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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:18pm On Jul 26, 2021
raumdeuter:
Perisic club career so far has been mediocre, the treble at Bayern, he was a bench player for most of it which was why Bayern declined to sign him for anything more than 10M for a bench player

Will you take Willian at the moment when you have Greenwood, dont forget Willian won the Copa America and Europa cup
I would take Willian in 2018 over Martial. I was happy with Perisic’s potential signing at the start of 2017/18 too.

United had signed Lukaku and the manager then felt there wasn’t an out and out winger that hugs the touchline and can deliver crosses to the big centre forward. He singled out Perisic for that specific task but the idiötic pundits on TV said Perisic was too old and he would affect Martial’s development.

What has Martial produced since then? Nothing. There are rumours United are about to flog him to Dortumund to effect the arrival of Haaland. If Martial is so reliable, why buy Cavani, Ighalo or what not?

Martial flatters to deceive. He flopped for 3 years straight and his cult followers attributed his failure to the fact that his #9 shirt was given to Zlatan. Man is 26 and we are still waiting for a manager to develop him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:11pm On Jul 26, 2021
BikeMan:
Now that Varane is coming, does the excuse of the board not backing the clueless one still stand?
It doesn’t stand.

Olesexuals have already lined up Pogba’s potential departure as an excuse. If Ole fails to win this season, they are going to say Pogba left thus disrupting Ole’s plan.

If Pogba doesn’t leave, they would say he’s unsettled and that has caused a bit of confusion in the dressing room. It’s like you don’t know the people you are dealing with.

The same rētards that all agreed here last season Ole deserves a sack if he didn’t win the Europa league have been kee-keeing with joy since he signed a new contract.

Ole could go 20 years without a trophy and his cult followers would see progress. If it’s not cultural reboot, it’s the average squad age or some other irrelevant stats.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:09pm On Jul 26, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

They played 2nd Half, when the Team already battered.
I will be here when Shoretire gets sold to Accra Hearts of Oak.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:04pm On Jul 26, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

Same QPR hammered us 4 Goals to 2. Thanks to both Elanga and Shola for the consolation Goal.
Which proves the players you are hyping are not good. grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:00pm On Jul 26, 2021
Kelvinsteve1000:
Yeah sadly, Not that I want Rice at man u, but had west ham offered a swap with lingard, I will gladly accept it. My choice for that CDM is definetly Ndidi but Camvaniga as rumored won't be bad. Who do you think we should sign for that CDM?
Rice vs Ndidi. grin cheesy

Rice isn’t particularly good at anything. If he wasn’t born an English player, he would be trafficking illegal immigrants in a truck from Calais.

He’s English though so expect his transfer fee to be double that of Ndidi. Rice’s zero talents get praised more and some idiotic United fans prefer him to Ndidi cos SkySports said so.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:35pm On Jul 26, 2021
Oasis007:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p3Nc4cbBg

Ain't sure you're following Academy Players. Elanga, Hannibal, Shoretire are top talents. Shoretire is 17yrs, yet he had 2 Assists so far...... in 2 Preseason Matches.

The Trio I mentioned have future at United as Rashford, Greenwood and Co.
2 assists against which teams in preseason? QPR and which other club? grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:29pm On Jul 26, 2021
raumdeuter:
I dont know how much they are paying for Varane. Moreover defenders age slower than attackers so a 28yr old defender is still elite and can deliver since they dont put mileage as much like attackers

The media said Perisic will disturb Martial because Perisic is not significantly better than Martial despite being older.

Perisic club career was to be bundled out of Wolfsburg, Dortmund, bench player on loan at Bayern who Bayern refused to sign permanently, and Inter. There was nothing in Perisic career that was outstanding at that point

You think if it was Neymar at 28 or an elite player at 28 fans will object?

E.g you have Greenwood now then the coach decides to bring in 28yr old Willian, will you be wrong for objecting to it vs if it was 28yr old Salah
Perisic - A very intelligent winger that contributed immensely to Croatia getting into a World Cup final and a treble winner is not significantly better than Martial?

What has Martial achieved in his career apart from YouTube clips made by his cult followers?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:05pm On Jul 26, 2021
timay:
You do know that Gomes wasn't discarded right?

Infact, he was offered new contract multiple times which he declined to go on a free to Liile. Only for those ones to end up loaning him again. The same loan that he doesn't want to go with Man united.
This is like saying Lukaku wasn’t discarded. They don’t have to give you a sack letter before you know you are not wanted. Ole told Lukaku to play on the wing to accommodate Rashford. That was the sign he needed to see to know Ole doesn’t respect him.

Players with ambition don’t feed on crumbs. Gomes wanted first team appearances and he wasn’t getting it - same as a Pogba in 2012. They forced their move with the aim of proving themselves elsewhere.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:02pm On Jul 26, 2021
raumdeuter:
what is the total amount spent on Ighalo, Cavani and Heaton transfer fees and what is the amount Perisic was quoted for
How much are they paying for Varane at the same age? cheesy

Money wasn’t even the issue with Perisic. The media said Perisic would disturb Martial’s development.

Ole’s cultural reboot and the trust in youth policy has signed 4 pensioners in less than 3 years. The contracts of Mata(33) and Grant(38), etc have also been recently renewed.

Who is fooling who?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:52pm On Jul 26, 2021
timay:
Your bolded argument was what the 12 foolish EPL small teams made for voting against the 5 sub rule. At the end of the day, they got affected more than the big teams. I'm sure they know better now.
How did they get affected more than big teams? How many points did the small teams get from big teams? Would City have lost 5 points to a newly promoted Leeds if the 5 subs rule was allowed?

timay:
A big team with squad depth can still rotate their teams by started different line ups for different games, so it makes no difference if they have 5 subs because the rotation has been done before the games begin. So that Argument doesn't make sense to me.
This is a silly argument.

A big team with squad depth can only use a maximum of 14 players in any game under the current rule. All the small teams in PL can match that strength with a full XI and any 3 decent players on their bench.

It’s a better coping mechanism than having to compete with 16 players in every game. Most small clubs don’t have 16 decent players in their squad to cope with the big teams.

14 problems are easier to deal with than 16 problems, it’s a no brainer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:46pm On Jul 26, 2021
Oasis007:
McTominay
Rashford
Greenwood



Pogba

And many others with superior talents made it at United.
Isn’t that the point? These guys were the best in their class.

Elanga and those other bums won’t make it. They are not even as talented as Angel Gomes and Gomes has since been discarded to Lille.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:40pm On Jul 26, 2021
patrickmuf:
Is it too early to say the changes at the footballing department of the club is yielding the desired result or is it just a coincidence?

One thing is certain, the Glazers have played their part... Hopefully we sign a DM and if Pogba leaves, we sign another CM...
That is the biggest priority in my own opinion and I think it’s a blind spot for the so called 58 scouts working for the club.

How can they not see McFred will never deliver a title?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:24pm On Jul 26, 2021
Oasis007:
Both will make it at United.
Januzaj
Macheda
Will Keane
James Wilson

and many others with superior talents didn’t make it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:21pm On Jul 26, 2021
Some people are used to failure on this thread.

This supposed-to-have-been-aborted feral animal is actually calling a perennial failure a golden boy while the one that won a treble and a serial A title a season later is washed up.

This idiocy is irredeemable. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
SammyFX:
Man utd is closing in on varane deal check Fabrizio reports...feel it a done deal already
Since Ole was hired, he has signed

Ighalo(31)
Cavani(34)
Heathon(35)
Varane(28).

Nobody is talking about how any of these pensioners would stop the development of Greenwood, Rashford, Henderson and Tuanzebe respectively.

I remember a certain manager wanted to sign Perisic, the media and some idiötic fans were against it because Perisic was too old for United at 28 years of age plus he was going to stop the development of Martial.

Perisic has gone on to win a TREBLE since then while the protected golden youths have won nothing. The hypocrisy of United fans is highly disgusting.

There’s no shame whatsoever.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:41pm On Jul 26, 2021
Oasis007:
Amad Diallo: 19yrs
Jadon Sancho: 21yrs
Anthony Elanga: 19yrs
Mason Greenwood: 19yrs
Shola Shoratire: 17yrs
Marcus Rashford: 23yrs
Facundo Pellestri: 19yrs

Future is bright attacking-wise.
Only 2 or 3 players will make it from that list.

Shoretire and Elanga would be playing for West Brom by 2024.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:29am On Jul 26, 2021
GloryIsaac:
No need making a mountain out of a molehill for a player that hasn’t even joined the team.

Perspectives don’t have to align. Let him get signed first.
Neves is shït!

He falls short of what United need in that midfield. United need a specialist DM/enforcer that would mow down anything in front of the back four.

Neves will be another Van de Beek. He would play 3-5 games at the start of the season and football fans would realize he’s not the guy United need to fix that midfield.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:14pm On Jul 25, 2021
Spy360:
I am more interested in the welfare of the players. Again even the advantage of bringing in a 55m sub can still be utilised in the next game which will even be more affective. It makes no difference, since like you pointed out, they hardly use it.
The players will be fine. This season will be starting in August so it won’t be a mad rush like last season when the season started like 6 weeks late.

The smaller clubs don’t have the luxury of bringing on five £50m players to win a game or grab an equalizer. I remember Klopp was crying about 5 subs last Christmas - trying to convince everyone that players need protection.

Guess what he did in the next game against Spurs at Anfield…..He made no substitutions throughout the game. If you don’t use any of the 3 subs available, why need 5?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:51pm On Jul 25, 2021
Spy360:
I think it's needed now due to the stress footballers go through these days. There are too many games and too many competitions. The advantage small teams gain from playing fewer matches the big teams will make up using squad depth.
They should keep it the way it is.

3 subs are more than ok for a 90 minute game. 5 subs would aid big teams like Man City who can afford to bring £55m signings from the bench to change the the tide of a game.

Then again, the managers of the big clubs crying about 5 subs are just capping. That Norwegian fraud didn’t even use any substitute in the Europa final in normal time. So why does he need 5?

Many of the managers in the top 6 didn’t make use of the maximum allowed 3 substitutes in some of the biggest games last season. One can hardly argue for 5 subs when they struggle to even make use of the 3 available.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:58pm On Jul 24, 2021
eph12:
From the way we played in the first half, I already knew this was a waste of time. These boys are not learning anything in training, it's just vibes. They should just give everyone new massive contracts
The boys cannot learn anything from a dullard. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:54pm On Jul 24, 2021
raumdeuter:
Congrats on the Ole extension

We Ole fans are happy
One must know he’s in big trouble when rival fans are happy that a manager signed an extension.

This is going to be the longest drought in the club’s history.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:55pm On Jul 24, 2021
Joezinho:
grin grin

Ole gollum at it again.
Failure is in his DNA.

If Ole was the manager of that Italian side in the Euros, he would have crashed them out in the group stage.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:36pm On Jul 23, 2021
LostMyZeal:
You didn't even get my point and you're mentioning SAF.

What I meant was simple; NO FVCKIN BODY IS BIGGER THAN MUFC!!!


And again, you'd be very mistaken to think I don't know that OLE is the biggest problem we have.

I have said that's countless times but then it's obvious that the club want to stick with him. So, Pogba must have done his assessments and come to a decision - which is to leave the club.

Pogba will definitely leave the club and that's no breaking news because myself I can't advise my enemy to play under OLE except if there's a hope that the idiot will be sacked.

My problem is the fallacy that if Pogba leaves our own dun finish.

That's like the biggest BS I have ever come across either by reading or hearing
shocked shocked shocked
Zlatan left and una own don finish. grin

Pogba’s departure would lengthen the drought. Nobody was bigger than MUFC(Fergie era). That narrative has changed now.

If a big player of Pogba’s status leaves, United would struggle unless he’s replaced with a similar quality and there are few players in the world that are as good as Pogba.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:08pm On Jul 23, 2021
BlueAngel444:
ahh, I think say na only me think am o. I just no talk when some of una fans dey hype the shirt grin
United fans on this thread will hype any shït. To them, everything is club rivalry. This has beclouded their senses to even speak the truth.

This is why they also hype Ole and some of them stupidly think Ole can finish above Pep, Klopp and Tuchel in a PL competition that has 38 games.

If you give Ole the United squad of 2007/8, he still wouldn’t win the PL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:01pm On Jul 23, 2021
GloryIsaac:
It’s the logo. We aren’t yet familiar with it.

Maybe a darker red would have made it better too.
It’s not the logo, guys. That shirt is ugly.

The neck, the fit and the sleeves. Look at how the sleeves are loose on Sancho’s biceps. United can’t even quality shirts from Adidas again under Ole.

Have you guys seen Inter’s shirt? United’s shirt looks like a rag next to it.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:09pm On Jul 23, 2021
This is the worst football shirt in history.

Everything under this Norwegian plonker has gotten worse. Shirt looking like what a roadside tailor made in Onitsha.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:56pm On Jul 23, 2021
Expert17:
After series of errors in the 2018/2019 season, his salary was raised from 200k to 375k. (not 250k not 270 or even 300k but 375k)

175k increase.

A stupid decision from the board.
Rooney was paid £300,000 per week as far back as 2014.

All of a sudden, Pogba at £375k/week in 2019 is a blasphemy. grin cheesy

World class players command world class wages. Pay up or replace Pogba with another fraud like Schneiderlin or Pereira(£150K/week).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:51pm On Jul 23, 2021
LostMyZeal:
Imagine the audacity to spew such blasphemy.
Are you kidding me?
Beckham left, e no be for us
CR7 left, e no be for us
Rooney, Giggs and co have left as well and we're still hanging there

Some Pogba lovers dun already tell us say Pogba can hardly thrive in the spotlight

And then you contradict them by saying the team's formation should be set up around Pogba's abilities.


Pogba's Lovers abeg make una clarify oh. Me I dun confuse
It’s this nonsense arrogance from United fans that makes me laugh.

You haven’t won a spoon since Zlatan left.

You are comparing the era of Alex Ferguson when United would have had 5 Pogba replacements in their squad to the present idiöt that doesn’t know how to build a team?

When will you people learn? This lunatic sold Lukaku and replaced him with Ighalo when he had the opportunity to sign Haaland & you are talking about Beckham?

When you finish 6th next season, you would be throwing tantrums like someone that lost his bride to the best man. You can see a problem right before you and you are unperturbed because Beckham & Ronaldo left under Ferguson and United still won.

Ferguson and Ole are the same, right? grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:24pm On Jul 22, 2021
melodyogonna:
We won't know until Pogba leaves now would we? You say this as if we won the league with Pogba here lmao. If Pogba leaves we only need to replace him with somebody just as technical ... and hopefully more serious on the ball.

I don't understand why you think we should reward him based on his performance for France, I won't comment on that but I can't think of many things less likely.
Even Keane or Scholes wouldn’t win anything with McFred - that’s the point.

The midfield is the most important area of any team as they are responsible for shielding the defence and also supporting the attack. Yet, United have the weakest midfield in the top 6 by a distance.

Why would any serious team pay over the odds for Pogba and not get him an elite supporting cast that would free him of too much defensive responsibility? It’s insane a player as creative as Pogba is stuck in the DM position in a club as big as United.

Pogba has hinted several times he has more freedom in France but the idiotic manager at Man Utd feel differently. Pogba said “We were already playing with three midfielders [at Juventus], in 5-3-2. I had the freedom, I had to be in the box, to attack. It was an obligation. In Manchester, I have the freedom to go into the box, but the priority is to play and defend.”

We play in a diamond in France. I am a little more in the transmission, in the construction. But I have more freedom than in Manchester to enter the box, to make runs forwards..

Any sensible manager would mirror France’s set up in the midfield at his club if he wants to get the very best out of him. Instead of that, the möronic Solskjaer went to buy Van de Beek who he had no need for. He wasted funds when all he needed to do was to get an elite CDM with the same combative attributes like Ngolo Kante.

We won’t know until Pogba leaves, right? We saw this happen when Lukaku left. The question on the lips of every Man Utd fan was why was Lukaku allowed to go or why wasn’t he replaced with the same quality. Some of you guys are already addicted to feeling remorseful after the fact.

I reiterate, United will go another 50 miles further from the PL title if they sell Pogba. Pogba is the heart and soul of that team that Ole is misusing because Ole is clueless. Elite managers know what to do with Pogba. That Ole is mentally incompetent has nothing to do with Pogba.

I would leave this quote from Wijnaldum here….

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:30pm On Jul 21, 2021
Oasis007:
If Pogba wanna leave this Season, he should be freed to leave for at least €50m. Ed and Co would be stupid to accept his 400k per week demand (if its true by the way.

If we lose Pogba, it means nothing..... absolutely nothing, especially as far as OGS is still on the Wheel. Hence why holding on a Player who wants himself out of the Club?

Every TW, it's always about him leaving or staying. Enough should be enough. I like PP a lot, but won't be disapointed if he leaves this Summer.
If you lose Pogba, you will not win the PL till 2026.

Pogba is a world class player. After his last showing at the Euros, he deserves £400,000 per week. De Gea is on £375,000 per week. Putting an extra £25,000 per week on top of what De Gea earns for Pogba isn’t a big deal.

Retain Pogba, sign Ndidi and forget all those bums the media are parading lately. Neves, Goretzka, Rice, Camavinga, etc have nothing on Pogba. If Pogba leaves, it would be 1 step forward, 9 steps backwards. And this is why I keep saying Solskjaer is a möron.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:18pm On Jul 13, 2021
Man Utd fans don’t deserve Pogba.

Pogba left the competition in the round of 16 and no other midfielder was able to make more through passes than Paul Pogba.

Pogba is too good to be playing for United.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:37pm On Jul 13, 2021
raumdeuter:
Doing this(waiting for the last minute) unsettles the shooter unlike if you just jump like a frog hoping to get lucky
I remember Cristiano also pausing doing his run up against Cech in Moscow. Cech didn’t move an inch. By the time Ronaldo kicked the ball, he had lost momentum and the shot was a bit weak, Cech smartly saved it.

Another kicker with that technique is once the goalie doesn’t do what the shooter expects from him, the shooter becomes lost or confused and he’s more likely to miss his shot. I have seen this happen more than 100 times.

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