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FWD: Front Wheel Drive car.

RWD: Rear Wheel Drive car.

Ikenna.

Billyonaire: None, go for a 4WD

4WD or AWD is not part of the discussion. Lets stick to the topic.

Ikenna.

Find everything you want to know about Volvo on the link below:

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/volvo/


Ikenna.

bendike: From personal experience, there is no comparism. The japanese cars are better built, more durable. Performance wise in terms of speed etc, you could give that to the europeans.
In the 90s i bought a 740i bmw. Same year just months between i bought a lexus ls400, both v8. Till date i still have both cars, i have only changed break pads and the regular oil change on the lexus. With the bmw, i had to almost monthy buy fuel pump from coscharis. Fews days after changing the pump it starts a wining sound until it packs up. While tthe bmw was more interesting and macho to drive, the lexus has probably covered 10 times the milage my bmw did.
The picture i am attqching should explain the rest.

I dont know about BMW, but i do know that in those days, almost all Euro and American cars had two fuel pumps: in-tank pump & external/main pump. If the in-tank pump fails, the main pump will still run the car. But it will die quicker and the car may give fuel starvation symptom (car stalling as soon as fuel goes below half tank). But not in all cases.

Also, when the in-tank pump fails, the external pump buzzing sound will increase (which may be probably the whinning sound you were hearing). It means the external pump was over working and would die very quiclkly. So as long as you dont replace the failed in-tank pump, you are just wasting your money replacing the main pump failing on you, when the issue has not been addressed.

Too bad that Choscaris couldnt find the root cause of the pump failure. After all, i took my car to ASD motors, Peugeot dealership, here in Abuja, to fix an injection issue with my car. They told me it was out of their league. I brought my car back home and got it fixed myself. Go figure.

Best way of keeping a Euro car in good condition is by understand your car. Forget what your mechanic is telling you. Study your car, pay attention to every detail and you will able to know when something goes wrong and what caused it.

Finally, as far as Euro car is concerned, preventative maintenance is what keeps them running, as long as the owner wants. Dont let them breakdown on you. Most of the components would you give you sign before they give up. If you ignore those signs, you will pay the price. And always make use of your owners manual. Your car will never go wrong if you keep to the instructions on the manual.

Ikenna.

For those who dont know what understeer and oversteer means, find the meaning below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understeer_and_oversteer

Ikenna.

benzion72: Volvo lack fuel economy. I remembered as a gradute trainee I bought a Nissan Primera and a colleague bought Volvo we both leave in egbeda side in Lagos and work on marina street. If I bought 1500 fuel then I will use it Monday to Friday with my Primera but my colleague 1500 fuels will be finished by Tuesday evening. Maybe cause it is always too heavy with a very long chasis lol

Take a step back, go through what you stated above and see if it make sense, even to you? Even a primary School pupil would be specific when describing a car his teacher drives. Even as a kid back then, I knew about Volvo 244, 240, 740, 760, etc. If you could know the model of your Nissan, then its too childish to state here just "Volvo", as if they don't have city cars, V6 or I6 cars. Are you telling us their fuel consumption are supposed to be the same? In that case, all Nissans fuel consumption should also be the same with Primera. Meaning, even Altima, Maxima, Murano, Quest, Xterra, etc, should have the same fuel consumption with Primera. Should we talk about Xterra then? That owners complain and regard as one of the most Gas guzzler SUV on Earth. Google it and find out, if you doubt.

Next time, try and be objective.

Ikenna

FWD vs RWD:


1. Which of them to you is better than the other?

2. Which of the two gives more driving pleasure?

3. Which of them is fun to put stunts on the wheels?

4. Which of the two is more prone to oversteer or understeer?

5. If understeer, which one is more predictable?


The floor is open.


Ikenna.

mccoyab: Pls I need help. My aunt is madly inluv wit peugeot 406, sh currently uses a mercedes c-class 1998. She wants a 406 prestige automatic and I'v heard n read d automatic has gear box problem,help...!!! Do we go for auto? Do we order from overseas or go to cotonou?

https://www.nairaland.com/1003701/peugeot-thread-peugeot-community


Ikenna.

ikeyman00: @@@@
ikenna


well the only reason u get to see cv wahala a lot in naija is i put it down to bad used parts and knowning the sensitive of these area an average driver doesnt care when the rubber boots breaks which get contaminated with debris and rust

this is what u get then!

and mind u as for ur everyday drive thing mind u honda halla still kick around in the country; i still remember seeing one in lokoja high way flying like a saucer in 2011

I wasnt referring to the CV (constant velocity) joint, but what Peugeot calls front wheel swivel. Generally, its called ball joint, whicle Nigerian mechanics call it bore joint.

The ball joint Honda issue is peculiar to Accord 2001 (Babyboy) & Accord 2004 (EOD). If they could pull out on a smooth road, what happens then when am on highspeed with one and jump a deep pothole and it decides to pull out at that time? No be mortuary be dat? I want and need a car that will be strong and rugged enough to withstand the condition of our highways, no matter how hard i push them on such roads. Of course, you cant swerve out of all the potholes on highspeed. Some, you will have no option than to drive on them on such speed. What happens when you jump them depends on the car and probably how good you are behind the wheels. But if your ball joint pulls out, even James Bond cannot stop the car from swerving into the bush. What happens after depends on how good your God loves you or still wants you to live.

Ikenna.

@ Ikeyman00,

Honda is another good Japs i forgot to mention. I have driven Accord V6 2001 (Babyboy) & Accord V6 2004 (EOD). Very quick cars, except if one can live with their front swivel/ball joint and auto transmission issues.

If i were to choose between Honda Accord and Toyota Camry of any model year, I would pick Accord without a blink. But then, considering how hard i push my car on highway, i wouldnt want to end up with a car that its wheel ball joint will give up on high speed while jumping potholes on our highways.

The truth is, Japs cars are reliable cars, when carefully handled or used and when well maintained. When used as daily driver, they hardly give the owners headaches. But once you start pushing them around anyhow like one can do to a Euro car and get away with it, they will start falling apart very quickly. They are just everyday car for non petrolheads who are after point A to point B. But may God help you when the follow come parts starts failing, the mechanics and parts sellers will now be the people to enjoys your salary or monthly income, since you will have to be replacing those parts every now and then. You can ask Toyota owners how many times they replace their shock absorbers in a year. Some dont even bother replacing them anymore.

Ikenna.

Happy to hear that. Also happy that you sorted out the issue by yourself. Congrats!

Ikenna.

Now my own turn.

From what I have gathered here, I think reliability, durability & performance of Euro/American vs Asian cars depends on the car owner or the driver.

RELIABILITY:
A Euro car owner may see his car as a reliable one, while a japs or Asian car owner sees it as a nightmare that must be avoided at all cost. A Euro car owner, who may have to order a part from outside to replace a failed component, may not see it as an issue or termed it unreliable, even if it takes it days or weeks to put the car back on the road and continue the fun where it stopped, as long as he is certain that it will take him years or decades to replace that part again. But he may see a Jap car that visits clown workshop every now and then, for a particular part to be changed over and over again, for failing every week, a month or every quarter, as unreliable. The same way, a Japs owner would find it an omen to have a car that stays in a garage a week or more before it get fixed; would prefer a car that he/she would have to spend a penny to replace a particular constant failing part, even if he/she has to be resuming work at clowns/mechanics workshop every day to replace one failed part or the other before ending up at office. So to him or her, as long as he/she is always behind the wheels and the car is always moving, whether from home to mechanic every day or weekend, he regards it "A reliable car".

For someone like me, I would find a car I don't get to be opening the bonnet to do something once in a while, as a boring one. I cant live with such a car. Even when nothing is wrong, I would always want to check to see if I must find something that needed attention. I just love working on my car. So, any car that refuses to give me a reason to open the hood will definitely seize to me mine soon. Its not for me.

PERFORMANCE:
There was this 2006 Toyota Corolla, Sports model "S" (American spec) of a cousin I used to drive then in Abuja. A nice car. Average quickness for its engine and body size. It was supposed to be a sports version of the Corolla of that model year. Unfortunately, the car lacks 4 wheel disc brake. The rear brake is drum. Who in his right senses would install a drum brake in a car and call it sports version? How would I push such a car hard as I do with mine since it lacked a matching brake? Why cant they just get something right? So I never bothered to push it hard on Abuja expressways, since I wont like to miss my next birthday.

There was this Lexus of a colleague of mine (not sure of the model year, but it was the '90s model). A V6 one. Whenever I was the one driving, the car would feel heavy, meaning good for highway. Good steering wheel feedback. But then, the most boring car I have ever driven! Am not joking. Couldn't tell if it was because it was auto tranny or just because the car lacked soul. To a point, I was like "no thank you". I preferred sitting as a passenger than driving some tortoise. A durable car though, since the odometer was more than 300k miles, still on the original engine and the body still intact, no rust.

Toyota Camry 2003 I4 (Big for Nothing). I have driven the car twice. Not too quick, but ok. Very roomy. Enough leg room space. Unfortunately, the most uninspiring dashboard I have ever seen.

Have driven a lot of Nissan cars. The most quickest Japs I have ever driven. Even their smaller cars are quick too. But when it comes to putting stunts on their wheels, they start misbehaving. Typical japs! But I believe Skyline would be the best of them. I respect Nissan for producing that Beast.

Benz W124 (V-boot). Mehnn! Am not a Benz fan, but the very first day I drove that car, I was so impressed, even though it was an I4 (facelifted), very sluggish in movement though (thanks to auto transmission). But the car was awesome. The stability of the car on high speed was something else. The steering feel? Ahhh! Love the smoothness as it steered the wheel. Even though it was an old school; even though it wasn't a quick car, but I enjoyed every bit of moment I was behind that wheel. Well engineered car!

Its obvious that a V6 Benz, Audi, Peugeot or BMW its never the same with a V6 Toyota, Honda or Nissan of the same model year cars. A japs I4 & V6 usually have the same simple electrics and mechanicals, except the engines of course. But for the 4 mentioned Euro cars, their V6s or V8s have different more complex electrics and mechanicals with their I4 counterparts: Different suspensions (electronically controlled, etc), different Power assisted steering, advanced complex electronics to enhance the performance, etc.



DURABILITY:
Every car can last as long as the owner wants it. Japs car can last for 40 years and above, with the original engine. Likewise the Euro or American ride. It all depends on how good the owner is with maintenance, style of driving and abuse.

Though, an Asian car cannot be driven or pushed as hard as most Euro cars, if the owner wants it to last that long. Make that mistake and her days will be numbered. They are deigned to be softly handled or driven

It appears most Nigerians do not know when there vehicles are faulty or not. You hear everyday "this brand is reliable, this brand drives forever". But then I come out everyday, see people's cars puffing out all kinds of colors of smoke from their exhaust. As long as its moving and its not stalling or jerking, the car is fine.




So, there you have mine.

Ikenna

yungboss: BMW is an example...

Yes, like BMW & Benz, you can say that, including some other Euro cars. They value their loyal fans, by not giving up on some good qualities the fans enjoy in their products (which other brands lack), thereby retaining them.

Ikenna.

platinumricky: I am not necessarily a japanese car fan, i luv the 3 pointed star (mercedes) with a passion. There was once upon a time when mercedes was the standard bearer for reliability/durability, when their cars were built without compromise...the W201 series(190) and W124 (v boot) are good examples - the w201 was launched in 1982 ,31yrs ago, its platform was the basis of the w124. Many examples of these two can be found running in pristine order. Everything changed when the 'accountants' started making boardroom decisions and decided that their cars were overengineered and started cutting corners- the first car to reflect this change was the W210 E-class in 96 (the rust bucket on wheels). Every other model launched between this dark era (1996-2004) in mb history suffered from shoddy build quality . MB has been making a lot of effort since 2007 to improve their reliability/build quality - and their newer offerings reflect this. The japanese brands have come a long way and should be commended...its only a matter of tym b4 the south koreans catch up (their interior fit/finish still has question marks).

Not just Benz. Everyother brand has lost it. Every one of them was after reduction of cost of production against the qualities known for. Some left the drive configuration (RWD) they are known for, like Peugeot and Volvo, and switched to FWD that cost less to design and produce. Ask most of the old Peugeot fans why they left that brand, they will tell you because they switched from RWD to FWD full time, after 505 production stopped.

But then, they acted according to the market demands: more toys. Market/people prefers cars with gadgets/toys allover than reliability and durability. So they gave us what we wanted and everyone was happy, and they kept it going. Meaning, more toys, more plastics. And more toys would require complex electrics to function, hence, electric nightmares in newer cars.

So, i dont really blame the car manufacturers. Its what the market wanted that they are producing for us. Check out the car journalist articles or reviews on new cars. They compare newly lauched cars with another with the one that has more or better toys than the other. Any car with better or more toys wins the best car. So what do you expect the manufacturers to do, since people choose cars to buy from such reviews.

Very few brands are trying to maintain some of the few qualities they were known for, back in the '70s & '80s in the midst of the plastic competition.

Ikenna.

@ Platinumricky,

I like your points and how you state them in this debate. But this your "Euro cars fire thing" no follow at all.

Are you trying to tell us that only Euro or American Cars suffer fire incidents while in motion without any crash? What do you have to say about these below:

http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-recalls-7-5-million-cars-for-door-fires/

http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Karl.Malone.Toyota.Albuquerque.NM.505-294-8800/review/read?cid=955390

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street-experiences/57698-toyota-corolla-flames.html

My Point is, you cant isolate it to a particular brand or region. Even here in Nigeria, we see cars of various brands going up in flames while in motion, which could be caused by parts failure, fuel leak, mechanics mistakes, etc.

So, that point no follow.

Ikenna

ikeyman00: FACT

euro cars get more expensive to maintain when it start to age!

esply 3 lions!

citron nko hm

By 3 Lions, you mean Peugeot? Can you back up your claims with facts.

Ikenna.

nony30: Hey Ikenna,‎​dat was harsh and uncalled for!I just expressed an opinion.what happened τ̲̅ȍ freedom of speech?!Can ‎u compare head lamps of a modern car τ̲̅ȍ ‎​dat of an 80s car?Even if d older ones have stronger bodies ,wat of power steering and other gadgets that make driving pleasurable.Going back τ̲̅ȍ ‎​dat ur december trip I guess ‎u would have arrived in good tyme with a 407 lion.like I said before •̸№ insult or show off meant τ̲̅ȍ lovers of such models,I just tink d more modern d car d easier and more pleasurable d drive with our crazy traffic situation.

There are two groups of people in life: those that get carried away by beauties and those that value quality. Am not among the former. So I don't give a damn about how a headlights looks, as long as they are bright enough and look solid.

Do you really want us to compare the newer Peugeots to my '87 505 V6? Do you really want us to compare performance/road handling of RWD with FWD cars?

You said what about the power steering and other gadgets? By gadgets you mean toys? Fine. For a start, 505 V6 has a better Power assisted steering than that one in your I4 406. The best steering so far, which you can only find in V6 Peugeots, known as Variable ratio steering. So if your 406 is not V6, then your PAS is not half as good as 505 V6 PAS. Not even close. Doubt me? Google it and find out.

About toys you mentioned, 505 V6 comes with auto climate control, even better than one in 406, to me. The windows of 505 V6 are not meant to come down. As soon as ignition comes on, the ventilation fan switches on until you switch off the ignition. You either use outside air if cold enough, use inside air if warm enough, use heater if too cold, or switch on the AC compressor for cold air if too warm or hot for you). Is it remote key lock that it doesn't have or what? Yes, newer cars may have more toys and so what? So am I buying a car for toys or what? smh!


You said if I had used 407, I would have arrived Abuja earlier in my last Xmas trip with my 505 V6? Are you that serious? I hope this is not a joke. I set off from Enugu at 6.20 am and arrived Abuja before 12pm and got to my house at 12.35pm. Maybe, you need to tell me how many people that have done such trips with their cars in 6hrs (Enugu-Abuja).

See, I wanted to ignore this post, but the last poster pushed me to do this. Your comments have shown that you are just new with cars; I mean, trying to show off. I have been there and past that level long time ago.

Am sorry, I created this thread and didn't discriminate any product of Peugeot. Here is the Nairaland Peugeot family. Any Lion owner has every right here to talk about or discuss his Lion. If you cant deal with it, find yourself another thread and do so please. Probably you want a 404, 504 or 505 owner to be so ashamed to admit that he owns such a car, belong here or contribute here. I wont allow it. You can hate me for that.

Visit other online French car forums and you will find out that they even discuss more of older Peugeots than the newer ones, since they value those ones more than the newer ones, even though they still own and have the newer ones in their garages. Have you a look at Aussiefrogs? Most of the thread you will see there are about 205, 404, 405, 504 & 505, even 403. I have a friend a friend in Australia that owns 406 V6, 504, 505 & 403. He is restoring the 403 now as a project car. Every time am discussing with him, he only talk about his 504 & his 403 project car. Do you think we all are richer than them? Even Americans have a dedicated forum for solely 505, where am very active too. In the other post above, I posted a link of someone in US that owns two 505 V6s. You think he didn't see other cars to buy as a 2nd car, yet he bought another 505 v6 to make it 2? What was he deriving from the 1st one that he couldn't resist that made him buy the 2nd one? You can actually ask him that by yourself. Go back to the link I provided, register and ask him those questions, if you are interested.


Finally, please, some people buy cars because of the performance of such cars, not because they are after mobility only. Try and respect that. Also, that something is newer doesn't mean that its better than the one it replaced, in all ramifications. I have driven 406 a lot, so I know what am saying. Am working on replacing the 605 V6 I have sold with 406 V6 D9. Because my research on the car showed it got the power and performance I want/need. That's how I choose or select my cars. I understand that everyone cannot be a petrolhead, which obviously you are not. So no matter how hard I explain, you wont understand why I chose my 505 V6 over newer cars. You just wont understand.

Ikenna

fyneboi79: @nony30,‎u should know •̸№t every one can afford the type of vehicle ‎u r talking about and should •̸№t condemn wat they drive as its still a lion •̸№ matter the year of production.but notwithstanding Ikenna ‎u went too far in ur explanation and don't have τ̲̅ȍ get so hostile @ least one day ‎u will drive such cars too and feel d difference of driving with pleasure and suffering in pleasure.

What the Hell is that suppose to mean "driving with pleasure and suffering in pleasure"? And what the Hell does "..at least one day u will drive such cars too and feel the difference" means? So you mean I couldn't afford a newer car which was why I bought the 505 V6? Do you even know how much I bought that 505 V6? Do you know what it took me to find that car? Does it look like a Nigerian used car? Hmm! For your information, that 505 V6 cost me more than 800k to purchase.

Do you have any idea how many newer cars I have driven, used or handled, which I could afford before I own that 505 V6? And even when I bought my 2nd car, a newer car to the 505 v6, 605 v6, I still went ahead, sold it and kept back the 505 v6. In as much the 605 V6 was newer to 505 V6, it was in no way a match to the driving pleasure I derive from my 505 V6. Not even close!

Next time, don't talk nonsense because you think you know something you are not sure of. A car expert advice indeed! Very annoying.

Ikenna

German Vs Japanese Cars; Euro/American Vs Asian Cars (Reliability, Durability & performance)

German vs Japanese Cars: What made you think one is more reliable or durable than the other? Out of experience, journalist, trend, propaganda,etc?

Likewise, Euro or American vs Asian Cars: reliability & durability. Which one would you like to own or stick with, as long as you can afford it(them). What are your reasons.

Also, which of them do you think performs better than the other.

Please, do remember that reliability and durability don't exactly mean the same. State which one is reliable or durable more than the other, to you.

Ikenna.

Two days ago was 30 years of the Peugeot 205: 1983 - 1998 (5.3 million units produced).

Will Peugeot ever get back it lost glory? Find link below:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1251538&mid=275517&i=0&nmt=RE%3A+30+years+of+the+Peugeot+205&mid=275517




Ikenna.

Ovo Close: Yea. I was searching the site for a BMW mechanic and this was the closest hit. so imagine my disappointment at all the self professed experts.

Disappointment? What are you doing in this section then? This section is not meant for people like you please. Keep searching for BMW mechanic online and stay away from here.

If you dont know the purpose of creating this section in the first place, all you needed to have done was to ask, than those nonsense you said.

By the way, make sure you dont come back someday to ask for solutions to issues to your car. After all, the BMW mechanics are online.

Ikenna.

Hi house,

Below is a link to a forum, where am trying to help a fellow Lion that owns two 505 V6 in US, in troubleshooting 2 of his V6 that have refused to start, Nigeria. Even though it appears no house member here owns 505 V6, but you may have one or two things to learn about Peugeot electrics or EFI system, incase you start experiencing such symptoms with your lion.

http://www.505turbo.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2021-v6-problems/page-3


Ikenna.

tundesto: How can one differentiate between the engines of a Peugeot 406 2.0 HPi/HDi from ordinary Peugeot 406 2.0? Because dealer may want to sell the latter as the former to unsuspecting buyers.

We have treated this before here. Find the engines images in the link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/973041/peugeot-406-ew10-engine-against#11249041

The HDI & HPI will be boldly stamped/engraved on the engines plastic covers, unless the dealer purposely remove them. In that case, don't buy one that doesn't have that cover, since another cover (like EW10) cannot fit in on HPI or HDI engine, I believe.

Ikenna.

Tips on diagnosing & fixing 406 D8 Petrol engine (Excluding V6) running and starting problems: Stalling, Rough/harsh gear changing (manual only) and high idle symptoms. Find link below:

http://www.406oc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3489

Hope we find it helpful. It also includes D9 with XU10 engines.

Ikenna.

Find all 206, 307, 406, 407, 607 & 508 models mpg or fuel consumption below:

http://www.car-emissions.com/cars/model/peugeot/406+Saloon

http://www.car-emissions.com/cars/model/peugeot/206+SW

http://www.car-emissions.com/cars/model/peugeot/307

http://www.car-emissions.com/cars/model/peugeot/607

http://www.car-emissions.com/cars/model/peugeot/407+SW



You can also find the fuel consumption of other Lions, no matter the engine type or size there.

Ikenna

NOIBMUUL: I know the basics not the details. Why won't I know my plate number (as someone opined), engine capacity, transmission oil, tyre size? Even the sizes of my break pads, radiator fan belt and wheel ball joint I know. Thanks to our Nigerian road anyway. However, I still repeat, we don't need to know the details.

And what is not basic about knowing the hp of your engine? What is not basic about knowing engine torque of your engine? Are you saying car configuration (FWD, RWD or AWD) is not something 0ne must know buying choosing the car to purchase? Are you saying knowing the number of cylinders in my car is not a basic thing I should know before i even thought of buying the car? Seriously, am I talking to a fellow man here or some primary school pupil? Even some ladies I have met in car talk here know all these already about there cars and my fellow man is saying what? Unless you are truly underage, otherwise, shame don dey catch me make women no see your position here. Guy, Its very shameful!

Ikenna

NOIBMUUL: Go and sit down somewhere. People have different interests and passions. I might be driving a car because it's a cheaper option for me but must I be interested in it! While will I bother myself with car details when other areas in my life need my interest and attention. Yes, I need to know the basics but not the details. People know in details about clothes, some about the environment, others about finance, more about music, some about fine and a handful about women! And every 'expert' in these areas can give you tons of reasons why these areas are significant in your lives; even more than cars!

So relax OP, we don't need to know the details. The basics will suffice. Thanks.

The other day, someone approached me that he had found a clean 406 (D8) to buy. He went on to say it was an American spec. I quickly told him USA & Canada never got 406. That the last Peugeots sold US & Canada were 405 & 505, before Peugeot finally left US & Canada market in 1992 or so. This guy started shouting that "I TOO Know" will kill me one day. That the seller was a friend too, so that he believed him. "After all, how much do you know about cars sef!", he said. He went on and mentioned the location of the car, for me to go and find out how I have shamed myself before him. I swallowed the insult and kept quiet. Later in the day, I decided to go and see the vehicle "the American wonders" that brought all these. Lo and behold! It was just not a Euro spec as expected, but a converted RHD to LHD. "Since when did US started driving RHD?", I asked myself. Well, I didn't bother to go back to the ignorant guy. Of course, he had made his choice to be a fool. I never bothered to find out if he eventually purchased the car. After all, it was an "American spec 406". Isnt that what he wanted?

@ NOIBMUUL,

So knowing your vehicle engine size is left for the expert? So knowing if what is under your vehicle bonnet is Naturally Aspirated Engine or Turbo engine is left for the expert? Some of us don't even deserve to own a car, honestly, even though we can afford them.

So knowing my shoe size is for fashion expert? So knowing the LED screen size I intend buying is for the expert? So knowing the operating system of your laptop is for the IT expert? Hmm!

Ikenna

NOIBMUUL: I'm sure I'm speaking for others. We don't need to know th details.

I shake my head for you!

Ikenna.

Post again nonsense here and you have yourself banned.

Try me!

Moderator.