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[quote author=A-40 link=topic=16635.msg2296998#msg2296998 date=1211736717]I aint no Chelsea fan and i couldnt care less if you guys get relegated but i think Avram's sack is unfair i mean forget that he didnt win anything he is not to blame for yall going trophyless this season most of the players had their hearts elsewhere after Mourinho's exit Malouda is a very good example granted he signed Anelka which was a disaster but any sensible organization would give this guy time to build his own squad.Keep sacking and hiring and in another 3 seasons Newcastle's case would be better compared to yall[/quote]Listen mate, we got no problems with Grant . . . . . he did well . . . . but we know we can do better, thats all.

Chelsea always keep us entertained even off-season, so much politricks at the club.

Grant has packed his house up and is heading back to Israel. He is feeling hurt and betrayed and he says he knows who is behind it . . . . .  . . . . . .well Baba Grant, welcome to the paranoid world of Chelsea where Roman plays his staff against each other. . . . . . You were happy to throw stones when you didn't live in the glass house. . . . . but now you live in the glass house, you can see that it is no joke. . . . . now you are crying off to Israel like a little kid who lost his toys . . . . . be a man and handle it like a man would. . . . . like Jose did. . . . . because when it was his turn, you and Kenyon were holding meeting with Klinsmann, plotting to replace him . . . . et tu Brute?

Cos money is no object? Is it true that he bought him car? Which car cost £2m sef? I don'bilivit.

Somze, I could show you several hundred comments where people are saying 'phock Drogba'.

How can Grant say he feels betrayed?

Was he not the one who held meeting with Klinsmann when Jose was still manager?

When you work for the most ruthless man in football you should expect anything at any time.

Hehehehehehe . . . . . . . . Roman is crazy!

He said at a dinner speech that he has contributed 30% to the teams tactics and performance in terms of signing players, helping with formations etc.

I just heard it on BBC radio 5.

Maybe he wants to become the manager full time. Dis guy got identity crisis.

4 Play. I just dey ignore you but e be like say you no want rest. Anyway I'm done talking. Of course, we had more possession in many games. At the same time, it does not mean that if we did not have the lions share we were not the better side - something I have profoundly demonstrated by showing you the stats of our games with Liverpool, Fehnerbahce and Rosenborg. I have also used your game with Barca to show you that possession is not 9/10th of the law. Man Utd were dominant against Barca despite having probably 30-something % possession. Some teams play counter-attack and some teams play on the front foot. I have told you that we play mostly on the counter. Whether we have more possession or not also depends on the team we are playing and their style of play. All those 19 games you quoted don't matter because we did not lose any of them.

I think I have conclusively proved that possession stats do not determine ascendancy so please stop bleating on about this stupid point. Only an idiot will continue to argue this point. Man Utd had 51% possesssion and still lost 3-0 to Milan last year.

I am still waiting for you to show me where the experts have said that Man Utd were the better team. I have showed you links where it says European football writers think the better team lost. Oya, you show me the same thing for Man Utd. Until then I will not be drawn into your juvenile argument

Like Nateevs said, the manager has already been chosen. I wonder who it is. I hope it is Hiddink but I doubt cos if it was Hiddink, Grant sacking would have been delayed until after the Euro's so that Hiddink can step in straight away. This leads me to fear that it is either Mancini or Rijkaard, neither of whom I want.

4Play, I thought I told you to get thee behind me.

"I took the trouble to check on Ibime's crazy assertion that Chelsea effectively almost always concedes possession.I looked at their last 4 EPL games-Bolton,Utd,Everton and Wigan.

In all 4 games,Chelsea dominated possession.Even in the game against Arsenal at the Bridge,Chelsea dominated possession"

If you look at all those games, you will see that Essien played in midfield. Most of the time, we play a full-pressing game when he is in midfield because he has the energy for it. You can research the games when he plays midfield and the games he doesn't and look at the disparity in possession stats. Still, all those possession stats don't mean a thing.

You had 13 shots, we had 25. Five of your shots were on target, 1 of ours was on target. However Lampards shot that hit the bar and Drogbas shot that hit the post do not count as shots on target. Neither does Van Der Sar save from Ferdinand's header. So read past the statistics dude. You had territorial advantage because we defend in our own half whilst you defend higher up.

Anyway, here are some of the Champions League stats for games that we won or did well in. If you think that what you did is special, think again.

Just click on team stats on all the links.


Chelsea (3)    -   Liverpool (2)
  44.8% Possession 55.2%

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/chelsea-liverpool-231401.html



Chelsea (2)    -   Fehnerbahce (0)
  48.4% Possession 51.6%

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/chelsea-fenerbahce-229686.html


Rosenborg (0)    -   Chelsea (4)
      52% Possession 48%

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/rosenborg-bk-chelsea-208123.html

Yeah, they really dominated that one!



Valencia (1)    -   Chelsea (2)
  56.3% Possession 43.7%

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/valencia-chelsea-208116.html



I am still waiting for a link to prove you had 65% possession in extra time. I am also waiting for a link where the experts are claiming that the better team won.

I am not going to waste my time arguing with you unless you provide such links.

Farewell my man

Hope you get another decent club.

I am sure the pay-off was good so I shouldn't be too sorry for you.

If you look at the website, it is punchng i.e. punch as in the Nigerian newspaper. They are just relaying second hand info. The news is old. At least one week. I think it came out 3 or 4 days before the final or so.

hmmmm . . . . . . . . Snazzydaw, you fine o! Infact, you are very beauriful. Where are you based?

I'm not surprised and I don't blame him. You deserve a slap!


Chelsea for life.

Don't mind all these people jare. Tell the chick to scram. Tell her you are born again now if it is too hard.

Look, Nateevs, the midfield just plays to the managers instruction. I remember what Mourinho told them in last years FA Cup final. He said "you can enjoy the game by playing pretty football - or you can enjoy after the game by playing to my instruction. Play my way and we will win." So we set about to strangle the midfield and we won. The good thing about the midfield is that they are flexible. When it is time to attack, they will, when it is time to defend, they will.

How many times last year did Arsenal spend 90 minutes trying to break little teams down by passing the ball through them. In the end they didn't succeeed. They lost many games 1-0 against silly teams like Sheffield United.

Hleb to Fabregas, Fabregas dribbles, lays off to Rosicky, Rosicky shimmies and cuts inside, lays off to Hleb, Hleb beats one, two . . . . . . . . . . .but he can't create room for the shot . . . . . . . . . that was the story of Arsenal season last season. Even toward the end of this season we saw the same thing.

Now, I am sure we will agree that Arsenal typify the type of midfield you are talking about. But midfield cannot do it all by themselves.

I really don't understand how you could look at the non-contribution of the wingers on Wednesday and then turn around and blame the midfield when it was the midfield that dragged us back into the game.

As for whether we create attacks or whether we counter attack, I believe we can do both but the wingers let us down sometime. You are right that non-physical strikers haven't succeeded at Chelsea but that is not the fault of the midfield. That is because of the managers instruction to hit the ball long to the strikers and feed off the knockdowns. Remember, Mourinho didn't want Sheva, he wanted Benni McCarthy because McCarthy can be also used as a battering ram. Regardless of whatever it is, our wingplay needs fixing.

What would you prefer, this team:

                                                                      Cech

Bosingwa                          Carvalho                                         Terry                           Cole

                                                                     Maka

                                         Nasri                                             Diego                                  
Cole                                                                                                                            Kalou/Malouda

                                                                    Striker


or this team:

                                                                     Cech

Bosingwa                          Carvalho                                         Terry                           Cole

                                                                     Maka

                                         Lamps/Essien                           Ballack/Essien                                  
Ribery/Robinho                                                                                                       Quaresma/Robinho

                                                                    Striker


I know which I prefer. Our wing-play is of mid-table standard. Even Ashley Young is better than all of our wingers.

come on - this story is 2 weeks old. Quit it. Obi was just trying to prove to everyone that he wasn't lying when he said he was forced into the contract.

I can now see that you are very good at distorting the truth because we had 44% possession, not 42% as you claimed. I also highly doubt your claim that we had only 35% in extra time. I would like a link please so I can be rest assured that I am not dreaming.

I also wonder how you know how many football journalists Gazzetta have - or are you just good at plucking figures out of the air. Lawyer by trade, lawyer by nature.

@ 4 Play, your style of arguing is too abrasive. Check yourself.

Ehe - back to the issue:

Check this - http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=705844

and I quote:

"The game was dominated by both sides at different phases, and throughout the second half and extra-time, with Chelsea in the ascendancy after United had controlled the first period with pace and panache, the result remained  in doubt."

4 Play:
What are the facts upon which your opinion is based.Don't tell me other people's opinion. . . what is the basis upon which you claim that Chelsea outplayed Utd on Wednesday night?

You obviously don't respect my opinion so I have given you the experts opinions. Like it or lump it.

As for possession stats, only a fool reads anything into possession stats. As I told you, our possession stats are always low because of our half-pressing game, unless we play a team who plays the same system:

Chelsea (48%)     vs       Wigan (52%)

And that was at Stamford Bridge

http://www.wiganlatics.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MatchReport/0,,10429~38483,00.html


So please keep up your name-calling, I will keep providing you links. Lets see who is talking out their backside.

Infact, I don tire for you. Get thee behind me.

Here we go -  Europe's football writers believe the best team lost.

Link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/05/23/sfnvue123.xml

I offer my congratulations but you will never hear it out of my mouth that you deserved the victory. Congrats anyway.

Listen up . . . . lemme school you on something . . . . Chelsea always have low possession stats whether we play Utd, Everton or Wigan.

We play a half-pressing game, you play a full-pressing game. OK lemme explain since you are so stupid. . . . . . .we only press teams from the halfway line. You press teams starting from the two pitbulls, Rooney and Tevez. Therefore all that possession that you have when Ferdinand and Vidic are passing amongst themselves or when Paul Scholes is dropping deep to recieve the ball - that aint hurting shit. We allow you to have that possession cos that is our style.

The fact is that there were three periods in that game - first half, second half and extra-time. You dominated the first whilst we dominated the other two. Even the ITV commentators were saying it - or were you not listening?

Stop trying to revise history my friend. All my friends called me in the second half and extra-time and they said "you guys are gonna win this game, you have the upper hand."

Even till today, I haven't caught up with any of my spuds, Gunner or Kopite friends who haven't said that we deserved the win. Even Gazzetta Sport is saying it. L'Equipe is also saying it.

I am still waiting for your link to show that Man Utd deserved the game . . . . . . keep Google searching punk cos you can't remember reading it anywhere despite the fact that you have bought every newspaper since the final so you can wallow in your teams victory . . . . . . . . . .

I repeat:

All the 'neutrals' I know said we were the best team so I am not going to argue semantics with you. Let the nuetrals be the judge.

If Gazzetta de la Sport is saying we deserved to win, I take their opinion over yours anyday.

We did not lose, Barca did. So stop arguing out ya backside. Show me one newspaper article that says Utd deserved to win?

end of.

4 Play:
In 120 minutes of football,Chelsea had possession for 42% of the game and they are supposed to be the best team?

42% possession with only 3 shots on target,1 every 40 minutes,now makes Chelsea the best team on Wednesday.

When teams lose on penalties,people try to find a silver lining because its felt that its a cruel way to lose.The reality is that a team that managed only 3 shots on target and conceded possession for most of the game can't be described as the best team on the night

All the 'neutrals' I know said we were the best team so I am not going to argue semantics with you. Let the nuetrals be the judge.

We had possession in the areas that counted. Plus we had 19 shots total in the whole match. Anyway, Europe is saying that the best team lost so whatever you say its all bla bla bla. Teams have different styles of play. Would you say Barca was the best team because they swallowed you whole in the possession stakes? Abeg stop chatting shit.

End of.

You make some good points Nateevs, but you cannot eat your cake and have it. If you want the midfield of Barcelona, then you have to be prepared for the numerous occasions when opposing teams will drive a bus through your midfield and leave your defence exposed.

The first half, we did not play well but why do you keep picking on it? A game is 90 mins long. Our poor play in the first half had to do with the collective manner with which we approached the game. The instructions were to keep it tight for the start of the game as they always are. After that, when we had to take the game to Man Utd, we did.

Unfortunately the players you are looking for to do their dribbling from central midfield are few and far between. How much would Fabregas or Iniesta cost? How many goals would they score as compared to Lamps and Ballack? Of course Lamps and Ballack are geting old. We would be looking to replace them in the next 2-3 years.

Question: How many times did you see Ballack facing up to Ronaldo? Do you think it is natural for Ballack to be marking Ronaldo? On top of that they were having to deal with Scholes and Carrick. O-boy, they put in overtime abeg.

Anyway, I struggle to recall ANY game in which our central midfield was dominated by another central midfield except for our games against Barca in CL. But that is natural for Barca to dominate games. You let them have possession then you hit them on the counter-attack.  SWOOSH!

By the way, did you see Maka dribbling two-to-three players at a time. Gangsta!

Nateevs, Fashi that ting! I will come back to that later. That one na dissertation wey you type.


http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=708915

[center]Mourinho: I Sign For Inter On Monday[/center]

Jose Mourinho has told Michael Essien that he will sign for Inter on Monday according to La Gazzetta Dello Sport.

The former Chelsea coach has been linked with the club ever since current boss, Roberto Mancini, walked out on the club only to make a dramatic You-turn on his decision.

Mancini still hasn't confirmed his position with the Nerazzurri and he may leave in the summer. Meanwhile the Special One is currently free and waiting to pounce and, according to reports, he has claimed that he will sign for Inter on Monday.

Gazzetta claim Mourinho sent Chelsea midifielder Michael Essien a text message after the Moscow Champions League final telling him the news of his new adventure with the Nerazzurri.

The text reads: "Michael, you have all been great players regardless of the loss to Manchester United. On Monday I will sign for Inter and I hope that one day you too will come to Inter."

It seems as if Mourinho will take half of the Chelsea squad with him if he signs, as Inter are also interested in Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba.

Mancini has been linked with moves to Chelsea and Manchester City and if he does leave San Siro then the door would be wide open for Mourinho to walk in.

Inter are desperate to win the Champions League and Moratti would prefer someone who has experience of victory in the competition in the past to take the reins at San Siro.




All I can say is . . . . . . Mourinho need to stop poaching all our players. If he wants them, he has to pay the asking price.

I say sell the movaphoka. You will never get the right attitude out of him. He has already proved his disloyalty. How many times do you have to get your finger burned to know this movaphoka is not with us. He will come again next season and give you only 20 good games.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3604910,00.html

Blues plan Drogba meeting

Drogba: Decision to be made

Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck says the club will sit down with Didier Drogba to see if the striker wants to stay at Stamford Bridge.

Drogba has been tipped to leave the Blues over the summer, with Milan confirming he is on their list of transfer targets.

The Ivory Coast ace was sent off in the UEFA Champions League final against Manchester United in midweek, and Buck admits it was a 'silly' red card for the forward to pick up.

But Buck remains hopeful that Drogba will still be in West London next season and is planning to hold talks with the former Marseille man shortly.

''Didier is a superb player generally," Buck told Chelsea TV. "There have been some comments reported to be made by Didier over the last year that maybe he would like to leave Chelsea. On most occasions he has said that he has been misquoted.

"Now that the season is over, we have to sit down with him and see what the story is and what his future is. He is a great player, I hope he stays, but that is a decision the club and Didier will have to make collectively.

"This year he has had some niggling injuries, but we know he can change the course of a game, as he nearly did in Moscow.

"As I have said, he is a superb player, but if you are a world-class player, which he is, you have to avoid the silly red cards, the ones that come about over nothing - and I think Didier will be sorry that he got that red card."

Following Chelsea's failure to win a trophy this season, there have been widespread reports of a mass exodus from Stamford Bridge over the summer.

Buck expects Avram Grant's squad to be trimmed during the off-season, but he is not predicting wholesale changes of the playing staff.

He added: "We decided several months ago that our squad size is a few players too many. It is about 28 now and it should really be 22 plus three goalkeepers.

"So there is going to be some movement just to get the squad down to the size we think is optimum. In terms of other transfers generally, every year we want to tweak the squad a bit, so there will be some changes, but I don't expect there to be massive, wholesale changes."

This is good news if it is true.

Tottenham will make a straight £15m cash offer for Chelsea striker Nicolas Anelka and £10m for right-winger Shaun Wright-Phillips. (Daily Express)

Andriy Schevchenko looks set for an exit out of Chelsea and is considering playing in America's MLS League, although AC Milan are poised to take him back to the San Siro. (Daily Star)

I no know how ugly girls just take dey fine during summertime. It is one of the modern day mysteries. Abi are all men suffering from heat exhaustion and hallucinations during summer?

No be me o. Nasri is a weakling.

Im sure Arsene Wenger will turn him into a world beater but we no get that kind time.