European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:25pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
kokaneprodigy: Why are you guys not selling?
Cos you keep giving players bloated contracts that no other club will want to pay, yet you don’t want to let them go for free, so you renew.
There lies your problem. So it’s the fans that will sell players, not the board? Whenever you people are cornered with your daft logic, you quickly jump into another issue. After 2 seasons, Pep had signed 22 players at Man City. That is a board and a club that has ambition to ensure Pep succeeds. They got him the players that fit into his philosophy. Pep inherited Joe Hart(England’s #1), he said he didn’t want him and signed Claudio Bravo. Bravo didn’t work after few months and Pep signed Ederson in the next summer window. That’s ambition and it can only come from the board. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:21pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
nitrogen: They release funds. It’s the management’s responsibility to develop a good recruitment strategy, with the manager.
Most owners don’t do anything related to football. They employ good hands to do the right thing, which the Glazers have done. We currently have ‘footballing’ people hired to support the CEO and other directors. What else do you want? So to your understanding, the Glazers release £500m every transfer window and it’s the CEO & DOFs that cannot get good players? That is your belief?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:18pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
kokaneprodigy: you need money to beat Brentford and Brighton. After all that has been spent? You guys broke transfer records back to back. Yet struggle against the bottom halves . Make una carry this money talk put for one side. What transfer records did you break? You people will be talking about issues that happened 6 years ago. KDB is the only player left in the City XI that wasn’t signed by Pep. United still have players signed by Ferguson(De Gea, Jones), LVG(Shaw and Martial), Mourinho(Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot) and there lies the problem. No one cares about the money spent in the past. The past belongs where it belongs. A new manager needs his own type of players to flourish. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:04pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
nitrogen: Lol. You guys always refer to the glazers as the board. When things go wrong, it’s either they sell or resign. Why not direct your grievances at the CEO, scouts and directors of football? Similar to what we do to players and the manager. If the funds aren’t forthcoming from the owners, there’s little the CEO, Scouts and DOFs can do. You need to get on Amazon Prime TV and watch Man City’s documentary “All Or Nothing”. City complete their deals within a week. The right people are in place and money is no issue. They identify a player, they offer their bids and a deal is completed without hassles. It all stems from the owners. If I give you N5000 to get me a car instead of giving you N50m, I am setting you up to fail. It’s as simple as that. They chased De Jong for 2 months and ended up not getting him because they cannot cover the debt owed by Barca. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:49pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
hatakekakashi: When Varane joined, we looked like a club with ambitions then, finished 2nd in the league and hoping to do better the next season. You think Casemiro will leave somewhere he's assured of at least one trophy per season to come and play Europa and get beaten by mediocre teams week in week out
If he joins I'll be ecstatic, but it's very unlikely. So when Varane joined, United were on their way into winning a Treble in Europe? Footballers are mercenaries and Madrid have already replaced Casemiro with 2 French monsters(Camavinga and Tchouameni). If the price is right, Casemiro can be persuaded to come and get a starting position. It would benefit both parties. United have already withdrawn their De Jong bid. It’s very important they invest in a player of similar quality and Casemiro fits that role. Rabiot is a French McTominay. He will not improve the midfield. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:33pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
hatakekakashi: Which one, the guy that plays for Madrid? Get real!! The Varane that came to United was which one? The one that plays for Lille? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:24pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
Englishisamust: We hope rabiot can get his form in man u like he did in psg Just get Casemiro. Rabiot is worse than McTominay.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:02pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:25pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
nitrogen: You are right. We don’t move players on ASAP. I guess we want to keep them around until we extract all the good in them. They said it was Woodward’s strategy to keep offering them new contracts to keep their value high. I was shocked when I heard that Matic, Mata, Cavani, Pogba were all offered new contracts but they turned them down and moved on. So if they had accepted, they would still be United players. That’s how bad our recruitment strategy has been. We take too long to get rid of old players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:16pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
nitrogen: True, but Madrid also recruited managers and bought players that did not fit into their philosophy. The difference is Madrid almost always buys quality players and they quickly get rid of poor quality. That way, whatever method of playing a new manager wants, the Madrid players can easily adapt. Man Utd buy poor quality players who are only suited to one style of playing. If a new manager wants a different approach, United players cannot adapt to the new methods. AWB, Maguire, De Gea, Shaw, McFred, etc are all useless to the way Ten Hag wants to play. You can’t play a high line with these players and De Gea is never a sweeper keeper. I have no doubt Mourinho would have made legends out of AWB and Maguire cos he favors low blocks over the high line. In low blocks, Maguire can be very good but with the modern football methods that Ole/ETH are preaching, Maguire is totally useless to it. He’s got no recovering pace. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:07pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
LostMyZeal: Which one is OPTA again
We watched the eyesore of a game with our eyes nau
That stupid GK called DE GEA was at fault for passing the ball to a player who's already being pressed.
Eriksen was pressed from his blindside and got dispossessed.
It's common knowledge in football not to pass the ball to a pressed player nau.
Wetin OPTA con dey do for this simple talk  The pressed player received the ball and lost the ball. Eriksen could have kicked the ball hard out of touch or play a simple back pass to De Gea - but he tried to play it wide and the pressing player anticipated Eriksen’s move and got the ball. That was Eriksen’s fault. He’s not strong enough. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:56am On Aug 16, 2022 |
This Gary Neville is a chronic xenophobe. Maguire and Shaw in amber with Ronaldo? 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:58pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Vieira deserves a manager of the month award for the way he managed his team tonight.
ETH will want to form prime Barca against Liverpool next week and lose scandalously.
Liverpool take a lot of risks, the only way to beat them is let them have the ball and sting them on a counter. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:41pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: That was a foul? Lmao. Ronaldo doesn't even think it is. Be objective sometimes. It was a foul. A terrible foul, he was double kicked. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:36pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: He lost the ball that lead to the goal. And for the rest of that match held up the ball unnecessarily till he gets fouled.
Calm down and read things well. He didn’t lose the ball, it was a clear foul. Instead of Maguire to shout at the referee to let VAR at least take a look, he shied away from his responsibility. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:34pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
EmmanuelScott1: Why will I support something that's Killin people? The sit at home is no way Good.
Anyway I work on Mondays if I see work sha. As a sharp Igbo man.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:30pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:28pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: I don't rely on this nonsense and I'm sure you don't unless it fits a certain agenda. A player in that game can get high ratings by just being anonymous.
We were trashed 4-0. Everyone was terrible. There's nothing like top 3 performers. Ronaldo lost the fvcking ball that lead to that shot on target that caused the first goal. Unnecessarily holding on to the ball till he gets fouled. Different players had shots on target in that game except Ronaldo, who is the striker.
Don't come here to tell me he was one of the best kinikan He lost the ball or he was fouled? Which is which?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:23pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Diaz and salah will cause havoc.
Diaz just scored  Palace players just stood by and let Diaz snake his way from the flank to the centre to release a shot. Vieira should make everyone of them benchpress 200kg weights after the game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:19pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Gboy1026: Why should he speak against it? Have Tinubu ever spoken against any of Buhari wicked policy. So you are admitting Obi and IPOB are one and the same like Tinubu/Buhari are of the same party?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:18pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: This Nunez will flop last last
 So Nunez would miss the game against United? That’s good news for Lisandro. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:15pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
GoddyOra: United is dragging the GOAT into the mud. That man would cook easily in a super team like Bayern, Madrid, City or PSG but age ain't on his side any more to attract their interest.
It's just sad that some United fans doesn't even appreciate the little he can offer to their shit team at his age. Man literally could have sneaked in a goal last game despite their shambolic display but was unlucky. They can only hate. Nobody can stop the GOAT. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:13pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Opta won't record it as a direct error as Erikson touched the ball.
Just look at the image, Eriksen was under pressure and Maguire was free but the mumu GK picked the wrong man. De Gea has learnt never to give Maguire the ball after Tielemans goal against Leicester(last season I think). Eriksen should have done better with that image you posted. He was first to the ball, he could have shot the ball out of play for a corner and then slap De Gea afterwards. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:10pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
EmmanuelScott1: So anybody observing the Monday sit at home is in support of IPOB.
He has spoken publicly about it, browse it. They are all terrorists. I understand many people can’t openly defy such an order in the fear of retaliation or violence but Obi is too big a figure to be threatened by such. He should be telling his people to defy that order. We can’t be complaining about Buhari’s government when billions of naira are being pissed away every Monday in the SE at the behest of a terrorist. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:03pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: why are we blaming everyone bar ronaldo.. if ororo was dropping 8/10 every weak, I will understand.. see juve shining again after letting ronaldo leave.. their players look happy.. they won't win every match, but when dey lose, they'll regroup, not start blame each other. That's team work not I'm so good, and you all are bad dressing room. Yea, they won every trophy last season after Ronaldo left.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:01pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
EmmanuelScott1: Simon Ekpa a known IPOB leader has been dragging P.O up-and-down since obi declared for presidency, and here you're yarning dust. Those IPOB account you're accusing of staning P.O re they not Nigerians, Gumi and miyetti Allah that's supporting tinubu, re they not terrorist sympathizers. Yet, Peter Obi has been observing the Monday sit-at-home for months now. He’s never defied the order or spoken publicly against it. A leader obeying the order of a terrorist is what? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:59pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: WRONG, it was De Gea's fault. That is a no-pass zone.
Any mistake there will surely lead to a scoring opportunity, he should have passed wide or launched the ball as Erikson had a man on him even before the pass. It’s not his fault. Eriksen got to the ball first and his pass was anticipated and intercepted. That is on him. I can name many players in the league that would have received that ball and turned the pressing player. Eriksen was too predictable. Pogba used to receive passes in that zone and batter any player trying to take the ball from him. OPTA didn’t count that incident as a De Gea error anyway so your opinion isn’t the fact. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:53pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: So the 2 goals took out just 0.7 points?
Base score of 6.0, and Sancho finished the game with 6.4 despite hiding all game? Shaw 6.1  Everyone starts at 6.0 The error would take some points out and the good things he did afterwards would add some points. The net score after 90 mins was 5.3.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:50pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
GoddyOra: Nah Eriksen doesn't deserve a 6/10 ahead of Maguire who gets a 3/10 that was easily United best defender.
Same Ericksen was directly involved in two goals causing United to lose the game. Man missed United only big chance created the whole game. (That chance was created by Rashford/Elanga I ain't sure).
That's why rating apps are better than blog ratings that is subjective to individual bias or sentiments.
Check Ericksen vs Ronaldo stats in the same game for better objectivity. 42 touches and 96.3% pass accuracy. Ronaldo is god, bro. WTF?? Expert17: So the 2 goals took out just 0.7 points?
Base score of 6.0, and Sancho finished the game with 6.4 despite hiding all game? Shaw 6.1  The 2nd goal wasn’t De Gea error. Eriksen wasn’t strong enough. Pogba would have received that ball and murdered the pressing player with sheer strength. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:44pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Fair enough, but I will work with the attached rating. This is an opinion. It’s not fact based. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:43pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Saves after giving out 2 goals??
He can't score more than 3 with such performance The base score is 6.0. Everyone starts from 6.0 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:39pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: No GK can have a rating of 5/10 after giving away 2 goals and shaky all game.
Shaw 6/10, Rashford 7/10, .... maybe I watched a different game What about the saves he made?  |