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Akolawole:
1) How much was Real Madrid bidding for Injured Ballack then?

Why not do Google search, you will find out. Every time you have challenged me to provide link, I have always provided. You have asked for link for many things that a normal Chelsea fan should know, yet I always gave link. Every post, you always want to antagonise but I just dey ignore your talk. Na you wey dey bring Mourinho in. I mentioned that Chelsea fans are singing for Avram Grant, you begin start debate. I talk something, you talk say I dey lie but you no fit prove am.

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=1545

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/09/05/sfnche105.xml

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/sep/09/newsstory.championsleague

http://kof272000./2007/09/13/real-madrid-still-interested-in-ballack-swoop/

somze:
Remove the mole from your eye . . . Baltemar was hired by JM's, Ten Cates was hired by RA. Stop being dull. A manager picks his assistant not the club. Since RA picked Cates then it is clear that he and Grant were JM's replacement. Cates is actually here to work on our movement and formation on the pitch.

No Somze, you don't know that for fact. Who is to say Ten Cates was not hired by Avram? A lot of press speculation at the time said Grant was recommended by Hiddink, others said it was Arnesen that recommended him. Others said Ten Cate wanted him because of his work with Barcelona. You cannot categorically state who signed him because nobody knows.

Akolawole:
And from your link

1)came out in The Sunday Times today to say he never liked Mourinho


2) and fell out with him over the injury wahala and not being included in CL squad.

3)He said Mourinho was trying to force him to leave.

4) Avram came in and made him captain in December and January and he has repaid him with some good performances. Now, you are using him as excuse for us doing well. Abeg comot jare!


That curious episode, when the club submitted to Uefa a squad list excluding Germany’s captain for the group stage of the tournament, seems distant now, but not quite reconciled in Ballack’s mind. “I could have played, but Jose [Mourinho] decided not to put me in,” he maintains. Interpretations then ranged from Chelsea in effect putting Ballack up for sale, to his being disciplined for having taken medical advice elsewhere on his ankle injury.


Liars unlimited

How could Michael played in September?  Why can't Mr Grant played him in september, October and November? Abi, JM was still witch-hunting from home?

Firstly, I was not quoting directly from the Times, just expressing my own deduction from the paper I read in the morning as well as many other articles that have been written on the subject - so to accuse me of barefaced lying as you have done is wholly inappropriate. Secondly the statement "he never liked Mourinho" is an English coloqial expression for "he didn't like Mourinho" - not to say he NEVER liked him. Obviously, he liked him in the beginning otherwise he would not have signed for Chelsea. Just to clear that up before you misconstrue what I am saying.

Now, if you have issue with that, fine - but everything I stated was correct . . .
Mourinho wanted to force him out . . and he was unhappy with Mourinho for leaving him out of Champions League. So where are these lies that you keep harping on about?

It is not like anyting I have said is News. They have been written about extensively in the Press. Although I am sure you will question their validity as you did with the Drogba quotes.

If I tell you that John Terry has asked Abramovic to keep Avram Grant, I am sure you will also say I am lying. Maybe you know better than John Terry whether Avram is competent or not. I was also against Avram but I reserve the right to change my mind. I was also very pro-Mourinho but I reserve the right to change my mind also. I have never criticised Mourinho for his performance pre-2006/2007. I am also starting to change my mind about whether Anelka is suitable for Chelsea or not - just as you guys argued. Like I said, if Avram can take the blame, he can also take the gain. Based on this season's performances, he deserves another full season to prove himself.


As for Ballack and Mourinho . . . . .


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_page_id=1779&in_article_id=564451


He is smiling again, certain of his place in the team and becoming increasingly popular among the supporters in The Shed. Ballack is a special player with a special talent.

Rewind the tape 12 months, though, and it was a different script. He hobbled off the pitch at Newcastle on April 27, 2007, following a tackle by Titus Bramble and then all bets were off.

Named as one of nine 'Untouchables' by that mischief-maker Jose Mourinho, he became exactly that when it emerged that he travelled to Munich for an operation on his injured ankle.

Mourinho wanted him sacked, Ballack produced a piece of chipped bone the size of a nail clipping in a glass jar and Chelsea ultimately had to issue an apology.

That injury forced him to miss the Champions League semi-final against Liverpool and the FA Cup Final against Manchester United, but the ultimate insult was saved for September.

Mourinho left him out of the 25-man squad for the Champions League group stages, claiming his injury prevented him from playing against Rosenborg, Valencia and Schalke. Ballack was hurt but by then Mourinho was hurtling towards the exit.



Anyway, that is not the point. The point is this - the same Ballack that you are using as a scapegoat for Avram Grant's success - if Mourinho had his way, Ballack would not even be at Chelsea because he was ready to sell him. Only that Real Madrid were stalling over the asking price and the wage demands.

Tats:

You mean the minorities were working for 15 hours that day!
The voting was from 7am to 10pm. I voted at 7.20am on my way to work and It took only 4 minutes.

You know negros don't vote. .

nyabinghi:
Mikel Obi has just lost the opportunity of winning 2 EPl trophies had he signed for United he would have had 2 titles now to numerous he was going to have but lost out to greed. He has been grossly manipulated by John Ola Shittu.
Mikel will end up not winning the EPL as long as he remains in chelsea. Chelsea is boring.

Mikel was training with Chelsea in 2004. We also paid for his education as well as Ogbuke, Ezekiel Bala etc. It is nothing to do with greed. He believed he was on loan at Lyn and he wanted to return to Chelsea where he said he felt comfortable.

Congratulations guys. We will see you in CL final for round 2.

somze:
Your logic again is terribly flawed. Look I think you should give up. If you looked at JM's 6 games why not look at Grants first 6 games. Are you ok at all?

If you look at all Grant's games then do the same for JM and stop this bias arguments.

Do you want me to compare Grants record with Jose Mourinho's 83 points of last season or do you want me to go all the way back to 2005?

^^^ I am sure they will celebrate if we lose the CL final because they don't want anyone to eclipse Jose's achievements. I don't know whether they are Chelsea fans or not.

Akolawole:
I tire for this guy.

He always bring on something on JM, Drogba and Lamps. i honestly don't have problem with that BUT LIES.

I have learnt a lot from you guys here but this guy.

What is the essence of Forum then?

I am not Hucarson. He even has more posts than me. Abi, am I the only one with these views on Mourinho?

Akolawole:
Please dispute this league table then.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/TheFootball/LeagueTable/0,,10268~20070915,00.html

I  cannot - you done win. I always equate the end of Jose's era with after the Man Utd game. Hence the points discrepancy. My mistake.

Somze - so you have given up the Mourinho = Grant + Ten Cate debate? Now you want to switch the topic? Anyway, I'm done arguing nonsense. Chelsea fans have moved on. If you like, continue living in the past.

^^^Stop arguing Salient points. For Chelsea, just substitute JM's name and all my assertions are true. I know it wasn't Peter Kenyon disciplining Ballack, it was Mourinho. We all remember the wahala that Mourinho caused when Ballack went to seek medical advice from Germany team doctors. Ballack says he was fit to play (or projected to be fit to play). If you have problem with it, go and ask him.

somze:
1. JM's assistant Clarke IS STILL IN the club, you dullard, so your point is wiped out.
2. Even my babie sister knows Cates and Grant are JM's replacements, arguing about this is beyond reasoning. You go ahead jare,

Man, stop talking nonsense. Mourinho had another assistant, Baltemar Brito. Do your research.

Akolawole:
Which season was JM throwing away? Sharing 11 points with United and behind Arsenal with just 2 points.

Common, do the maths.

No - Man Utd were 2 points ahead and Arsenal were also 2 points ahead with a game in hand. OK - let us do the math:

Mourinho had 11 points from 6 games i.e 1.83 points per game.

Grant has 74 points from 32 game i.e 2.31 points per game

(Mind you I am even counting his first game against Man Utd which should not be accounted against him)

Mourinho's games also included only one game against Liverpool. Grants record includes 5 against Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd.

Akolawole:
## I have told you times without number to STOP LYING. give us the link to your times story. Bloody liar . JM likes Michael. Only an Idiot will include Ballack in the FIRST list to UEFA when we all know he's not going to be available until Knockout stage.

Stop lying: Here is the link - Michael said he WOULD have been available. Bloody idiot!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3909189.ece

somze:
Ibime
Your statements beg for reasoning and relevance.

My point is simple - if we win nothing this season then JM is better than Cates + Grant put together (as those two were brought to replace him).

Firstly, Mourinho also had an assistant so your comments about Mourinho = Grant + Cate are absurd.

Secondly, Grant has saved the season which Mourinho was throwing away so what you say doesn't make sense. The simple fact is that if the season started from Grants first day, then we have won the league so stop talking retarded. Thirdly, if we win the Champions league next wednesday, that would eclipse anything Mourinho ever did for us so save this debate for next wednesday.

somze:
I want a change of technical staff. We had Cates and Grant in place of just JM and what difference has that made?

If we do not win the CL, it's a trophyless season, meaning Cates and Grant are even worse than just JM.

What are you talking about? Abi JM did not have assistants. Go and ask Barca fans what they have won since Ten Cate left. Ronaldinho and Deco said Ten Cate is the best coach they have ever worked with. Please stop all this myopic statements. Seriously Somze, this is the most retarded statement you have ever made. Ten Cate aint got nothing to do with Mourinho. He is just an assistant.

@ Ako,

The same Ballack you are giving as an excuse for our good run came out in The Sunday Times today to say he never liked Mourinho and fell out with him over the injury wahala and not being included in CL squad. He said Mourinho was trying to force him to leave. Avram came in and made him captain in December and January and he has repaid him with some good performances. Now, you are using him as excuse for us doing well. Abeg comot jare!

Akolawole:
Whats the signifance of that?

The significance is that you are now in a minority. The Shed-End is the thermometer of Chelsea. If they accept someone, he is accepted. If they dislike someone, he is finished. It is time to move on.

If Avram could take the pain when things were not going well, then surely he can take the gain when things are going well.

Chelsea fans were singing "We love you Avram, we do" during the lap of honour at the end of the match - and it was the die hard fans in the Shed-End who were singing it - the same fans who booed him all season - and Abramovic was there to witness it.

Bolton equalised - - - - Oh well!

Is Terry going to miss the CL final? I am hearing that he has broken his arm.

How are we playing guys? I am watching the Wigan game. Wigan are really trying. The ref is being a bit dodgy though.

blacksta:
Dear President Yar Adua i don't know what planet you live on or may be you are trying to deny the reality . You say nigerians will lose their position as top producing country. I beg to differ and inform you that a very large proportion of nigerians don't even benefit from any of our natural resources and i can guranatee you that it not make any difference to us if will lose our position as top producing nation it is more of a blessing in disguise it simply equates to less money for your government to steal.

Thank you my brother.

^^^O-boy no dey yarn opata. Belletti is shite. Bosingwa is at least £11m cos many clubs were willing to pay up to £15m for him including Man Utd.


BBC Gossip:

If Chelsea lose out to Man Utd in the race for the title then Blues fans can console themselves that they have beaten their rivals to the signature of Porto right back Jose Bosingwa. The club have agreed a fee of £15.9m for the Portugal international. (Various)

The Stamford Bridge club are also eyeing a £20m move for Bosingwa's club and international team-mate, winger Ricardo Quaresma. (News of the World)

Chelsea are prepared to sell striker Nicolas Anelka, just five months after paying £15m to Bolton for him. (Sunday Mirror)

^^^Well, I'm happy although £15.8 is not cheap. His true value is probably £11m but we are Chelsea so we have to pay extra.

I am happy that our transfer deals are being done in silence these days, unlike before where we would chase players for 2 months and every week the price would increase.

As for Quaresma, I agree that he has lack of respect for his teammates - but like I said, he does not pull that shit when he plays for Portugal, he only does it at Porto. That is his nature and I cannot blame him cos Porto stroll the Portuguese league every season. I believe that with responsibility, you start to see a more mature Quaresma. He has seen his mate Ronaldo do it, why not him? Nani suffers from the same spirit, yet SAF is taking a chance on him. Remember that last summer, Mourinho tried to sign Quaresma. I guess Mourinho also saw what I see in him - a player of great talent, just waiting for the opportunity to confirm his greatness.

joe b:
E.g nobody new henry when he was at juve. But he bought him & made him a world superstar.

Hehehe - o-boy no make me laugh o! Everybody knew Henry. Only ignorant English journalists claim otherwise. Didn't he thrash Newcastle in UEFA Cup in 1997? And he did the same to Man Utd in CL in 1998 when Monaco reached the semi's. Didn't he win World Cup in 1998? Plus he was playing with your brother Ikpeba at the time so you should have definitely known him. £11m in 1999 was not a joke.

debosky:
I disagree about Ben Arfa - the only reason he is being 'benched' is to force him to sign a new deal, its a form of punishment

You don't make a player sign new contract by benching him. Plus Bordeaux are only 2 points behind so that would be a big gamble. He is on the bench for disciplinary problems and poor attitude. The boy is a hothead. As you know, he and Benzema hate each other.

debosky:
Farfan is USELESS in my opinion, will never amount to much outside the eredivisie

He blows hot and cold but is definitely not useless. Sometimes I like him, sometimes I don't - right now, he is in my good books because of his great first leg performance against Fiorentina.

debosky:
Quaresma? Who is going to do this 'coaching' you are talking about? grant?

Fashi that thing. They said the same about Cristiano. I can bet on this guy. You want to bet that he will be a major success at his next club? How much?

dangermous:
Silva ko, Silva ni.

Too European in play jare. Limited athleticism. Nothing to make him standout.

Good point - but the guy touch, passing and understanding of the game is wonderful to watch. I went to Emirates to watch him against InterMilan and I have to say, you have to see this guy in the flesh to truly appreciate him. His vision and touch is amazing. But like you said, he may struggle in the Premiership for lack of physicality.

Don't sleep on Quaresma:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKAgdV0rFlQ&feature=related



Or how about Fabio Coentrao for the future:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm97bA4_aqk

nateevs:
Ben Arfa. .
Bentley. .
Farfan. .
Suleijmani. .

Nah mate . . . . . . . David Silva and Quaresma are on the market this summer. Valencia are DEFINITELY selling Silva. I like Quaresma because he is an auxiliary striker. He is so fast coming from the wing, he closes that space between the wing and striker positions, much like Ronaldo. He definitely needs some coaching to iron out his selfish edges and overindulgence - but I think thats just because he is playing for Porto. He is completely different when playing for Portugal. Silva is an auxiliary playmaker, very wonderful on the ball.

Ben Arfa is being benched by Sydney Govou of all people and Sydney is not even a left winger. I have always felt Ben Arfa is a bit pedestrian and lacks dribbling skills. His only skill is to pass the ball between his feet like Rai used to do for PSG.

Bentley lacks pace, although he has wonderful delivery. He is Tottenham level, not Chelsea. I don't think he is better than Aiden McGeady or Diego Capel.

Farfan is cool as a number three winger and because he is cheap.

Suleijmani is a no-no. Not at all ready for Chelsea. Luis Suarez of Ajax is much better.

Like I said, there are only two wingers on the market who can make any difference to our team - Quaresma and Silva.

lol

Every station on the Port-Harcourt to Lagos railroad sells tickets to every other station on that route. When the railroad added some new stations, 46 additional sets of tickets had to be printed. How many new stations were added to the railroad and how many stations existed previously?

If she would accept, then he should definitely appoint her as running mate so that it can bring the democratic party together.