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nurey:
See what fuel scarcity has caused, pips are now springing up diesel engine thread.

I am sure a brand new diesel engine is always cheaper than the petrol variant because diesel cars don't just move like the petrol counter part.

Whether diesel is more expensive or not, it still has a better advantage than petrol in terms of price.

If you buying a diesel powered car in Nigeria, you need to do a lot of research before you venture into it, inorder to benefit extensively from the advantage.

Brand new Diesel engine will cost more than brand new Petrol engine.

Ikenna

eazy12:
Pls I want to inquire, btw 407 and 406 which one has lesser problems, cos I intent buying a 407

I only respond to positive questions. If you could rephrase the question positively, then I would share good things you need to know about those Lions. Its well.

Ikenna

coalcoal1:
@ikenna351
I just want to say a big thank you for your contributions on this thread. my overheating problems actually started after one of the radiator fans stopped working. It just dawned on me that I had replaced the water in the radiator without adding coolant after replacing the faulty fan. I followed Ikenna's advice and bought Total coolant at N350 and so far, the temperature is normal. the final test will be when I travel later today to Ibadan with the AC on. if it still does not show any sign of overheating, that means the problem is solved .
can you imagine that my mechanic had already started suggesting a gasket change?

That's good to hear. Congrats!


Ikenna

abbatsg:
ikenna sir, am intending of buyin peugeot 406 2.0 16v Hpi is this engine ok? Need ur advise pls nd secondly can i get 2004 model with this engine?

Yes, you can. But if you are not a DIY person, I would recommend a 406 with XU, EW or ES engine for you, since you will be relying on Nigerian mechanics.

Ikenna

Schwarzenegger:
Ikenna please the screen is the same.
Thanks...

Switch on the ignition or start the car, press and hold the first button on the left (steering) side of the MFD. After about 2 seconds, the MFD will display the current language blinking. Release the left button, press the 2nd button on the right side of MFD and the language will change. Keep pressing as the language changes till you get to the language you want (English, probably). Stop pressing when you reach the language. Leave the two buttons , wait for few seconds and it will save it and turn the screen back to where it was before the setting or configuration started.

Ikenna

Schwarzenegger:
It doesn't have cd, just cassette plaýer

I was not referring to the headunit (radio). I meant the MFD (Multifunction display) above the heating/ventilation control panel/switches.

Ikenna

Schwarzenegger:
Ikenna pls how can i change the writings on a 406 display screen from german to english. Thanks. Chidi
The car was used in germany, so the writings are in germans.

It depends on the 406 model. Is it the type on the attached picture?


Ikenna

salihumaibeni:
I'm a lion user nd a good fan...lives nd wrk in abuja wanna get ride of my lion 406 EW10 lether fabric interior in good working condition...wanna get HDI 16 407 diesel 2006 model... whts ur catch.
Pls mr @Ikenna351 @king406 what the problem of this model HDI 16 diesel wanna pay for it advice me asap

Do you have access to a Peugeot diesel mechanic in Abuja or you are a DIY lion owner?

Besides, have you done proper investigation starting with VIN details of the 407?

Ikenna

Two weekends ago, I travelled to Kaduna and spent it with The Lions community Kaduna members. It was fun. Aside the pleasure, members were bringing their lions to me to "touch" and I spent time reverting those that had abused cooling system back to factory (reinstalling thermostat, reverting fans connection to factory, etc). It's over 2 weeks now. None called to complain lion has started overheating or something is wrong. Instead, the calls and messages have been, "thank you for I now enjoy truly lions fuel economy; thank you for I now enjoy the true power of the engine which was lacking before, etc.

The truth is, people really don't know what they do to these poor vehicles by abusing their cooling systems. A simple issue with cooling system which could be as minor as failed expansion bottle cover, they would remove and throw away thermostat and butcher factory fan connection. Some would go the extent of installing trailer radiator to make sure the temperature gauge remain at 0 degree Celsius no matter how hot ambient temperature is or car is driven. Thermostat is a component in engine cooling system, just like every other part that could fail. So I don't see why it is too much to replace a failed thermostat, rather than run the system without it, that is, if at all its the cause of the overheating in the First place (if truly the car is overheating or overheated).

Even a simple thing as running a cooling system on water "only" shortens sends these cooling systems to early grave, including the engines.

Tonychristopher, you can be ignorant in something, but gloating about it doesn't make it funny anymore. Aside that you are polluting the environment with your vehicle, intentionally, with your abused cooling system (rich running), you are simply telling God that you don't deserve that vehicle, for killing it softly with your very own hands.

I wanted to ignore this thread, but seeing someone took this thread to homepage changed that. This thread shouldn't have gone there, because its misleading. Notwithstanding, like I always say, "DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!".


Ikenna

toibatife:
once again, Gazzuz thank u,. u r da man. Ikenna, God bless. my 307sw is back. EW10A in da house.

Thank you. That's very good to hear.

Ikenna

tonychristopher:
bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat

If what you meant is VW bug, then you obviously never touched that car key before.

The engine had oil cooler, but lack conventional car cooling system. Meaning, it had a limit. Owners of that bug that tried to push it beyond it limit ended up burning the engine or losing it. It was not designed to be used as vehicle with standard cooling system.

Ikenna

tonychristopher:
bros dores it mean people dont tropicalise engines...dude it is done, ur lucky or were lucky.....my car doesnt have a thermo and it runs okay just a bit fuel consumption



but that is okay


it is an individual thing, if you want to leave thermostat fine, if your car is overheating and if u can leave thermostat ..fine, if you can yank it off..also fine


i am not deceiving people, all drivers aint no kids, so they can decide

I wonder where you got the "feeling" that the only harm you are doing on that vehicle is rich running that sends excess unburnt fuel to the crankcase. You obviously have no idea what it does to your crank jounals, do you? You obvioulsy have no idea what constant running of engine at low temperature does to the cylinders and other lubricating parts of engine? Do you even know how engine works?

If you have intention of selling the vehicle in future, do humanity a favour, kindly inform the innocent buyer that you intentionally abused the vehicle mercilessly. At least, he/she will appreciate your honesty, to be prepared what awaits him/her.

What you do with your vehicle is your business. Just dont pass on the abuse or nightmare to innocent person.

Ikenna

Schwarzenegger:
Ikenna please how durable and reliable are auto transmission in 406 wagon.

They are good as auto transmission can be. But most especially, they give out what they receive. Follow instructions in owners manual about them, show love to these lions and they continually put smiles on your face. It's garbage in, garbage out, simple.

Good morning.

Ikenna

DGD1:
not yet,
I do Japanese for now

Ok. Good morning.

Ikenna

DGD1:
here comes the lion man,
God bless you for the selfless service.

Thank you and God bless you too.

Do you drive a Lion?

Ikenna

klint16:
Hello house,I have some few questions about 406 ew10 and its urgent. How much is total Quartz 7000? Also I hear some noise like sisisisi!!! when the engine is on and the mechanic said its release bearing how true is dat? And if its true and I change it, is it advisable to still use same gear box oil or I should change it? And what's the recommended gear box oil for 406 stick shift. What is the factory recommended battery 75ahr or 62ahr. can someone help check this vin? Vf38brfn291063355 thanks. Please Ikenna your assistance is needed.
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If the Gear oil is still the original one the lion came with and its still gauged, leave the oil as it is. It's meant to be used throughout the lions lifespan.

But if you want to change the fluid and still want the gear lever shifting to remain smooth, especially when box is gearbox is cold, then find and use only Total 75w80. It's available online. The gearbox takes about 1.8 litre (approximately 2 litres).

As for battery, 62 Ah will do the job, but I would recommend 68 or 75 Ah.

Ikenna

Schwarzenegger:
Ikenna, please how durable is the automatic gear box transmission in Peugeot 406 wagon. Thanks Chidi..
Also, how good is converting from auto to manual trans mission.

Conversion from Auto to manual in these lions are very easy.


Ikenna

Good morning everyone. Long time.


Ikenna

Mishydoo:
This Ikenna's thread on Pegeout is scary true....plenty peeps hvin prblems without solutions,!

As for this, my first priority is the WhatsApp Peugeot Community, not the Nairaland Peugeot thread, even though I still visit the thread. But note that most queries you found no solutions offered have been resolved or been attended to in WhatsApp Peugeot community.

Ikenna

Mishydoo:
U cnt bliv av been makin research on this since jan,...I seem to get confused by d day.i jst dun wanna mk a mistake.

This Ikenna's thread on Pegeout is scary true....plenty peeps hvin prblems without solutions,some costing hundreds of thousands....imaging one guy says he owns a 406 wt no prblms b4 but he ws driving one day and he jst heard a loud sound in d engine,wen he opened d bunnet der ws smoke all over and mech tld him d engine burst inexplicably,and he is to get a new engine...imagine!

Do you really want to own a car in the first place? Because you didn't sound like you do in the above post I quoted.

If you want to learn more about Peugeot 406 and what it takes to keep him on the road and in very good shape for a very long time, I would suggest you join the WhatsApp Peugeot community to learn all these from previous and current owners . Nothing beats first hand experience!


Ikenna

PAN LEADS RACE FOR FIRST NIGERIAN CAR

That Pan Nigeria Limited, the local assembler and promoter of the Peugeot brand of vehicles in the country, is under pressure is not in doubt. But the pressure is neither coming from scores of new car dealers dotting the nation’s landscape nor is it about getting a ready market for its high volume of vehicles coming from its recently rejuvenated Kaduna factory. It is all about producing a vehicle that is accepted by all and qualifies as a truly Nigerian car.

Pan is not alone in the race. There are other contenders. Since the introduction of a new automotive policy in September, 2013, at least 23 firms have shown interest in setting up vehicle assembly plants in Nigeria. Some have commenced operations and rolled out a number of vehicles from the local plants. Prominent among them are the Stallion Auto Group (assembling the Nissan brand of vehicles), Dana/Kia Motors of Nigeria, Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company Limited and the ANAMMCO-ABC Transport partnership producing Shamac trucks.

The decision to introduce the automotive policy, according to the government, is to encourage the establishment of automobile factories in Nigeria and speed up the revival of the steel industry as well as tyre manufacturing firms.

The idea of producing truly Nigerian cars has continued to agitate the minds industry stakeholders. The Director-General, National Automotive Council, Mr. Aminu Jalal, gave a hint about features that would guide the public in taking the decision.

With a zero tariff on completely knocked down vehicles imported by local assembly plants and about 70 per cent tariff imposed on imported fully-built cars (old and new), many automobile firms are encouraged to set up production firms in Nigeria.

According to Jalal, it is not enough to assemble a vehicle in Nigeria; it must have a reasonable percentage of local content. And it must be affordable and acceptable by most Nigerians.

And after many years of suspending vehicle assembling operation, Pan returned to vehicle production July last year with the inauguration of Peugeot 301 production at its Kaduna factory.

The resuscitation of the moribund vehicle production line was done along with the inauguration of a site for auto components’ cluster park.

Pan Nigeria said it was starting with the 301 saloon car on a semi-knocked down 2 and plans to graduate into the Completely Knocked Down model this year.

The firm also said its plant had been modified to simultaneously carry out the SKD11, SKD1 and CKD operations, adding that the plant had the capacity to churn out 250 vehicles daily.

Pan said the new 301 had been produced to adapt to the Nigerian environment in terms of road conditions, climate and fuel.

The Chairman, Pan Nigeria, Alhaji Munir Ja’afar, said, “Factors such as our road conditions, climate, geography, motoring attitudes and performance are highly considered in packaging the car with the sole aim of satisfying our esteemed customers.”

The Managing Director, Pan Nigeria, Ibrahim Boyi said the migration into the 301 CKD programme would offer greater opportunities for local content development, skills acquisition and technology transfer. The new Peugeot 301 has three variants with Allure as the top of the range. Is the company positioning the 301 to breast the tape in the first Nigerian car contest?

Formerly known as Peugeot Automobile Nigeria, the firm may have changed its name to Pan Nigeria to reflect its current transformation.

Under the old name, the firm made many of its products household names. Notably among them were 504, 404, 505, 406, 307 and 508. It has switched over to a new generation of vehicles in line with global competitiveness and has commenced the production of new generation vehicles such as 301, 3008 and 4008.

The firm said the new 3008 and 4008 which took its inspiration from the sport utility vehicle, also rose to the challenges of the future with technological equipment to enhance both safety and driving pleasure.

The company recently organised a nationwide test drive for some motoring journalists to feel its new generation vehicles.

The team took off from Lagos, driving on smooth and rough village roads across Oyo, Osun, Ondo and Kogi states. The journey continued through Abuja, the nation’s capital and finally ending on Monday in Kaduna, the home of Pan.

Boyi said the test drive was to give the media team a firsthand experience about the products and expose the auto writers to pan’s quality production processes.

He said that the objective of the test drive was to restate the values of Peugeot vehicles through the unbiased driving experience of motoring editors and other experts and to inform the public about the evolution of Peugeot vehicles.

According to him, Peugeot vehicles still maintain old attributes of durability, luxury and ruggedness, with new attributes of style and fuel efficiency to position the brand as one of the leading automobiles in sub Saharan Africa.

He also said the launch of a site for the automotive cluster pack and local production of Peugeot vehicles in Kaduna last year was to ensure that the automotive policy would not only be implemented but sustained.

http://www.punchng.com/business/transport/pan-leads-race-for-first-nigerian-car/



Ikenna

enjay1:
its a D9....EW10 engine....single fan 6big blades..........i think it starts spinnin as d engine starts runnin.....

If that is the case, it cannot be diagnosed as factory, since they have bypassed the factory connections to the fan and connected it to Alternator to power the fan once engine starts running, which obviously led to the issue you are having. Peugeot cars hate abuse.

The connections to the fan is no longer factory and one can only tell the cause of the issue by troubleshooting it physically, not online, since abuse of electrical fans come in various ways. Notwithstanding, let your electrician check the Maxi fuses on bsm, the engine fuse box. The fuse that powers the fan is hidden under the bsm. That engine fuse box needs to be lifted up to access the fuse.

Let him also check the state of the fan relays and resistors in that fan housing, that is, if they have not butchered those ones out.

Ikenna

enjay1:
hello ikenna...i really need ur help.....my 406 started overheatin all of a sudden last week and on close inspection i discovered the fan wasnt working, i took it to my mechanic who said "the fan don burn" and dat i will nid a replacement.....i bought direct Belgium fan and after installation the fan still wont work!...we testd d fan outside d engine and even arted it to d battery n it was workin fine!...but wen its fixed into its place it wont work.....after testin d electrical connections from the battery to the fan d guy nw says its the fans regulator is d problem n needs changin.....im worried dat he myt just b guessin at d problem.....wat do u think?....i would also appreciate if u link me up wit a standard peugeot mech here in enugu.....infact dat is highly needed b4 d guy wrecks d fox.....thanks

Good afternoon.

When it comes to Peugeot and diagnosis, I dont jump in giving solutions. First I need to know what system is the lion that is having the issue. Second is the history.

So, here are my questions:

1. Whats the series of your 406? D8 or D9?

2. What engine is in the 406?

3. How many fans is in front of AC Condenser/radiator?

4. How has the fan(s) been working before the failure? Was it spinning as soon as ignition came on or engine started to run? Or would spin only when temperature gauge rose to 90 C or AC came on?



Ikenna

sandunruki:
I have Corolla AE100 96auto. I found that Thermostat was removed by previous mechanic. 3 years im driving without thermostat. Most of the times temperature meter readings below the half line. After long drive it reach to the half level.

I live in Sri Lanka and my mechanic instruct me to install new thermostat. Now its always at the half line of the temperature meter. But i found some Radiator leakage and went for radiator mechanic. He advise me to remove the Thermostat valve immediately. He said its not needed the country like us.

So i told this incident to my USA friend Handawala and he instruct me to keep the thermostat and find a good Radiator guy.

I surf this thread and learn lots of things about Thermostat. Thanx all for your valuable comments.

That's good to hear.

Ikenna

People have taken night pills by choosing to remain misers, thereby given up on good life, which makes it difficult for majority to now tell what is good life anymore. Definition of quality has long changed for the majority. That's why the world has very few wealthy men and women, also, the gap between the rich and the poor keeps widening.

The mind can be very deceptive if you allow it to control your life. Control your mind and you will receive life in abundance. Rationalizing a boring life doesnt attract a good life. Aim big, appreciate and desire them, and they become your reality.

My current oldest Lion, 1986 Peugeot 505 V6, still run perfectly. The last time I replaced something on that engine was in 2012 and it was the spark plugs. I don't want to go into the rest of my Lions.

Just like every Religious Master or scripture have said, "JUDGE NOT BY APPEARANCES". Then my own advice, as has always been, "DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!" Your choice.

Ikenna

toibatife:
hello mr ikenna. i own a 2005 307 sw (pix attached). about 4weeks ago, i noticed that its radiator gets dry/empty over a short distance. after observation, i detected there was a leakage somewer arnd d engine. i then filled it at intervals wen i used it that weekend. i decided to take it to my mech after i complained to him. on the day it was being driven to the mech, it stopped on the way though car was driven by my brother. the mech came about a week after to check, he sed d 'kick' is bad and charged #7k, i gave him d money to change it. he called again that d car still wudnt start and suggested we tow it to his workshop in Ogudu GRA (i stay in Ikotun) which i had no choice but to agree. he called days later that the cylinder, valves (bent) wer havin issues n needs to b fixed after bn diagnosed. he sed he wud nid at least #50k to fix this problems and d broken plastic leaking water. am seriously confused as this was given to me as a gift and dont want to be frustrated by high cot of maintenance. i nid ur honest n candid advice. is der an engine called 'sudan' as my mech always mentioned? tnx

Sorry to hear about your Lion issues.

What mechanics call "Sudan" engine in Peugeots is actually EW10A engine, which you will find in some 407 as well. Its different from common EW10J4.


I think the first thing to do is to change that mechanic because he is either introducing more issues for the poor Lion or he doesnt know his left from right with Peugeot cars.

Since you stay in Lagos, I would suggest you contact GAZZUZ to come and find out what exactly is wrong with that Lion. Because failed starter would not lead to timing belt failure and valves damage.

Besides, what transmission? Auto or manual? When he said the starter was bad, did he mean the car wouldnt crank or it cranked slowly or it cranked but wouldnt start? For Peugeot auto trannies, a non crank issue could be caused by faulty multifunction switch, not starter.

In fact, contact GAZZUZ to physically inspect/diagnose the car. Only that the Lion is already in another man's workshop.

Ikenna

emmyz09:
@ikenna351 bros I have a challenge with my 806 at abuja and have been having sleepless nite with mechanics. Kindly come to my aid as the car has been grounded for almost 6months due to failed mechanics pls help me my no is 08023483750 the car is at mararaba pls help me. Thanks.

What is wrong with the Lion? What engine is in it?


Ikenna

samally:
Mr ikenna ..please can i have your contact??

08052811236, ikenna351@gmail.com.


Ikenna

klint16:
Hello everyone, please what is the different between Nigerian assembly (PAN)406 with ew10 engine and imported to Nigeria. I had that the brain box of PAN 406 is more expensive than the imported.PAN goes for N80,000 while imported goes for N35,000. Also PAN has more elecrical problem than the imported.please ikenna what is your own take on these?

Hello klint,

You were wrongly informed. There is no difference please. However, there is what you might consider a difference in emission system, which is not peculiar to 406 produced by PAN.

Some foreign produced 406 phase II have downstream sensors while some don't. You can tell by their VIN. The ones RFR on their VINs mostly don't have that sensor, while those with RFN and others do have. This make the engine wiring harness and ECU different, even if they run on the same engine.

Now, for 406 phase II produced by PAN, which were all fully multiplexing, just like some foreign ones, all of them do not have downstream sensors, which make the engine ECU different. But then, their VINs mostly have RFN.

Every other thing is the same.

As for the ECU prices. You were wrongly informed as well. Brand new ECU for EW10 engine (which likely are designed to run engine without downstream sensors) cost about 80-100k, depending on where you buying from. But a used one cost much less than that, such as the 35k you mentioned.

Now because we have more foreign produced or imported 406 in Nigeria than the locally produced one by PAN, you will mostly find used ECUs and engine wiring harness of foreign 406 than PAN ones.

Now, if you care and handle a 406 well, you have nothing to worry about with prices of ECUs of PAN or foreign, because they were not made to fail unless you damage them by yourself. They last the lifespan of 406. People have covered about a million km mileages with their 406, with the same original engines, transmissions, Engine ECUs, etc. So, have no fear.

Ikenna

fauzi75:
Hello Mr. Lion King. I thank you for your obsevation and comments. I have attached pictures accordingly including an image of the lion when it first arrived last year.
My second number is 0805----- for the forum just in case. Thank you for understanding.

From the images of the lion you posted, the wiper stalk and engine bay fuse box suggest your Lion is not 2001, but a late D9 with full multiplexing.

Is the 406 PAN production?

I have added you to the WhatsApp Peugeot community. Thank you.

Ikenna

fauzi75:
Hello to all you lion den members and a special salutation and respect to the alpha lion Ikenna. He has created a thread that has grown out of a virtual environment and into the real world. His selflessness, passion and technical knowhow has given us courage not only to of n lions but to also helplessly love and respect the purring beast. Mr. Ikenna I say thank you. I have learnt a lot from this forum. I say thank you to all you awesome contributors who have kept the forum alive.
I own an EW10 406 2001 that I have driving for over a year now which was the reason i discovered this forum. It was an upgrade from my 306 (another lovely car). This car is the king of the road. It is agile, responsive steering control is top notch, it is surprisingly economical and a real joy to drive particularly long distance. I have not had any problem with my lion apart from the usual maintenance service or so I thought until my enlightenment from the forum:
1. My radio turns on and then goes off anytime I open the door (ref to the member whose fan starts) and I have to use code 00000 anytime I turn it on. The chunky control by the steering wheel does not work which is not surprising.
2. I had blown up a particular fuse about 3 times which stops the car from starting anytime that happens. In all the cases, the fuse was blown when I engage the reverse gear. A PP2000 scan after the first insident indicated that there are some permanent faults. They were cleared but the fuse blew twice after that.
3. There is this flexible part of the silencer that keeps bursting open. I replaced it twice until a third time when my replaced it with that of a VW golf. The lion has lost its growl but that net has not bursted since then.

I am new here but I am more than glad to discover this forum. I will appreciate your informed advice and comments. By the way, I live in Zaria Kaduna state. My number is 080----- for the whatsapp community. Thank you once again and keep the lions roaring.

Thank you so much for your compliment. I really appreciate. May God bless you.



Now, for your Lion's issues:

1. Wrong connection somewhere is making that happen. Are you sure what you have on that D9 is factory D9 Headunit (Radio)? Because D9 radio dont require any code to operate. The VIN is permanently stored in the radio which can only be changed with PP2000.

2. Just like above, only a wrong connection could make a fuse blow up twice within a short time.

3. You need to get a geniune 406 Flex, which appears you have not been buying.


I will add you to the group. Thank you.

Ikenna

Happy Easter everyone.

Quite a number of have joined the Lion's family after going through this thread, from calls, mails and messages I have been receiving. I am so happy and grateful to God that gave me the knowledge to touch you guys life positively. I am grateful to you guys too that patiently followed the thread and have learnt something good about Peugeots and how best to keep them healthy.

Well, for those who still plans to join the Lions family. From Lions Den, I wish you guys speedy heart desires, as we celebrate the Easter Sunday in Den.


Ikenna