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[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2912979#msg2912979 date=1223477353]La Liga is more expansive than Bundesliga. . . Why are they behind in goals/game ratio??
The denominator is the number of games played. . . . .Bundesliga's denominator is LESS than their counterparts in Europe thus higher ratio.
Less games = less fatigue, less tiredness, less stress, less strain. Am i in the land of Philistine?
How else would i explain this to an onanist like you??[/quote]Sorry, I cannot help but hammer home the point like a carpenter. Not to belabour the point like Katie Couric but these were the only explanations you gave for the better goal ratio until late last night:

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2912979#msg2912979 date=1223477353]Average goals per game depends largely on the number of games as the number of games is the denominator.
A change in the value of denominator ultimately changes the ratio, doofus!!![/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2912979#msg2912979 date=1223477353]It's no brainer. . . . . .Bundesliga play fewer games.
340 games compared to 380 as the denominator places em at a huge advantage.[/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2912979#msg2912979 date=1223477353]Of course, leagues with lower number of games would have higher goal/game ratio.
This is not rocket science. . . . . . .La Liga, Premiership and Serie A are more enterprising with more goals scored but the difference in denominator is 40 games which is huge by the time it becomes a denominator.[/quote]As we can see, they were all Mathematical faux pas. There is no getting away from it. You never mentioned tiredness or any other factor. Infact, I suggested that tiredness would be a better excuse than the inept mathematical excuse you were giving. Thats when you took it up and tried to cover up your fatal blunder. Too late! We don't believe you, you need more people!

lol. Just admit you made the mother of all goofs. You will never live this down

Guffanti!

Where is Cristalz? See as una just dey give Manure bad name. Na only illiterate dey support Manure?

Your argument was a simple Mathematical argument. . . . . now you are bringing tiredness into the equation, which was not your initial position. . . . your initial position was a position of complete mathematical ineptitude:

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2911763#msg2911763 date=1223465474]Average goals per game depends largely on the number of games as the number of games is the denominator.
A change in the value of denominator ultimately changes the ratio, doofus!!![/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2911763#msg2911763 date=1223465474]It's no brainer. . . . . .Bundesliga play fewer games.
340 games compared to 380 as the denominator places em at a huge advantage.[/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2911763#msg2911763 date=1223465474]Bundesliga play 340 games in total compared to Serie A, EPL and La Liga who play 380 games each.
It's no rocket science that Bundesliga would have the highest goal/per game ratio.
Can u now see how dumb your are?[/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2911763#msg2911763 date=1223465474]Of course, leagues with lower number of games would have higher goal/game ratio.
This is not rocket science. . . . . . .La Liga, Premiership and Serie A are more enterprising with more goals scored but the difference in denominator is 40 games which is huge by the time it becomes a denominator.[/quote]Time and time again, you have offered denominator as your reason for better goal average in Bundesliga. . . . now you are changing mouth to talk about tiredness.

You have just proved yourself the dumbest dude on Nairaland. Simple Primary 1 ratio, you no fit understand.

tope2000:
But I do agree that Buffet would probably be the best man for the job as Secretary of Treasury because it wouldn’t be about politics really it would be about saving the economy just as I believe Mayor Bloomberg has tried to accomplish for NY since 9-11.

Nobody has asked Buffet if he wants the job. . . . they are just calling his name up and down any and anyhow. . . . .you think Buffet has time for that kind of job when he has his investors to think about?. . . . besides, he is too old. . . and public office doesn't pay well enough.

[quote author=nigeria1@/ link=topic=180286.msg2912641#msg2912641 date=1223474149]Liberia war. satellite picture shows you. Nigeria would very soon have genecede. Since the north like the tunsi liked about their population for many, and ruled the majority south as seen in the satellite picture like the huntu. When the huntu discovery their are majority they went out to kill tunsi. The same thing would happen in Nigeria. The south would attempt genocede on the north too. If you fail to review the contitution.[/quote]Tutsis and Hutus dey Liberia? Stop smoking seaweed dawg!

OK, back to Guffanti:

Let us look at your nobel-prize winning theory:

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2911763#msg2911763 date=1223465474]Average goals per game depends largely on the number of games as the number of games is the denominator.
A change in the value of denominator ultimately changes the ratio, doofus!!![/quote]OK, if we add Bundesliga from 2006/2007 and 2007/2008, we had 306 games in each, therefore we have a larger denominator of 612. . . . . so by your theory, the average goals scored in Bundesling over a 2 year period should be lower because the denominator has doubled. . . . .

We had 835 goals in 06/07 and 860 goals in 07/08. . . . therefore the average over the two years is (835+860)/612 = 1695/612 = 2.77

Now by your theory, if we take just ONE Premierleague season, we should have a better average since the denominator will only be 380 (which is a lot less than 612). . . . . . so we have: 1002/380 = 2.64

2.77 > 2.64                           

QED


GUFFANTI! Na you biko!

Please return your father's money.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=180248.msg2912288#msg2912288 date=1223470703]Okay, all our constitutional lawyers are encouraged to wade in. Is health care a right or is it a responsibility as McCain suggested? The apparent perception of what it is determines what policy a candidate will propose.

Can we get some contributions please![/quote]I can offer some contributions. . . . . Thank God I live in Europe. . . .

Do you know that America spends more than twice as much per person as Britain does on Healthcare?. . . .  does the free market really reduce prices as far as health is concerned?. . the evidence would suggest not. . private healthcare is on average £40 a month for gold cover in Britain. . . . . . how much do you guys pay again?. . . . the fact is that public healthcare brings down the price of private healthcare in Britain. . . . whilst a fully privatised Healthcare allows costs to roam wild. . . . this is an indirect taxation on the American people. . . . drugs are more expensive in USA. . . . infact, everything to do with health is. . . . it is obvious that your model isn't working.

The fact is that insurance companies are skimming away money that should all be put into the Healthcare system. . . . .on average, how much Insurance is actually spent on Healthcare. . . . I can bet you 40% of that money does not go toward health costs. . . . this is simple Mathematics. . . . in Britain, we pay a certain amount of tax for our Healthcare. . . . all of that money is spent on Health. . . . in America, you pay for Healthcare and insurance companies skim off 40% as profits on their balance sheet. . . . who is making sense here?. . . .to me, this is just another tax, and a heafty uneccessary one at that. . . .no wonder you guys always complain about Medicaid. . . . the fact is that if you take away the free market, universal Healthcare becomes cheaper. . . . . I repeat, Medicaid is not the true cost of Universal Healthcare. . . . under Universal Healthcare, you will pay less in "tax apportioned for healthcare" than you do for your premium.

https://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/10/8/f_Healthcarem_48de3c5.gif
Annual healthcare spending per capita

. . . . . . so much for creating a free market for a public good. . . .Britain’s NHS has, without fear of challenge, one distinction. It is the best-buy model of health care in the Western world in the sense that it manages to offer a comprehensive coverage of the entire population at the least cost as measured by the proportion of the national income devoted to health care. . . . http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/4/1/41.pdf . . . Yankee need to catch up to Europe. . . . that's why British conservatives, including Margaret Thatcher support health care as an absolute right of citizenry

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2909592#msg2909592 date=1223420809]306 games compared to 380 games. . . . . .Knock your head twice and think about it for once.
If the Premiership reduces their number of games to 306, they would record higher ratio than the Nazis.[/quote][quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2909592#msg2909592 date=1223420809]Average goals per game depends largely on the number of games as the number of games is the denominator.
A change in the value of denominator ultimately changes the ratio, doofus!!![/quote]Guffanti, na you biko!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2909545#msg2909545 date=1223420085]let me enlighten u gorillas once and for all.
At the start of a season, everyone is fresh and u can expect teams to score more goals in the first half of the season than the latter half.[/quote]Ehe. . . now you have changed the argument from a mathematical one to a psycho-physical one. Maybe we should send analysts to chart the effect of mental and physical tiredness on goal output. However, this is a better argument than your nonsensical mathematical argument. I will send you slippers for Christmas since you like flip-flopping so much.

We can also test this new theory of yours by adding the goals scored from the last 76 games of 2006/2007 to the goals from the 304 games from last season, then divide by 380. Even though the argument would be skewed in your favour, we will still have a goals-per-game ratio far higher than the Premiership. . . . at which point, you will offer an explanation that 2006/2007 was not a World Cup or Euro Cup year and players were not saving their energy for any tournaments, hence they could have a higher goal output than usual. 

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=163367.msg2909495#msg2909495 date=1223419344](1.) I never said average is not an adequate tool for measuring goals per game.

I would accept La Liga and Serie A 's ratios because they play the same number of games as the Premiership. Bundesliga does not and they have been recording the highest goals per game for the last 19 years.

(2.) They don't even have the Henrys, Ruuds, Shearers, Andy Coles and Cristiano Ronaldos of this world who have scored consistently down the years.
So what could be responsible for Bundesliga's dominance in this aspect IF NOT the fact that they play less games.

The stats have shown Bundesliga has been leading for the last 19 years as far as goals/game are concerned.
Hell, the closest the Premiership has come was in 99/2000 season when 1060 goals was recorded which is still 8 goals shy of the (2.81 index).[/quote](1.) Yes, you did. According to you, it is mathematically incorrect to compare an average taken over 306 numbers with an average taken to base 380.

(2.) So that would lead to another argument about the strength or lack thereof of Bundesliga defences, the attitude with which they approach the game, or the weakness of Bundesliga's lesser teams. . . . however, this is not the argument you proffered. . . . the argument you proffered was a mathematical one, leading us to question your mathematical competence as evidenced by the humogous mathematical gaffes you have made on this thread. . . . my argument is not whether Bundesliga is better or not. . . .it is not IMO. . . . my argument is that you have solidified your Guffanti reputation by failing to graps simple mathematical concepts.

lol

I no want enter this debate. . . . but Darefestus, see as your guy just dey change mouth. . . . he went from claiming that average is not an adequate tool for measuring the goals-per-game ratio because of some Mathematical misfunction of his. . . . to claiming that as the number of games increases, the number of 0-0 draws increase, causing the goals-per-game ratio to go down. . . . completely discounting the fact that large data sets smoothen skewered results.

To test if his theory is true, we can easily add the no of goals scored in the first 74 games of this season in the Bundesliga to the goals in the 306 games of last season, then divide by 380 to get a comparable ratio that would either disprove or prove his argument. . . . . Dayo, over to you.

Guffanti, Guffanti! I hail you o! You have outdone yourself again.

Of all your goofs, this takes the cake.

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=179323.msg2909310#msg2909310 date=1223416374]Haba oga Ibime! I totally skipped both manuel and nelson.
Didnt Redondo play on the wings for Brazil?[/quote]Redondo played for Argentina. . . .

Guffanti,

The average number of goals scored levels out the disparities in the number of games played, allowing one to compare the goals scored in both leagues by their central tendency over 1 game.

You seem to forget that both numerator and denominator increase with an increase in the number of games. Over a sufficient number of games, the effects of any skewed results are flattened out and we can assume that the average is a valid comparison between leagues that play 200 games < x < infinity.

Please go back to school. 

Average is something you learn in Primary 1 or 2. 

How can you play Les Ferdinand and Cavenaghi in central midfield with Redondo on the left? You are not serious.

And where are Manuel and Gelson Fernandes that you could easily slot into midfield? Or Fernandao you can play as a playmaker?

So far, this is the most ridiculous team submitted.

lol. . . . na2day is Hausa, Yoruba, Urhobo, Isoko, Igbo, Ijaw . . . . . depending on where the chick is from, e go blend.

lol. . . . . Jackal need to go back to primary school. . . . are you sure this guy did not buy his WAEC paper?

Tatase:
my mom is ijaw so I'm half. I don't speak Ijaw too well, I talk like a baby in it. But I don't really recognize any of the dialects anyone has spoken here. Samples of my Ijaw (with dodgy spelling) for those trying to learn:

Tamuno: God
Ibi: Good
I dan loku: How are you?
An loku oforie/Ibi me: I'm fine
I we ri so: Leave me alone
Bo: Come
Sebo: Bring it
So: Go
O fo rie: It's not there
Fikiri: Hurry
Baweria: Good night

[quote author=na2day? link=topic=55702.msg2904436#msg2904436 date=1223352079]ha, thats more like kalabari.[/quote]Not at all. . . . . .she is Okrika. . . . Okrika dialect is extremely unique amongst the Ijaws. . . . we are the only ones who greet with I dan loku. . . . .Tatase, Idani?. . . . Omoge and I are resident Okrikans on Nairaland. . . .  which town in Okrika are you from?. . . . . I'm from Ogan-Ama.

dayokanu:
Mention 5 footballer with van as name asides the ones I mentioned

Van Maarwijk, Jelle Van Damme, Peter Van der Heyden. . . . I'll let others complete the list.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=179323.msg2899372#msg2899372 date=1223261524]@Ibime
They are all Cape Verdians[/quote]£10 on its way to you. Gimme your account details.

mon amie:
Knew u would fall for that because irrelevant details and not context only matter to those with shallow minds. If you must know, the brain is so configured to grasp the context of any fimiliar word irrespective of the way and manner in which the letters are placed so long as the first and last are properly placed.

It's familiar, not fimiliar

mon amie:
Everyone who is not from the Niger Delta region has suddenly become a parasite. May God have mercy on you by refusing people like you positions of representative authority else the nation would not be far fetched from a battle ground.

KPOA!

I was wondering if any of you saw Hannity's America yesterday titled "Barrack Obama: History of radicalism"

To be frank, I have never been so disgusted in my life.

The gutter journalism on display plumbs the depths of depravity.

It is absolutely and categorically racist. There is no excuse.

The show entertained several conspiracy theorists linking Obama with everyone from Louis Farrakhan to Saudi Arabian extremists.

Is this the future of black America? Is this what happens to a black man when he tries to break through the glass ceiling?

I hope Nairaland Republicans will condemn these actions.

Below are parts 1-6 of the show in that order.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HZMD97nMw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1TAnDcQyjA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y3U383Ffuk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7g__--BJ9I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxCZzxEfUAs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxfQD4If7kk

Henrik Larsson                Nani


Manuel Fernandes         Patrick Vieira             Gelson Fernandes           Nelson


Ricardo Faty              Jorge Andrade              Jacques Faty                  Miguel       


                                                        Jose Veiga



Who can tell me the link without consulting wikipedia?

ow11:
Daniel Aranzubia

Daniel Van Buyten Daniel Agger
Dani Alves Danny Pugh (ex-Leeds Utd)

Daniele De Rossi

Danny Murphy Daniel Carvalho


Danny Alves (Zenit) Danny Koevermans Danny Welbeck

C: Daniel Passarella
Asst: Danny Blind

No space for Danny Shittu!!

Phock Danny Shittu. . . . but how can you leave out our own Amokachi? At least make him Assistant Manager na!

Oliseh to Danny Blind: "You are not my coach so don't tell me what to do."

Others:

Danny Dichio
Daniel De Ridder
Danilinho

And the greatest of the Daniels. . . . . . . . . . , . . . , . . . , .

Dan Petrescu!

13 years no be joke abeg. Make them leave the guy jare.

Even the initial killing of his wife sef no deserve 13 years sef. Naija man can kill his wife for less.

I am waiting for a team of Traore's. . . . . Debo, over to you.

I didn't see the match either but the radio said we played our best game this season

doyin13:
Pavel and Paulo and Pablo and Paul

All na Paul na.

Don't worry, I will soon add Pavyluchenko to make it more exotic.

Paul Peschisolido          Paulo Rossi         


Pavel Nedved               Paulo Bento               Paul Gascoigne           Paulo Aimar


Paulo Maldini                Paulo Cannavaro         Pablo (At Madrid)      Paul Parker


                                                  Paul Robinson


Manager: Paul Ince

Subs:

Paulo Ferreira
Pablo Zabaleta
Pablo Counago 
Pablo (Barcelona)
Diego Pablo Simeone
Pablo Piatti

Does anyone have any links to the game? Justin.TV isn't working.

Joe Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooole!

Orimili:
Well, you keep telling yourself that, and one day even you will believe it. You have no idea what my level of education is. Where are your credentials? You copy and paste information that I've seen before, and trust me, it doesn't help your argument at all.

Here we go. . . . everybody has credentials. This is a public forum and anyone can claim anything. Everything I tell you is from my study of the markets and my work with my Investment club. I do not copy and paste anything like those who read others opinions on blogs and accept it as truth. Infact, I have never read a single write-up about the bailout except to see the details of Paulson's plan. Everything is from my head and is stuff that's been in the financial papers for the last year. Thats why I back my arguments with emperical evidence of what is happening on the ground in terms of the banks. Connecting the dots is essential. Even if you have something in front of you, you may still misrepresent the information it contains. Everything I write on here contains information and knowledge that took years of grooming. Even if you disagree with the bailout, my posts should give you a sense of how the markets work. You are a student. Keep studying. But remember that not much is/was learned in school. As for School levels, lets just say I don pass postgraduate level.

Orimili:
It's also fundamental for businesses to to fail when leaders make irresponsible decisions, and bankers are not exempt. When you ignore a problem of such magnitude and keep feeding to it, especially with bailouts and such, it only gets bigger. To have the government jump in every time you have a problem, defeats the very purpose of capitalism. If the public has to foot the bill every time a banker is in trouble, they have every right to have an opinion, even if they do not know much about economics. If anything, they, like myself, take the little time that I have outside of classes, to better understand how bad the credit situation is.

@ Bolded - again, we drift into ideological talk.

Banking crisis is like no other. Credit crunch is a network failure. If the automotive or any other sector fails, the whole economy will not be affected much except the Banking sector is heavily invested.

The last time we had such a debt crisis and a subsequent credit/capital squeeze was 1929. Go figure!

People underestimate the effect of panic and disinvestment. Panic drives money out of the capital markets. That in turn drives capital out of Main Street and the rest is history. The overwhelming supplier of capital to Main Street is the Capital markets. Again, what more can I say?

On top of that, every other company in every other sector will only collapse after a lengthy period of downturn. A bank can fall in a day. All it takes is for investors to make a run on it. And by investors, I am not talking about Joe Public. Rather, I am talking about other banks and Hedge Funds who are it's creditors and equity holders. Even bad rumours can lead to fatal divestment. Ditto the run on Northern Rock by Joe Public. Whichever way you look at it, the banking sector is a unique sector.

Orimili:
True, a single $700 Billion payout is not going to screw the economy, but that money is the maximum that can be taken out at a single time. If AIG could burn through $61 billion in less than a couple weeks, I'm sure that in a few months, the US will want another $700 billion, and in a few months another, and another, ad infinitum. You are an 'expert' at this, so you know where this is going. This money isn't growing the economy at all, and you know that, so let's not continue to play ourselves.

What attitude is this? You sound like all financial institutions know how to do is burn money. You are starting to sound like a marxist. Again, surface knowledge does you no favours. Sorry to take a harsh tone with you but if you keep insisting on putting out these half baked arguments and be stubborn about them at the same time, then. . . . .Firstly, I was never behind AIG's initial bailout the same way I think Government made the right decision not to bailout Lehmann Bros. . . . .However, I did support the Govt takeover of 80% of AIG. They should have done it earlier instead of giving AIG money. . . .However, AIG did not blow the money. They already had other operations outstanding which they had to pay for. It is not like they went and lost all of Government's money. On top of that, they also had to unwind their derivative positions and payout all their counterparties. . . .even still, creditors called in their loans, leaving AIG in a terminal situation. . . . . finally, stop taking financial arguments from politicians.