Philadelphia: In other news, some people are of the opinion that men drive benz while boys drive japs...
This is a benz group and it should mean the members or contributors here drive benz and should be men... Now I'm wondering what it means to be a man if benz truly is for men.
I just came in from the Nissan/Infiniti thread and I saw useful questions and responses. Now coming to a Benz thread all I see are insults.
This thread used to be very informative in the years past. What went wrong?
Philosopher1979: Obiora nwankwo starts for boavista against benfica match starts at 9 15 Mikel agu is playing right now for vitoria guimares Nigerian players in portuguese league
Hmm....Obiora Nwankwo. Another talented player that didn't meet expectations.
TheSuperNerd: Francis Uzoho is finding his way back quickly to fitness. He has been working hard with the trainer Rohr sent to work alongside him and he has this to say with respect to Enyeama's records for the team.
Boy you really have to work very hard to up your game to even equal Enyeama's national team and club records o. That man was super gooood
ChrisKels: You are funny, you would have called Osimhen a hype if he hadn't lived up to it. Nerdy did the same thing he is doing with every other up and coming kid with Osimhen, thing is the Osimhen lived up to the hype. I remember Icon4s warning us back then to tone down with the hype, that youth football is what it is, you probably weren't here with us then. And i will never forget Icon's statement after we lost to SA in Uyo, he was like "...lost all hope when I saw una osimhen warming up on the sidelines"
You are losing 2:0 to SA and Rohr had just one more substitution to make and that was Osimhen of 2017. Was that not game over?
But in modern current times at 17/18 you should be Knocking in the door of first team football and if exceptional playing regularly.
At 19/20 most quality players are becoming first team regulars in thier respective football clubs and leagues.
So if at 21/22 we are using the national U23 team to establish ability and potential as well as the bridge for admittance to the senior team SE, then that approach is flawed.
It's what you do in your Club and league consistently that presents the justification for invitation and then selection if you perform.
So are you telling me there are no 22 and 23 years olds that are still trying to knock on the doors of the 3 Lions?
How old were Omeruo, Musa, Iwobi, Ndidi, Iheanacho, Success, Chukwueze, Awaziem, Osimhen and the like when they got their debutes? All at teenage. So don't tell me "in the context of Nigeria". We have had exceptional teens that broke into the senior Team.
There are still some 21-23 years old Nigerian players that are still trying to break into the SE. And the Olympics could have been an opportunity for them to prove that abilities. That is my point.
Not all players blossom from teenage just like some players fizzle out after their teen age. Some start finding their footings from age 21 and beyond.
The U23 has always been a feeder team to the Super Eagles and it will always be.
TheSuperNerd: FIFA has raised the age limit to 24 due to the rescheduling to July 2021. Players born on or after January 1st 1997 are still eligible even if they will be 24 by 2021.
Ok, Son.
Thanks for this info. I was actually wondering.
I really wish we were able to qualify. We have so many players who are U23/24 that would have used that platform to showcase their abilities.
But come to think of it; since the Olympics has been shifted to next year what becomes of players who are already 23 this year? Will the IOC adjust it to U24 or still keep it as U23 thereby eliminating players that are already 23 this year.
What do you expect from a then Warri Wolves player whose team will travel by road from Warri to Maiduguri to go play El-Kanemi warriors. And then coming off straight from the bus to the pitch And entering back the bus to Ibadan to go play Shooting stars before going back home to Warri
The trip to Rio by plane no better pass the road trip to Maiduguri or Ibadan? Wetin be jeg-lag to Etebor by that time
But jokes aside Etebor was a major revelation at that Rio Olympic. Also Troost-Ekong and Shehu. That's why missing the next Olympic would be a major loss to Nigeria.
Danielnino00: I remember Chriskels once hyped Collins when he was in the Budensliga2 ..
But after we saw him play for the SE, baba changed directions
There were so many players that were hyped before getting the SE call up. Only for them to disappoint. I no wan mention names of those players, today is Friday
zoboizee: Dude is better than Collins by far offensively. He is faster & always pick out his man with decisive crosses. Though i will still pick Collins ahead of him because his primary duty is to defend. Collins trump him in that department.
Bros you cannot do this kind of comparison yet. Let him make his debute first then you can start up a fair comparison.
ChrisKels: I remember that first pic back from 2017. I think he arrived Portugal in 2016 with another youngster, Nonso Collins for a trial with Gil Vicente, but he was knocked down by a strange ankle injury.
ChrisKels: My man, talk true, for that jeun-jeun football, na for goal post dem dey put u dat time abi?
Growing up, doz wey fat and doz wey no sabi tap leather, we dey automatically assign them to the goalpost to serve as our goalkeepers while we the real Gees slog it out inside field
Ah
No oo. The kind Jeun-Jeun football wey we play, we had clubs and we contributed Money for tournaments and then there were trophies.
We played regular 11 against 11. Even with Jerseys. It was usually "a Winner take all" competition. And sometimes it went violent when there was poor officiating.
They were teen clubs mostly for Children between 12 & 17.
Some of the players then will progress to the Senior teams that played the Mock nations cup.
A lot of Nigerian professional coaches used to attend the Ajegunle Mock nations cup then. I only played in one for my Team Madagascar when I was 15 (I was kind of big relative to most other AJ kids then). Some Golden Eaglets players of yester years were picked from that Tournament.
Then you had to chose between your academics and football because you could hardly combine both because of the number of hours you may have to spend on the field weekly. I went for my academics and rather preferred to watch other boys play when I had the freedom to. Thank God today we have football academies. Nothing of such then. Na mostly NFAs (No Future Ambition) dey take ball serious then.
TheSuperNerd: For today, Everton was up against the league leaders. Iwobi had more to do defensively than offensively when you consider the high quality of the opposition today. He made 1 tackle, 2 interceptions, and 2 clearances. We hardly saw him on the offensive today and that explains why he didn't do above average. Also, maybe he would have had a goal if Richarlison had not played selfish.
Let me just show you a graphical example of what Iwobi brings to the Eagles. A key player to our fast phases of play in attack in the final third. It is true he needs competition but he is also doing good in the GWG.
Below is an Iwobi Activity/pass map vs Ukraine
Courtesy of Solace Chukwu's Supersub.
Key:
Arrows
Blue: passes received Green: passes completed Red: unsuccessful passes Black: shot(s) on target Pink: shot(s) off target
Some people haven't taken the time to really understand what Iwobi brings hence they keep underrating the lad and calling him hyped. Even Arsenal fans know better now. Iwobi is really underrated in here.
Iwobi has always been a big game player, even right from his Arsenal days.
TheSuperNerd: Arsenal: Bukayo Saka is now the biggest contract problem by Andrew Dowdeswell
Bukayo Saka was Arsenal’s best player in Saturday’s 2-1 defeat to Brighton. With a year remaining on his current deal, the 18-year-old now poses the biggest contract problem to the club.
Arsenal have lots of crucial decisions to make this summer. Mikel Arteta is entering his first summer transfer window at the helm and, following Unai Emery’s disastrous 18-month tenure, he has lots of loose ends to tie up.
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is the most prominent problem. The 31-year-old has a year left on his contract, looks increasingly disinterested at the club, but is the top goalscorer, captain, and Arteta is keen to keep him. There is no perfect solution to his future.
There are others, too. Dani Ceballos will return to Real Madrid on loan, David Luiz may have already played his last game for the club, Shkodran Mustafi and Sokratis both have contracts that expire next summer, while Mesut Ozil and Henrikh Mkhitaryan present huge drains on the wage bill, so much so that the club has repeatedly tried and failed to offload them.
But for all of these issues, and all of them will need to be solved this summer, the biggest contractual conundrum that Arsenal must somehow find an answer to relates to young Bukayo Saka, who is quickly establishing himself as one of the brightest young talents in the Premier League.
The 18-year-old has been superb in his first season with the senior squad, especially since Arteta arrived. Initially at left-back and now in midfield, either on the wing or an inverted central midfield role that allows him to drift towards the left flank, Saka continues to prove that he is capable of producing on the senior stage. He was the best player on the pitch in Saturday’s 2-1 defeat to Brighton.
However, like with almost anything vaguely positive for Arsenal at present, this is a catch. And with Saka, it is a rather large and looming one. The teenager has stalled discussions regarding a new contract and could leave on a free next summer if he continues to reject the Gunners’ advances.
Arteta is keen to keep Saka, as he has said publicly, and Arsenal do not need reminding what can happen when you lose high-quality young players on the cheap. Serge Gnabry, Donyell Malen, Jeff Reine-Adelaide and Ismael Bennacer have all flourished since leaving the Emirates on the cheap or for free. Saka cannot be added to that list.
How the club can solve the Saka problem is difficult to determine. If he refuses to sign a new deal, as Gnabry did in 2016, the club may have to sell in the hope that they can recoup a high transfer fee before losing him for nothing. And in the current climate, any fee they get will not be what he might be worth in three, four or eight years time.
Keeping Saka is of the utmost importance. Arteta knows this. Arsenal know this. And yet, there might be nothing that they can do about it. This is now the biggest contract problem to solve.
Joebie: But Alampasu was calmly warming up and about to come on the pitch. He showed glimpses of his old self with his sharp reflexes on the sidelines. I can't wait to see him get his cameo..