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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
CapitalCee:
Remove Rashford from that your list.
Yes i adore Haaland. But dont you ever disrespect Rooney, it seems you started watching football recently. Rooney was never a wait-and-tap-in striker like Haaland or even Lewandowski. Rooney played behind Duncan Ferguson at Everton and played behind Van Nistelrooy, Saha, Larsson, Solskjaer, Berbatov, Tevez and Van Persie at United and played behind Owen, Heskey etc in England, He is more of a Bruno-esque type of player. The only seasons he played as a striker he scored 34 goals in each of them despite having injury issues those seasons and not being a seasoned striker all his life. In fact in 2011/12 Fergie played him several times at CM not AM ooo. He still score 34 goals that season, while you are here creaming over Haaland who scored 40 goals playing in a Bundesliga where timo Werner and Havertz were scoring 30+ goals.
I don’t even know where to start with this one. Your entire write up is built on a false premise and I would attack each point one by one to prove it’s actually you that started watching football recently.

In 09/10 & 11/12, Rooney was a striker. He was never a CM or AM, his average position that season had him as the out and out striker. If he played as AM or CM, his PL’s number of assists won’t be 4, it would be closer to 20 that season. The day Bruno has only 4 assists in one season is the day he would retire.

A further look at his stats that season also showed Rooney had only 1.5 key passes per game(5th in the squad) and 4.6 shots per game(1st in the squad). That does not suggest he was used as CM or AM. He was the main striker and even at his very best, he could not deliver 35 goals per season. A 20 year old Haaland just did.

That same Bundesliga also produced Kevin De Bruyne that has strangled the Premier league for the past 5 years. KDB is now in the 10th position of the all time PL assists. The way you people rubbish other leagues only for their players to come to PL and make you consume your vomit always amuses me. Aubameyang, fresh from Bundesliga, made a mincemeat of the PL winning a golden boot but you tried to be clever by half by mentioning Werner and Havertz. grin

Bruno is from Portuguese league(a league considered 5 tiers lower than PL) and yet he’s putting everyone in the dust. If Haaland comes to the PL, all your favorites will have to retire because that boy is putting all of them in the grave. The only 20 year old you can compare to Haaland right now was a 20 year old Brazilian Ronaldo. Not even Messi was this potent at age 20.

Haaland is better than all your favorites. Argue with logic, not with emotions or some emotional attachment to one ex-player that many considered never lived up to expectation. Rooney was supposed to conquer the world, he never did.


CapitalCee:
Who is Haaland compared to 19/20 year old Rooney?
Rooney was leading England to Euro 2004 glory as an 18 year old before his injury against Portugal.
Haaland at 18 would have done the same in that team that contained Terry, Scholes, Owen, Ashley Cole, Hargreaves, etc. The whole leading England to EURO 2004 glory is also overrated. They beat Croatia & Switzerland(not exactly good teams). They lost scandalously to France and they lost to Portugal.

What’s the big deal? cheesy
Between you and I, who started watching football recently? It has to be you. Rooney was good but he’s not this ‘Haaland’ good. How do you explain Rooney never won the golden boot in England in 16 years? Did Ronaldo play as a striker to win it?

I am mature enough to give Haaland his flowers, you are too emotional to do it. How many 20 year olds have 20 CL goals? Rooney had 3 goals at 20. Rooney didn’t score his 20th CL goal until he was almost 25 years of age.

Cristiano had 3 UCL goals at 20, Messi had just 2 UCL goals at 20. Eden Hazard(Chelsea’s best player in the last 100 years) has just 9 UCL goals in his entire career. Is that who you are comparing to Rooney? Get help.

Whether Haaland’s career will be as successful as the aforementioned players is anyone’s guess but as of today while he’s still 20 years of age, he’s better than all of your favorites cloned together when they were 20.

Yeah, I said it. cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:58pm On May 22, 2021
hoopLA:
Somehow I don't dig the guy.

I know he's good.

I just can't emotionally spend a kobo on him.
I don't know why.
I’d sell Martial, Rashford, Daniel James, Lingard, Jones, Mata and Tuanzebe to get this guy.

He’s just 20 years of age for fück’s sake and Bundesliga has 4 fewer league games than other top 5 European leagues.

So imagine how many more he would score if Bundesliga has 38 league games? To put this in perspective, Rooney never scored 40 goals in any season in his career.

Haaland could be the next Ronaldo.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:47pm On May 22, 2021
Haaland has scored his 40th goal this season across all competitions.

This boy is a machine.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:48pm On May 21, 2021
jOsE moUriNhO rUiNS aTtACkiNG pLAyeRS. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:37pm On May 21, 2021
airmark:
I crossed them out cos they are bullsh11ts.
You crossed them out because you are a petulant child with hissy-fits. Once you are faced with facts, you throw your toys out of the pram.

A careful diagnosis would show you suffer from acute ADHD.

Seek help.

airmark:
How would any sane mind compare an Ex-2nd best player in the world with someone who was never the best player in his team in any of his 20 seasons?

Even Giggs was awarded Man utd player of the season, but when we asked about Scholes you told us that he was camera shy and other rubbish reasons like assists were not recorded for him.

Compare Lampard with only united players that had mounted Ballon d'or podium and go and find the likes of Eriksen, Ramires, Mikel Obi to compare your Scholes with.
Ballon d’Or is a popularity contest.

We all laughed as United fans when Beckham came 2nd(FIFA player of the year) twice in 99 and 2001. He was the least talented of the midfield quartet in that era.

Beckham is tiers below Giggs, Scholes and Keane so when Lampard also came 2nd twice, we laughed.

We get it. Henry gets it. He said it actually that Scholes never got any award because he never sought the limelight.

airmark:
You are Coogar, just be a man don't be a pxxxy.
You have two choices.

Prove with strong evidence that I am or shut the fück up.

So what it’s gonna be? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:21pm On May 21, 2021
airmark:
The same Scholes that never won Man utd player of the year, who would have given him EPL player of the year? grin grin grin

This is definitely Coogar with his wacky wacky yarns. Welcome back finally. grin grin grin grin
Are you a child?

What’s with the cross outs? Did you miss that experience as a toddler when children cross out words with felt pens on drawing sheets?

When they lose arguments to the illimitable, the other alternative is to brand me as Coogar. The same old and tired strategy that has put many moröns like yourself in shallow graves.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:17pm On May 21, 2021
Expert17:
If Lampard and Gerrard played with deadly attackers like RVP, Rooney, Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov, Sheringham, Cantona, Cole etc., I am sure they won't score up to 100 league goals.

Scholes: 499 games 107 EPL goals - 0 pk

Gerrard 504 games 120 EPL goals - 29 pk

Lampard 609 games 177 EPL goals - 32 pk
This is another way of looking at it. Imagine the number of penalties taken by these ‘world class’ midfielders to statpad and then claim greatness over Scholes?

Scholes - 499 PL games - 36,115 PL minutes

Gerrard - 504 PL games - 41,158 PL minutes

Lampard - 609 PL games - 48,909 PL minutes

Ryan Giggs - 632 PL games - 46,435 PL minutes.

Even though it may appear that Giggs has played the most number of PL games, Lampard has actually spent 2000PL more minutes on the pitch than Giggs(the grandfather of PL).

This is to tell you how often Lampard played, rarely misses PL games to injury cos he’s got similar genes like Maguire. He plays as a CAM, he’s the designated set piece taker of his team, scored from 43 penalty kicks in the PL. cheesy

Scholes scored from 1 PL penalty kick in his entire football career against West Ham in 99/2000 season. Even before considering anything else, Lampard already has a swing of 42 PL goals in his favor.

Yet, some idiötic Chelsea fans use these dubious stats to prop him up as the best midfielder in the PL. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
airmark:
See another flimsy excuse to defend Scholes even when Ferdinand spelt out his reasons and called Scholes his favourite United player. grin
I would take Ferguson’s words over Ferdinand’s.


airmark:
This is daftness unlimited from you.

First, Ronaldinho wasn't a midfielder so he doesn't know anything. Later, Ferdinand was having three-some with Lampard at West ham, so he loves him more than Scholes. If we bring Rijkaard's comment now, you will say because he had dreads on, we shouldn't listen to the mad man.

You are a joke. grin
You are the poster child of stupidity.

If I bring out all the quotes of football greats licking their lips over Scholes, you would get a gun and shoot Lampard yourself.



airmark:
Gerrard won UCL, the most glamorous club football competition in the world that Man city and Psg spent billions in order to win once.
But it’s PL hall of fame, not UCL hall of fame.

The stupidity in you cannot resist showing off itself.

airmark:
So will you rate Gabriel Jesus above Harry Kane because Jesus has EPL medals and Kane has none? Even the most insane Man utd fan here will know who he will pick as a better player between the two. Individual achievement over Team's achievement till we die.
Yet, your stupidity outshines everyone again by displaying itself unprovoked.

Scholes & Lampard didn’t even play in the same positions. We have exposed Lampard’s dubious number of minutes, outrageous numbers of set piece taken, etc.

Why are you comparing that to Jesus and Kane who played in the same position. I know why you are irritated about Scholes. He’s won more league titles than Chelsea- the club you foolishly support.

Scholes has more medals than your club that was established over 100 years ago. I am starting to think that’s your irritation. It’s not my fault that you foolishly choose to support a failing club.

Premier League Titles:

Scholes 11-6 Chelsea

airmark:
That's the difference between Bebe and Gerrard, he tried multiple times and failed on Gerrard. grin
Ferguson tried multiple times to sign many players. That means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Ferguson tried to sign Mikel Obi at 18, he even went to court on Mikel’s issue. That automatically makes Mikel Obi a world class player?

You’re a pleb!



airmark:
You are playing against the best players in the world not a league that consists of so many players who are not qualified to go to the world cup. Stop comparing local league competition to the most glamorous football competition in the world. Messi and Ronaldo will spit on your face for doing that.
One could mine idiocy from your gene pool.

Which best players in the world are you talking about? How many good teams did Croatia play on their way to the final? The winner of the world cup cannot face more than 7 teams at the World Cup, of which 4 of them are usually shit teams.

Brazil on their way to 2002 World Cup faced Turkey(twice), China, Costa Rica, England, Belgium and Germany. China and Belgium in 2002 had world class players in their squad in 2002?

airmark:
Comparing a world cup tournament in which all great players throughout the world converge is what you are comparing to a local league filled with players that won't make their national teams. grin

You should not be talking football, just go and create a thread for Ludo fans. grin
I am starting to believe you are a rētard.

The great players rarely face each other because of seeding. The group stage usually has one good team facing 1 average team and 2 dead teams for KO qualification.

Are you a morön? Remind us the teams England faced on their way to the s/final in Russia? How many world class players did England play against?



airmark:
A feat that earned him UEFA club footballer of the year, Third best player in the world, UCL final MOTM, UEFA team of the century.
If we ask about Scholes' now, they will call it popularity contest, Polling booth awards, we will be reading that at his peak, some people stole the ballot box where Scholes was voted. grin
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How many Ballon d'or did this most talented player win at Man utd?
Even Scholes would slap you for this.
The devil is in the details.

Paul Scholes was the heart & soul of a team that dominated England for close to 20 years. He was never replaced or discarded in those 20 years that brought gazillion titles that the club you support may never win.

If he’s a shit player, there’s no way he’s commanding his position for 20 years. Many pretenders came and left but Scholes remained for 2 decades. United haven’t won a league title since Scholes finally retired.

Even when Roy Keane, Beckham, etc left, Paul Scholes remained and there was no title drought. United kept winning 3 PL titles back to back while Scholes was the main architect of those victories. I mean, one can be stupid but your own stupid is unrivaled.

That’s the dude you are comparing to Lampard the journeyman? If Lampard is so world class like you claim to be, how come his close to 20 years in PL football didn’t bring at least 10 league titles for the club he played for?

When they tell urchins like you to stay in school and learn logic, you refuse and start chasing women. You might actually be the most stupid Chelsea fan I have been unfortunate to come across in my life. Like, how do you manage to navigate daily challenges with this obscene levels of stupidity? grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
patrickmuf:
Actually, I just wanted you to see that it isn't factual relying on the quotes of others...

Schokes was a proper CM even though he excelled as a CAM early in his career...Comparing him to Lampard and Gerard is unfair as they both spent their peak years playing as CAMs...
Ask him how many of Lampard’s assists were from open play?

Scholes never took corners or indirect freekicks to pad up stats. As soon as Ole put Shaw in set piece duties, his chance creation and assist stats almost quadrupled.

The other factor is Scholes played deeper in a 4-4-2 formation as a CM for most of his career. Another factor is Lampard played 11,000 PL minutes more than Scholes.

11,000 PL minutes is 122 PL games more. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:08pm On May 20, 2021
airmark:
Ferdinand played with Scholes and he ditched Scholes for Lampard when he was asked to choose from the trio of Lampard, Scholes and Gerrard.
If you have any football IQ, you would know Ferdinand and Lampard were team mates at West Ham.


airmark:
I will be waiting for your excuse on why Ferdinand went for the former 2nd best player in the world or name a Chelsea legend that preferred Scholes. grin
Former EPL player of the season. Scholes never smelt such feat.
Let me reiterate………..

Ferdinand and Lampard were best of friends as youth players. They did everything together from age 16 to 21. They shared rooms, traveled together, did everything together, did 3somes together.

Besides, what would Ferdinand know about a midfield player? Ferdinand knows more about players than Alex Ferguson that managed the most successful football club in England for 26 years?

airmark:
Modric won World cup's best player award now how did his exploits in another tournament influence that award?. Lame excuse at its best.
This is daftness unlimited.

Anybody can win a tournament’s best player. It’s a month old competition and even a dog knows there’s an element of luck in a competition like the World Cup where you don’t have to play everybody in the competition to win the trophy.

The league is a complete kettle of fish. All the teams involved in the competition get to play each other. It’s the truest form of competition and this is why they say the league table tells no lies.

For Gerrard to have missed winning it once in 18 years simply shows he’s a failure. Modric faced a total of 7 teams out of the 32 teams that participated at the World Cup. Only a complete möron would even attempt to compare a tournament like the World Cup to a league system. cheesy

airmark:
Beckham was top assists provider in Epl for 3 seasons, who did the counting? You want to wrap your man's lakuregbe assists stats away from our prying eyes abi?
Ludicrous. Ghosts must have counted Beckham's assists. Maybe Scholes career died before 1996 and you want them to call such player that served below par performances in his last 15yrs according to you, Hall of famer?
You are reeling out fake stats.

airmark:
The same Ferguson that rubbished Gerrard as a poor player only for Gerrard to expose him that he wanted to sign him multiple times and the old man became quiet since then.
Ferguson wanted and signed Bebe, Bebe must be world class.

airmark:
Meanwhile, Ferguson called Giggs world class and he is in my list. Oya fight that too.
Giggs alone out of all the bums you mentioned. grin




airmark:
This is meaningless.

When Ortega was running things for Argentina and his club, Messi was in his parents backyard watching how he could one day be as great as Ortega. grin
Ortega didn’t win 11 league titles.


airmark:
Only a retardd will not see anything wrong in Modric winning the World cup's best playeraward without winning the tournament but faults Gerrard's hall of fame induction.
Stop comparing luck-fueled tournament football to a league system.

If you are playing 7 teams out of 32 to win a trophy and comparing it to league system where you play everyone twice then you shouldn’t have an opinion in football matters.

airmark:
Gerrards individual feat in UCL, Scholes would always dream of having such but it will never come to pass.
Individual feat that amounted to diving to earn a penalty? cheesy


airmark:
If we ask what individually did Scholes do now in his 20 seasons at Man utd you will tell us his stats were not recorded at his peak.

We have other players stats but for Scholes snake swallowed the paper where his assists and goals were recorded as if he played only in the 80s. grin
Scholes is the most talented player that came out of Manchester in the last 50 years. His peers said so, his opponents have said so and he has 11 league titles to show for it.

Gerrard has 0 PL titles in 18 attempts. If you fail an exam 18 times, you shouldn’t get any honor from the board of that exam. The only thing Gerrard should be honored for is certificate of attendance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:14pm On May 20, 2021
airmark:
This means nothing.

Xavi is an individual like Ronaldinho that called Lampard the best player ever to play in EPL. Their opinions are theirs, not the governing body's.
Xavi is a central midfielder - he would know. Xavi isn’t the only one that had Scholes as the best English midfielder of all time. If I put quotes here, you would run away. It’s a tired topic.

airmark:
You can be a shy player but your outstanding performances would definitely attract awards. Ngolo Kante will laugh at your 'camera shy' excuses.
Football reporting wasn’t wall to wall like we have these days when Scholes was at his peak. Who’s Kante?

airmark:
No. Gone were the days people were deceived by players hiding under team's achievements to raise shoulder. Modric didn't win the last world cup but he was honoured for being outstanding individually more than those in the team that won it.
Modric won the CL and also took a very average Croatia team to the final of a World Cup. His achievement in 2018 was unparalleled apart from Varane.

Varane plays for France - who are expected to win big things anyway. So Modric got all the accolades deservedly.

airmark:
Gerrard was top assists provider in Epl , i am not sure Scholes topped in assists even in Man utd in one season in his 20 seasons in Epl.
That’s the point.

Nobody was counting assists when Scholes was at his peak.

airmark:
This must be a joke.

Take away Beckham, Giggs, Cole, Yorke, from that squad that dominated, Scholes would have been sold to Fulham.
Yet when the greatest manager of all time was asked the number of world class players he managed, SAF mentioned Scholes and Ronaldo. He didn’t mention all those bums on your list. grin

airmark:
Take away Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney, Scholes would have been left with his long sideways passes amounting to nothing like Hamas rockets.
Scholes won it without these ones in 1999.

Another ridiculous point!


airmark:
Gerrard and Lampard retired Scholes from the national team for a reason.
And England went on to win the Euros and the World Cup back to back after Scholes retired, didn’t they?

When Scholes was running the midfield for England and Man Utd, Gerrard and Lampard were in their parents backyard watching how they could one day be as great as Scholes.


airmark:
Only dolts would query Gerrard's induction in the hall of fame because his team didn't win Epl.
And only a retärd that has been sectioned to 22 different mental institutions would advocate for Gerrard into the hall of fame without ever winning the competition.

The aim of creating any competition is to determine a winner If Gerrard knew Liverpool weren’t good enough as a team to win the competition, why didn’t he leave? Part of being a good footballer is making a decision that supports your ambition - I doubt he had any.

Ronaldo could have stayed in Lisbon all his life. Messi could have returned to Argentina to keep in touch with his roots. Zidane could have remained in Cannes all his career or fat Ronaldo could have turned down the opportunity of coming to Europe when he was 18.

All these players made big decisions to leave the comfort zones of their homes and get into clubs that align with their ambitions. It’s not Buhari’s fault Gerrard stayed in a club that couldn’t win the PL. He should take responsibility for his decision.

If you make excuses for failure, it’s perhaps because you are a failure yourself. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:17pm On May 20, 2021
airmark:
You guys should stop using only Team's achievement to rate players.

Did Scholes ever win Player of the season award in all the 20 seasons he played for Man utd? Even Epl team of the year he only made it twice, Gerrard 8 times.
And when Xavi was asked who was the best player he had seen in 20 years, whose name did he mention?

Player of the season award is a popularity contest. Scholes was a ginger, camera shy, didn’t give a fück about granting interviews to journos and pundits who drive the narrative of who to give the award.

Is it not illogical that a player who couldn’t win one league title in about 18 years to be inducted into the ball of fame?

Paul Scholes was the reason United won all those titles. It’s not a team achievement. He retired and he was brought back again to win it in SAF’s last season. Scholes was everything Gerrard dreamt to be and never was.

Only idiöts would put Gerrard ahead of Scholes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:09pm On May 20, 2021
Expert17:
David Beckham was selected before Scholes, Terry, Viera, Rooney, Ferdinard, Cech and Schmeichel.

English FA stupid sha grin
Once they put Gerrard before Scholes, I confirmed their stupidity.

Scholes has 11 PL medals to Gerrard’s 0. This is like a popularity contest to them. It’s got nothing to do with footballing ability.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:02pm On May 19, 2021
Mrviktor:
Rashford dey annoy me these days..

He needs to chop small benching Biko.

Everytime dribble dribble dribble
Rashford has the DNA.

That’s the only thing that matters, not football skills.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:30pm On May 19, 2021
hoopLA:
Lol.
You expect too much of the Scandinavian Christian Chukwu.
Someone who can't get the best out of Cavani,Pogba,Fernandez?
Someone who can't take 6 points each off relegated teams and loses 6 times in one season at home?

Lol.

The white Willy Bazuaye who doesn't know his left from right will be easily swayed by the media.
cheesy grin cheesy grin
This guy won’t kill me on this thread.

White Bazuaye?

Olesexuals in the mud for the umpteenth time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:28pm On May 19, 2021
patrickmuf:
All but confirms he is leaving...I remember when he burst into the scene, I thought to myself that he is just another overrated English lad, turns out I was wrong...Top player...
United should have signed him back then in 2014 or early 2015.

SAF would have certainly signed him. The fools sitting in United’s board these days don’t have any ambition. They will rather save money for the Glazers.

I cannot think of any top English striker that Ferguson didn’t want. He bought Andy Cole(British record fee), chased Shearer to the end of the world before that one stupidly signed for Newcastle and wasted his career.

Ferguson signed Rooney as soon as he could lay his hands on him. He signed Owen in the twilight of his career - but that was because Liverpool wouldn’t have sold Owen to United. The beef between the two clubs was huge in the late 90s.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:15pm On May 19, 2021
Joezinho:
Levy is to be blamed for the mess that Tottenham Spurs is in by firing Mourinho. You wont find another quality coach like JM for Spurs.

Tottenham's problem surely isn't Mourinho..
They are just a bunch of players without winning mentality... Stupid club..
Kane has scored one goal, zero assist since Mourinho left. They have played 6 games since then.

They have a cultural reboot and Mason is starting players with the club’s DNA. Everyone is happy, Dele is smiling and Harry Winks is delighted.

That’s all that matters. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:59pm On May 19, 2021
Kane shedding tears after the game.

What a legend for Spurs.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:23pm On May 19, 2021
Tottenham had one shot on target in the 8th minute and nothing else throughout that half.

I am wondering whether Ryan Mason told them to sit back and defend with their lives.

If this was Mourinho, that would be the narrative. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:35pm On May 19, 2021
hoopLA:
I pray to Jah this is DAILY Fail's usual BS reporting.

But as long as it is the Norwegian Fanny Amun, I can't be too sure that it isn't real.
I am not even happy that everyone wants Ole to sign new strikers.

Won’t the new striker disturb the development of the players with United-DNA like Greenwood or Rashford?

Why can’t Ole coach what he’s got into perfection like Mourinho was asked to?

When it was Mourinho, the squad was good enough to finish as champions.

Now that it’s Ole, everyone wants him to buy top players to enable him become a champion.

I despise these double standards.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:56pm On May 19, 2021
Expert17:
Using your logic, Golden boot isn't only a striker's achievement. The attacking midfielders, RW and LW all contribute to the achievements.
A striker still has to put the ball in the net. A goalie might not make a single save in a game to keep a clean sheet.

Two different issues.


Expert17:
Pick one:

Option A:
A goal keeper with the best save
A striker that scored the best goal

Option B:
Goal keeper with the highest clean sheet
Striker with the highest goals.
Goalkeepers and strikers aren’t the same thing.

There are many games where a team doesn’t even concede a single shot on target because of how brilliant the defence is.

Yet, the keeper reaps where he didn’t sow by getting undeserved credits of a clean sheet.

A striker has to score a goal to even think of golden boot.

Golden boot is an individual award.
Keeping a clean sheet isn’t.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:57pm On May 19, 2021
Expert17:
Joe Hart has 4 EPL Golden Gloves awards, Edwin Van der sar with 1.

Who would you pick as a Coach?
Golden glove isn’t only a goalkeeper’s achievement. The defenders in front of him also make sure he doesn’t concede stupid goals. They all contribute to the achievements.

You are trying to be clever by half.

I said save of the season. - Maguire or Bailly will not help any goalkeeper to win the save of the season award. It’s an individual achievement.

So try again. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:39pm On May 19, 2021
Expert17:
Yh, the way he saved this pass

grin
De Gea has 5 MOTD’s save of the season awards in his kitty.

Henderson has what? grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:51pm On May 19, 2021
No way De Gea isn’t saving this Firmino header.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:43pm On May 19, 2021
Expert17:
I am not the only one that feel De Gea has past his best. Spain coach, OLE and co said so too.
De Gea is Spain’s #1


Expert17:
@image below

Wow, Pogba was doing a great job. grin grin
Pogba isn’t a defender, Bissaka(a fullback for that matter) is.


Expert17:
Almost might be in10 years time. tongue tongue
He goes back to Sheffield United next summer. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
Expert17:
According to your analysis Henderson should have saved a free header.


So why are you blaming AWB for a free header De Gea should be saving?
So every free header is a savable shot? grin

I am not the only one that felt Henderson should have caught Firminho’s shot. Scholes said so too.

He was right there and it was a from a set piece unlike the De Gea one that was open play. Bissaka did an awful job and Bryan placed that header down unlike the Firminho goal that was placed within an arm’s reach of Henderson.

The Henderson fairytale is almost over. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:55pm On May 18, 2021
MRTA7:
Ndidi Iheanacho combo.
Ndidi is a beast.

He won that ball like Makelele and laid the pass like Xavi.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:54pm On May 18, 2021
eph12:
Bissaka was drawn out by the guy he's supposed to be marking and other players in front of him. Who was supposed to watch the run of opposition full backs or wing backs? AWB na superhuman? He is still required to run forward every time to join the attack
Bissaka wasn’t drawn to anyone.

The outside was always the danger, not the inside. Lindelof and De Gea had the inside covered if the ball drops there.

Bissaka didn’t even know Bryan was on the outside . He never saw him until the last moment. He’s very poor. He has conceded about a dozen goals like that previously so it’s a habitual weakness.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:28pm On May 18, 2021
Expert17:
That weak pass to Degea?

grin
Weak because De Gea held position.

Henderson would have jumped and missed the ball while rushing out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:02pm On May 18, 2021
Mrviktor:
Degea that saved our asses like 4 times.

Una ehhh
That save when Lindelof was bullied by a bottom tier forward?

Henderson would have rushed out and conceded.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:59pm On May 18, 2021
MRTA7:
This is the team they want to only add Kane to and expect something.
We need:-

RB
CB
CDM
RW

before we should even consider a striker.

Wan Bissaka is a ticking time bomb.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:33pm On May 18, 2021
LMDyaya:
And this is almost the starting line up in poland, smh


I just hope we win europa, and then ole can geddifok
If he wins Europa, he gets a new contract.

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