European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:34pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
BikeMan: When you make a statement like this, you will need to drop your reliable source. Chelsea contacted him in January and he turned Chelsea down. How many times do we have to repeat that here? You seem so insecure to be arguing about a new United manager. If you are confident in yourself, you won’t be disputing whether Chelsea wanted Rangnick or not. You people leave your accursed thread to start meaningless arguments on the United space. What is it? Don’t you people have any joy in your own space? You are European champions, close to the top of the league - go and enjoy the moment and leave Rangnick alone. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:16pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:06pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: You lie too much 2019/20 Man Utd spent 211M Pounds 2020/21 Man Utd spent 78M Pounds 2021/22 Man Utd spent 126M Pounds
Ole alone spent 412M Pounds Why are you counting 21/22 when no one has won anything yet. You have to count seasons that have been completed and we know who’s won what. Ole’s purchases are from January 2019 till January 2021. Even if we add up this summer to Ole’s spent, it is still a far cry to the lie you made initially that United have outspent Man City since 2016. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:03pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Mourinho also inherited players at Man Utd and failed miserably with them earning him a sack. Which players did he inherit? How have the players fared since Mourinho left? raumdeuter: When Mourinho was at the peak of his powers, he was going to top clubs like Chelsea, Madrid not the likes of Roma and Spurs. Signs of a finished coach Ancelotti coached Napoli, Everton and he’s now back in Madrid. Your comment is devoid of logic. raumdeuter: The lies you tell yourself, Mourinho is at Roma because only clubs at that level are calling him, top clubs do not want him anymore. Its like saying a student rejected UNILAG but went to Taraba Poly because he wanted to. There are many reasons a student would reject UNILAG for Taraba Poly. It was well documented that Madrid approached Mourinho twice but he said he had already signed a contract with Roma and he’s a man of his word. raumdeuter: Yet a coach like Pep has never been sacked, He is in a league battling the top coaches in th world week after week and winning titles, Something Mourinho has failed at and got sacked for. He wasn’t sacked at City because Pep himself said City were a small club. Pep finished trophyless in his debut season at City and he confessed any of the big European clubs would have sacked him with his pathetic run of results. That a child wasn’t punished for failing an exam doesn’t remove the fact that he failed. You don’t get any extra credits for not getting sacked. Ancelotti has more CL titles than Pep, he’s been sacked 14 times. SAF is a far more successful manager than Pep, he has a sack history in his resume as well. I don’t really rate people who base a manager’s brilliance on his sack history. You can only look at what he’s achieved. There’s nothing Pep has achieved that his successors haven’t bettered. He won a treble at Barca, Luis Enrique replicated the achievement. Pep couldn’t get Bayern a CL final in 3 full seasons, Hansi Flick(PE teacher/caretaker) did it with style and grace by winning a treble. Porto are still begging God to play in a CL semifinal after Mourinho took them there and won it in 2004. Inter have sought the help of all deities to give them a CL semifinal since Mourinho won them a TREBLE in 2010. Mourinho’s achievements aren’t easily replicated because he overachieves. Pep just continues a trend. He’s never managed a game where he’s an underdog in his career because he chooses the richest teams in the league to manage. Your idol is a FRAUD!!!  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:47pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Oasis007: Rangnick: "I must admit I was surprised [by Manchester United performance]. I was a bit surprised, because not only did we play Thursday, a late kick-off, we had two days less to recover compared to Crystal Palace." I heard Rangnick said Fred and McTominay were perfect. It’s looking like McFred would be with us for a long time. Who is their herbalist? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:43pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Since Pep joined City, your club Man Utd has outspent him yet your club is where? Winning which titles? You lie too much to be taken seriously. Pep has spent £928m at Man City Mourinho spent £419m Solskjaer spent £314m. Pep has spent around £200m more than the 2 Man Utd managers combined. And this was a manager that inherited 6 world class players at City. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:34pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Since Pep joined City, your club Man Utd has outspent him yet your club is where? Winning which titles? This is a big lie. City have spent way more money than United since Pep joined and I have already established that Pep actually benefitted more from the players he inherited than the ones he bought. Every manager hired by the Abu Dhabi group since they arrived in 2008 has won the PL title - including Pellegrini that is now considered finished after managing West Ham for a while. Any manager in City would do well, it’s almost impossible to fail as a manager at City. raumdeuter: Mourinho is at Roma because he is finished and his stock is at the lowest. Roma has backed him with signings yet they are getting worse. EVen in UEFA conference league the competition for rejects he is still struggling with clubs whose names cant be pronounced. Mourinho is at Roma cos he wanted to. Real Madrid begged him twice to return to Madrid before they settled for Ancelotti. One has to be incredibly stupid to think Ancelotti that finished 10th at Everton has a higher stock than Mourinho that finished 7th with Spurs. raumdeuter: Mourinho loves the EPL so much but he has been fired by almost half the top clusb there. He found solace at Roma where he is still getting battered left and right. 50% win rate I marvel every time people talk about sacking record as a stain. Ancelotti has been sacked 14 times. Who gives a fück about sack? Managers are replaceable employees. I’d rather a manager that isn’t afraid of trying than the ones that wait to get a posh job where it’s almost impossible to fail. Mancini won PL with City Pellegrini won PL with City Why should it be different for Pep after he got handed £1 billion? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:22pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
In the games we are expected to defend, AWB would be useful but everyone with brains criticized Ole back then with his stubbornness to start AWB in every game.
If you are playing 2 DMs, there’s no reason to have a highly defensive AWB in the defence, Dalot should have played way more games for Ole. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:15pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: One thing everyone knows that its never Mourinhos fault, Its always the players, the FA, the weather, the club owner, the economy that is wrong never Mourinho
Has Mourinho been choosing the wrong clubs ever since? Mourinho is currently 6th with a 50% win rate in Italy. 25 points in 16 games
The same reason he was sacked at his last 4 jobs for being a football dinosaur with zero progressive ideas
Pep is currently top of the league table where he coaches, Ancelotti is top, Mourinho is 6th.
Bayern was begging Pep for an extension after 3yrs, when was the last time Mourinho got to 3 seasons without a sack letter waiting for him Pep is top of the league in a club where he’s been given £1 billion pound worth of assets on players. Ancelotti is top of the league in Real Madrid - the most successful team in Europe. Mourinho is 6th in a club that finished 7th before he arrived and a club that haven’t won the league in 20 years. Why didn’t you ask Ancelotti to win the league with Everton last season when he finished 10th? Ancelotti at 10th isn’t finished by any means but Mourinho improving the position he found Roma is finished. #Logic101 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:33pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Mourinho is finished but his cult followers won't accept Is Ancelotti finished? The gist was that he was finished at Napoli and Everton. He’s currently on 76% win rate at Madrid, he’s top of the league with 2 losses in 21. You anti-Mourinho infidels sometimes need to see the problem for a manager is just choosing the wrong club to manage. Roma last won Serie A 20 years ago. They finished 7th last season but somehow Mourinho was supposed to make them champions overnight. Meanwhile, Pep that inherited a TREBLE winning Bayern isn’t finished for failing to at least get a final in 3 seasons. #Logic101 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:21pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Joezinho: If you had a semblance of a brain in that vacant skull of yours, you would've known the top 4 race isn't over simply because you are 9 points away but like the obtuse ninnyhammer that you are, you continued in your display of ratchet pre-historic behavioral patterns.
Witless slowpoke.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:14pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
hoopLA: Yes but only on paper.
There's more work to be done in the creative midfield area.
Teams collapse on Bruno shutting off the supply. I have a sneaky feeling that this is the way most of those teams will want to play us going forward. We were very creative in the first half. Only Fred, Lindelof and De Gea didn’t create a chance in the first half. The other 8 players made a pass that led to a shot. We just needed to be more clinical. Too many scoffed shots and miskicks. Boys need to calm down and enjoy this new era. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:10pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
LostMyZeal: Lol...Our Ororo lives in the air na
I expected Bruno to Aim for the top-right corner It was beautiful football. The lay off was delicious and I was expecting a thunderous volley into the top bins for Bruno. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:08pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
hoopLA: Let's take each game one at a time.
Ragnick is still getting accustomed to his new players
It's not going to be so straightforward.
The good thing is that the side appeared more compact,more eager to win 50-50 duels than I've seen in a very long time. That’s why I said they are winnable games. They are games one would reasonably expect United to win. Norwich Brentford Brighton Newcastle Burnley Wolves We still have the French contingent(Pogba, Varane, Martial) yet to feature in Rangnick’s team. If we keep winning, we should make top 3 by new year. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:04pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Lana1: Rare OT clean sheet. First one since April Since March 14th. 9 months without a clean sheet after spending close to £200m on the defence. Ole is a fraud. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:58pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
The next 6 games are winnable.
We should be in top 3 by the time we get past all those hapless teams we are expected to beat.
On to the next one. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:55pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Clean sheet at Old Trafford after how many months. Can we hire Ole and sack him again?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:37pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Fred for Ballon d’Or |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:30pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Joezinho: Boys looks really gassed. Cant blame them for they way they played the first 45min. Not used to this intensity during ole Gollum.. I don’t think Rashford understands how offside rule works. The amount of time he gets caught is alarming for a player in his 6th year playing top level football. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:25pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Joezinho: Mistakes are being made out of fatigue. I wonder how long we can sustain this constant press. I don’t think we can. We are not creative enough to break down a team that sits back, it’s so obvious. We need to be pressed, win the ball, get a fast break to score goals. During the HaramBall era under Ole, we would have scored by now. It has to be said that Palace have defended well too. They get back into shape immediately and close down all the spaces. We need ball playing midfielders. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:03pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
LostMyZeal: Now our opponents have every reason to respect us 
See as these palace slaves dey shake 
I can sniff the fear from my screen omo
Anyway, the tempo of the game is too high and we need to hold the ball more, esp at the midfield
Get in VDB let there be creativity from that Midfield 
This kick and run dey taya person abeg
Look how we're whipping in crossses hoping Ororo will get on the end of them
We need creative midfielders badly!!! That headed layoff Ronaldo put on Bruno’s plate. I couldn’t believe my eyes how high Ronaldo outjumped his marker. Bruno should have scored. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:28pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
slimghost: We are playing some good football here man. Dalot and Telles finally getting games. Dalot with some delicious crosses. I don’t know how we aren’t 6 goals up already. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:11pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
United have won more balls in the final third in this game than we did throughout under Ole.
These boys better conserve their energy and not burn themselves out before the end of the game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:22pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Nezzjnr: Hmmmmm
Maguire and Lindelof Edited No need to panic. He’s only had one training session with the squad. There’s no real need to change a winning team at least for now. We should get 3 points here easily debarring Maguire brainfarting. Varane’s injury also seems to be never ending. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:14pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Has Shaw followed Ole to Norway? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:42pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Make this Messi vs Ronaldo argument die down, we have a game upcoming... Predict your line up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:19pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
adisaaowala: You need therapy He needs more than therapy, he needs brain surgery. People are arguing Ronaldo forces himself to outscore his team mates as an excuse. Isn’t that what every player contracted to a club should be doing? Messi at a farmer’s league is finding it difficult to score goals against part time bakery workers and Uber drivers but it’s Ronaldo’s fault cos he forces himself to outscore team mates. This is the gutter level football punditry has turned to with these MessiBots. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:17pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
makjo900: Don't be stupid everyday of your life, we all know Ronaldo forces himself to outscore his team mates and will wait for tap ins which is completely different from who Messi is. Ronaldo rejoined a league, a team he played for more than 8 years. I guess Barcelona is also Argentina, Most of you guys are bunch of dead brains He forced himself to outscore his team mates? You are one of the reasons why two siblings should not make babies together. What’s the meaning of forcing himself to outscore his team mates? How many goals has Benzema or Bale scored since Ronaldo left Real Madrid? Has Benzema ever won the Pichichi? Then you stupidly went on to mention Argentina where Messi has 80 goals in 160 games. If he was scoring 1 goal in every 2 games at Club level, he would never have won any ballon d’Or. The difference between Messi at Barca and Messi at Argentina is like day and night. Ronaldo maintains his consistency throughout the teams he’s played for. He has 62.5% goal/game ratio for a very talentless Portugal team. Messi has 50% for the most talented generation in Argentina. It’s shocking that Messi consistently played with Tevez, Aguero, Milito, Higuain, Di Maria, Riquelme, Crespo, etc with only one trophy to show for it. Disgraceful! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:44am On Dec 05, 2021 |
elampiro: Illimitable has been so wrong on Mourinho. I am wrong about Jose cos he lost to the champions but you have been 100% right about Moyes who’s lost to league champions throughout his 22-year career. #Logic101. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:41am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Nezzjnr: Oboi E no go funny if we lose today oo  Ole made losing to Crystal Palace at Old Trafford an annual festival. If we lose today, it’s on Ole and the criminal back four he’s managed to assemble in the last 3 years. AWB, Maguire and Shaw shouldn’t be playing for any team in the top 6.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:25am On Dec 05, 2021 |
makjo900: A player just got a new country, new club at aged 34 and you expect him to hit the ground running immediately. If he had done just that then you would go back to your usual "farmers league". You guys are jokers Ronaldo must be 22 years of age then, for him to be scoring as frequently as he is doing right now. If Ronaldo had moved to PSG, he would have at least 30 goals by now with the brilliant support system in Mbappe and Neymar. It has always been suspected that Messi is a system player that could only thrive in one team(Barcelona). Ronaldo is the almighty formula that would still score regularly whether he plays for Stoke or Burnley or Juventus. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:53pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
Havertz10: Lol how old are you? Look at the kind of nonsense that you are thinking like an insecure person that prefers to pivot responsibilities instead of owning his mistakes
No wahala, since you want to dive into this topic , lets dissect it
Cheating particularly in relationship isn’t an unexplainable phenomenon, its actually very simple to understand and predict, people refuse to accept this because they don’t want to believe that they aren’t enough for someone, show me a picture of any couple with small context and i will point openings for any interested man, we men are messing up big time, if we dont wake up quick to our emotional lackings in particularly , women will take most of us for a ride, some women have perfected cheating that you wouldn't ever find out
No matter how perfect a guy assumes that he is, there is a possibility that he isnt enough for someone, we men like to claim that there is always a man tired of a fine girl, its swings both ways brother
In the past our forefathers used traditional threats to scare women into being faithful, instead of them to wonder why does a woman cheat and find ways to mitigate it, they simply assumed that its inherent in them like men but that is far from the truth, men cheat because its a socially accepted habit and because there is no stigma attached to it, women on the other hand have to face such stigmas and social rejection, plus the added claims of spiritual implications and that kept most grounded
Fast forward to today and its a different story, women are cheating rampantly and its not a case of the woman being a bad person, its a case of the man simply not being good enough, similar to how a woman isnt enough for us men but unlike men that do it for social bragging, women do it because they seek happiness
Social dynamics is the main issue, men like girls that are above their class or share similar class with them, If you have ever dated a girl that felt like she was fortunate to have you, you will understand what I mean, if you show her small love, she will threat you like a god and worship, you are more than enough for her but try that with a girl that is of the same social class as you and her demands and expectation are higher and requires more effort, if you don’t meet up with her demands she will have openings for another man to fill, most men assume that all women want is money and when you give them money they will be fine but its only a woman that hasnt seen money before that can be controlled like that, try that with a woman that grew up with money and she will quickly find someone to fill the gaps that you have left ajar in her life, even the one that didnt grow up with financial security when that is attained, their demands shift, thats what nfl players and rich men dont see, for women its more than sex and money, Love is a baby, it needs constant attention and care to grow, its shameful that women understand love more than us men
you have be an active participant in her life particularly if you are of similar social footing, you have to constantly adjust to keep each other happy and intuned, most women have what they want in a man but age, conditions and timing can force them to manage whatever they get and if that man also married her for the aesthetics not love, he will not participate in that marriage, leaving an opening for another man that is attentive to her real needs to fill
its not a matter of net worth, sex or looks, if the social dynamics in your relationship aren't optimized, she will cheat on you and you will never know, if she doesn't, she hasn't met anyone worth the act yet or she is still under the control of traditional social structures in nigeria but with the rise of educated women in nigeria, men will go from predators to prey in a few generations
no matter how much a woman loves you, she can have crush on other men, its how valuable she finds you that limits her, dont blame women, we men need to do more to be social gods that our ego demands Your comment is a web of contradictions. You opined even the most perfect guy can be cheated on and then goes on to say men are messing up cos they are slumbering when it comes to emotional lacking. There’s nothing anyone can do about infidelity. Even the best relationship coaches have been in 5-6 different marriages and majority of them is because of infidelity. Human beings are way too complex to be put in a box that what you do is somehow the reason for your marital dysfunction. There are many useless irresponsible men with the most loyal partners and there are also tonnes of perfect husbands with whorës as wives. There’s no one size fits all and psychologists have done a terrible job for centuries looking for easy answers. I call it the streetlight effect. An alcoholic searches for his missing keys not where he dropped them but where the light is. Human beings have a tendency to look for the truth in the places where it is easiest to search rather than the places where it’s likely to be. And this is why when a woman cheats, the first thing everyone says is - the husband must have denied her some attention, some sęx or he doesn’t take care of her whereas this woman is just risk averse and her infidelity has nothing to do with the way she’s treated, she just wants to eat her cake and have it. |