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Na so craze dey start.

[quote author=Lite-n-Cee link=topic=174334.msg2852834#msg2852834 date=1222349094]please remember that prior to 2003 elections many parts of PHC were engulfed in heinous bloodleting, from Amadi-Ama to Diobu. please don't forget the Deegbam vs Deewell, Ateke vs Bushboys, Asari vs Ateke bloodbathing of those days. At that time the word 'militant' has not entered niger delta dictionary ! , but now 'militants' have 'offices' where they recieve 'pictures' and phone numbers of people to be contacted for ransom or be kidnapped !! [/quote]Your knowledge of history is highly questionable. All the above are part of the 2003 election campaign. Let me tell you - Ateke vs Bushboys was fought because Odili sent Ateke to burn my town George-Ama as part of his attempts to cripple Rufus Ada George's political structure. Ateke vs Bush Boys also coincided with Abiye Sekibo's attempt to force PDP bigwig Chief AK Dikibo into the throne of Amanyanabo during the Tuboniju and Coniju crisis in Okrika. My cousin died fighting for the Bush Boys against Ateke so shut ya trap about what you don't know.

Asari joined the Bush boys to drive Ateke out of Okrika mainland and only failed because Ateke received back up from the Police. If you want to go further back, maybe you can tell me the history of the Bush boys - the Bush boys were sponsored by Federal Government to take out the Ogonis during the Okrika-Ogoni wars of 1995 after the death of Saro-Wiwa. My other cousin fought in that war and told me of all the assistance they recieved from FG.

As for Amadi-Ama, that was where I spent my childhood before moving to Borokiri. I grew up amongst the Amadi's and know them to be a peace loving people. They and the Abulomas have been at loggerheads with the local military camp since the early 90's. Of course there were a few skirmishes here and there but nothing that you wont find in the rest of Nigeria. There is enough unemployment in Nigeria and all these skirmishes are expected given the tribal nature of politics.

[quote author=kay_pumpin link=topic=175423.msg2848676#msg2848676 date=1222279940]meaning no vice presidential debate??[/quote]There will be a debate. This is what I mean:


The McCain campaign has insisted that the Thursday, October 2 debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees. With this format there will be much less occasion for impromptu direct exchanges between Palin and Biden.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.

The bickering and power struggle was chiefly between the McCain-Palin camp and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates which is sponsoring the forums.

Commission members wanted a relaxed format that included time for follow-up questioning and challenges between the vice-presidential candidates. Last week, the Commission rejected a proposal from advisers to Palin and McCain for few if any free flowing or flexible interactions. Advisers to Biden say they were comfortable with either format.

A commission member said that the new agreement on the vice-presidential debate was reached late morning Saturday. It calls for shorter blocks of candidate statements and open discussion than at the presidential debates.

Abagworo:
The problem is rooted in the pre-independence balkanization of the Ijaw speaking area in the Niger delta.They developed a kind of apathy for strangers

Is that so? Please educate me more. If you don't know, we have many links with many tribes and many intermarriages with many tribes. Per capita, we probably have the most intermarriages with Europeans sef. Apathy for strangers ke.

Look at this one. . . . since when did Bible not support interracial marriages? . . . Moses wife was black, so was Queen of Sheba.

You need to stop reading Mormon bible.

McCain will kill Obama in the debates. Take my word for it. McCain is really quick on his feet when it comes to one-on-ones. Obama is no match for McCain's quick wittedness.

Meanwhile I am hearing that the Republicans have censored the Vice Presidential debate. They obviously know that Biden will kill Palin.

I agree wholeheartedly. Nigeria is just a young country experiencing growing pains and in the grip of feudalism. Europe was the same in the 19th century and they had had democracy since the 17,00's. It will take another 100 years or so before we start to see any semblance of a civilised prosporous nation. One thing that encourages me is that media are starting to grill politicians on their record which is the first step on the road to accountability. Now every politician has to explain his actions to the people. This was not the case during the military era.

bawomolo:
what nigeria needs to do is shift to an ideological based political system and not these cult of personality politicians claiming to be awoist, followers of the saraduna BS. politicians in the south haven't distinguished themselves from politicians in the north.

If we form ideology based systems, the North will turn Nigeria to Afghanistan. We all know that no ideology, neither socialism nor capitalism resonates with the North unless it is linked to religion.

Kaspersky antivirus always does the job for me. There is no virus it cannot take down.

Grafik, it is like Jumanji on Nairaland today. . . . animals everywhere. . . . see dis one making mouth about Northerners are born to rule. . . . .people love power but never do anything with it that can benefit Nigeria. . . .then come and make mouth about their leadership qualities. . . . God bless OBJ, if not for anything, at least for organising our capital markets.

You mean illiteracy not iliteracy right?

Eziachi:
Here we go again, another unsolicited advise, another expert on Ndigbo, which every Dick and Harry seems to be. Tell me, how united were the Yoruba nation behind Obasanjo in 1999 before he becomes a president? And did that hamper him? How united were the north in 2007 behind one candidate? If I recall correctly, Buhari and Atiku are still in court fighting Yar Adua's selection called election and Buhari and Yar Adua happens to come from the same state even. I can't imagine what the sermon will be now if they are Igbos, on how disunited they are.

Igbos are expected to become robots programmed to speak as one before they will become president Nigeria. The north has 3 candidates in 1979/83 and Yorubas has two, Chief Awolowo and Dr Braithweith and Igbos had one in Dr Azikiwe and that didn't stop Shagari or neither did we hear about disunity because of Aminu Kano and Waziri Ibrahim. Or did Azikiwe got elected according to your biased and idiotic theory.

What Biafran question are you vommiting about? How many Igbo elite politicians belong to MASSOB or identified with the quest for Biafra? The ruling party in Scotland (SNP) are committed towards taking Scotland out of the whole of United Kingdom and that never stop the Scotsman Gordon Brown becoming the UK's premier if that is the case.

Even if Igbos walk on their head or run around naked in the market place, people like you will always have something to crow about and still won't be satisfied. Only a foolish, myopic and sycophant Igbo son or daughter believes in project Nigeria anyway. Whenever the so called formular will reach South East (2032) there will always be a story to be told, even a coup will not be a less option if possible. Leave us a alone please!!!!!!!!!!!

As we don't give a damn who rules Nigeria as it doesn't or will make any difference to our lives, the problem is not who is ruling but the system under which Nigeria is built and being governed.

Good points, good points!

People also expect the same from South-South like we are a single cell organism programmed to speak and behave as one. They even ask us why we have bad leaders; then tell us we should blame our leaders; as if our leaders are not part of the same PDP election machine they suffer from.

Yeah, a friend of mine runs one:

http://www.lagosfinishingschool.com/

They are simply throwing their money away. Keving Keegan would ask them to buy Henry, Lampard and Schweinsteiger like he did to Mike Ashley. They better not make the mistake of employing Keegan. He knows nothing about the transfer market. I read somewhere that the Nigerians are looking to put aside £50 million for transfers. . . . let me guess. . . . Kevin Keegan will waste that money on 5 Andrew Johnsons or 5 Emile Heskeys at £10m each. . . . employing Kevin Keegan is like throwing money down the sink. . . . the stupid Newcastle fans also have unrealistic expectations. . . . can you believe that Kevin Keegan had never heard of Coloccini and Gutierrez before they signed?. . . . only in Newcastle is an idiot like Keegan considered to be a messiah.

Kobojunkie:
1) How much is America’s debt?

About $12.5 trillion

Up almost $2trillion in 2 months

Kobojunkie:
2) How much is the cost of war in total to date?

$ 0.8 trn so far

Kobojunkie:
3) How much debt has America racked up in the past 8 years.

About $7 trillion

Kobojunkie:
Very simple questions indeed. Now when you find the right answers, then you are better able to understand where the majority of America’s debt comes from.

OK. . . . so we all know where you are heading with this. . . . you would like to say that Medicaid and Social Security are the problem. . . . of course, they must be reigned in. . . . . but let us check this out:

Kobojunkie:
If you bring government to clamp down, we already see how well government has handled situations like Social security and Medicare.

USA spends 2.5 times as much on Medicaid per person than Britain spends on NHS per person. . . . .and guess what? Amost all Brits use NHS whilst less than 40% of Yanks use Medicaid. . . . .which would bring the true cost of Medicaid to about 5 times the cost in Britain per person. . . . . What is wrong with this picture?. . . .Why are drugs cheaper in UK than in America?. . . . .what happened to competition bringing prices down?

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-bandow072403.asp

Does introducing capital markets for a social good (Health) help or hinder universal healthcare?

Kobojunkie:
Lack of insight and regulation? You mean as soon as there are regulations the problems will be solved?.
LMAO!!! The disaster that has been looming?? It is easy to claim now that regulation would have solved this instead of attacking every party involved here. I personally do not believe the American economy is run by the government but by the people and they decide mostly which way things go. Right now, regulations are being marketed as a cure all for the economy but I am skeptical. ?.

Again, you fail to understand that the subprime crisis alone cannot bring down Yankee. . . . .what brought down Yankee was CDS's or Credit Default Swaps, which are private contracts that let firms trade bets on whether a borrower is going to default. When a default occurs, one party pays off the other. The value of the swaps rise and fall as market reassesses the risk that a company won’t be able to honor its obligations,  . . . these markets had NO regulation in the US. . . . infact, CDS's alone brought down Lehmann Brothers and were responsible for Frannie, Freddie, Bear Stearns, Northern Rock and AIG's exposures. . . . Warren Buffet described them as "financial weapons of mass destruction" way back in 2002. . . . nobody heeded his warning.

Read this to learn more on what really got us in this mess:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/sep/15/lehmanbrothers.wallstreet



This is what we are going to see now. . . . .tighter regulation on OTC's like they have in China. . . . .prior to now, Yankee had no regulation on derivatives. . . . .China brought regulations way back in 2004 when they were taking off in China.


Now check out the effect of the Bush tax cuts to the economy. . . . the $500 billion dollars a year deficit is accounted for by the war and by the tax cuts. . . . .without this, there is no deficit. . . . and these foreign debts lead to a falling dollar, less purchasing power and a rise in inflation. . . .this is Ok for an export economy. . . .but not an import economy like Yankee. . .  . therefore, you Republicans can try to deflect the blame elsewhere but the fact is that if not for your policies, there would be no yearly budget deficit. . . . infact, Bill Clinton cut national debt by $2.4 trillion, provided 5 times more jobs than Bush and still grew the economy whilst paying Social Welfare and Medicaid. . . . . Obama's tax proposals will increase debt to $16.1 trillion by the end of his term. . . . but McCains would increase it to $18.5 trillion. . . . .what a slippery slope!. . . . who is going to pull all this back?

Who cares where Presidency goes as long as people are still suffering. Like someone said, Presidency could be privatised for all I care. Thabo Mbeki should come and run Nigeria abeg. What kind of nonsense power rotation is this?

JTF spokesperson, Lt. Col. Sagir Musa, described MEND's gesture as good for the militants, the Niger Delta region, the nation and the international community.

He explained that the military was disposed to the amicable resolution of the crisis in the region and would continue to monitor situation on ground to ascertain that MEND was genuine.

According to him: "At the JTF level, we will continue to carefully and firmly monitor the situation, exercise limited level of restraint until MEND's new position is seen to have been actualised. We are open to the amicable resolution of this in-house crisis, hoping it is not going to be another tactical deception, which we are used to and are already prepared to contain."


It seems like JTF are happy to have the ceasefire. . . .they must have suffered as well despite claims to the contrary.

PHEW!

I will take that considering the start we made.

MOTM: Mikel by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!


Alex can be proud of his work. We can trust him. Ashley was also exceptional.

Anelka is getting on everyone's nerves with his lack of confidence and lack of knockout blow. I just wanna slap him! At least, to give him his due, he worked hard and stretched their defence.

Drogba not fully fit. His wife needs to chill on the pounded yam. Needs more conditioning and reserve games.

Joey must lose his place for the next game. Another poor performance against Man Utd. Kalou has earned right to start next game ahead of him.

Malouda should go and lie down somewhere. I wont even waste my time talking about this waste of space.

Everyone else played OK. Bosingwa and Cech made mistakes but they made up for it on overall performance.

Kalouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

These boys better not ruin my weekend. What kind of nonsense is this?

We started this game in the spirit of fear, or shall I say the spirit of Avram Grant. Even a blind man could see they would soon score from watching the first 10 minutes.

It was Mikel who dragged us back into the game.

If we are going to play the 4-3-3 of the previous regime, what is the point in having Malouda there? It is like having 2 left-backs.

I need to see Kalou and Drogba for Malouda and Anelka straightaway.

I woke up this morning to read this in my Sunday Times. It is written by an Independent Conservative and it is the most common sense I have read on the economy and articulates many of the points I have been trying to make on here. Very interesting article.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article4793410.ece



[center]A choice of Tweedledum or Tweedledumber[/center]
[center]by Andrew Sullivan[/center]

[center]The US economy is in crisis but neither presidential candidate has a credible solution[/center]


If you had decided to spend the past month on Mars and missed the slick Democratic convention and the surreal Republican riposte, you could look at the polls right now and wonder if you’d missed anything at all.

Vice-presidential nominees Joe Biden and Sarah Palin, the stunning barrage of lies and smears of the McCain campaign, the cautious conventionality of the Obama machine, the lingering bitterness of the Clinton cultists, the invasion of Georgia: none of it seems to have made much of a difference. The national polling reveals a classic consecutive convention bounce for both parties - something so obvious and boring it could have been predicted a year ago. And by the middle of last week the race was back to roughly where it started.

With one addition. The past few days have seen a marked surge in the polls for the Democrat. The fascination with the mendacious (see my blog, andrewsullivan. com, for the details) religious fanatic from Alaska has faded somewhat. Sarah Palin’s favourables went from +17 to +1 in six days as voters realised there was less than nothing behind the marketing and the cynicism of this sinister and philistine Manchurian candidate. But Americans have discovered that their economy is in what could be the biggest crisis since the Great Depression. They knew they were in trouble before. Now, however, they cannot deny the massive mess they and their leaders have put themselves in.

The reasons for this are well known. Since the mid1970s, most American incomes - with the marked exception of the very big - have stagnated as even growth in productivity has been swamped by far fiercer global competition and freer trade. Americans, resistant to the idea that their incomes cannot keep growing at the free-lunch pace of the 1940s to the 1970s, decided to get rich the easy way. They borrowed to reflate in the 1980s, played the stock market in the 1990s and gambled on the real-estate boom in the first decade of the 21st century.

The shrewd ones succeeded in gaining and then selling before it came crashing down. Most, as usual, didn’t. The greed that led many ordinary Americans to take out loans they had no way of repaying and the recklessness with which banks and mortgage companies satisfied that hunger are, in retrospect, staggering. Both the banks and the borrowers deserve their comeuppance. And a truly conservative, free-market administration would be happy to let them fail.

But Bush Republicanism is not and has never been anything like conservatism. Its government takeover of firm after firm this year outdoes the statism of the 1970s. Bush Republicanism has cut taxes regardless of fiscal reality and boosted domestic spending at a pace not seen since the Franklin Roosevelt era.

The president has never told Americans they cannot have it all; and, indeed, this trust-fund baby who never had to balance a personal budget led the way. In his term of office, he has added a staggering $32 trillion to the unfunded government liabilities future generations of Americans will have to bear. And he has borrowed and borrowed from the Chinese to ensure that the consequences of his fiscal madness will never come back to punish him.

But he failed in this, as in every other part of his disgraceful record. Just as his Iraq incompetence came back to haunt him, so his surreal economics has finally returned the favour. Watching the feckless Bush administration now is an almost perfect coda to the surreally anticonservative policies it has pursued from the beginning.

As the financial historian Ron Chernow told The New York Times last week: “We have the irony of a free-market administration doing things that the most liberal Democratic administration would never have been doing in its wildest dreams.” That has been the story for eight years: spend, spend, spend, borrow, borrow, borrow, lie, lie, lie. The one liberal policy the Bush administration did not follow was any serious regulation or oversight of the banking and lending industries. And so they did not merely make the American government bankrupt, but they enabled the private sector to head directly off that cliff as well.

Of the two candidates, one might hope that John McCain, who was once a fiscal conservative, scourge of excessive spending and believer in tight money, might have something to say. He opposed the Bush tax cuts in the first place as something Americans could not afford. And he voted against the budget-busting Medicare prescription-drug entitlement, the biggest expansion of the welfare state since Lyndon Johnson.

However, as he jettisoned every principle he ever held to appeal to the increasingly unhinged religious base of the Republican party, he abandoned fiscal conservatism as well. He now pledges not to change a jot or tittle of the Bush tax cuts, even as debt soars. He will not reform entitlements. He absurdly argues that the budget can be balanced by trimming a fraction of pork-barrel spending. And he still insists that the basics of the economy are sound.

And his response to the current crisis? At first, back in the primaries, he denied there was any such crisis. Then he turned populist. Last week he was railing against the greed of Wall Street. If markets need a steady hand in the next president, they should avoid McCain as the distracted, impulsive cynic he has revealed himself to be in this campaign.

Barack Obama is only slightly less disappointing. Instead of telling Americans in no uncertain terms that their recklessness has consequences, he too is peddling populist blather. He too will spend money the government doesn’t have to protect small-time borrowers from the consequences of their folly. He too blames companies that operated within the rules as dictated by Congress for maximising their profits by irresponsible lending. He is fiscally more responsible than McCain – and his economic proposals would add less to US debt. But he will not cut spending and is not the fiscal conservative the economy needs. And he is playing a conventional game of economic demagoguery to win votes.

I suspect he will be successful. The truth is: however hard McCain tries to change personality and policy to meet the next news cycle and polling, he cannot escape the simple fact of his Republicanism. He cannot play the maverick now – after abandoning his previous common sense to embrace the Bush-Cheney economic madness of the past eight years. If he had stuck to his principles of 2000, he might have had a chance as these Bush chickens came home to pelt the Republicans with droppings six weeks before election day.

McCain sold his soul a long time ago; in the past few weeks he has been auctioning it on eBay. He deserves to lose. On the economy, though, Obama is not exactly demonstrating that he deserves to win either.

Hehehehe. . . . Tpia will be flabberghasted to learn that MEND is already operating in Ondo State 

May MEND save us from the ravenous bullets of armed robbers and stifling oppressiveness of incompetent police officers. MEND '08 - Change we need! 

MEND are playing a good PR game here. . . . . those are some intelligent brothers.

Tayo D is living in a fantasy world. . . . the Bradley effect is alive and well. . . . it even affected Obama in the North Carolina primaries. . . . the polls had him ahead by 8 points and he still lost by 2 points. . . . if I remember correctly, Colin Powell was discouraged from running for the 1996 elections by the GOP because they told him the Bradley effect would affect his chances. . . . the fact is, if not for race, Obama would have a 20 point lead. . . . O'Reilly even alluded to it by saying "I don't think the polls are an accurate reflection because on polling day, many voters would be scared to vote for the 'new' guy". . . . we all know what that means.

[quote author=_Queenisha link=topic=171988.msg2831241#msg2831241 date=1221957218]Nigerian airways was just as good as British airways in their heydays[/quote]I am still young. Only the old ones can remember that.

We can now see that Joachim Lowe was the real force behind Klinsmann in 2006.

Thank God Chelsea didn't make that mistake of appointing him.

Alex Song is a gangsta!

You guys will not miss Flamini at all at all except for injuries.

lol. . . . Dayo, go and hide for a few days till the whole thing settles down.

Thank God I was never broke enough to fly Nigeria Airways . I still remember the poor service and broken toilets on Kabo airlines domestic flights.

Congrats to Zola. Just finished watching West Ham sink Newcastle 3-1.

I feel our greatest strength could be our weakness tomorrow. By that, I mean that the fulcrum of our attacks are Bosingwa and Ashley. I can just imagine Ronaldo or Nani exploiting the space behind them. The thought is scary. We have to make sure we dominate the ball in midfield so they don't have a chance to put Ronaldo in play. My sister got some corporate tickets to the match from her workplace but wont take me. Na so so beg I dey beg her today but she says it is business trip only. I just dey vex.

Nateevs, expecting your live commentary as usual.

LMMFAO. . . . Bashali is obviously Nigeria1. . . . dis guy dey craze ni!

I know this girl! I used to live in Enfield and I used to bank there. Quite likely I know the boys she passed the details to. Anybody that was doing C10's in Enfield at that time was an associate of mine, not by choice, but I grew up with a lot of these boys.

Kobojunkie:
So, how many of you have actually called your senators to speak out on the issue of national constitution review going on in abuja?

Please educate us on how to do this. . . . do you have a link to their phone numbers?