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italo: There are two reasons why you think every Catholic priest is sexually immoral.

1. CNN, BBC ETC TELL YOU SO.

2. You want/like to believe it.

The reason CNN, BBC etc blow out of proportion the things that Catholic priests do is that The Catholic Church is the main institution that stands up and opposes their evil agenda legalizing gay marriage and abortion etc all over the world. There are many pedophiles in larger society but you dont put much attention on them because they are not Catholic priests. Ask any lady close to you and she will tell you that most girls are molested as kids by usually close relatives or family friends. Recently on twitter, some buffoon posted a horrific picture of himself putting his penis into the mouth of a toddler (girl). Did you hear any more on that story from mainstream media? No. why? Because it wasnt a Catholic priest.

And the reason you believe all the lies and exaggerations is that you are anti-Catholic.

When did I ever say or believe that every catholic priest is sexually immoral??....eh italo??.....when??..........

Besides I don't think the CNN or BCC are exaggerating........is the media trying to just smite you guys or that the acts of those priests who are culpabable are actually true??............eh??...........let's be truthfull hear...I know definitely that sometimes the media could be exaggerating,but is it a lie that there are so many cases of homosexuality and pedophilia amongst the priests??......

italo: Majority of people in the world are free to marry. Where is the normalcy in the world?

Besides, why do you care so much about the the sexual inclinations of people you have called "satan worshippers" anyway?

Something is wrong somewhere.

Oboy the scriptures already proffers a solution to the constant happenings of pedophilia cases amongst your priests.........it is either you guys accept it or enjoy the lugubrious news that comes out of the RCC as regards there priests....

italo: "MIGHT"

I can easily tell you a number of protestants who open anti-Catholic threads habitually, without provocation, raining all sorts of unprintable insults.

Frosbel, Boomark, Plappville, Olaadegbu, etc

Dont pretend like you dont know you guys are the ones that have THE FEUD.

Thank God you no mention my name...........

italo: Saying that people engage in sexual immorality because they are celibate is like saying that people steal because they are poor.
A thief is a thief. One who cannot control the urge to take someone else's belonging when he is poor, will not be able to control the same urge when he is rich. Just look at our politicians if you need proof of that.

But you do know that we can correctly say that poverty is one good reason people steal....can't we??............even the book of proverbs says we should pray to God so that we don't become so poor that we resort to stealing.......we cannot deny the fact that poverty is one good reason why people steal........the same goes for the prevalent act of pedophilia and homosexuality amongst the priestly class in the RCC..........apart from imperfection and ones aTtitude towards immorality,abstinence from marraige is one good reason why these acts are seen among the clergy class.......you can't deny the obvious my bro.......

italo: I tell you, a priest who cannot control his urge to engage in sexual immorality, will not be able to control it, even if he were married.

Do not forget that priests are not the only people required to be celibate.

Every unmarried Christian should be celibate.

Unmarried christians should be celibate according to the scriptures until they are married not so??......that is scripturally correct and that is what God requires of unmarried individuals............now can you tell me what Gods requirement is for priests or those who wish to serve in the church from the scriptures??........

italo: Why are there so many homosexuals, pedophiles, rapists, porn artists, prostitutes, LovePeddler-mongers, perverts etc among unmarried people? Is it because they are required to be celibate?

No! It is because they are not fighting hard enough against the urge to sin.

The reason why there are so many pedophiles,rapists and porn stars in the world is because they are being controlled by the devil.....those persons are part of the world........anything goes for them...........

Ubenedictus: i asked you earlier, if celibacy was the cause of pedophilia and homosexuality, please tell me why those behaviours are found among married members of the society.

When you mention members of the society what or who do you mean exactly??....the entire human society that is under the influence of the ruler of this world(the devil) or professed practicers of Gods word??..........

The human enforced law on celibacy for priests like I've said is one good reason for the prevalent act of homosexuality and pedophilia amongst those who are priests........

Ok have you or any other person taken into account the ratio of pedophilia and homosexuality cases amongst the priestly class to that of the laity class??..........

How prevalent is this act amongst the laity class compared to the clergy class.....

Thank you....

Ubenedictus: hahaha, so you are unaware that married protestant pastors have been accused of pedophilia?
If marriage prevent pedophilia why didnt it prevent it for those protestant pastors?

I'm nt saying marraige automatically prevents pedophilia or homosexuality,I'm only saying it naturally curtails it...depriving grown men the wonderful opportunity of being married according to Yahwehs arrangement because of some church duties or position is against Gods plan and thus leads to chaos......it is glaring that one of the reasons for homosexuality and pedophilia amongst the priestly class in the RCC is because they've abstained from marraige .............

Let them marry and you'll see normalcy......

italo: Go and check all the anti-Catholic threads by protestants...

Then show me the anti-Protestant threads by Catholics.

Apart from some of us whose religious status are already known on this forum,some anonymous persons who create threads to mock or deride protestants might just be catholics........abi??..........

Ubenedictus: no let my guy olagbu hear u oh! D guy say heineken is forbiden.

But oh boy u rough oh, so u dey drink tombo?

Hehehehehehe.......tombo na him be the natural unadulterated Drink na...........nothing is as good as the original..........

Meanwhile no mind OLA.....you fit surprise say OLA get beer parlor business sef...........

italo: There are homosexuals and pedophiles in the general society among those who are not celibate.

Celibacy has nothing to do with pedophilia and homosexuality.

Jesus and Paul were celibate, but were homosexuals and pedophiles.

There are many Catholic Priests like them.

But u should agree my bro that the human law of celibacy is indeed one of the causative of pedophilia amongst RCC priests...........the number of those who took the lead in the christian congregation after Jesus' ascension who were celibates was infinitesimal............I would have loved it if you mentioned like 10 of the apostles who were celibates or who were celibates because it was a requirement for service just as it is done in the RCC....

For you to deny that celibacy has nothing to do with homosexuality and pedophilia amongst priests of the RCC would be like denying that religion has little or nothing to do with naija's backwardness...............

italo: We dont have a feud with you...

Do you see any Catholic on nairaland that wakes up in the morning and rains insults on Jehovah's witnesses, rccg, christembasy, olumba olumba etc from morning to night?

I dont see any.

Some do.......some catholics do while some do not..........but we all on nairaland have gone past that........we all are freinds regardless of how much insults we've rained on each other...........

E for no bad if after we don curse our mama and papa for here we go one corner go drink tombo or heineken..............

musKeeto: Why you no go happy? Atheists beginning to look as divided as the Christians.. Of course, considering our unholy vodka promised to unite us.... Well..

I thought you were an agnostic??......which side you belong??......talk o before I bring your baygon.........

davidylan: ooman has a point (he is simply making it crudely)... most of the atheists here have absolutely no clue how science works.

I know he does have a point but he's really taking it out so hard on them(fellow atheist).........I'm kinÐa haPpy sha.....because for once logicboy don see wahala wey pass am...................

If this is true then it would really help the image of the catholic church..........walahi!!!!!!!!..........priests would now be able to carry out there duties with all joy devoid of the constant happenings of pedophelia and homosexuality cases........

See abuses na...........oboy eh make we settle this feud before we hate ourselves oooo.........

Now I think I have to give ooman the ""most atheistic individual"" award here on nairaland.......oboy ehh!!!!!!!..........see problem na!!!!..........the guy challenges,suppresses and even calls fellow intelligent atheists FOOLS....

Logicboy,muskeeto,mazaje,thehomer,cyreex etc don see major wahala ................

Ubenedictus: this doesn't answer my question, did Jesus read or carry about the christian bible?

What is the bible??.......

Ubenedictus: this is like asking where did your morning prayer originate from. Simple answer: i invented it.
Go figure.

How can you compare prayers to the use of beads in worship..UBE are u ok??.....your comparisons only exposes the fact that you're desperate to hold on to fallacies...

Ubenedictus: me!

When I ask about sane christians I'm asking about the apostles and d first century christians who followed the leadings of the apostles.............who be you??.....

@UBE....where did the bones of either jacob or joseph(guess u meant joseph) end up??.....mummified and kept in a glass for veneration or in the grave??.............

Today na me and you.........

Ubenedictus: hehehe, u accuse me of not "obeying" God's word now e dey pinch u 4 body. Jacobs bones were moved around.

Please show me from d scriptures about jacobs bones and let's see if it matches with this pagan rite of preserving parts of human bodies for veneration.........

You might do well to answer these qÙestions as u open d scriptures...

1..What reasons were jacobs bones moved around??
2..For how long??

davidylan: this is deliberate dishonesty. Obviously they are praying, one just happens to be holding a bible. By that token would you claim they are also worshiping ties and wristwatches?

That is the foolishness of italo u have to deal with,................he's trying his best to equate is idolatrous acts to one holding the d scriptures...............what utter dis-ingenuity.........

Ubenedictus: no it a pity i am discussing with a grown man who on this issue has rejected his reasoning faculty. Worship=posture+beads. U try

And is worship = posture - beads??...........

What do u use your dead beads for??.....to tie around your necks like lil wayne for entertainment......

You are d grown azz man that is running away from the truth..........

How can one bow before graven images,using beads and also reciting mantras to the beads and also to the carved image and then deny it isn't worship.....teLl that folk tale to your dead graven rosaries and mary statue.......

Ubenedictus: did Jesus go about carry d xtian bible.

If I can remember Jesus read from d law and prophets which ofcus was on a scroll.....and I'm doing d same today.....Jesus read and I'm reading today...

Ubenedictus: hahaha, ur emotional arguement. Do well to provide d transcript of d meeting where catholic adopted the pagan beads.

Just simply tell us where the use of beads by the catholics originated from.......

Is that too hard for you to answer??..........

Which sane servant of God ever used beads in worship??....please show me.............

Pagan 9ja has to go get a birthday cake with candles all over so that he can make birthday wishes to his pagan gods.................

Ona don craze finish o......

Ubenedictus: that isnt d point!
D church compiled scripture, d pagans have their own scriptures, u didnt complain, d church uses beads for prayer other pagans have their beads and yet u claim becos d church uses bead she is pagan.
I put it to u that u have demostrated hypocrisy.

My question is when did christians start using beads in worship??....did our master do such??......

The truth is obvious......you borrowed the act from pagans.........pagans are your pace setters and not JESUS......can't you just see the truth??................I am not a hypÓcrite ,you are.........

Ubenedictus: d last time i checked d pagans also have their own holy books dat didnt stop d catholic church from compiling d bible and i didnt see u complaining about that

How does this even mean anything........

Where did you guys adopt the use of beads in worship??....from the books u compiled??......

The pagans have there own holy books and all you guys did was tap from there book.....no be so??....

Ubenedictus: d scriptures also say keep d sabbath holy. i doubt follow dat scripture uh?? and lastly dat heart wasnt preserved it is in-corrupt

We can from the scriptures learn about the law which the sabbath fell under and if christians are under obligation to observe it.......at least the sabbath was observed by patriarchs of old.....

Can you by any chance show us where servants of God at any time mummified dead bodies,move them from place to place and bow down to them??..........

Ona wan use us play abi??......

Ubenedictus: yet u till seem unable to define worship. u rest is just ur emotional arguement.

You want me to define worship to you abi??.......when u bow in front of the mary statue or when you count your beads like muslims or buddhists and recite the hail mary and also when you do obeisance to a dead piece of meat you can do well to ask yourself what worship is.....you guys think you are dealing with new born babies................

Missonas: Oya nw follow d steps of Jesus and stop throwing stones

Na because I never put the stones for catapult abi??.................

Jesus sef go dey wonder how praying to the Father come dey connected to using BEADS(a.k.a the rosary)..........smh!!!!.......

Missonas: We do not read our bible?nw datz hilarious!we cal D Pope Holy Fathr same way u guys cal Adeboye&TB josh man of God&Prophet bt i gues urz issokay ryt.we use d rosary 2pray d hail mary &d our fathr medidating on d mysterious<all contained in d bible up until wen Jesus died and resurrectd).we sprinkle holy water(blessed and consecratd by d priests) jst lyk u use d anoiting oil or olive oil.so watz all d fuss abt?we dnt pray to dead pple bt we pray tru dem 2GOD.if y'all dnt get dat issokay bt datz our believe and it works 4us,u dnt av 2accept it...Peace

The last time I checked it was pagans who used BEADS in worship......why can't u guys for once in your life follow the exact foot steps of Christ and the apostles??...........

Why can't u pray to God our Father without the use of the rosary??.....ona go die??.......

Instead of catholics to ressurect dead bodies they rather mummify them and bow down to them....what utter pagan rubbish!!!....

I guess this is what Jesus and the apostles did........

italo: Exactly.

There question should be "where does the Bible say: dont bow before the dead?"

If the Bible doesnt say it, then it is "UNBIBLICAL" to say it, abi?!

Even when the scriptures say do not make graven images you guys out rightly disobey such commands to make useless statues...........if u can show any of Gods servants that preserved the dead bodies of persons to bow down to it you can as well show us and stop supporting idolatry.....it is obvious that u guys can worship just about anything...even the sh++t in your toilet..........smh!!!..........

Did Jesus our master bow down to dead bodies....italo and UBE you guys are both a big disgrace to Christ........

Ubenedictus: u do not know d definition of worship, u think worship is posture, i can't discuss with your adamance and ignorance. Go and learn what worship is.

O men we all know what worship means in all angles...don't take us for fools or kids.......which ever way you choose to define worship,bowing before a dead meat remains something detestable to God.............don't call me ignorant...if anyone is ignorant it is you and italo and your clerics who've chosen to shove scriptural injunctions aside to espouse the worship of a rotten meat...are you guys vampires or what??.......