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Amberon:
I also do not expect you to comprehend how God made the air you breathe.

That is the mind of a 5 year old dude. You have no idea that God is you? Youn need to grow up

Amberon:
says someone who believes he created Jupiter.

I do not expect you to understand that mind leads to matter

Really?

Trudax:
Dude, you are wasting your time. These people's brains don't possess the capacity to think rationally and critically.

Jesus is in the same category of enlightened people like Confucious and Buddha. But his history has been inaccurately rewritten for political and selfish reasons. Anyone with even minute historical knowledge and a functioning brain would realize this.

Most times I try to stay away from this section because the kind of responses I see here just makes me weep for the intellectual failure of my own people.

You are absolutely right MR

Amberon:
Pls tell us how you created Jupiter, sire?

Believing is seeing. Jupiter is part of the belief system I grew up with, it is part of a conscious creation. Therefore if I belief Jupiter exist, I have created it.

Amberon:
Jesus did not die for us to be "mentally enhanced", he died to give us salvation.

Jesus did not die for anyone. Your level of thought is kindergarten to still believe that.

It doesn't matter if Jesus were white or brown, what matters is understanding the teaching linked to him/ her.....for you to be mentally enhanced and stop being a foot-stool to ignorance.

I will go with 1. However,I KNOW this God is me...... I create everything I see with my thoughts.

4C2215131:
In my opinion, one cannot experience OBE and it's attendant corollaries and still be an atheist. An agnostic maybe, but, an atheist...kinda hard to imagine considering what one experiences in a consciously induced OBE...the entities, the places etc...no, there is something/someone supernatural definitely at play here.

I don't have a label. Calling myself Atheist or Agnostic is me putting myself in a box that doesn't define me. I am experiencing this version of life right now, just as other versions of me are experiencing another. Depending on how advance my mind is I may have access to other dimensions due uncommon DNA strands of mine being activated.

Experiencing OBE is no big deal when we look at the abilities of other life forms on our planet. The Dog has better sense of smell and sound, The Eagle have a longer range of sight and it is possible that these animals see what we humans don't see with our eyes. It is all about developing/ activating abilities that are already present in us.

Beliefs change with time and I am not affiliated to any. Certain beliefs like Atheism will give you a mental block agains certain ideas. Atheism is close minded to the possibilities of Man being a God. Such mindset is dangerous and not 100% good for gaining knowledge, because they are close minded to other possibilities. Most Atheist believe only science and technology can solve things in a world were we only use a few percentage of mind abilities.

The Akashic record is the tapping into the Subconscious mind. This is what religion calls the mind of God. This is the mind that is greater than the best computer in the world and this mind is in us all. It is possible for a person who can channel this mind( an acient ability that we are losing like the speed of light) know things that are unknown to the normal human......like Edger Casey

I choose to be nothing... I'm simply an observer with no affiliation to any beliefs.

levisco16:
do you believe in the bible?

The bible stories were mostly Sumerian origin. The stories like Job's had nothing to do with Israel. The story of Jacob's ladder is a metaphor for the Eye of Orisus, the third eyes opening. The wrestle between the ego mind and the sub conscious mind, the sub conscious won and lead to the kingdom of God( the activation of the third eye). Or the creation of the world in 6 days( the body chakras), or the story of Jesus which is also mostly metaphors.....I could go on and on.

I know these stories as metaphors, not real life stories.

levisco16:
thats not suprising to hear, you know why the bible says we are gods of our own created by a God who is the father of all creation.

we are created in his image and after his likeness

What was meant by that passage is that You are a reflection of you trueself. You true self has created this illusion you are experiencing. You and I are one in the real sense. Both of us are like two different channels being experienced by the observer(who is you and I). God is you and God is me. One particle spinning in infinite speed; thus make it seem like many

Those verse in the bible are ways to explain advance physics to illiterates.

AlvanT:
There are obviously other dieties and ancestors willing to help,teach and guide us that's an undeniable fact Sir.

You are right, also these are beliefs we created to help us,or serve us as reminders to guide us. It is possible to ignore the deitie and gods and embrace Science. Belief in science comes from conviction that it will also work for us. My personal thing is, do what ever works for you. Nothing is right or wrong. The main purpose of life is to experience it in different ways. I was having a discussion about mermaids possibly being real. What I meant is that it is real to some people and not real to others. Reason, they both live in different worlds and they are both right.

HZwriters:
please how do one make a parallel shift with the mind? thank you.

Follow your excitements with no insistence on the outcome and you will experience a shift

annunaki2:
Interesting perspective, you still haven't admitted that you are no longer atheist.

I am more than an Atheist..... I don't limit myself to that. I have different and expansive view to life. I don't think I have a label

the small god is the creation of men who think they are inferior, men who think there is someone greater than themselves, the indictrinated minds.....Actually there is none of that. The bible god for intance....

annunaki2:
Define God, then define god. What's the difference?

God is one Conscious Energy experiencing itself as creation. God is the particle looking in the mirror, sees its reflection as everything imaginable....... God is the mountains, you, me, ocean.....all these stuff are projections from the mind of God. So basically God is experiencing the me you know as Ife, through my body.... When my illusionary self cease to exist, I wake as God. So I am God, so are you. We are the same but different reflections.

annunaki2:
At least you believe there is a god so you can't possibly be atheist.

I am God....... Not a god. I know myself, I am you too, I am everyone and everywhere.

levisco16:
what is quantum jump? like electrons in physics or what?

We live in billions of parallel Universes, whereby you are already everything you can possibly be. You are experiencing one out of billions you exist on right now. The past and future exist simultaneously...... Therefore you live in the " Now". Meaning there is a version of you who is born in the US,another one is a rich man, another very poor etc. There are similar realities tha are closely related to what you are now, like another version of the present you is wearing a pink shirt and another where a native attire. Etc. It goes on and on to infinity

Making a quantum jump is you shifting from one reality to another. Let's say a version of you is very ill, you can make a parallel shift with your mind by switching roles and becoming the you who is healthy. This is what the ancient masters of wisdom call "Miracles". The you of today is not the you of tomorrow. In fact,the you of now is not the you of 10 sec after. You are shifting and your belief and mind power determine where you shift to

Although we are all shifting all the time, our negative or positive thoughts determine where we shift to. Basically a quantum jump all the time.

There are other ones people experience where by they get caught up between two dimensional realities, a case where a person lives / consciously sees him/herself living in two worlds at the same time. In one reality they know you as Paul and the next one they know you as John. When the two clash, the science world is yet to understand what is happening. Instead they label them as crazy/bi- polar etc

annunaki2:
There are lots of crazy people on nairaland already what I think of you doesn't matter so just tell us.

I am God

omohayek:
So "maturity" in your book is making irrational demands, then ignoring the response you get even when people take the time to accede to your demands, simply because you don't understand what they've written?


Trash. I've already explained the difference between science and religion, but again all that effort seems to have been wasted on you.


More trash that only shows you don't understand how science works, and you haven't even bothered to process the explanation I gave you earlier in the thread.

I haven't even said anything about my own findings....but I must make sure you are capable of having your own mind first. You need to learn more mr.

You are a living, breathing example of the Dunning-Kruger principle if ever there was one. You can't comprehend any of the things I've written here, yet think yourself in a position to show that I'm "not as intelligent" as I think? It takes a certain level of intelligence to appreciate how absurd this is, a level which is clearly far, far above what you possess.

Another absurd statement from someone who knows nothing at all. How else is knowledge built up if not by learning from others? I'm certain you've never heard of the following statement:

"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."

They were uttered by a certain obscure gentleman called Isaac Newton, but hey, what did he know?

As I said, by all means, go ahead and stick to the "wisdom" from your babalawos, Yemoja priestesses and mermaids; but while you're at it, why don't you stick to your principles by giving up scientist-created internet and mobile phone, and switch to using babalawo-provided "spiritual" tech for your communications on here?

Any quotes from your ancestors, non? Mr science

Don't act like you are explaining things to me, you ain't. You are simply coping and pasting other people's ideas to me. I asked what your own findings are ,you arecalling me names instead.

annunaki2:
Evidently you are not an atheist from this statement. You are either deist or agnostic.

If I told you what I am you will think I'm crazy

The only place one could get lost is if you do a quantum jump and don't know how to go back. It's not a bad thing but obviously a sudden change of reality could be misinterpreted as mental health problem. Many people suffer from it already.

omohayek:
I did give you my own words, but clearly you lack the courage to admit you didn't understand them. And yet again you spout nonsense about how stuff should be "easy", as if the universe owed you such a thing.

Stop wasting my time and stick to peddling your "mammy water" fables.

Why lose your temper over a little discusion? That's not maturity. You are annoyed I'm not accepting your theory, just like religion.

I never said mammy water exist, I'm saying why can't they ? But you rely so much on science without your personal evidence.... Just like religion.

I'm trying to let you know you are not as intelligent as you think. You base your knowledge on the theory of others.

annunaki2:
Are you still atheist?

In terms of a deity god, I am. Being non religious doesn't stop one from talking about Energy and its various forms.

Many people go through this and are scared to talk about it for fear of being called demons

omohayek:
What, are you too lazy to read the link I went to all that trouble to provide? Or is that you think my ability or inability to compress the whole article into a few words for your benefit will say anything meaningful about the truth of the article in question? You might as well say quantum mechanics isn't true unless I can explain it in 30 characters or less!

Sorry, my friend, but there are some things in life that can't really be boiled down to just a few words, and actually require time and effort to understand. The Wikipedia article I linked to is already a heavily summarized version of the full theory, and the only way to make it much shorter would be to use terms which I'm certain you wouldn't understand anyway:

"in the beginning all of the observable universe was compressed into a space 10^36 times smaller than it now is, but the end of the grand-unification epoch, at which point the strong force separated from the electroweak force, the inflaton scalar field began exponential expansion, magnifying the random quantum fluctuations which would give rise to the first galaxies in the stelliferous era. The evidence of this early inflation is still visible in the cosmic microwave background radiation, and the statistical distribution of the earliest visible galaxies matches the predictions of the inflationary theory."

There, did you find that enlightening, or are you now ready to sit down and patiently work through the full article I linked to earlier?

I said in your own words, I don't need something written by others. That should be easy. You trust the works of others, what about your own research ? How do you know science is right ? I'm curious

levisco16:
but you a nigerian?

Yes I am.

levisco16:
am going to do it, are you in nigeria?

No, UK

omohayek:
So you have to have seen something with your eyes to know it existed? What do you think archaeologists and evolutionary biologists study, if not things which existed before humans existed? The fact is that we know a tremendous amount of what sorts of creatures lived before humans arrived, and we are learning more all the time.


This only goes to show how little science you know. Current scientific theories can explain how physical reality came about on timescales your babalawos have never even dreamed about (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_(cosmology)), and further into the future than any babalawo could even dare to imagine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe).



Again, if you understood any science, you would know that it is actually the opposite of religion. Where religion insists you simply believe what people have told you despite a lack of evidence, science insists that you put every claim to the test, that you do these tests multiple times, and that the tests should be independently carried out by multiple people. Science never requires you to accept anything on trust.

It's clear that nothing will get in the way of your believing your "mammy water" fairy tales, so I'll just leave you to it.

In your own words, without posting links, how did the physical reality come to be ?

levisco16:
thanks friend that numb is what is called "sleep paralysis" but it happened to me alot sometime ago i think last year and this year but never knew that i was having some todo with astral projection, i will try it again but i feel numb this when trying it, that numb makes you vibrate somehow right? and as for that spring that drew you back it should be your SILVER CORD

I believe so. A lot of people experience it these days. It happens when the strands of DNA that supports it gets activated. Science is yet to know much about this. Some people get it activated via meditation, while some like your just happen. We are all spirits at the end of the day.

aloeman15:
shu...
I'm talking money management, na passion u dey yan?
who passion EP to save or invest wela?
of d 180 million Nigerians where u see passion wey rish our ballers own?
how many of dem get beta pay?
how much dey yekini hand wen e die?
all our politicians, as dem dey swag about, shey na passion for politics dem get ni?
bros, if u lyk troway my gist, eh?
dem no dey tel pesin say rain dey fall.
sha go wit God.

You made money the centre of attention. Money is not everything.

levisco16:
i did it this morning after reading this posts on nairaland, but stopped at the vibration stage because of fear, i believe i can do it at will.

i could see my room, and i woke up opening my eyes in the same position so i believe am doing it

PLEASE TELL YOURS

I was young and I remembered my grad dad was ill at the hospital. My mum forced me to go to bed because there were visitors in the living room. I tried to force myself to sleep then I felt my body going numb. I couldnt feel them anymore....it was a bit scary but then I noticed I was floating above the bed. I turned around and could see my body. I knew this wasn't a dream as I could hear my mum talking in the living room.

I was really curious about my grandad who was ill.....the next think I knew was I was with him in the hospital. He was in a general ward and I could see him sleeping. Next thing I was was me beside the ocean. I have always loved the ocean, and this time I was there. I saw my mum walk past me. I looked at her and was full of appreciation. I felt loved and greatful for the life experience I had. But I couldn't move beyond the ocean as there was something like a spring pulling me back. Before I knew I was back in my room, my mum was calling me.

After that I would go out at will and later it stopped. I dream a lot now and I usually control my dreams. It's made me understand life better.

I think you shouldn't be scared. You have a great gift. You should enjoy it, you cannot die doing it. It is the most blissful state you can be. Thst is what people do drugs to experience, or smoke weed to feel " high"

hahn:
You are not as lucky as me to be living in Nigeria? Let's trade places. Just remember to come with your generator of spare cash for bribing. NO talk am again o



Neither do I



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