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Ubenedictus: you really have a problem with languages!

Which language.??........what is easter??.....whÀt is Ít??........how Jesus take dey tied to easter??......ona still dey dodge my question...

Ubenedictus: i guess you have a big problem with the word "easter". Ok i hear.
I am celebrating pascha, hope u don happy now? Hey no disturb urself dem no get gods wey dem dey call pascha

Ahh.......so no be easter u dey celebrate again abi??.....now na pascha??......so you even know say easter k-leg abi??....

Zikkyy: Honestly don't know what you are talking about. Getting to know bout EAOSTRE for the first time (& from you). It appears you know bout EAOSTRE than zikkyy. You should be the one telling us bout the relationship between Jesus & EAOSTRE. e be like you don worship EAOSTRE before I can only talk about Jesus

No you should stop playing this charade and answer the question....what is easter and what connection does our holy master (Jesus) have with easter........maybe eaostre dey turn your eye..............

Zikkyy: Where is your proof? You were at zikkyy's place & you saw him sacrificing he-goat to EOSTRE

Zikky don't dance around this.....what has eaostre got to do with Jesus??.........

Answer me and let's move past this your questions wey you knw say Jesus no like......

It is said that what people are celebrating is Jesus" ressurection.....so I am asking::::.....what has Jesus got to do with eaostre??............what's his businees with it??....

I keep asking the same questions too.......

I just hope this thread makes the front page tomorrow..............

Zikkyy: If someone tells you he is celebrating Christ resurrection, take it like that. Unless you have evidence to prove that it was all a lie. UBE is not saying that he is celebrating the the resurrection of 'EOASTRE', you are one accusing him of worshiping 'EQASTRE'.

Don't act like you don't know what we are talking about..........UBe and you(I no know wether you follow too) are celebrating EOSTRE............I just want UBE to tell me what relationship Jesus has with EAOSTRE.....

Can you please answer the question too??........

Just answer............

Zikkyy: You don start again why force someone to worship other gods? If the man says he is celebrating Christ resurrection, why accuse him of worshiping something else. Abi you saw the man in sango worshipping attire sacrificing a goat to sango?

Hehehehe.............I am only telling the man that Jesus hates eoastre.........because its a pagan goddess...I just don't know how Jesus got entangled with that goddess........I really just don't know...maybe UBE can help us explain how our Lord is linked to the goddess EOASTRE..........

There head no correct....I no blame them sha............

Freksy: ^^^
My bros how far? It's pretty long.

I'm fine bro......its been really long....we never see your brake lights for a while.....hw u dey??

Omenuko: Why not say the Bible doesn't say Elijah was taken to heaven and then transported to earth. All this you are typing is speculation. I'll ask my question again. Where in the Bible does it say Elijah visited heaven and then was transported back to earth? Thanks.

Now you say I'm speculating after going through those scriptures .............Elijah did not visit the heavens..he did not visit anybody or thing...Elijah simply was transfered through the atmosphere(the atmosphere a.k.a heaven in that verse was the medium of transportation ) .....can't you just understand this simple basic truth??.........like I said earlier keep contravening Jesus' words and the whole bible.........

My aim here is to stand by Jesus' words and the rest of the scriptures that says no man hath ascended into the heavens(where God resides)...I don't know what your aim is........

Omenuko: I cannot agree with your personal interpretation because it is contrary to scripture and tradition. I'm not arguing with Jesus, I'm disputing your claims, which you have yet to prove with evidence from scripture.

What have I not proven??.........

let me re-quote the verse again.....

New International Version
(©2011)
As they were walking along and
talking together, suddenly a
chariot of fire and horses of fire
appeared and separated the two
of them, and Elijah went up to
heaven in a whirlwind.
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Have I not from the scriptures explained wht the heaven there means.....you are programmed to believe that heaven must always mean where Gods abode(or where Jesus came from)...........we've also quoted from the scriptures that Elijah after that incidence wrote a letter to Jehoram,the king of Judah....all this,to prove that he was just simply transported to another location here on earth through the whirl wind......oya read am:::
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2 Chronicles 21:12-15
New International Version (NIV)

12 Jehoram received a letter from Elijah the
prophet, which said:
“This is what the LORD, the God of your
father David, says: ‘You have not followed the
ways of your father Jehoshaphat or of Asa
king of Judah. 13 But you have followed the
ways of the kings of Israel, and you have led
Judah and the people of Jerusalem to
prostitute themselves, just as the house of
Ahab did. You have also murdered your own
brothers, members of your own family, men
who were better than you. 14 So now the
LORD is about to strike your people, your
sons, your wives and everything that is yours,
with a heavy blow. 15 You yourself will be very
ill with a lingering disease of the bowels, until
the disease causes your bowels to come out.’
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.......coupled with the clear words of Jesus I just don't know how you stubbornly choose to stick to the shaky fact that elijah went to stay with God in heaven,there by contradiciting the whole bible and also the factual words of Jesus..............

Omenuko: I do not know...All I know is that Enoch and Elijah are with God, as the Bible states. Anything else is speculation.

You see yourself..........they are not with God.......Jesus did not see them in heaven before descending....can't you just agree with that even if it is so hard for you??............

Keep lying to yourself and arguing with Jesus who came down from heaven.......

Ubenedictus: now my dear tell me the name of the christian community close to you that preach any thing apart from jesus arose on easter? You can't go about making such claims unless u can prove that a particular christian community preach about a pagan god during easter.
Jesus business with easter is that jesus rose again from d dead.

Was Jesus raised on easter day??..........what is easter??.......do you need me to define it for u??.............what has EAOSTRE got to do with the holy one of God??......smh....!!!!!!

Omenuko: Did I say Enoch or Elijah did not die, so why divert the topic? Please, show me in the Bible where it states Elijah visited heaven and then was transported back to earth. Thanks.

Where did they die??...where??.......in heaven abi??.....did they experience any ressurection ??.....

Omenuko: My statement has not been declared heresy by any church. But to believe that saints and others who die in God's favor are dead and have no interaction with God, is in fact heresy by all christian churches. You do right to say Jesus Christ is the first born from the dead.

If you too believe as ijawkid that Elijah visited heaven and then was transported back to earth, please show me where scripture states as such.

Even after explaining the heavens you are still struggling to believe.......

Oya keep contradiciting Jesus and the rest of the scriptures..............

Omenuko: For you to make such unfounded interpretations as fact, without any evidence is very illogical. The most you can say is that the Bible says 1+1=2, and tradition holds that 4-2=2, therefore I believe (your individual interpretation. Note: I cannot say the Bible states/teaches) x, y, and z. No where in the Bible does it say "Elijah was transported through earths atmosphere to another location on earth." Nor does the Bible state that "Elijah did not go to and live in the heavens where Jesus came from." These are all personal interpretations.

And yours is divine interpretations abi??.....and your theory of assumption stems from where??...from Jesus??.....your theory negates the basic truth that all have sinned and would experience death.......saying the likes of elijah,and enoch were assumed into heaven to live there is tantamount to saying that those men are more important than Jesus who died and was ressurected before his ascension..........

Elijah did not go to any heaven.....elijah was transferred to another location on earth........

Elijah experienced death and is in the ground awaiting reSsurection.......Jesus' words are so clear.....NO MAN has ascended into heaven....gulp in this basic truth....

Romans 5:14

##New International Version
(©2011)
Nevertheless, death reigned from
the time of Adam to the time of
Moses, even over those who did
not sin by breaking a command, as
did Adam, who is a pattern of the
one to come.

##New Living Translation (©2007)
Still, everyone died--from the
time of Adam to the time of
Moses--even those who did not
disobey an explicit commandment
of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is
a symbol, a representation of
Christ, who was yet to come.
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If you like exempt the likes of elijah and enoch from romans 5:14.......

Or you can as well assume elijah died in the heavens he was assumed into...........

Once again Jesus is correct while you and your ilks are WRONG.....

Anyigala: You see my friend, you can never forget the cross, and in Holy week leading to Easter Sunday, we remeber the agony Christ went through for our salvation and on Easter Sunday , we celebrate His resurection which is the only reason we are Christians today. If Christ did not rise on the 3rd day, their will be NO hope of salvation for mankind. Are you saying that this is not worth celebrating?

Did Christ ask u to??.....so you now know the importance of Christ ressurection more than the Christ that died....abi??...besides easter is pagan...........its the name of a goddess.....

chukwudi44: The bible did not say he was taken to the clouds.Besides no where is the clouds referred to as heaven in the bible.Stop twisting the scriptures.This your attempt to twist an explicit bible passage is just too shameful.

Read matthew 6:26
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American Standard Version
Behold the birds of the heaven,
that they sow not, neither do they
reap, nor gather into barns; and
your heavenly Father feedeth
them. Are not ye of much more
value then they?


Darby Bible Translation
Look at the birds of the heaven,
that they sow not, nor reap, nor
gather into granaries, and your
heavenly Father nourishes them.
Are ye not much more excellent
than they?
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Na which heaven be this one wey birds dey fly??.....is it the heaven God resides and which Jesus came(descended) from or the earths atmosphere(air,clouds etc)...??........

Simple:::::......elijah was transported through earths atmosphere to another location on the earth...........Elijah did not go to and live in the heavens where Jesus came from......

I just don't know why you guys choose to be stiff necked .........Jesus said no man has ascended into the heavens...can't you for once concur with Jesus' words even though most times its an anthema to you guys??..............

Ubenedictus: that means using a microphone in the church is sinful too! According to your logic.
And take note uzzah died not for "overstepping" as you claim but by "disobeying". The law say don't touch, he touched. On the otherhand the bible says " where the is no law, there is no sin". You can't accuse someone of sin becos he is celebrating the ressurection of Christ unless you can show the law or principle and expressly say or imply "don't celebrate the ressurection of christ".

You guys are nt celebrating the ressurection christ...you are swimming in the pagan celebration of easter which Jesus himself never instituted.....don't u get it??......

Must you guys always tie Jesus to paganism......can't you leave Jesus alone??........leave him alone and hug paganism.....choose one and leave the other.............

What is Jesus' business with easter??.....

dokie: i think italo's advice on frosbel and his likes should be taken seriously, if not you could go nuts. the truth is that these guys are victims of a false prophet's sect. of course they claim to be christian but their fundamental aim is to disprove the traditional and fundamental teachings of christianity like the trinity,the reality of hell fire, baptisim in the name of the father, son and Holy Spirit etc. they are completely lost and their chances of being saved is very slim except you quit arguing with them and pray for them more. satan's grip on thier lives is so strong to the extent that you can hardly find anyone in their congregation that can think for themselves. if not how can people come up with arguments as empty as these guys come up with. they are prepared to argue from now till tmrw relating scriptural interpretations as they have been taught by their false prophet founder and their successors. they are usually told that if they leave that group that they have no chance of being saved as such they are bound in these high control fellowships that is leading them to death. if these guys would be willing to reveal their church,they are either jehovers witness, seventh day adventists, mormons, christadelphians, "bible" students, worldwide church of God etc.

Can't you open your eyes and read the words of Jesus??......are you also going to follow italos words by refuting the words of Jesus who lucidly said that no man has ascended into the heavens??.....we've even brought out facts from the scriptures to show that Elijah was relocated to another position on earth but u guys won't agree...........until you allign your thoughts and beliefs strictly to the scriptures you would be having the same problems as italo and the rest............

Elijah did not go to any heaven if not Jesus for see am before him descend..............

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Omenuko: Guy, I really don't understand your question. Do you mean to say that Elijah visited heaven and then was transported back to earth? If so, show me where scripture says that.

Elijah was transported through the clouds(heaven) and taken to another location ...

Are the clouds not also heaven??............

What do you call the clouds??.......

Logicboy03: Desperate trolling?

I just don't knw why the thread I opened was closed........

Oya tell me where u go hide since??................

chukwudi44: Are you sure you understand english language? Where in that scripture did it indicate Elijah was transported to another eartly location.

11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to[b][/b]HEAVEN[b][/b] in a whirlwind.

Where in that verse suggests that elijah lived in heaven??....

Abi them be tie Jesus eye with wrapper so as not to see elijah for heaven before him descend??...........

Let us repeat Jesus" words again from john 3:13...

"No one has ascended into heaven, but He
who descended from heaven: the Son of
Man." - John 3:13

italo: Catholic till i die!

Italo is the OP correct??......

Omenuko: I'm not sure if you need comprehension skills, but I will ask my question again. Where are they? How did Elijah continue to send messages to his servant after he was taken up to heaven. Are you suggesting that Elijah continued to communicate with the living after God took him?

Further, it seems like you are insinuating that they are in fact in heaven, and seem to suggest that there are multiple heavens. If that's the case, how many heavens are there? And if they are in any one of the heavens and continue to communicate with the living, does this not conflict with your initial argument that they are dead and have no interaction with anything or anyone?

It is up to you to go do your research........elijah simply could still send messages because he did not ascend to the heavens Jesus descended from..........Elijah was taken up into the clouds(which is also reffered to as heavens) and relocated to another place on earth.......chikena!!!!!........

Elijah was taken into the clouds and transported to another place on the earth.....Elijah did not go to stay in heaven.......get the point??........that scripture never said elijah was taken into heaven and then stayed there.....

For once try to understand Jesus' words.........

No man has ascended into heaven.........

Jesus was not on ogogoro when he said those words..............

Omenuko: If Elijah and Moses are not in heaven, where are they? In 2 Kings 2:1-11 it states:



Does this bible scripture not plainly state that Elijah was taken up to heaven? In addition, it is also believed that Enoch was also taken to heaven, which can be read from Genesis 5:22:



Although Church tradition holds that Moses is also with God in heaven, which is attested to in Matthew 17:1-9 and from Jewish tradition, there is no explicit scripture that states that God took him. In any event, where did God take Elijah and Enoch, if not heaven?

if you had read the scriptures well you would have found out that after that taking up into heaven incident elijah still was serving as a prophet and sending messages to his servant....was he sending those messages from the very heavens Jesus descended from??....

when it is said that enoch and elijah were taken up into heaven what you should have asked is"""WHICH HEAVEN.....??

always look at all the points before you establish a fact...Jesus has told us the truth..that when he descended he saw no person who had ascended at anytime into heaven.....

dorox: Rapture has started and he along with Anonny made the first batch of those raptured I am devastated that a nairalan atheist was taken ahead of me, having another one like mazaje go up will kill me completely.

lmao....

mazaje: Where are the two?. . .Logicboy and Anonny?. . .I miss them. . .

miss them too.....

dorox: It may be that he is hibernating after what appears to be months of staying awake going by his round the clock posts.

.....dorox you might just be right....but i think theres more to LB's absence....lets all go look for that boy o...

Besides elijah, and moses were not born agains,so I wonder what they shoud be doing in heaven as at the time when Jesus was on earth......people should learn to read there bibles complete............

Would the glo bis work with this gloflat apn??