European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:11pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Karleb: ...and Ronaldo is no way the reason we are abysmal. It’s Ronaldo’s fault. He gets into the head of the players and they suddenly forget how to pass, press, tackle, win headers and make intelligent runs. Ronaldo is a god that controls his team mates and even when he was in Portugal mourning his dead son, his colleagues were still controlled by him from Lisbon. You have to laugh at some of these United fans with this obtuse reasoning. Man Utd would have finished 15th last season without Ronaldo. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:05pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Unfortunately, it's a team sports.
A 7 performance for 90% of this season is better than a 9 for 40% of the season.
The latter will win you all the accolades and personal awards but the former helps the team better. How did the team fare in the games without Ronaldo last season? Let’s agree for the sake of argument that Ronaldo is bad for the team, he doesn’t press and he doesn’t listen to instruction and he’s too arrogant, right? How many games did his colleagues win when Ronaldo was on the bench or when he was mourning his son last season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:02pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: an we finished with 58 points.. like I said, team sport, not individual sport. You finished 58 points because of the other players. Ronaldo played his part, did the others play their part? If they did, why didn’t any of them make PFA team of the season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:00pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Lol Mbappe sef get crazy toxicity.
Anyone will take Ronaldo's toxicity at his prime. But a toxic Ronaldo at 38 lmao? You're having a laugh.
Btwn, not saying Ronaldo is toxic. I'm reacting to your post. I am not saying he’s toxic as well, i was only using the term sarcastically. Any demands for some high standards is seen as toxicity for those who cannot attain such standards. See what Toxicity has done for Ronaldo…..
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:55pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: the 18 goals in total wasn't even spread.. he had like 2 hat tricks there.. and some brace.. he blanked in a lot of games. I play fpl so I know this.. He scored the most goals against the top 6 sides in the league. He won the most player of the month awards He won the most MOTM awards for Man Utd. He deservedly made the PFA team of the season. He did all this at the age of 37 in the hardest league in the world. Even if you are a witch, you have to respect CR7. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:50pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: City have scored over 100 goals in the past seasons.. they were playing without a striker.. football is a team game.. not an individual game..
Werner wanted to leave, it's not like Chelsea wanted to sell him.. lukaku isn't a team player and toxic like ororo, so he was shipped out.. Chelsea didn't need that toxicity Ororo’s toxicity won him 5 CL titles. Man Utd’s positivity won them 3 CL titles after 150+ years of existence. I think I prefer Ororo’s toxicity. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:25pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: united is not holding him.. If an offer comes today.. they'll let him go.. nobody wants an unhappy player.. reason dey are letting players go on loan, even in a thin squad.. martial did not score 18 league goals, but others scored.. no Chelsea player scored up to 18 league goals last season, but they fared better than us.. football is a team game, not individual game.. if Ronaldo leaving allows us to be a better team, fine.. No Chelsea player scored up to 18 league goals but there was a consequence for that. Since then, they have sold Lukaku and Werner(their 2 best strikers). I don’t know why you people discount the importance of goals in a team. You people would rather rely on serial failures like Martial/Rashford to get United back to the top. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:15pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: The list would be fake if it had United on the list. Cuz Glaziers won't invest shiit into United. Rather, they take money out of the club. That list is for Nitrogen(The Glazer Apologist). |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:10pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Fofana is not for sale... didn't stop Chelsea from making bids
De jong is not for sale... didn't stop Man U from making bids
Anthony Gordon is not for sale... didn't stop Chelsea from making bids All these players were put on sale. Barca is begging De Jong to leave but they owe him. Fofana/Gordon were put on sale, we know their price tag. Man Utd have not named Ronaldo’s price and they have insisted they will not sell him. Ronaldo must honor his contract. If he’s for sale, why did they drag Alex Ferguson from his retirement bed in a closed door meeting to beg Ronaldo to stay? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:07pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: The bolded should be simple enough na. Since the useless board is not signing players, Ten Hag should do himself a huge favour and leave. But sadly he won't resign because the salary is very good, or he will stay on until he is sacked so as to collect payoff. This club matter don already tire me already This is why I like Conte. When Inter told him there would be no funds in the summer to defend the Serie A title, he left them immediately. No manager should be letting a useless club stain their reputation. If the results go bad, these clubs won’t spare you a sack letter. So why should managers spare their incompetence. ETH should leave, let McClaren take over and send the club to relegation. Maybe then, United fans who are yet to see the imminent doom would understand how rotten the club has become. This is the list of owners who have put their own money into their club. Guess what? The Glazers are conspicuously missing from this list. They would rather suck from the club than put their own money. Any serious professional should avoid Man Utd like a plague.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:57pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: That's silly. Any club interested should put in a bid or make an offer for him. If we reject it, they put in an higher bid or walk away.
We don't need to place a value on him before other clubs show interest.
What they want is for us to place a low value on him. Like 8m or so. So as to boost interest from other clubs. And we won't do that. Man Utd have insisted he’s NOT for SALE. There’s nothing any club can do for a player that isn’t in the market. This is why his agent is asking Man Utd to put a price on him(put him back in the market). |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:47pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: standard this, standard that.. let himbtake it elsewhere.. oh wait, nobody wants him. A player is undermining the manager, and you keep complaining standards.. I can't wait for martial to send him to the bench.. REAL, Juve, ronaldo has always had problems, but nobody cared as long as they where winning.. we have many issues as a club, but letting ronaldo go, is 1 less at least, for the peace of the dressing room. Anthony Martial has to score up to 18 league goals in one season first and foremost before he can have a conversation with Ronaldo. Ronaldo isn’t undermining the manager. The manager is undermining himself for even having the temerity to think he can succeed with Maguire and Shaw. Ronaldo’s issue is simple. Give me quality players so I can win for Man Utd. If United cannot provide that, they should let him leave to where he can win. United should enjoy their relegation battle with Fulham and Forest. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:43pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
chrisley024: It could be due to commercial reasons since we're a commercial club. 
I see no reason he'd not be freed, he doesn't want to play. Ronaldo loves Man Utd, that was why he came back and I am sure he was promised a reasonable squad investment after it became clear United would not make top 4. If Ronaldo wanted to leave simply because of CL football, he would have made his feelings known around April/May. He wanted to see the direction United would go in the transfer window and he’s now seen it that the club is unserious. Mind you, Rangnick wanted about 4 players in January but he was told there would be no funds. The excuse was that a new manager would replace Rangnick anyway and it would be better if the new manager signs his own players. So the Glazers forfeited the top 4 race on the excuse that they would buy quality players this summer. Ronaldo has seen all these failed promises and he’s thinking this club is doomed. There’s no ambition to compete for the league title or win big trophies. The owners just want to be coasting while taking dividends out of the club every year. If Ronaldo was your brother, would you advise him to stay at this shitty club in the twilight of his career? Ronaldo wants to win, Man Utd don’t want to. The two parties are not compatible. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:19pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
chrisley024: @ the emboldened, can you provide the evidence  I rest my case. 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 5:48pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
I still find it shocking that the entire South East region observe a sit-at-home every Monday on the orders of a terrorist.
Peter Obi’s businesses in the SE also observe this compulsory sit-at-home every Monday and his supporters say he’s not linked to IPOB? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 5:22pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
larride: You are the one that's bringing the bigotry here. Whether his name is Chigozie or Yusuf or Sodiq , I will vote for him if I believe he's the best among the candidate.
I voted for Buhari in 2015 and 2019 and I do not regret it. Did he meet all my expectation? NO. He actually failed in some sector and did very well in some.
Again I will say it, calling me a party agent is not an insult. You needto try better than that. You are a party agent yourself, are you not the one that bought Labour party form again before your form was thrown out through the window because the party realized that because they are hopeless doesn't mean they should field a hopeless candidate like you.
Donjazet, doesn't it scare you that whatever and whoever you support end up in failure? Do you sit and ask yourself why everything you touch turn to dust? It's no wonder that you are always envious of happy who succeed where you fail. It must be killing you deeply to fail at every turn and you see people celebrating about the same thing you failed at. Maybe you need to go for deliverance but then it's also sure to fail because everything that concerns you is ends up in failure. Jesus Christ of Nnewi.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:09pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Ellexy: He wants to leave by all means, what's stopping him from buying out his contract or any club interested to put in a bid? His agent has asked United to put a price tag on him. There are several clubs armed with a contract ready to offer him one. Why should any professional player with high standards play for United? They have lied to Ronaldo about squad investment. They have also lied to Ten Hag about giving him a chance to succeed. If ETH knows what is good for him, he should also resign. There is no fighting chance for him to make top 6. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 5:07pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
donjazet: What we are fighting against. This is what you should be supporting. VAT rate in Nigeria is too small. A poverty capital should be doing way more than 7.5% VAT. Nigerians will rather spend money at Wizkid concerts, buy tables at N10m each than contribute taxes meaningfully to their GDP. This is one of the reasons Nigeria cannot execute big projects or put infrastructure in place without borrowing from China. The revenue from taxes is too small to eradicate poverty or put social security in place.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:56pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Ellexy: [Laurie Whitwell] Ten Hag mind changing on Ronaldo, who has eaten lunch alone in canteen rather than with team-mates + flapped his arms at pressing drills in training. Ronaldo ultimately wants out, this not the club/structure he signed up for. But no offers yet. #MUFC A player that constantly demands high standards. A player with the best professionalism in the history of the game. Ronaldo has played in several clubs, he’s never had tantrums with team mates at Madrid or Juventus or complained about the professionalism of his team until his Man Utd’s second stint. They should let him go. His standards are higher than United’s current standards. There’s no way the best player on the planet should be playing for this shower of shït. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:07pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
kokaneprodigy: I’m glad you pointed out his strengths and weaknesses. Which every player has. The rule of thumb for a manager shopping for players is to buy players that fit his style. You clearly stated why Maguire plays better in another system and doesn’t play better in United’s system. Yet you want to blame Maguire for such. Maguire is shit at Man Utd. I don’t care for 3 Lions. My only concern is Man Utd and if Maguire isn’t working for the system United play, they should get rid of him. Playing Maguire in a high line is a recipe for disaster. kokaneprodigy: It was same reason I was on Good-Ebening’s case. Dude wanted to play 4-3-3 but kept buying slow midfielders. My point is y’all need to cut some of these players some slack. I am not cutting Maguire any slack. He’s the worst signing in the history of United. If you think of the money spent to get him and compare it to what he brings to the table, it makes me nauseous. The earlier ETH get rid of him, the better. He’s the captain but has no leadership skill in him. United would lose a game and Maguire would post his passing stats or heading stats on social media to prove he played well. What sort of captain does that? kokaneprodigy: Troll aside I knew Pogba would flop at United ask Sinizia. Not cos he ain’t skilled but you guys interpreted his performance at Juve as being the backbone of Juve’s midfield, this was false. Pogba just like Ramsey thrives in chaos, they are not positionally disciplined. You need someone to really take responsibility of the midfield while they roam. Pogba didn’t flop at United. He was instrumental in the few titles United won when he was at the club. I am pretty sure he scored a goal in the Europa final. Pogba needed a defensive cover in the mould of Kante or Matuidi, United never gave him that support. kokaneprodigy: You guys need to stop buying players just for buying sake or to massage your ego. Buy what you need not what you want. Every club makes a mistake every now and then with recruitment. United’s problem is taking forever to recognize that mistake and fixing it. Guardiola bought Claudio Bravo and Nolito in his first season. It took him 5 months to see they weren’t going to work and he replaced them the next summer transfer window. Klopp has had Karius, Kaban, Klavan replaced after 12-18 months with better quality. United still have people like Phil Jones, Viktor Lindelof, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, etc in the club after producing shït performance every season. I don’t understand their obsession with shïtty players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:14pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
kokaneprodigy: this same Maguire plays well for country. So what’s your point. England plays 3 at the back because of Maguire. The only reason any manager plays 3 at the back is because he doesn’t fully trust any of his centre-halves so there’s always an extra man covering for mediocrity. Man Utd play 4 at the back but the biggest problem is the depth of the team. Maguire suits a team that wants to counter attack. Sit deep(leave zero space behind), soak pressure and spring an attack as fast as possible the moment the opponent loses the ball. However, because Ole and ETH want to play ‘modern’ football, they play a high line that leaves real estate between the last defender and a goalkeeper that doesn’t play as a sweeper. Maguire doesn’t have the pace to recover and De Gea rarely leaves his line. It’s like expecting a wheelbarrow to win F1 race. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:44pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
Joezinho: New York.. School resumes on the 6th of September. Just wanna chill for a week with my hommie in ATL before heading back to Brooklyn next weekend to start the next phase.. New York? Are you sure babes will let you study in peace?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:38pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
Joezinho:
okay baba Which of the states would you be doing your study? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 7:36pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
donjazet: Try something new my friend, these tactics of generalizing an entire group on the basis of a few is well worn out.
For every abrasive Obi supporter like myself that have sworn to match madness with madness, there are very peaceful minded ones like segedinho, emmanuelscott1, emmynator and the rest.
Likewise, the BATstards, for every wicked and vengeful dog like dayo that wishes genocide on 15 million people of his fellow countrymen while chilling abroad, there are more trickish but peaceful fellows like ibukzy. The basis of a few? Everyone who has questioned Obi’s credentials on social media has been threatened. Reno, Dino, Deji Adeyanju, etc have all been threatened with painful deaths. Only one party has been in the constant news for gaslighting, making threats, insults, verbal assaults and what not. #Obidients even told Obi they would attack him if he ever considers abandoning his mandate. LP is starting to look like a cult or a terrorist group. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:07pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
raumdeuter: You have Varane Lindelof Bailly and just spent 60m on Aki and pawpawp A fit Bailly can actually do what Koulibaly brings to the table but he’s always injured. Lindelof should be playing women football. Varane is world class but he’s always injured too. His pattern of injury can never ever allow the consistency needed to form a partnership. Englishisamust: We also have baily that can defend like him but racism and stupid coach we have been employing will not make man u to use him. They want to even sell him. Chaii man u. Nawaooo Maguire is undroppable. One stupid manager made him a captain and the 2 successive managers have no balls to demote Maguire. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 6:52pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
So Obidients threatened to burn down Fela’s shrine because Femi said he is not #Obidient?
This party is starting to look like a terrorist group. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:34pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
Mrviktor: Let's stop lying..we hated Jose and his toxic dressing room and team We? Who are we?  Alex Ferguson smashed a football boot in Beckham’s face, had toxic relationship with Arsene Wenger that always brought Police to mediate the beef between them. Serial winners don’t want to lose and if they suspect a slack here and there, they confront the slack with ferocity. That is why they win. If you want the Ole treatment where failure is rewarded and everyone smiles, maybe you should start supporting MFM team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:30pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
Mrviktor: Tunchel is more toxic than Jose.. If toxicity can win titles, I support it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:11pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
I am almost crying here watching Koulibaly boss the PL.
He was supposed to have joined United but Ole chose Maguire instead and spent £80m on the dross.
Koulibaly’s performance today has eclipsed everything Maguire has done in his PL career. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:09pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
obainojazz: or Fox News  CNN is worse than Fox News.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:54pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
raumdeuter: I wonder what anyone will blame the board for or the Glazers for
What exactly should they do that they've not. Should they come and play football by themselves or coach the players
They've spent more than most teams in Europe
Followed the advice of Ferguson and hired Moyes O Lule Hired experienced coach LvG O lule Hired Serial winner Mourinho O lule Hired rookie coach Ole O Lule Hired philosophy teacher RiffRaff O lule Hired a tactical Ten Hag
What should the board do again
The only thing I can say I have a slight preference for Pochetinno over Ten Hag but that's just a personal preference This isn’t true. Mourinho didn’t fumble the bag. Mourinho won 3 trophies, gave the most honest and the most philosophical diagnosis of the disease affecting the club but he was ignored. After Mourinho finished 2nd to City’s centurions, that was when United board should have thrown money at the problem but they were misled badly that Mourinho’s team was good enough to have won the title that season but Jose’s tactics held them back. Mind you, if they had given Mourinho a winger(Perisic) that he asked for before he finished 2nd, the gap to City could have been much closer as Lukaku needed a genuine source to score goals, the board denied him Perisic because of £5m difference in the valuation of Perisic. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:48pm On Aug 14, 2022 |
Joezinho: I got to New York at about 10:00am , immediately booked an evening flight to Atlanta to see my friend before school resumes.. Got into ATL 12:45am..
Heard a lota strange tales and I know I might pretty much experience them but thus far, my experience with USA has been pretty much an extension of the first conversation I had with the immigration officer at the Point of entry-- Warm, friendly, polite and respectful. Be it police officers or people.
USA has some of the most well behaved, friendly and polite people I’ve ever come across. Imagine asking a Nigerian for directions.. Nigeria can only be better when Nigerians are ready to make it a better place..
Of course, this is my personal experience thus and it could be biased.
My friend's neighborhood in ATL.... 09:24am in Atlanta... My only advice for you is - don’t watch CNN.  |