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I would suggest you install thermostat in that cooling system, which I assume is absent/removed from the thermostat housing. The thermostat housing is that metal part where upper radiator hose is clamped on the engine side or where the upper radiator hose stopped on cylinder head (engine), which is shown in one of the engine bay pictures you posted.

If you are interested in installing the thermostat,I can get the factory opening temperature for you. Probably the one in my ZN3J may work in yours too.

Ikenna

skeletine:
Here are pictures of the engine bay.
I have replaced the contact set with electronic ignition and doormats have been replaced.
For the fact that the car was parked for years, almost all plastic /rubberized parts had worn out /lost shape so I had to replace them all. I also changed the the round twin headlamps to the single square you see here.

Yes, PAN SR basically have the double round headlights as standard.

From the engine bay pictures you posted, the cylinder head, intake manifold & Air filter are suggesting the engine is not 2.0, unless it was replaced at some point with 1.8 litre cylinder head. However, standard PAN SR had 1.8 litre engines, though were all XN engines as well.

If you want to enjoy better fuel economy and long engine life span, I would suggest you convert the radiator mechanical fan to electric fan. It's very easy and I can guide you. The mechanical fan bolted to that water pump pulley creates a lot of drag as acceleration increases on XN engines in Nigeria, which add heavy load on the engine and consume more fuel. Foreign 504s all had Viscous mechanical fan, not the bolt on type you have. The temperature sensor on the radiator can serve as a trigger for the fan and it works perfectly just like modern cooling system fans in newer Peugeots. It will also help the engine run at optimal temperature for less wear and tear. You will marvel at how less noisy the engine would become, when you remove that mechanical fan.

Ikenna

Raymie:
Its definetely not a GL or an import GR/SR. Its most likely a PAN GR/SR. Many 504s PAN or import did come with the chrome detailing on doors and front/rear screens up till the BestLine era. The foreign GR had the clock on the much darker dash, no head restraints and the door finishes were much firmer. Also the faux leather was different than @ OPs Owned both so I can tell the difference. Besides, the made in Nigeria is obvious on the rear screen sticker.

Not all foreign made 504s had that chrome on their windows. The GL & TI models had it, but L didn't. As for PAN 504s, especially the series 2, all SR models had it, GR didn't.

From pictures op uploaded in his first post, they are not enough to say it must not be GL. Dashboards and seats alone are not enough. Some GL (PAN) had similar front seats and people have in the past removed the GL dashboards and mounted the series II dashboards, just like the one in the pictures.

GL (especially foreign made) had low ground clearance, irrespective of Tyre size, unless the factory front and rear suspension springs have been replaced with PAN 504 springs (excluding PAN GL). You can also know a GL from inside the boot. GL boot is completely different from other models, including L model that is series 1. Also all GL had independent rear differential, drive shafts and CV joints and different rear shock absorbers which are pronounced without bending over to peep under the car. The PAN SR had rear live differential and no CV joints. Foreign made GL had rear brake discs, while PAN GL, SR, GR, etc, had rear drum brakes, including L.

Etc.

My point is, you can change certain things in GL to look like SR, but there are things that must give it away on the body or when looked at from outside, if its GL, but not the dashboard, doors, etc.

Ikenna

Siena:
It's not a GL. The GL was never fitted with this dash, this was fitted to the GR and SR.

Yes, the GL/TI dashboard is different from series 2 504s (SR, GR, etc). But he said the focus was restoration and upgrade (modifications). And since quite a number GL owners in Nigeria removed and mounted Series 2 (SR) dashboards in their GL, I couldn't rule it out until he said otherwise. For example, PAN 504s had no power steering, but TI had power steering. But he swapped in/ installed one now.

Some people back then considered GL dashboards as outdated and went on swapping in the "newer" model dashboards, which couldn't fit well since GL and SR bodies were completely different. Funny enough, the GL dashboards looks better and very unique, especially the way the central vent comes out and goes in.

Another thing I found that suggested it was not GL were the door mats. The GL door mats were different and last forever "almost".

However, the front seats of this one are series 2 seats, while the foreign produced GL & TI seats were unique and completely different. But the GL produced by PAN had the SR seats (series 2 504s), just like Op 504.

We are still waiting for him to upload the engine bay picture, to know if its GL XN engine or the 1.8 litre engine.

Ikenna

skeletine:
This 1979 504 car has recently been restored and upgraded to 2015 standards with upgrades in power steering, air conditioning, electricals and sound system, me likey .

That's great. Congratulations!

What power steering system did you install? The 505 or 504 TI PAS system?

You can also upgrade to power windows, both front and rear door windows.

From the external door glasses chrome detailing, it means its either a GL or SR model, unless you fitted them in.

What engine is inside? XN1 or XN1A?

As for the body, its job well done.

Ikenna

nurey:
500k is low, but the tokunbo cars in that variant I have seen are
1. peugeot 306 estate/wagon/saloon but stay away from the 1.5 or 1.6L engine cause the part are scarce, the 2.0L engine will do fine cause it's identical/same to/as 406 engine
.

If she is interested in Peugeot brand, she can get a Nigerian used Peugeot 206 in very good condition with her budget.

She can also get a Nigerian used phase 1 Peugeot 406 (D8) in very good shape even at 400-450k.

Ikenna

obua:
Nigerian used Peugeot like 307, 206, and 406 usually have lots of nagging electrical issues which will stress the living daylight out of a young lady. This lady I guess is less than 25 years

And that's all you got?

Lets look at your earlier post with the recent one here:

obua:
Buy Toyota corolla 1992 and above or honda civic 2002 and above or Toyota Carina,corona ,AVENSIS of 1993 and above. You can squeeze and buy a Golf 3 tokunbo.
Also you can get a Mazda 323 told for that rate.
Pls don't go for rover, ford or used Peugeot, because you are too young for that stress.

Categorically stating "Used Peugeots" & now "Nigerian used Peugeots" stress their owners and not good for young ones is quite a big minsinformation to innocent public. You could have at least tried explaining to missbizzy and others what made you say Nigerian used Peugeot cars have "lots of nagging electrical issues".

You see, while some Nigerians are busy looking for every opportunity to abuse their Lions electrics and mechanicals, others are forever grateful for having good time of their lives for owing these same Lions some are busy complaining about. People always bring their newly purchased direct foreign used Peugeot cars and Nigerian used Peugeot cars to bless for them. While some were abused, I do marvel at near perfcet state or shape some of them bought as Nigerian used were. Their electrics were intact, just like mine, an indication that Nigerians have started to appreciate what they have and keep away from abusing their Lions by retaining their factory connections, settings, etc.

If i may ask, what exactly do people expect when they start cutting, butchering and bypassing every thing that looks like wire in their lions, as designed by car manufacturer? Do they expect a happy face from the poor cars after all that, right? Even if they try some of these abuse on other brands and get away with it, sorry, not Peugeot. Peugeots are designed for people that love what they have.

The same people that keep their lions electrics intact are same Nigerians, used, driven, diagnose and repair in same Nigeria by same Nigerian mechanics. Funny enough, its way cheaper to own a Lion used as Peugeot recommends, than the costly way of owning an abused one. So when they cut and throw out the engine cooling system thermostat, when they bypass factory connection or abuse radiator fans to spin constantly with ignition on or engine running, when they mess with wires that BSI unit in Lions monitors, they should know what they are doing to their poor Lions before they go out complaining "how God delivered them from nightmare called Lion or how Peugeot is no go area".

As far as I am concerned, missbizzy gender and age is irrelevant to me, because no one deserves a stressful live. Any car abused will give the owner constant sad face until abuse on the car are reversed. Just like others pointed out in the thread, let her find someone good in detecting true current state of cars electrics, mechanicals and body to inspect whatever car/brand she ends up choosing. Because if you cannot detect a Lion with an abused electrics, I can.

Avoid setting limits to your happiness by saying No to good life. There are Nigerian Used Peugeot cars in very good shapes out there which you can get, if thats your desire.

Ikenna

kingreign:
this is a clean Nigerian owned classic. that 505 V6 stick im sure isproud to be a lion and a fulfilled lion at that.

Yes, I am so happy and grateful for owning that Peugeot 505 V6 stick. So much love that Lion. Because aside his looks, power, attitude on the road and strong satisfaction of actualising ownership of a dream car, the Lion came into my life and taught me something that transformed me to something big.

When some Nigerians are busy fussing about or mocking classic cars, I just laugh at how much people are missing good life, so much.

Ikenna

obua:
Pls don't go for used Peugeot, because you are too young for that stress.

Imagine that!

What made you say that? Could you elaborate?

Ikenna

Rapmoney:
When last did you see somebody buying any of them?

A 1976 Peugeot 504 V6 Cabriolet was sold in USA early this year about $18,500.00 USD, which cost more than some recent cars brought in as tokunbos.

Oh! I purchased my 1986 Peugeot 505 V6 stick N850,000.00 in year 2010 and really love him.

Ikenna

skylinegarage:
. finally Vehicle fuel consumption has nothing to do with tranny!!

It does.

Ikenna

oba009:
Please is Peugeot 406 with 16 valve, manual reliable over EW10 engine?

All Peugeot engines are reliable and durable. It depends on how you use the lion. How you love a lion or abuse one determines the lifespan.

Ikenna

ikp120:
Just see this cute 607 ride a human being is selling for 480k.

https://www.nairaland.com/2530379/peugeot-607-fairly-used-2002#37337750


I wonder why. I have seen at least 5 adverts of 607 at give away prices both on nl and car ads websites

The current state of a Car's electricals and mechanicals determines price of a Car been sold, not just the body. If you abuse a Car, the selling price will drop. It is that easy and simple to understand.

What you give a Peugeot Car is what he or she gives back to you.

Ikenna

Barns86:
I just got my Lion. It's awesome! My wife & I have always dreamt & prayed of this. I Cant thank God enough. Please how can I know the specification of my Lion? Anyone to help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Congrats! I happy for you guys for choosing good life.

To know your Lion specifications, send the Lion VIN to my phone number: 08052811236, as SMS or WhatsApp message. Though, I would prefer the WhatsApp message, so that i can easily you the details via WhatsApp, unless you want me to post it here.

The VIN starts with VF3xxxx. It must be 17 digit.

Once again, congratulations!

Ikenna

Siena:
[color=Blue]Good day, Ikenna! We're all well, thanks. How are you and the Roaring Lions? Haven't seen you here for some time.[/color]

I am doing great, including my Lions and loved ones.

Yes, I have not been active in Car Talk because Peugeot owners all over the world now need my assistance, including my Lion Community and other good life I now enjoy as well. So I have shifted focus, but I do visit the Car Talk once in a while.

Ikenna

Acheme86:
Hello IK, how can I get a very clean 505 Evolution.. I like the type on your profile. Like how much should I budget for such? It would be my first car!

Thanks.

The one on my profile picture is 505 V6, not Evolution. 505 Evolution is Nigerian specs. However, you can still get a clean one.

Ikenna

I actually drive/own a Peugeot 505. And you know the most interesting part? I love him so much! He is my Baby! And he has come to stay with me for good.

Ikenna

Emvfridaah:
how much can 406 prestige go for and as a beginner, is 406 good for me?

Yes, Peugeot 406 is a very nice car. You will enjoy one. I am enjoying mine and love him.

Ikenna

Siena:
[color=Blue]There is also an Audi / Volkswagen Whatsapp group.[/color]

Long time. I Trust you and your family are doing great. Good morning.

Ikenna

phazotron:
Any admin who sees this thread should add me to the group my numba is 08154744806

People I add in The Lion Community on WhatsApp have love and passion for Peugeot & Citroën brands/cars. If you don't love Lions, you can't be in the community. In fact, you have to be a Lion or Lioness to join. So its not really about joining because you want to discuss cars. The community is strongly growing positively and I am so grateful to God for that.

Ikenna

slinkky:
Please Ikenna351 what could be the cause of my peugeot 307 1.6 manual gear 1and 2 not engaging.

Check the gear selectors. If intact, then it could internal gearbox issue.

Ikenna

laudate:
Does anyone know if there are there any good grade-1 Tokunbo Peugeot SUV models for sale in Lagos?

Thanks.

You can look for Peugeot 4007. Its CUV though.

Ikenna

swagifted:
usually the car saves more fuel on highway than city terrain

Yes, it does.

2 weekends ago, I did a trip with the same Lion, Peugeot 505 V6, and it consumed about 15 - 18 litres for 220 km, for a 1986 production. I so much love the Lion. Very aggressive and fun to drive in highway.

Ikenna

gabng:
But from discussions here on nairaland it looks like the availability of parts for the EW12 is an issue. I am trying to avoid V6 since its not synonymous with fuel efficiency. Also whats your take/opinion on the ZF HP20 auto transmission reliability wise? Also whats the engine capacity for the EW12 407? 2.0 or 2.2 litre?

Thanks again for your help.

You have a choice to choose to learn from this thread about Peugeot or choose to misinformation from other sources. I wonder since when EW12 parts became hard to locate? What parts exactly? Engine monitoring sensors/components or the engine itself? If you really want to learn about these Lions, then go through all my posts and threads on Peugeot cars, both on Nairaland and other Peugeot forums.

HP20 is the same auto transmission mounted in 406 phase 1 (D8) V6 with auto transmissions. The recommended ATF is ESSO LT71141 or Mobil LT71141.

EW12 engine is the same in all Peugeot cars with EW12 engine and the cubic capacity is 2.2 litres.

Ikenna

gabng:
I mean Peugeot diesel cars like the HDI engines on the 407.


Also is there any fuel efficient Peugeot 407 petrol with automatic transmission?

All Peugeot 407 are fuel efficient, irrespective of fuel type and transmission. It also depends on your definition of fuel efficiency and usage. Be it diesels/HDIs, EW7, EW10, EW12 or ES9A.

If you interested in Peugeot 407 auto transmission with petrol engine, go for One with EW12 engine or ES9A (V6) engine. The EW12 auto transmission will have ZF HP20 auto tyranny (4-speed), while one with ES engine will have AM6 (6-speed) auto tranny.

Good morning.

Ikenna

Ziggyzito:
thanks a lot! Where can I get one? And how much would it cost?

I know someone that sells it. Contact me off the forum to link you with the person.

Ikenna

bisiswag:
@Ikenna351,so sorry to derail frm d original topic' PLS just a quick one' Yest my car(Pontiac 05 model) was almost stolen @ d market' both car locks were damaged' I need suggestions on hw to go abt it,fixing,and cost of d whole tin' If u have no idea maybe u can direct me to a link' have tried to look for one but didn't stumble on any' Thanks much'

I hope you were able to fix your car? I specialise in Peugeot though.

Ikenna

Ziggyzito:
Hey guys!! Mr Ikenna, I would love to know the possibility of changing the factory fitted cassette system that came with my 2003 406 prestige to a factory peugeot CD loader?

Yes, its not a big deal. It's done easily. After you swap it in, it will start working immediately, but you need a PP2000 to programme it, otherwise it gives a beep sound anytime you switch on the head unit (radio), even though it will work.

Ikenna

fanodun:
Good morning Mr Ikenna.
Please i need your help...
My 407 lion last week started jerking furiously, and would refuse to accelerate while in hold-ups motion, but would become normal after i restart the engine ,these furious jerking and loss of acceleration stopped after we grinded the top cylinder,but the car still does hard starts,jerks mildly while am in hold ups and loses power intermittently while am driving below 30kph.
please help ..

Thanks
Fanodun

I believe we have met already after this post?

Ikenna