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Kasalx: @ I.Chuka,

Advice appreciated.Though the bathing is not in the River, its just normal bathroom bathing which i think will comprise some mixture of thing with the water that will be used for the bathing.

Kasalx: @ I.Chuka,

Advice appreciated.Though the bathing is not in the River, its just normal bathroom bathing which i think will comprise some mixture of thing with the water that will be used for the bathing.

Bobbysworld28: @I.chuka
U obviously read ur bible upside-down. Let me school u:
From d beginning of d chapter d Apostle makes a clear distinction btwn d flesh & d spirit 2 d extent dt he asserts dt if u live according 2 d flesh,u r nt led by d spirit. He later urges 2 put 2 death d transactions of d flesh because sin was condemned in d flesh (meaning their is a propensity to misbehave). So those transactions which d body might want to allow r 2 be put out by d spirit to d extent dt d Spirit can vitalize ur mortal body.
Dis is wht u r constantly urged 2 do until u get d hope of ur calling- d redemption of dis body. This redemption is d new body dt was elaborated on in 1Cor 15.
Son, read d full text & nt use a verse 4 purpose 4 which it isn't intended.
God bless u

Bobbysworld28: @I.chuka
Pls wht is d link between redemption of d body & deliverance. If u don't understand d scripture & u want exegesis, u better ask.
Stop groping in d dark & let d light of God's word flood ur heart

Boomark: title! title! title! That is where the problem is.

Father(meaning): a male parent of a child or an animal; a person who is acting as the father to a child.

The normal text applies to God(the Father) while the bolded is for Christ.

All things are "from" God and all things are "through" Christ, 1Cor 8:6. In revelation and even now, Christ is doing to us what a father does to his children.

Rev 3:12 will help you see that Christ have a Father who he calls his God.

If you have a father, it does not mean you will not become a father some day. Adopt a kid today and he/people will call you PAPA.
You are still not getting it the verse said Eternal/Everlasting Father not something temporary.

Bobbysworld28: @joagbaje
Do u think it's possible for someone 2 b full of d Holy Spirit & hv demons at d same time?
I do not deny dt some christians can allow themselves to be possessed but such ppl r babies & probably r nt aware of their rights in christ.
D Bible says as He is so r we in this world. This means we r like God himself here on earth. Evn d devil couldn't possess u if dis revelation gets into ur spirit.
A proper teaching on d life of christ in u lifts u above base things like deliverance

Boomark: And that One God according to the bible is the Father. Can you prove me wrong? NO.

The word Jesus speaks came from the Father(God) who put His word in his mouth. Anyone who rejects the word/message from Christ rejects the word of God(Father).

Same goes with rejecting/lying against the Holyspirit. It means such one rejects/lie against God(the Father) who sent him. Because everything(prayer etc) is going back to God for approval. That is what happened here: Acts 5:1-4. "OF" means "belonging to," so spirit of God means "spirit belonging to God(Father). Sane thing with "son OF God" etc.

Go and know the meaning of the term "God," then, you will now know why we all, including Christ have ONE GOD. Rev 3:12, 1Cor 8:5-6.

Trinity cannot debunk the above. Infact, this is a summary debunkation of trinity.

enilove: Matt 17:21 Jesus said "Howbeit this kind goeth out not but by fasting and prayers.
The disciple of our Lord Jesus could not cure a mad boy,because the case was a deliverance case.

Deliverance is the state of being delivered or rescued.
Every born again child of God has received deliverance c/o the blood of Jesus to an extent,because christianity is a process.
Some have received total deliverance depending on their foundation.
Some would still need more fasting and prayers if their foundation has been faulty .You can only be righteous when you are born again and the spirit of God is living inside you.Because you are born again does not mean that the holy spirit has taken total control of your life.That is why:
We see some pastors lusting after young girls,married women,some actualy commiting the act.
We have seen pastors dropping their ministry for politics.
We have seen powerless born again christians and pastors, with little or no holy spirit living inside them being molested by witches.
We have seen a born again, who just finished preaching the gospel, fighting the conductor in the bus.

When you are born again you have the licence to enter the kingdom of God and reign with our Lord Jesus christ, if you live a holy life.
Then to be born again does not mean that you will become holy immediately.A smoker and drunker that just got born again will still have to descipline himself to be able to live above sin.It is not authomatic.

Despite that if your foundation is for example Idol worshipper,mascurade worshipper ,and where there are generational curse running in the family, such cases need fasting and prayers .The bible says if the foundation is destroyed,what can the righteous ,who has the holy spirit living inside him,do.
Deliverance is a special fasting and prayer session.
The foundation of an idol worshipper is faulty.Powers of darkness may no longer have power over him again,but if he has swallowed a live serpent b4 he bcame born again,he needs special fasting and prayers to vomit all the evil things he has swallowed.

When you get born again the holy spirit can come in full measure inside you and you will start to speak in tonques ,depending on your foundation and the spirit inside you b4 u became born again.
Some it is years after they have dropped all their bad habits b4 the holy spirit can possese them.

Fingers are not equal.We have to realise that b4 we became born again, we used to have different bad habits and life styles ,that have put some in bondage.Some have demons living inside them that dictates for them.It can tell some to stand up and go to night clubs,by suggestion.Some to commit adultery ,some to start to watch porn, some are anger,it would tell them to fight if not people will say you are a fool.The parents of some ,in the bid to get wealth have gone into convenant with the devil and his agents,which the children would inherit, unless by fasting and prayers and renouncing the convenant.
The parents of some are christians ,so the foundation or the versel of such are clean easily when they get born again they will receive the power of the holy spirit, and can easily drop all their bad habits.Spirit wives or husband just dont go easily when you get born again.You must pray and fast over it.That is dileliverance. Some spirit can be there without your knowledge.

How many christians are born again?
If someone slaps us can we turn the other cheek?
If we found £3,000 on the ground,can we take it to the police station?
Dont we gossip,backbite,keep malice,hate some people,have pride ,hate being corrected?
Do we keep God's commandment 100%.
If not ,then we need deliverance because the spirit behind the sins is still inside us hidden.It might not go except by fasting and prayers

In summary , deliverance can come for some when they get born again.
It can be years after reading your bible,attending church services and listening to the sermons.
It can be by special fasting and prayers and renouncing evil covenants and quoting the word of God.
It is when we are completely delivered from the above, that the scripture will be applicable.It is not every born again christian that has been delivered from the power of darkness,but have started the process of the being delivered.If the above sins are there, we have not
been translated into the kingdom of the Lord Jesus.
If we have been translated , we will speak in tongues, hear from God,see visions, heal the sick ,cast out demons ,lay hands on the sick and they shall recovered.
Many of us are born again but not completely delivered from sins,as long as the sins are there the power of dakness has control over he person, thereby hindering the holy spirit.

For some of these spirits to go,we need some fasting and prayers and then, in the name of the deliverance master Jesus ,the spirits will bow.

Enigma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDkuxEIcpdI

enilove: Ijawkid -This you assumption can lead people away from Christianity.It can make people to think that there is no God .You following the doctrine of the devil and you have to be very very careful,so that on the day of judgement Jesus will not tell you that you are on your own.
You tend to abandon written and direct word of God and you are following what some Pastors have told you in the past.
God is a spirit and the angels are spirit beings,the devil is a spirit too.By spirit does not mean they do not have physical bodies.Their physical bodies are heavenly bodies.Every human beign is a spirit inside earthly body.
The fact that God is a spirit does not mean that He does not have a throne.If you belief Jesus Christ word in Rev.1:8 ,why cant you believe what he said about his throne and also that he has God,also that his God has throne .There too many countless number of places where Jesus and apostles tells of Father in heaven.You have also read that God gave Jesus christ name that is above all name.
We have explained also to you that God,Almighty,Alpha,Omega,Lord etc are titles.
When Jesus christ in Rev 1:11 said he is the Alpha and Omega,John turned to look at who was talking and said in verse 13 that the one looks like the SON OF MAN. Matt 11:19,12:8 etc Jesus called himself son man man.God the father of Jesus never came in the human flesh and can never be called son of man as John refers here.
The same Jesus said in chapter 3 verse 14 that he is the bigining of the creation of God,and verse 11 Jesus also said "the temple of my "verse 12 also, Jesus said "I will write upon him the name of my God. Jesus is telling that ,despite his title Alpha and Omega ,he has God the father and that Jesus is the first of Gods creation.This you can also see in proverb 8:22 which reads"The lord possessed me in the biginning of his way,before his works of old.23, "I was set up from everlasting ,from the biginning or ever the earth was.

What does it mean to possess ( verse 22), it means to controll,to influence,to have something,to have and hold as property,to seize and take control of.
Jesus said as above he belongs to God Almighty.If you read futher you will see it written.
Rev 1:verse 18 where Jesus called himself "the first and the last ,he said AM HE THAT LIVETH,AND WAS DEAD,AND BEHOLD AM,I AM ALIVE FOR EVERMORE.
Note the word "was dead".God the father did not die at any time ,only Jesus christ died for our sins. For God so love the world that He gave His........,John 3:16.
It is not written "that he gave himself".
Rev Chapter 4:2 "And immediately I was in d spirit:and behold ,a throne was set in heaven,and one sat on the throne(but you said God does not have a throne) verse 4 reads "And round about d throne were four and twenty seats :and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting ,clothed in white raiment.............in verse 8 it reads Holy holy holy Lord God Almighty ,which was ,and is,and is to come(not that was dead).
Then in Chapter 5 :1 And I saw in the rught hand of him that sat on the throne a book : written within.............in Verse 5 says " weep not :behold ,the lion of the tribe of Judah the root of David ,hath prevailed to open the book.
Jesus is from the root of David .The blind barthemeus cried " Jesus son of David help me".
Because he came and died for us because of our sins :Jesus has 3 stages in his life
1-when God first created him even b4 God created anything else.
2-When Adam and eve sinned and God, out, of His love for us ,Jesus was sent down to come and die for our sin.( not God the Father )
3- Now in heaven to live for evermore.
These 3 stages are with biblical references which have been given earlier.
Instead of God the father to come down and die for us He would instead destroy mankind and start with newly created set of people.But that would mean that God failed and satan would have achieved his aim.
There is no reconcilliation for the angels and the devil.God chose to forgive us the sins Adam and Eve commited because they were deceived.But God did not make a way of reconcilliation for the angels because they chose to sin willingly.So the devil and the falling angels who are now demons would do everything to take as many people as willingly decide to follow other religion other than acceoting the Lord Jesus Christ and repent.
God wanted ti destroy the world before.He also wanted to destroy the Israelites before.And has said there is a set day for the end of the world.
God the father can never die ,so please stop this satanic message ,read your bible and stop this your satanic theory .Jesus christ told us he has a father,so believe him.
Some people are going to hell by accepting that God does not exist and some have been directed by satan in a wrong direction or religion,worshipping idol in a house thinking they are serving God.
we will give account of whatever thing we write,say or behave that leads others astray.

Stay blessed.

truthislight: ^^

this is one of the most st.upid things i have ever heard on NL.

Smh

ijawkid: Ichuka sincerely speaking this is what you guys have turned GOD into........you guys have turned .God to be like the noob saibot of mortal kombat......

plappville: To see that Yahweh and Jesus are like this in the below picture?

truthislight: Na wao!

Someone said that Jesus is the power of Yahweh and without Jesus Yahweh cannot do anything! Wao. Is it insanity?

ok, why was Yahweh able to resurrect Jesus when he died and was in the Grave?

Jesus committed his spirit to his father that cannot do anything!

Is it a mental problem that caused someone to make that statement?

It is really a pity for the person that said that.

Trinity is a curse to christianity.

Yooguyz: dude seems like you are doing overtime job *grabs coke and hambarger eating and watching quietly*

ijawkid: I don't believe in the trinity.........all I am saying is that Jesus is the first born of GODS creation....he is part of the family of creation but the first....can't you get the point??.................its glaring...........Yahweh created or formed Jesus then Jesus became an agent through which God created other things.............those scriptures especially colossians 1:15-16 and proverbs 8:22-30 butresses these points..............

enilove: As christians there are somethings we need to undetstand so that the unbelievers will not continue in their idol worshipping ,because of our own lack of understanding of the bible and refusal to read it and allow the spirit of God to minister unto us.Jesus said we are the light of the world.meaning we are to show others the way.
In the book of Proverb chapter 8:23-36 reads
"I was set up from evarlasting ,from biginning,or ever the earth was.When there were no depths,when there were no fountains abounding with water.Before the mountains were settled,b4 the hills was I brought forth:While as yet he had not made the earth,nor the highest part of the dust of the world.When he prepared the heavens,I was there :when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:when he established the clouds above :when he strenghened the fountains of the deep:................verse 30 "Then I was by him,as one brought up with him:and I was daily his delight,rejoicing always b4 him:verse 34 -35 says " for whoso findeth me findeth life,but he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul and they all that hate me love death.
From the above scripture you can bring out words like I WAS BROUGHT FORTH ,I WAS SET UP when God the father was creating the universe.
Jesus Christ is different from God Almighty .
The words Almighty God is a title not a name .
God is a title as you can see where God told the Israelites"thou shall worship no other gods beside me"
Almighty on the other hand means .... having relatively unlimited power.
In Philipians 2:6 It tells us that Jesus christ has the form of God.A two year old lion is a lion,because its form is that of a lion.
Jesus Christ is God ,but remember that God is title ,that was why God Almighty gave His name to Moses.He did not say "My name is God"Jesus Christ too has a name,his was not named God. You can see that the name God gave to Moses is different from Jesus's name.
They are two different parsonalities but united in purpose or oneness in purpose ,principles and everyother thing.
A man and his wife are one.but two people if you remove marriage.
Jesus christ said I and my father are one.When he was baptised the voice came from heaven saying "this is my beloved son in whom am well pleased"
Jesus christ kept saying "my father in heaven".when he was crucified he told the thief on his right hand that he would be with his father in heaven.More than 50 times in the bible the Lord Jesus Christ said MY FATHER.
Before raising up Lazarus from the dead , he prayed to his father in heaven.You can not tell me that he was praying to himself .

Philipians2:9 says "God has highly exalted Jesus Christ and given him a name that is above all names"
This means God the father is existing and different from Jesus His son.
Gen.41:44 Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh,without thee shall no man lift up his hands or foot in the land of Egypt.verse 55 says when there was famine in the land the people cried to Pharoah for bread,which Pharaoh gave unto them by telling them to go and meet Joseph.Likewise we ask God for all thing through our Lord Jesus Christ.

You are correct in saying that the book of revelation called Jesus Almighty God and also the Alpha and the Omega. Infact it was Jesus christ himself that gave that testimony ,and we know Jesus can not lie or does not lie.Jesus is actually Alpha and Omega.But that is a title.And Jesus did not say I am the only Alpha and Omega.Joseph was given all the power in Egypt but not above Pharaoh.
When you read further that book of revelation chpter1:18 Jesus christ says "I am he that liveth and was dead and behold ,I am alive for evermore.
From here Jesus Christ gave messages to John for the 7 churches from Chapter 1to chapter 3 .In chapter 3:12 Jesus said he that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and will write upon him the name of my God.This means Jesus has a God.verse 14 Jesus Christ says that he is the beginning of the creation of God.Likewise revelation 3:21 Jesus testifies that "I am set down with my father on the throne.
The above was the complete or conclusion of message given by Jesus to John.Confirming that God is on the throne.

Joseph was ruling the people of Egypt but not ruling Pharaoh that gave him the authority and one of his chariots to ride on. He also said every Egyptian must bow their knee to Joseph.Likewise in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ every knee must bow.But not the knee of his Father Almighty God.
It is written for God so love the world that he gave His only begotten son ,that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but ,but have everlasting life.This is in that proverb also and in Revelation 5:1-9.showing why the lord Jesus christ came ,when he took the book from the hand of Almighty God.

When you quote the bible in a middle way you may not fully understand it until you read it to the end and allow the spirit of God to minister to you.

The children of the bond woman who are being lead by the devil in perpetrating evil arround the world now, may continue if we do not read our bible and pray for them.When we are ask one or two questions and you do not know or give you own opinion as the answer because you did not read the bible for understanding.How would they be convinced .

The devil is not foolish ,he will set up augument among brothers so as to have his way.His doing so now succesfully among christians.
Some find it hard to believe that God have a son,because they are trying to bring God to their level , thinking there must be a wife b4 one can have a child.
How much more to say he is still the Almighty God the father by virtue or trait of mere title and neglecting all the written fact and given meaning to something you did not fully understand.
In the biginning was the word ,and the word was with God,and the word was God. The word was with God, means, two personalities with the title God.
The same was in the biginning with God.Confirming proverb 8:23 to the end.

Please let me know where am wrong with bible references.

Thank you and Stay blessed.

Yooguyz: the facility we are using is rented, holding to services would mean more cost

Yooguyz: Please anyone with an idea of any hall that can seat 1000 people i need it before Sunday particularly around Surulere and its environs. I should have planned for it earlier but i never anticipated how church would expand by 500 in space of two weeks. Any info please?

Boomark: but the fullness of Godhead dwelt in him bodily. So how come he emptied everything in heaven?

Boomark: I don't understand you guys. Are you saying that now in heaven there is one person who is God and he is Jesus Christ or 2 persons who is the same person?

ijawkid: but you said he was still alimighty GOD in flesh.....CONTRADICTION................meaning he did not leave any divinity before descending......keep contradicting the hell out of yourselves....the bible has made it plain that GOD sent his servant,but NO i-chuka says GOD did not send his servant,but rather GOD sent himself....................GOD was seen,felt,killed,buried etc............keep deluding yourself

plappville: Ok, so when Jesus/God was three days and three nights in the heart of the earth are you now saying there was no God for this period and Satan kept silent?

Wouldn't this be the best oppotunity for Satan to have taken over Gods empty throne as His initial plan?

frosbel: wrong.

If they are the same person, kindly answer the following questions :

1. Did GOD die on the cross
2. Can GOD be tempted ? If no, why was Jesus tempted
3. Why did JESUS say the Father is greater than I
4. When Jesus was on earth, who was ruling the universe

many more questions, but these should do for now !

plappville: Are you a christian? or should i say, do you believe in Christ? I can(t understand why you say this?

Didnt Jesus made it plain? when one is greater than the other doesn't that make two thing?