European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:05pm On Jan 22, 2019*. Modified: 3:42am On Jan 23, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: These guys should all have made 500k to 1m at least over their playing careers
With proper investment, they should be living off the fat of the land.
I know a rugby lad, Yoruba boy, forced to retire aged 24 due to medical conditoons. He started in 2014 and retired last year after playing in the premiership for only one season...and he already has a couple of rental properties to his name.
How can all the sodjes say they didn't make enough to retire on? Efe probably spent his whole career earning in the £1k to £2k bracket. You count am after tax na. Infact his Super Eagles appearance bonuses in a year could exceed what he earned from club football for that year. Those guys are not comfortable abeg. By my estimation, one needs almost £2m invested in rental properties to substitute for wages and live comfortably. Your mate cannot live on 2 rental properties supporting a family without working |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:26am On Jan 22, 2019 |
afrodoc2: Just tells you how many of these footballers waste the money they made in their prime.
So because of £7,500 Efe will now go to jail. The only one of them that possibly made enough money to retire after football was Sam.. Efe seemed to have been quite prudent with his money based on his.living condition. He lived not far from me. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:25pm On Jan 21, 2019 |
Unlimited22: Ashley Cole just signed for Derby County, where he is to be coached by Frank Lampard. Old boys club. Parapo tinz. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:24pm On Jan 21, 2019 |
eph12: Are you a Chelsea or Barca fan? That guy is a Barca fan. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:19pm On Jan 21, 2019 |
Debroslink: Shey you wanna start again? You want me to remind you of the superb own goal by John Terrible when we whipped your ass @ Stamford Bridge in 2006? We played with 10 men |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:12am On Jan 21, 2019 |
Coutinho14: the hatred for Barça on here is off the scale, who knows maybe tomorrow we will discover that puyol was also fraud and wouldn't have survived the almighty epl We have respect for Puyol as long as you don't rate him the absolute best. He achieved things before the Rijkaard and Pep eras. His lack of height is his only minus point. We would never forget how Drogba turned him in 2006 to hammer that goal though  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:49am On Jan 21, 2019 |
homesteady: The DM position in the Barcelona setup over the years is a delicate trap, that's why even almighty Mascherano couldn't bench Busquets. Until Rakitic came and shared the dirty duties with Busquets, he was doing it all alone. Mascherano is amighty to you alone..He was nearly chased out of Liverpool and had been exposed as a limited player there immediately Alonso left him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:46am On Jan 21, 2019 |
popizaino: Sorry to digress a bit .The bolded is now Barca of 2009 to 2012. No it's not Mr.JJC. Milan.was greater, Liverpool 1977-1985 was greater, Real Madrid.1950s was greater |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:34am On Jan 21, 2019 |
@ homesteady, what am I saying sef? I just found out FIFPRO11 started in 2005 and Makelele was in the inaugural FIFPRO11. Bear in mind, he was 32 years old already. Imagine what he would win if FIFPRO was around when he was at Madrid. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:27am On Jan 21, 2019 |
Adisaowalla: The man is comparing Busquets to Kante "Makelele-lino" (little Makelele) not the real Makelele na No, he said Makelele never won award, and Busquets is unrecognised like Makelele. I had to remind him that for most of Makeleles career, you only get WPOTY and Midfielder of the year, not all this FIFPRO11 and numerous beauty pageants that Busquets can't win. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:25am On Jan 21, 2019 |
homesteady: We all know nobody agrees to such list when it doesn't favor them, so let's not go there. Or when next there is an Iniesta vs Lampard debate, I'd bring it up. You surely know Iniesta would take Lampard to the cleaners in that aspect right? Anybody that takes Leicester to league title deserves his award. Do you know Busquets can relegate Leicester? If you are still winning award 2 years after practical retirement like Dani Alves, or as an attacking player like Iniesta with no productive output, we will definitely question it. But if like Busquets, you play for a great team where average players win awards, you garner plenty hype from the press, and you have been present for several victories, yet no one award you, we definitely know that something is wrong. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:14am On Jan 21, 2019 |
homesteady: He didn't do anything, and the trio of Gerrard, Rio and Lampard spent a considerable amount of time talking about his game and praising him? The video was all over the Internet.
How many DMs do you know that would play as a single pivot in a team filled with non-physical players, with defenders keeping a very high line, with attack-minded fullbacks, even with attack-minded defenders, super star players that don't bother with defensive duties? Despite all these, he has led his team to two UCL trophies and led his country to International success.
Makelele was ignored, so it shouldn't be a shocker that Busquets is also ignored. He is good on the ball no doubt, infact I love him on the ball, but don't act like he is a defensive lynchpin. He is severely lacking in defensive aspect. It is easy to be DM in a team where the opponents will be sitting back, and you barely have to do work, yet the few times they attack, you will see Busquets escorting them. Is he not the same player PSG dumped 5 on his head etc? Makelele played in an era before FIFPRO11, UEFA team of the year etc. These days they give out several awards like candy. Makelele would have entered at least 3 FIFPRO11 or UEFA team of the year as the defensive midfielder from 2001 to 2006. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:44am On Jan 21, 2019 |
homesteady: You are not an amateur here, you should know better than bringing such up. He didn't bring nothing up that is false. You mean with all the hype around Barca that make even the worst Barca players make team of the year almost every year, Busquets has never even made FIFPRO 11 or UEFA TOTY? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:29am On Jan 21, 2019 |
homesteady: Issoriat!! If my memory still serves me well, when Barcelona went to Stamford Bridge last year, Busquets reigned Supreme. If not for Messi ending his curse against Chelsea, Busquets would have dominated the headlines, I can even remember your legend Lampard praising Busquets.
France uses like a million defensive midfielders, there is no spinning that you'd do that would make Kante seem so important to France success. The fact that he was subbed out in an all important final is a huge blow to your Kante's campaign. Busquets didn't do nothing. We were scared of Messi, that's why we were sitting back. Willian so flogged Biscuits that Barca immediately started bidding for Willian cos Biscuits was escorting him all over the pitch Which DM do you know that will win League player of the year immediately after placing second the prior year. A DM that will take Leicester of all teams to league title, switch teams and take a 10th place Chelsea to title again, all while taking his national team to international finals. They would ignore all the attacking players in the league and make him the MVP. He must be special. When they are ranking LaLiga POTY, I'm sure Biscuits will take several seats, maybe behind some Celta Vigo attackers sef. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:09am On Jan 21, 2019*. Modified: 12:54am On Jan 21, 2019 |
Excallibur: That time they say Iniesta na carry along, now na busquets, So basically Barca's greatest team ever had been playing with only one man in midfield. Xavi na lord Not every player in an 11 must be great. Good players can also play for great teams. Our job here is to sift the good from great. Barca cannot have the best 11 players in the world in every position. We respect Alves, Xavi and Messi as best in their positions, the others are good players playing with greatness. AC Milan team of 1989 to 1994, often hailed the best club team ever, still has players like Albertini. Who be the Albertini for your team? Busquets can't be the best DM, Pique best CB, Iniesta best AM, Alba best left back etc. Some even elevated Victor Valdes past his station, until Middlesbrough disgraced him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:49pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
homesteady: If my memory is still intact, I can remember Chelsea's new Makelele being subbed out in the final because a decent Croatia midfield used his head to play ludo until he became dizzy. The nigga was totally out of depth.
This was the same thing that happened when France met Spain. A proper midfield is Kante's kryptonite. France met Spain in a friendly, nobody got time to be expending energy in friendly. Last two International tournaments, Kante provided defensive bedrock to take his team all the way to the final. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:23pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: Rudiger then. At least he can also play those passes that Luiz has been feeding our attackers recently, only that most of his, went to the stands. Tah, Rudiger made some good long passes last match. Infact, that's a strength of his. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:22pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
homesteady: Busquets has played against the very best from EPL and he has always come out unscathed. There was one time he met Chelsea's new Makelele, and he destroyed him.
Please give us another story. When Chelsea's new Makelele was winning World Cup, Busquets was getting bundled out by mother Russia. Busquets without Xavi and Alonso has been tanking with Spain last few tournaments. If not for Messi forcing opponents back, we would see Busquets escorting players to goal every week. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:03pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
airmark: What if Hazard, Kante and Luiz get injured before the matchday?  Go sell that burnt dodo elsewhere. Luiz name does not belong with our key players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:01pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
popizaino: Micheal carrick survived the epl playing as a dmf even with his physical fragilities but busquest won’t survive the same epl to the reason best known to them. 
Laughable. Busquets will be brought down to Carrick level from Makelele level if he comes to EPL. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 6:05pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
RIP to all FPL players who thought replacing Kane with Llorente would be a good idea |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:31pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Monaco lost 5-1 to Strasbourg. I hope Fabregas has release clause in his Monaco contract in the event of relegation  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:02pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
nateevs: How can you say "no matter the pressure"? There is just no evidence on earth to back this up and you know it. What you are seeing is a manifestation of many opponent's perception of the futility of such of move.
The truth is Iniesta and Modric play for teams where targeting a player makes defending as a unit potentially dangerous, because there is always another player just as effective. Therefore the whole plan is non-starter. So because you hardly see this done, you assume Modric "no matter the pressure" will not be marked out of a game. No conclusion can be more wrong.
If you put Modric as regista in Sarri's system and then Kante and Barkley alongside him, he becomes infinitely easier to mark out. And this is exactly why it is easier to mark out Jorginho.
Conversely, if Jorginho played in the same role alongside Verrati and Modric in midfield, and Hazard, Salah and Aguero in attack, who becomes the target? Opposition teams will have to approach defending from a different angle, focus less on man-marking an individual and suddenly Jorginho becomes infinitely more effective.
Jorginho is not an average player by any stretch of the imagination. This dude averages 90 passes per game consistently when not man-marked. Easily the player with the most passes in the league (over 150 more than Laporte in second place) and he's not even in the top of 40 for most minutes played. Which means his passes per minute is infinitely off the charts. You don't do that by being average. You don't do that by being lazy either. Jorginho covers an average 12km per 90mins, putting him easily in the top 3 for distance covered in the PL. More than Kante who is known to cover the world (correct as at the last time I followed the stats).
Chelsea's problems are not Jorginho's fault. It is not his fault either that he gets targeted easily. He gets easily targeted primarily because apart from Hazard, the whole Chelsea 11 are not dangerous with the ball. You can blame Sarri's system or blame something else, but less of this Jorginho thing abeg. It's not like he's Bakayoko who loses the ball before it reaches him.
This is why I don't get the overall premise of this argument. Decent alternative viewpoint. What do we do without Salah and Aguero though? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:27pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
Adiwana: Anyways,back to Chelsea. I will say what I said before.Sarri is a 1 dimensional coach that is using lack of strikers as an excuse to cover up his lapses.He plays the same formation Week in Week out.I can easily predict his starting line up,game strategies and formation next week. Are you saying Marcelo Bielsa won't even bother sending spies to Chelsea training ground if he was facing Sarri? |
Pets › Re: Meet Lagos Monkey That Understands Pidgin English And Yoruba by Ibime(m): 2:26pm On Jan 20, 2019 |
This is animal cruelty |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:06am On Jan 20, 2019 |
nateevs: I think Sarri will buy players (wingers and midfielders) eventually, and I think he can make the system work. Don't let Unlimited22 see this oh. More wingers? Is Sarri the new Emenalo? Even the winger Bayern are pinning hopes on, he hasn't had chance to play. We don't need more midfielders either unless one is wedded to the idea of Regista and is simultaneously admitting that Jorginho has failed. Pre-Sarri, we would consider Kante, Kovacic and Ampadu decent depth for the DM positions, and Barkley and RLC for the AM positions. I see nothing but diminishing returns in buying a substitute for Jorginho. How does that improve the 11 on the pitch? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:44pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
nateevs: So why does this continue to happen (since Spurs' game) if Jorginho is actually useless? Why would any manager work one full week at a tactical plan that targets Jorginho if truly, he is useless? Jorginho is the Killswitch for Sarri formation. If teams figure out they can neutralise him with diamond formation, then Sarri needs to tweak things. Sacking Sarri is too hasty and premature but there are some streaks of stubbornness that everyone can see weak points every week, and Sarri will refuse to do anything about it. If playing with a Regista is a must for his system, is starting Alonso every week a must? Is playing without striker a must? These things are building up This is our first loss which I watched live this season, I can imagine the same issues must have been grating on Chelsea fans who watched all of our losses this season. Stubbornness no dey work for EPL oh. Coaches must adapt. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:30pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
I overheard BT Sport panel saying Sarri had a meltdown in interview and threw all the players under the bus, and that the players are likely to turn against him when they hear the interview. Who get the update? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:28pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
Unlimited22: Kepa
Azpi Luiz Rudiger Emerson
Ampadu/Paredes Kante RLC/Kovacic
Husdon-Odoi/Pedro Higuain Hazard.
How's this look, folks? Only within Satri way of thinking. We have the two starting DMs in the World Cup final, Kovacic and Kante. That is a solid pivot. Sarri may need to reformat his brain from playing Regista until he has the attackers to make it work. Strong attackers is what make opponents sit back, giving the Regista space to play. EPL will soon reformat his brain like it did to Pep in the first season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:23pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: you mean someone was mad enough to offer 35m for Hudson....and someone was even madder to say no? 
I've watched this boy live now on 2 occasions. If that nigga worth 35, I'm worth at least 10m. Facts only The nigga was miscontrolling a lot of balls TBH |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:20pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
One thing Chelsea fans can't accept is losing limply to Arsenal. Sarri needs to wake up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:54pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
This is embarrassing. Arsenal done turn us to punching bag. |