frequency of his passing. . .

Carrick can pass, but not with the frequency of Scholes, Fabregas, Alonso and Denilson. . . . the aforementioned are quick nippy passers of the ball whilst Carrick is more of a middle range passer and he is not nippy.

auwal87:
EXAMPLE of ISLAMIC States

All the following Countries are practicing Shariah (Islamic Law). Thousands of Westerners and Africans and Nigerians rush to these countries to earn a living, some of them even relocate to these countries because of the peaceful atmosphere shaded by the Light of Islam.

1. United Arab Emirates
2. Islamic State of Qatar
3. Sultanate of Oman
4. Kingdom of Bahrain
5. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
6. Islamic Republic of Iran
7. Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
8. Arab Republic of Egypt
9. Syrian Arab Republic
10. Kingdom of Morocco

Hehehehe. . . . . why not add Afghanistan to that list.

If you allow muslims to implement Sharia, they will start with a moderate version, then before you know it they will implement draconian laws whose only rightful place is in the medieval ages.

Give Sharia an inch an it will take a yard. Give it a yard and it will take a mile. Give it a mile and it will take over the whole city. Give it a city and it will take over the whole country.

Take your Sharia back to the middle ages abeg.

AngieFan:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/_44580801_10nigeria_afp.jpg

And they wonder why we Nigerians don't like our meat medium rare. When I go for dinner, they always ask if I want my beef medium rare, and I say I like it burnt please!

tocdee:
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N162481081211-1113.htm

Liverpool fans have known it for years but now it's official - Xabi Alonso is English football's pass master.
The midfielder became the first Premier League player to complete 1,000 successful passes during 2008-09 against Blackburn.

Opta stats show Alonso has hit 1,005 accurate passes this term, creating 26 goalscoring chances in the process.

Chelsea midfielder Jon Obi Mikel is second with 957 successful passes and 12 chances created.

Next comes Arsenal's Denilson (922 and 27), followed by Chelsea and England midfielder[b] Frank Lampard [/b] (901 and 48).

Passing is a much overlooked part of Lampard's game. 48 chances created from 922 passes says it all. Just because he makes hard passes look simple and doesn't overelaborate with his passes, some overlook his passing prowess.

Tpia is one of those Nigerians who like to engage in self delusion and walk around with an air of superiority still believing that Nigeria is the giant of Africa. . . . when countries like Ghana and Angola are enjoying 24 hr electricity and countries like Uganda and even Rwanda are enjoying peace and relative wealth, much less Botswana, Namibia and South Africa. . . . . . whilst Nigeria is sinking faster than all except Ivory Coast, Congo and Zimbabwe.

Yet Nigerians still sniff their noses at other Africans. Bush people!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=196587.msg3211384#msg3211384 date=1229012962]What Ibime and Somze should focus on is the WAGE BILL.[/quote]We can also focus on that as well. Mourinho always puts pressure on the board to give astronomical contracts to whoever wanted it. Whether Gallas, Terry or Lamps, Mourinho always pressured to give them whatever they want, even pressing the board after Gallas threatens an own goal.  Mourinho himself threatened to walk out just one-year into his contract and was only pacified by a new astronomical contract. What kind of example is that? What kind of manager tells his players that if Shevchenko is earning £120,000 a week, they should push for the same? (This is back when the greatest player in the World, Ronaldinho was barely earning £120,000 and £90,000 was already considered too obscene for Terry and Lamps to be earning) Mourinho promoted a culture of greed at Chelsea. What kind of manager allows the foxes to guard the hen house?

Contrast that with Ferguson who tells Wes Brown to phock off if he doesn't like the contract or tells Ronaldo he is absolutely not getting a new contract, or goes to war with Rio Ferdinand over a new contract. I can carry on.

Or Arsene Wenger who tells Kolo Toure he cannot join the second-tier earners at Arsenal or sells Ashley Cole over a contract row, or prices Adebayor down from £120,000 a week to £70,000 a week - this amongst several other instances.

These are managers who care about their clubs, not Mr "short term gain, long term pain."

To show how biased you are, you tag SWP as Failed to Blend. Hehehehe. . . . you are a funny guy.

You also fail to put any tags on the 2007/2008 signings. Are you absolving JM of any blame in their arrival? Are you suggesting that JM cannot shop in the markets that other managers like Wenger and such regularly shop at? Oh yeah, I forgot. . . . he says he only buys eggs at Waitrose because all the other eggs are rotten.

We can say JM signed Mikel but Chelsea had already signed Mikel before JM arrived, but loaned him out to Lyn for experience so scratch that from your list. Ezequiel Bala and Obasi Ogbuke were also with us and they even made our squad list for 03/04.

Ballack is NOT a JM signing, neither is Robben or Cech. Stop being a prick!

Let us remove the cheap players such as Ben Sahar and Scott Sinclair who are probably Arnesen signings.

Lassana Diarra was spotted by Arnesen if you want to get technical. Either way Chelsea did not see the fruits of his greatness.


Hits: Drogba, Cole, Essien, Cole, Carvalho

What do you notice: All established names that even my sisters can sign without blinking.


Misses: Ben Haim, Malouda, Belletti, Pizarro, Kalou, SWP, Del Hot, Tiago, Kezman, Ferreira, Jarosik


You may consider Tiago a great acquisition, but we sold him a year after we bought him for less than we bought him. (And he cost £10m, not £8m). Great acquisition indeed. He was a flop in a financial sense. Maybe you could say he did OK on the pitch, but in no way can he be considered a hit.

4 hits out of 16. That is a 25% success rate.


Now, you want to talk about money. . . . is it my business that SWP is overpriced because he's English?

Mourinho did not sign any HITS for less than £20 million!

For me, that doesn't make them Great Acquisitions as you put it, barely Value For Money.

If I spend £30m on David Villa now, would you call it a great signing or a value-for-money signing?

For £20+ million, we could also have signed players such as Ronaldinho, Ribery etc.

Like I said before, if not for JM's transfer incompetence, we could have a squad comparable to Barca of 2006 by now.

Why pay millions to buy a functional team? Benitez and such can produce a title winning functional team for a fraction of that cost as he showed at Valencia.

Short term gain. Long term pain. Every year Mourinho spent more and more money but his squad got weaker and weaker. He must be a miracle worker. Now we are left with a squad which is nowhere near worth the investment.

Even Tinkerman still has 4 of his players left in the first 11. How many of our current first 11 were signed by Mourinho? Only Drogs, Essien, Cole and Carvalho.

somze:
Total Cost of failed players - £39m for 4 players, SWP being English inflated his price to 21m

Lets examine the FLOPS:

Aug Juliano Belletti    Barcelona                       £3.7m
July Florent Malouda    Lyon                            £13.5m
June Tal Ben Haim    Bolton                   
June Claudio Pizarro    Bayern Munich   
June Steve Sidwell    Reading                 

May Salomon Kalou    Feyenoord                        £8m


July Shaun Wright-Phillips    Manchester City     £21m
June Asier Del Horno    Athletic Bilbao                £8m
Jan Jiri Jarosik    CSKA Moscow                         £4.83m
July Tiago    Benfica                                             £10m
July Mateja Kezman    PSV Eindhoven                  £5m
July Paulo Ferreira    Porto                                 £13.2m


Total = £87.07m worth of flops, or £74m worth of flops in 2 seasons alone. So where do you get £39m from. Take out your rose-tinted contact lenses!

Note: Tiago was £10m, not £8m. Kalou may be even more. The fee was undisclosed.

Hehehehe. . . . . Paulo Rossi came from jail to play that 1982 World Cup. I think they got him for match fixing and collecting bribes.

What of Etim Essien?

TKB, wetin Maldini dey do for your list? He is a choirboy.

What of Andoni Goixotxea, the butcher of Bilbao and Paulo Rossi?

Eboue is a born again Christian. You guys should leave him alone jare.

Does it fall on the Senate and House to ratify the Constitution? Can a Turkey vote for Christmas?

This is a soft 11. How about Edmundo aka Edjimundo the Animal, Maradona, Vinnie Jones, Effenberg, Duncan Ferguson etc?

somze:
(1.) Every team has players that failed to live up to expectations. This is nothing new.

(2.) Jarosik was not brought in by scouts. Smertin was by RA.

(1.) Not where you have 80% of the signings flop. That is approaching Roy Keane levels

4 hits out of 17 signings? Come on mehn! Please calculate the percentage on that, then come back and tell me Jose has a flawless transfer record.

(2.) Nobody mentioned Smertin as Morinho's signing. Jarosik was absolutely brought in by Jose. He impressed Jose playing for CSKA against Porto. This was in the papers.

somze:
Malouda was only brought in when JM was forced to let Robben leave.

Excuse me. . . . Malouda cost £13 million. . . . If Jose was not completely incompetent at transfer signings, he would have added £4m to that and signed Scarface from Marseille. . . . not to mention there are at least 20 better wingers you can sign for that money. . . . and I am not just saying this now, I always hated Malouda.

somze:
Failed buys were Kezman and Del Horno. Ferreira can not be described in full terms as a failed buy.

You must be joking. . . . ferreira is an absolute flop. . . . even you hate him. . . . another £13m down the drain.

somze:
So you see close scrutiny shows that things are not as bad as the media says.

I am the only one providing any scrutiny here. You are glossing over the facts.

somze:
(1.) And who stopped Scolari from buying players?

(2.)JM has more than delivered on the players he got. Scolari himself claimed this team was adequate, so in that he has less of an excuse than JM had.

(1.) Peter Kenyon, Roman Abramovic. Have you read the newspaper recently

(2.) Scolari only said the squad is adequate to gee up his players. All managers show confidence in a new squad. You think he is going to fight for new signings and create friction with his owner on the first day of his new job?

Robben and Cech are Ranieri/Pini Zahavi signings.

Infact, if we add Ben Haim, Jose's transfer success dips below 5% 

As for Mikel, he is not yet a hit, not at £16m anyway.

I already put Kalou as a flop.

somze:
Ibime,

Please kindly clarify your statement concerning the millions JM spent that yielded nothing. Your views are totally flawed.

Firstly, I didn't say that. I said money was wasted on players.

The trophies are expected for the level of money he spent. If you spend £100 million a season and win nothing, you should be castrated.

What do I owe Jose for doing the job I expected of him? Gratitude maybe, Worship? No! He delivered on expectations, nothing more!

somze:
Incontrovertible evidence shows JM bought players only in his first 2 seasons, these players delivered and most of them remain till date. Our solid defense (or what it was) is a testament to his acquisition. It is a known fact that in his third season he ceased to be apart of the player acquisition team as the politics unfolded,

I mentioned Kalou, SWP, Ferreira, Malouda. . . . you had no rebuttal. . . . the only HITS Jose ever signed in three years of spending millions are Essien, Drogba, Cole and Carvalho. . . . . and for the price they were signed, I would say they just delivered on expectations, nothing more, except for Cole who came relatively cheap because his contract was running out.

Misses: Jarosik, Ferreira, Malouda, SWP, Kezman, Kalou, Del Hot  , Tiago (Thats £90 million worth of misses in 2 seasons alone)

I am not even counting the signings of Pizarro, Belleti and Sidwell because I accept he had no money in his final season.

Jose has 30% success rate with signings if we take his first two seasons alone.

If we take his final season into account, then Roman has every right to sue him for fraudulent expenditure. 

Literally, divide 4 by 12, then multiply by 100, you will see that only 33% of Jose's signings came off in his first two seasons. If we add Pizzarro, Sidwell, and maybe Belleti from his final season, then his transfer success dips below 20%.

It is the same at InterMilan where Muntari alone has been a hit.

With the money Jose spent, we should have a squad similar to Barcelona of 2006 by now.

Note: I did not add Smertin, Sheva, Ballack or Boulahrouz who were signed by Abramovic and Arnesen.

somze:
So much for Romantic Football . . . since you had your wish we have won nothing.

You are a joker. . . . did Avram Grant play entertaining football or did he play Jose style of football? Like I said, Scolari is neither a success or failure . . . . YET. . . . and even if he fails, he has mitigating circumstances, namely, he does not have 1/20th of Jose's money, he is stuck with a team who were bought specifically to play Jose's style of football and he does not have a squad even close to Jose's squad of 2004. . . . not to mention that Manchester United of 2008 is more formidable than anything Jose ever had to face. . . . . give any manager the money Jose was given and if he wins nothing, then he should be castrated!

somze:
We are not a club with as much history as Arsenal or ManU so when we don't win, we fail to make money. You stated earlier that Roman has lost half his wealth to the global recession, what do you think will happen if we continue to play your sort of footie and fail to win trophies?

Which is exactly the reason we need a manager who can deal with a thin squad and not ask for £50 million every transfer window. Does Jose know what to do with guys like belleti and Anelka except pump long balls to them? If you are not an animal who can run marathon in less than a minute, Jose does not know what to do with you. Under Jose's reign, if Petr Cech didn't play, then its a disaster. This season, Cudicini has played half the matches and we don't even notice the difference. Simple reason: We keep the ball, so our goalie isn't under as much pressure. Are you telling me Jose would have more points on board than Scolari with the squad we have had this season? Hell Nah! If you think otherwise, you must be smoking cashew leaves!


If na money we want talk about sef, we received more revenue under Avram Grant than we ever did under Jose simply by making the Champions League final - and we didn't have to spend spend £100m on players just to accrue such revenue.

Scoalri is neither a success or a failure. . . . YET. . . . anyone taking bets on either side of the debate is exposing himself to a 50% chance of losing his money. . . . . Somze and Nateevs would be well advised to tone down their rhetoric in order to avoid being left with rotten egg on their face. . . . .

Debosky, most of the allegations you are aiming at Nateevs actually should be aimed at me (we are often confused with one another). . . . . I didn't like Mourinho for simple football principle, as well as human principle. . . . I enjoyed the first 2 years as long as we were successful. . . . but when the drama came in his third year, I turned my back on him cos I hate his style of football and his personality. . . . I only like it as long as it comes with success. . . .the same principle why I always hated Juventus, despite all their success. . . . their football was too robotic. . . . call me a romantic, but that is what it is. . . . I also felt he had run his course as several relationships began to breakdown, his players became greedy, as did he, always asking for new astronomical contracts. . . .not to mention that the Premiership was becoming tighter, more teams were playing 5 in midfield and the blueprint which Mourinho brought to the Premiership was being sussed out and copied by everyone from Aston Villa to Blackburn. . . . it became more and more difficult to win games. . . . that is why i say Mourinho was at the end of his cycle. . . . but his biggest failing was in transfer policy. . . . after 3 years of spending x millions of pounds, we were left with shit like Malouda, SWP, Kalou and Ferreira. . . . for me, that is unacceptable. . . . couple that with the unimaginative loss to Liverpool in the Champions League and it was a closed story. . . . . I stand by my principles, whether Mourinho's successors achieve his success or not. . . . . I had many years of finishing 4th. 5th and 6th before Abramovic came. . . . I still remember the loss in Tromso, the loss in Tel Aviv, the 5-3 FA Cup loss to Man Utd in Jan 2008 when we were losing 5-0 at half-time. . . . these are the glory years, enjoy it. . . . Scolari does not have the same squad as Mourinho, that is quite simple. . . . true supporters always support the team, regardless of the manager. . . . some guys support started waning after Mourinho got sacked. . . .

Nigerians love to engage in self delusion. They delude themselves that age doesn't count in football, hence they put players such as Kanu and Yak on a pedestal, praying over their every move, wishing for their selection in Super Eagles. This is simple lack of accountability and corrupt mentality. Then they send 40 year olds to the World cup and wonder why they do not succeed. Instead of speaking the truth and holding their NFA accountable, they involve themselves in big-man worship. You cannot take wrong actions and expect good results, deluding yourselves all the way that the players you are sending in to battle are match-fit and capable of doing the job.

Add this question:

Is it practical for women in tropical rainforests and creeks to wear Burkha?

Islam is desert culture, too rigid to spread beyond Desert and Savannah terrain.

Frizy:
Now I want to be open minded with you, which system do you think would bring sanity to an insane society like Lagos? Armed robbery, yahoo, prostitution, corruption, now homosexuality, I can continue with all these unresolved crimes committed daily.
Which? Please with a proper objective analysis if you may?

Which system do you think will bring sanity to an insane society like Kano? Ethnic cleansing, glue sniffing, soakaway sniffing, embalment fluid ingestion, summary mutilation, forced child marriage, child molestation, female genital mutilation, female oppression, slavery and serfdom, now bestiality.  I can continue with all these unresolved crimes committed daily.
Which? Please with a proper objective analysis if you may?

It is threads like this that prove that these guys are unflinching in their quest to conquer the whole world, whether by sword or stealth. Keep your religion out of my system of law - and that goes for Christianity as well.

nateevs:
Transfer News. . . .

This guy is training with the first team . . . . Not heard a lot about him . . . "Orlando Carlos Braga De Sá". . .

A few videos of him . . He scores 3 headers in a U21 game against spain . . . Soon Chelsea will become a portuguese speaking national side. . .
http://videos.sapo.pt/of6ch6RrgdVwRB0c4NbZ




Hey this is the 3rd guy coming to the club in this manner. . . It's looks like we are finally dumping the idea of splashing Millions. . .
Kenyon might be right after-all. . .

If he is that good, why wasn't he in the Portugal squad for Euro 2008 ahead of the hapless Nuno Gomes?

Whats all the bruhaha?. . . . . player helps coach win game, you guys wanna turn it into something else. . . . . is the player not one of the coach's weapons?. . . . Scolari did say that he didn't have the players for long ball football, but when Drogba and Essien return he will be able to mix up the play. . . .

Whats all the bruhaha?. . . . . we are only talking about his medical situtation, not wishing him bad luck. . . . when an old player gets an injury, it is always career threatening. . . . ignorant illiterates with local mentality. . . . .

Sharia was written for people of the desert . . . .the customs and traditions laid out in Sharia cannot be practised in tropical rainforest areas such as Southern Nigeria. . . . imagine wearing Burkha inside creek for Niger Delta. . . . it's not practical mehn. . .

The indices used for comparing the cost of living in the West do not apply to Lagos or Naija. Does the writer think we are buying prawn sandwiches and drinking coffee with our $2 a day? He should come and check the price of Akamu and Akara, then come back and tell me that Lagos is the 30th most expensive city to live in. Psssst.

Miguel Cotto is the best, no doubt. Loss to Marguerito notwithstanding, he's still my guy. The only welterweight or light middleweight that Pacqiauo has defeated is De La Hoya who looked weight drained and old. I don't think Pacqiauo can survive in that weight division with guys like Cotto, Mayweather and Marguerito around. He should drop back down to light welterweight or lightweight and go after Ricky Hatton if he wants to prolong his career cos welterweight is a dangerous place to be.

Hehehehehe. . . . . tory done burst. . . . there is no doubt that most African countries were unprepared for independence. . . .still, na trouble you dey find calling for recolonisation.

Roman apparently lost £6 billion in the recent economic crisis (almost half his wealth), thats why Chelsea is on the back burner.

As usual, goal.com is first on the scene to survey the bloody carcass. BBC has now confirmed it.