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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 6:20am On Nov 23, 2015

IlekeHD:
Awwww, sound so sad. <virtual hug>

I lost a friend too and it contributed to my doubt in God. It's always the good ones that go. It's crushing! I was angry, mad and scared.

Take comfort in the fact that Eledumare [Yoruba god] is out there and watching over us. Eleda wa, ori wa, n so wa.

I'm really sorry about your experience.

I know that feeling, o ye Olorun sha. O seun pupo. Adura mi sibesibe ni wipe ki Olorun maa fi iso e so wa. Okan mi gbogbe gidi gan.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 6:02am On Nov 23, 2015

IlekeHD:
Quite perfectly. She's just misunderstood, I'm sure she's a nice person offline.

With her, you'll laugh a lot and be happy.

She's stubborn, independent, and well...... anyway.... you have to make compromises on cultured and peace of mind.

@bolded, Are you a theist?

As a Yoruba person, I kind of ni igbagbo ninu Olorun, sugbon sha, mi o wa religious at all. And due to the circumstance of the death of my lady, my doubt kind of grown big, because she was a very religious person, and has brought me to praying again. We prayed together in the night prior to the day of her sudden and unexpected death.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 5:46am On Nov 23, 2015

IlekeHD:
Quite perfectly. She's just misunderstood, I'm sure she's a nice person offline.

With her, you'll laugh a lot and be happy.

She's stubborn, independent, and well...... anyway.... you have to make compromises on cultured and peace of mind.

@bolded, Are you a theist?

I think I'd wanna go the Egba road again, because of the one that stole my heart. Iku bola je. Iku se ika fun mi gan. I don't think tpiah and I are compatible. She might be a really nice person in life, but she's paranoid. I just can't compromise peace of mind, nobody should. I have some recommendations from friends, but I prefer to make my own experience, else, my Sisters would have found me someone already.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 5:19am On Nov 23, 2015

IlekeHD:
tpiah

You don't need an older woman to find intelligence...... I know some pretty young, brilliant females on NL. When searching exclude the politics, family and romance section.

I like stubborn, intelligent, independent, nonetheless cultured (Yoruba) partner. I am not a fighter, and I don't like a woman that fights every one.

Besides, I am wearry of pastors said this, imam said that people. If anything, I love my peace of mind.

How do you feel the person you mentioned fill into this category?

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 4:59am On Nov 23, 2015

9jacrip:
Egbon mi, I really haven't looked into this angle you've brought up. Quite interesting I must say o.

We know the Ijebu were active in the commerce but not sure about the coastline.

The Ilaje and Itsekiris probably hold unrecorded details of their feats in the seas/coasts. I would love to read details on this o.

Ilaje people have been fishers and merchants. Our exploits have been directed more towards the east. We had scattered Ilaje huts along the coast of Delta, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Cameroun, Gabun. Most of these folks have been assimilated into the main folks in these regions.

Besides, there were hardly reason for Ilaje to be subdued, because we were like the nomads, but on water. Our region was also not very accessible. We have lots of waterways, but they were not navigable for big ships. And even though we have a long stretch of sandy coastline, it's below sea level. The Atlantic always overflows the beaches atleast once a day. I do not know how it is nowadays, but that was how it was in my younger years (early seventies), when we used to go to my uncles on the beach of AbeAlala (Eteekun Abaala). And due to climate changes, I presume the situation might be worse now, except the beaches have been sand filled.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 4:33am On Nov 23, 2015

MayorofLagos:
There are intelligent women in NL. They have social pressures and are conditioned to yield to these pressures. This is why plenty of them are entrapped in online relationship scams. Men are sometimes caught in this entrapment as well.

I saw your convo with tupac and im thinking to myself he needs to be more careful than he has been if hes serious about finding a woman here to settle with.

Part of the pressure is age and procreation, other things are put aside. So, not all, but there is a reason romance, sexuality, family, cooking is filled with women than you find in politics....plus they trade their feminine appeal easily in those sections, whereas those appeals have to be suppressed if they were here interacting in politics section.

A lot of the people are very young. I got to exchange info with some, but they are simply too young. I lost my hearthrob not too long ago, and I am more inclined to find a woman, but I prefer someone from 30 upward, though that is still going to be a very big age difference nonetheless. Nairaland is full of twens people.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 8:09pm On Nov 22, 2015

Shymm3x:
Aareonakakanfo

Can you guess the part of Nigeria this took place and the folks involved?

That's a dead gorilla right there.

That looks like a Chimp to me. As noted in the pix, the event took place in Asaba in 1906.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 8:05pm On Nov 22, 2015

IlekeHD:
Is it the same intonation as AA's akata?

Akátá

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:33pm On Nov 22, 2015

naijababe:
Make we leave this animal matter...........Ikoko is some kind of wild dog sha and so is akata finito.

His dictionary is not completely correct. I mean I also learnt Ekun is tiger while I went to school, however, it's very incorrect as we never had tigers in Africa. Ekun is definitely the leopard, and amotekun being the cheetah. In the history of the town of Akure, there is a tale of a titled man who caught a life "ekun". And it was a leopard that he caught.

Ikoko is hyeana!

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:24pm On Nov 22, 2015

Shymm3x:
What's lion in Yoruba language cos I'm sure Yorubaland had African lions in the past before Nigerian devoured/feasted on all the lions?

And gorillas?

Gorillas are only indigenous to Nigeria/Cameroon and Central Africa.

That one is very easy.

Lion = Kiniun
Gorilla = Inaki (inoki). It's called ELEGBEDE in other Yoruba dialects e.g. Ilaje

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 5:26pm On Nov 22, 2015

9jacrip:
Yoruba have a term for Tiger and it is 'Ekun'.

A certain Ilare quarter in Ife has an Ijesa warriors ancestory and the reason is Ijesa warriors were invited to help kill a certain ekun that was a threat at that period - tiger.

But you do have a point sha.

On the side, if you're Ilaje then I hope you're aware of your folks being Osangangan Obamakin's (Obatala's brother) sujects at Mokuro till y'all emigrated out of Ife in protest to Oduduwa's kingship usurpation of power at Ife?

Well, it could never have been a tiger. Tigers are found only in Asia (Siberia, Indian subcontinent, China, South and Southeast Asia).

Regarding the history of the Ilajes, I can not say I am conversant with it so much apart from what I learnt while mingling with the old men. We left Abe-Alala my village for Lagos in around 1974 to join my father in Ogudu. And my father died in 1984, so the elders meeting was no longer held. And I have been out of Nigeria more than 20 years. The last time I was in Igbokoda was 2012, so I cannot claim to be an authority in Ilaje history.

A lot has changed, and still changing in Ondo South senatorial district. However, successive Ondo state governments have been lacking in foresight regarding the strategic importance of the town of Ore. Ore should be a cash cow for Ondo state if the state could develop that town and encourage leisure business there.

As for Okitipupa, I couldn't recognize Okitipupa again. Agagu tried in that regard. Okitipupa has grown big, and almost every street tarred. Okitipupa was barely a town when I went there in 1990, but has surpassed Ore in a matter of 22 years. Igbokoda is ok, but could do better.

Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 5:12pm On Nov 22, 2015

Elebiju:
ayemafughe......

Se wo ba Elebiju ti Ketu (Eko) tan?

Politics › Re: Akwa Ibom State Can Solve Nigeria’s Fuel Scarcity – Gov. Udom Emmanuel by Ilaje44(m): 4:41pm On Nov 22, 2015

HopeAtHand:
Bruv you know nah..

Akwa Ibom Ayaya peeps want their state to look like Rivers...next thing they ask for LNG plant...

Actually it's their right. Your argument has no foundation at all. The thing the governor is agitating for is very legitimate. The reason Nigeria has underperformed is the concentration of power in Abuja. Why must almost every nonsense need the approval of the federal government? Yoruba people say: "ika o d'ogba" meaning fingers are not equal. Even children born on the same day, the same hours don't grow equally. It's the right of Akwa Ibom to demand more empowerment which is actually legal framework to be able to make investment in this regard.

We have similar limitation in the power sector, where the federal government mandates to you as a power generator to supply to the national grid if you want to invest in power generation. It's kind of stupid and anti investment.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 3:55pm On Nov 22, 2015

9jacrip:
Brilliant sir/ma!

E jo egba.

Tigers have never been native to Afrika. Leopard is Ekun, Amotekun should be cheetah, while ikoko should be hyena.

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 3:46pm On Nov 22, 2015

Mosesm:
Leopard is amotekun Tiger is Ekun. Fox is kolokolo.

Iro, tiger ko ni ekun. Ko si tiger l'Afrika rara ati rara. Leopard l'ekun. Oye to m'ekun l'Akure ni aiye ojo yen, leopard lo mu kii se tiger. Asia lo ni tiger.

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:30am On Nov 22, 2015

We are neighbours, mostly peaceful neighbours.

Musiwa419:
Egbon, ejo ema binu o. Are you an Ilaje ? If yes, what is the similarity/difference between you and the Itsekiri's ?

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:22am On Nov 22, 2015

aljharem:
My yoruba people. God bless you all

Alhaji alaya yeye, mo fo "amin" adura re.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:14am On Nov 22, 2015

IlekeHD:
Thanks mehn.

Why did we start calling AAs akata?

Se e moh history ti yen?

I don't know why we refer to them as Akata. However, as used in Nigeria, it's not a derogatory term as now being understood by AAs. It was a term used to differentiate between the (native) American blacks "omo onile" of America, and (recently migrated) Africans.

It's just like as "ajebotta" and "ajepaki" are used to refer to the rich and the poor in Yoruba street lingo.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:08am On Nov 22, 2015

CabbieAC:
Ilaje44 is right.Akata is indeed fox.

kolokolo also means fox

Yes, fox are called kolokolo. But panthers are large cats. Akata is a smaller animal. Could be the lynx, but definitely not the panther.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:01am On Nov 22, 2015

IlekeHD:
Is it the same intonation as AA's akata?

Yes, bakanna ni won npe awon oro mejeeji.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 7:00am On Nov 22, 2015

CabbieAC:
I actually get what you mean the cotton picking nonsense bah? mmtchew

Akata means panther.Those who say its cat that left home and blahblah should tell us where they got their translations from

Akata is not panther. Panthers are black leopards. And Leopards are EKUN, but some misinterprets it to be the Tiger. Tigers are not native to Africa.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 6:51am On Nov 22, 2015

CabbieAC:
Akata means panther

Iro o, panther ke? Ekun ni panther/Leopard. Ko si Tiger l'Afrika.

Fox ni Yoruba npe ni AKATA.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 6:34am On Nov 22, 2015

IlekeHD:
I thought so.

The fact that you can speak Ekiti is cool sha.

A friend of mine of more than 30 years is from Ise-Ekiti. An Ex brother in law is from Ijero. Infact, my niece lives there. Another friend of mine is from Aramoko. Had a short fling with a lady from Ilawe. I have been to Ise, Ado, Ikerre, and passed through Aramoko, Effon among others. I really liked it in Effon Alaiye. Beautiful scenery. Ikerre was a beauty in the old time when Ekiti was still part and parcel of Ondo state. The then Governor, I believe was from Ikerre Ekiti, and he beautified the place. It's been a while since I was in Ekiti. The last time I was there was 2005.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 5:55am On Nov 22, 2015

IlekeHD:
Is this Ilaje or Ekiti? So cool

Tooto le so o. Omo baba ni a.

Ekiti ni mo so o.

Ni ede Ilaje, a ni: Oma iba kan dede wa gha rin...

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ilaje44(m): 5:43am On Nov 22, 2015

quimicababes:
CabbieAC what does akata mean?

Though the question was not directed at me, but I can say "akata" is fox in Yoruba. You know that little cute smart dog like animal? Yeah, that's it name in Yoruba.

The word is also used to refer to Afro Americans. Some believe it's derogatory, but that is far from the truth.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 5:36am On Nov 22, 2015

IlekeHD:
Ekiti people also call Ife "Ufe".

"Usu" = Isu

"Ule" =Ile.

And I can understand the Ilaje dialect you posted up there.

Well, omo baba kan ni kete ria. Oju obo lo kan yato.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 5:23am On Nov 22, 2015

wytecat:
What is not true in what I said?

You initially went with only those two dialects use 'dede' or at least you didn't bring it up that others like ijebu use the word as well. If you didn't know that Ijebu say 'dede', until others raised it, don't you think that you really don't know how others say it in their dialects?

What is ijebu classified as if not one of southwestern Yoruba dialects?

And one more thing; Are Ilajes Yoruba?

The discussion here is about the Ilajes and Itsekiris. The OP said the word is common to both groups, and he was corrected. You said all Yoruba groups use dede which is quite wrong. That's why I said even among the Southeastern (I indeed wrongly wrote Southwestern) Yoruba group, not even all use dede.

Hence, it's not true that all Yoruba Dialects use "dede" as used by the Ilajes, Ikales, Apois etc.

The Yoruba dialectical continuum is linguistically divided into three branches.

The Northwestern Yoruba e.g. Oyo
The central Yoruba e.g. Ife
The southeastern Yoruba e.g. Ilaje

You will find both the aspect of NWY and SEY in central Yoruba, because they are the bridge connecting the other two. If I remember correctly, Ijebu seems to be among the central Yoruba along with Ife.

Why are you asking if Ilajes are Yoruba? I don't partake in the childish and futile ethnic discussions as common on Nairaland. However, I can assure you that Ilajes don't have identity crisis. Oma Olufe a gha rin.
This is embodied in some of our tales too like the story of "Elero":
...
Ufe yi duro ma wi re Ufe
Ufe yi duro ma wi re Ufe
Awa mokanla Elero bi o Ufe
J'Elero wa sa aghan rire rire oma re r'Ufe o Ufe
Ufe gbo temi ma t'ara r'Ufe o Ufe...

Ufe = ule Ufe/ile Ife

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 4:25am On Nov 22, 2015

dejavski:
Mo ki han oh ogbone mi

E le o. Se o mi yon? Kaaro! Lee!

Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 4:19am On Nov 22, 2015

wytecat:
@ Op, you haven't found the word that's just for these two alone. You can't stay for 2 minutes in Ijebu area without hearing 'dede'. Ijebu say, Omo ijebu dede.
Egba too use dede. You would find dede in every Yoruba dialect.

That's not totally true. Even in Ondo/Ekiti States, not everyone uses "dede". Some use "gede", while some others especially Ekitis use "kete". Ijebu and Ilaje are related, even though Ijebus are not classified among the Southwestern Yoruba dialects. Some Egba names do sound Ilaje to me e.g.: Afuwape.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 4:08am On Nov 22, 2015

spiralwedge:
Spot on. Same as Ijebus. Infact, Ijebus dont use "gbogbo" but "dede".

I also understand Ijebus and Ijeshas have huge similarities despite the wide geographical gap. Wish to see a thread like this on that too.

Won ni Ijebu ko daa, Ujesha ko suwon: Enikan wa ni oun Ijebu-Ijesha. Ijebu, Ujesha, Ikale, Isekiri, Ogho, Ifan, Ondo, Akure, Ekiti, Ilaje etc. om'iye dede wa gha rin.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 4:03am On Nov 22, 2015

mydex93:
meh gbe nii ya ilaje ooooo...I really dnt knw exactly where we re 4rm in ilaje ooo#coversface#not my fault bur my Dads..he never takes us home..all we jus knw is we are 4rm ilaje in ondo state.

O ba rin, e ti baje. Sebi 'bare ti gha? Pester him to tell you his origin. Tell him if he fails to do that, pe baba Ilaje kan ji oun ra faini (fine) re ni odidi oti Shnappu meghan.

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Culture › Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by Ilaje44(m): 10:20pm On Nov 21, 2015

mydex93:
Aiyemafuge Ilaje oooooo

Awa yee!
Mo ri pe oma MEMULETIGHAN wo gha rin. Se baba yii le ma oja eyi wo ti wa ni Igbekun? Mo fe ma re mo mi fo rin o. E le!

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