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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:00pm On May 29, 2021
timay:
Rashford just dey yarn dust since that Wednesday night, after stinking up the joint and playing nonsense.

He always have things to say, when sometimes a simple silence can help. That Charity thing, is now getting to his head. Make the guy sha calm down before he starts getting sucked by politicians into propaganda.
The first thing he did after the loss on Wednesday was to chat with Obama. grin

The plan was to distract the fans from his abysmal performance. Who gives a shit about Obama? He just contributed to a final loss and he thought he could pull a wool over our eyes with some Obama BS.

This is why we need an elite manager with a winner mentality. I knew the club was doomed when they sacked Jose. His “win at all cost” mentality is exactly what this club needs to get us out of this loser mentality Ole has brought into the fray.

Ole has contrived to turn this club to Tottenham: Play semi-sexy football, finish top 4 and win nothing. Get into the advanced stages of every competition and bottle it in the final or semi-final hurdle.

United have slipped permanently into mediocrity.

What a shame!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:46pm On May 29, 2021
Winners win, losers will always look for excuses.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:41pm On May 28, 2021
elrony:
Since we are likely stuck with Amaka next season and I can't jump ship for another club, the decision makers should please help us get quality players that are even better than some of the rams starting for us.

Should in case he gets booted out, the next manager would still have quality tools at his disposal. I can't stand that bench.
The big clubs with loads of ambition are already doing the business.

Konate and Alaba got signed today by Liverpool and Real Madrid respectively while your decision makers are still picking their nostrils.

After Euro 2020, the price of so many average players would go through the roof because they could overperform at the tournament.

Man Utd is doomed and the rot starts from the top.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:29pm On May 28, 2021
Expert17:
4 weeks paternity leave for a footballer towards the business end of the season ... will OLE give/accept this for Maguire, Cavani or Bruno?
It’s a personal issue. De Gea and his partner have been trying for that baby for years. Why would any sensible manager deny his player that moment?

United already had top 4 locked down and City were running away with the title.

There was nothing to play for.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:10pm On May 28, 2021
BARAJ92:
Forget this story, How many did Degea concede against Leicester in 2014 so forget this agenda of him conceding 3 against relegated Sheffield United.
Leicester weren’t relegating in 2014.

Sheffield United had relegated when Henderson got impregnated thrice at Old Trafford.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:08pm On May 28, 2021
Expert17:
I'm comparing this current Degea with Henderson not De Gea of 1946........ Maybe we should resign Vidic and Ferdinard since you want to rely on past glories.

Show me DDG pk stat cheesy cheesy

Henderson is a bum? The same GK that relegated DDG to Europa league and Cup games ??
The same gk that was targeted by Chelsea, Spurs, Bayern Munich last summer?



Even OLE confessed that he made a mistake by keeping Henderson on the bench.
How did he relegate DDG to Europa league? Who played more league minutes? DDG went to Spain to celebrate the birth of his newborn, that was when Henderson got his chance, remember?

The argument was that whoever Ole chose for the final of Europa would be #1 next season and the one benched will leave the club in the summer.

It seems Ole has made his choice and it’s not Henderson.

Bum status for Henderson is confirmed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:30pm On May 28, 2021
Expert17:
Your weak attempt to protect De Gea won't fly.

Even if that match was played at Old Trafford, the PK result will stay same as far as it's DDG.

Bruno decision affected DDG only, the same GK that conceded his last 40 Pk for both club and country.

Statistics already proved that a goal keeper with 50% success rate in saving penalties (Henderson) will do better than a goal keeper with less than 15% success rate.
Henderson is a bum.

Villareal would have won in normal time had Henderson started. He was in goal against Sheffield United at Old Trafford and United conceded 3 goals at home to a regelated team.

Stop mentioning Henderson in the league of brilliant goalkeepers. He’s low quality. If he’s not born English, he would be selling newspapers at Baker Street. I can name 50 goalkeepers better than him in Europe.

He’s shit!

DDG at 19 years of age saving a Diego Milito’s penalty in the SuperCup in 2010. Milito was fresh from conquering Europe with Treble and De Gea humiliated him.

This is who you are comparing to Henderson?

Such disrespect!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:59pm On May 28, 2021
Leyqute:
grin

Many things went wrong and Ole made the most of the wrong decisions, even before a ball was kicked. The unnecessary press, interviews, and mingling was just too much. Is that how you prepare for a final? Apart from being a doofus he probably underestimated Villareal and thought mere goodwill was enough to win the cup.
He probably didn’t know Emery is a master of winning Europa league. Emery knew he couldn’t compete with us pound for pound so he parked the bus. I can’t blame them for deploying such satanic football.

It was up to Ole to break them down and he had no idea.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:41pm On May 28, 2021
Leyqute:
LooL. Bruno made so many wrong decisions on Wednesday night apart from that bit. He’s a better “captain” when someone else is a captain cos that is when he can think clearly.
Ole didn’t help.

Ole ought to have ring the changes at the hour mark. One of Greenwood or Rashford shouldn’t have started.
McFred should have started.

Pogba was horrible in the midfield especially in the first half. He was too far away from where he could cause Villareal’s low block any sort of problem.

A fresh Rashford leg around the 70th minute would have helped against the tired legs of Villareal. Ole didn’t make a single change until extra time and the substitution was dumb. DM for a forward. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:26pm On May 28, 2021
Leyqute:
He doesn’t play well and makes bad decisions when he captains. It’s now an established fact.
I love him to death but that’s a dumb decision.

Every team wants to go first to set the pace, the odds favor the team that goes first.

The probability is 20% higher than the team going second. Villareal had all the advantage and their fans behind the post were busy distracting United players that were taking their kicks.

Bruno’s head is not correct.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:17pm On May 28, 2021
Bruno Fernandes should be fined by the club for allowing Villareal to take the first penalty.

Bruno won the coin toss. It then follows that United should take the first penalty and Villareal would choose which side of the pitch to take the penalty.

Villareal chose their end of the pitch where their fans were which is a small advantage. Yet, Bruno stupidly allowed them to also have the advantage of going first.

Statistics already proved the first team to take penalties win the shootout 60% of the time cos the second team is always playing catch up which adds to the tension.

I heard even the referee was surprised that Bruno chose to go 2nd. What sort of stupid rookie mistake is that one?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:14pm On May 28, 2021
Expert17:
Pickford better than Henderson to you.

What Henderson achieved with Sheffield United last season, Pickford can't smell it with Everton.

29 years old Nick Pope that is useless with anything related to using his leg(kicks and saves).

Lets wait for Henderson's career status at 29.
What did he achieve?

This is like saying what Ole achieved at Molde cannot be achieved by Tuchel in the PL. grin cheesy

Is it not the same Henderson that allowed a shot from Liverpool to pass through his legs last season?

That Henderson? grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:04pm On May 28, 2021
MRTA7:
If the rumours about Oblak is remotely possible I'm willing to add my own money to the cash+DDG for Oblak fund.
He’s the only GK that can displace De Gea with my blessings.

All those Henderson talks replacing DDG is just BS. Henderson hasn’t done enough to replace DDG. If you remove the British hype, Henderson isn’t even better than Pickford.

I would have Nick Pope of Burnley before Henderson. It’s this kind of dubious theory that got Ole Solskjaer at United. One should not replace a world class GK with a rookie like Henderson who’s got nothing to his name yet.

At least when De Gea was replacing Van Der Sar, he had already won Europa and SuperCup for Atletico at the tender age of 21. Henderson’s club achievements are just runner-ups on steroids. Nothing concrete to show he’s a winner. He should be #3 at best.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:23pm On May 28, 2021
Oasis007:
Manchester United remain in talks with Jadon Sancho’s representatives about a potential move. As it stands, United represents the most realistic destination for Sancho this summer.

- Sky
Remain in talks
Monitor
Identify
Discussion
Meeting with agents

This is what United will do all summer and probably sign Andros Townsend on the last day of the window.

One would think after missing Sancho last summer, this transfer would have been completed by now without any foot dragging.

This club is a joke.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:09am On May 28, 2021
hoopLA:
So we are still stuck with the Scandinavian Kashimawo Laloko?
He’s a rapacious mercenary, a devourer, a thief.

There’s a difference between club legends who thought they could manage their clubs AND a devourer who knows he’s shit at the job but wants to keep holding on to the job.

Gattuso and Duncan Ferguson are club legends.

Ole is an armed robber.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:05pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
Yes I know. Then I told you that being forced to stay on the line started since ages ago. I saw even 1905. But you went on saying it is a new law. It was later you started talking about enforcement and changing your stance

Even now, I read Eufa made it easier for the goalkeeper since 2020. Penalty are not to be retaken unless the keeper seriously infringe the taker. So forget the excuse for DDG
I said the new laws make saving penalties more difficult for goalkeepers.

You said it wasn’t a new law cos the law had existed for 120 years and nothing De Gea is facing now is any more difficult than what goalies faced in the past.

I proved the laws had been updated in 2019 to include a goalkeeper putting at least one foot on the line, not touching the post or cross bar, etc plus the referee now has a video assistant to help him get a second look if a goalie infringes on the new laws.

That was when it got spooky for you and you have been running helter-skelter since. Your best example was getting a video where a goalie came off his line multiple times without getting any caution - which actually proves my original statement.


If you have any shame, you’d drop this topic.

You have been clinically exposed to be a fraud. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:59pm On May 27, 2021
hoopLA:
The fans who see this damning stats as "progress" need cataract care urgently.
They're blind,physically,mentally and spiritually.
This fan base must learn lessons in blood to be completely delivered.

Do you remember Mourinho was nearly crucified by this fanbase for pointing out United’s club record in Europe in recent times? grin cheesy

Since then, United have 1 CL group stage exit, the biggest ever CL knockout defeat and bottling the 2 easiest runs in Europa League.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:52pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
You are a big liar. This was your original statement
You have comprehension issues. That wasn’t the point.

The bolded sentence below is the point.
Illimitable:
Henderson is a bum. United would have lost at normal time if he had been in goal.

Saving penalties isn’t easy anymore with goalkeepers being forced to stay on the line until the ball is kicked.

The taker has to be very poor for a goalie to have a chance. The Villarreal keeper didn’t save any too apart from De Gea’s kick.

De Gea should never have been put in that position - he’s a goalkeeper, not a penalty taker. If Ole had done the needful, he would have brought on VDB, Mata, Amad at the 60th minute to try and win the game.

Ole deserved to lose. Stop putting the blame on De Gea.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:44pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
The 4th penalty due only to the goalkeeper's encroachment. You just like argument. I have shares both video and part of the article
The mental gymnastics here is laughable.

I said many goalkeepers got away with cheating in the past pre-VAR, you said it was a lie that the law has always existed for goalies to stay on the line.

You went on to bring a video that actually proved my point that some GKs came off the line during penalties and they weren’t booked off for any offence.

Don’t you have any shame?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:59pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
You are a lair. This is the source of the information I shared and I followed their lead to the video. You just come online to distort fact
You and the author of that piece are both drunk.

In the video I watched, at no point did the referee communicate with the goalkeeper for any wrongdoing.

He didn’t caution him or give him a yellow card. There was no sign language or any form of communication between the referee and the goalkeeper and yet the referee was booking the players outside the box.

Watch the video yourself instead of reading a useless write up that didn’t capture the true event. If you are blind, ask a neighbor to interpret what happened in the video you sent.

The goalie wasn’t at fault as far as the referee was concerned otherwise he would have walked to him or signal to him to stop coming off his line.

Stop lying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:51pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
You never change. At least two of the retakes were as a result of goalkeeper's off his line. And there were no cards in those instances
That’s not true.

If they were, the referee would have carded the goalkeeper. He was busy carding the players outside the box.

Can a team mate get a yellow card on behalf of a goalkeeper?

Why do you lie like this? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:45pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
Watch this video of 2004 and be enlightened. The keeper kept diving out to save and the referee ordered a replay. Sometimes, the player scored but his team mates encroached into the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJwAE5Mtrxc&t=23s
The referee wasn’t even looking at the goalie in all the penalties that were taken. He was looking at the kicker and the encroachment.

If the referee thought the keeper was cheating, why was he giving the other players yellow cards instead of the real offender?

You people just lie without any shame. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:37pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
Watch this video of 2004 and be enlightened. The keeper kept diving out to save and the referee ordered a replay. Sometimes, the player scored but his team mates encroached into the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJwAE5Mtrxc&t=23s
You don’t even know how to lie. grin

The referee had the penalty to be retaken because the other players were encroaching the box before the ball was kicked.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:28pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
The keeper is allowed to move along the goal line and even distract the shooter, but must not touch the goalpost
Were the keepers not touching the goalpost or rattling the post pre-2019 to distract the kicker?

So how is the law easier and how does it align with the ones you used in your secondary school?

So you have finally come full circle to admit the laws were changed recently plus there’s now VAR to enforce it?

You’re a fraud!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:18pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
This is saying that before two feet required to be on goalline. But now one.

This makes it even easier.
It makes it easier when keepers aren’t allowed to move side to side, touch the goalpost or crossbar or rattle the net?

Are you drunk? grin cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:13pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
This 'case study' was written by a student with little knowledge like you.

I am giving you link from FIFA, sports paper from 2014, 2016, etc. You are giving me a case study written from mamaput
You are a mega fraud. grin

What did the second to the last bullet point say? What date did IFAB say they would start enforcing these new rules?

Have some shame, boy. cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:03pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
The law has been used since 1905. Everyone knew about this law. You are not qualified to analyse football. It is FIFA rule 14. All FIFA rules are in use. Sometimes, for whatever reason, one tournament can see ref ignoring an issue

Moderator bundle this guy to ogogoro section
The law was in use and plenty of goalkeepers benefitted from cheating in 2018 World Cup?

The new laws started in 2019.

You are a fraud! grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:33pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
I am not sure you understand English. Don't twist anything. Just humbly admit that you were ignorant that the law did not start with VAR.

I told you I saw this law from time immemorial. We also used it in our school games in the 1990s. You will hear, their keeper move o, na replay.

Lastly, I told you that google says it was introduced in 1905. Any laxity in any particular tournament did not represent the law. You are looking for exceptions instead of the general law through ages.
elampiro:
It's not new. The linesman watches it. Before VAR, keepers were penalised for such. As far back as 2007, it was used. Much before, it was used. Now I see it was introduced in 1905 from google search
You people just lie without shame. Who mentioned 2007 here? grin cheesy

The law started with VAR and it was enforced with VAR. Pre-VAR, referee had no opportunity to get a second look if the keeper had cheated unless the keeper made it way too obvious.

A law isn’t a law until it’s enforced. Abortion is illegal in Nigeria but an estimated 60,000 abortions are committed every month in Lagos. What you read on paper has no relevance if people are getting away with it.

Go and rest.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:24pm On May 27, 2021
Expert17:
Yh, the same way Henderson bottled AC Milan and Real Sociedad games.(3 clean sheet in 4 games)

Useless Pau Lopez benching the error-prone blind boy at Spain national team
How many saves did Henderson make in those games?

How many did De Gea make at Roma?

Is de Gea responsible for shots conceded? Is it his fault that the idiots in front of him concede shots?

Henderson would have knocked United out at the semis. grin cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:19pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
This is from Euro 2016.
It makes no sense if it’s not enforced.

You lied earlier that enforcing the law started around 2007. grin

This was 2018. Where was Collina at the World Cup? Was he blind?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:15pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
These were referee errors. Read the 2nd paragraph of this screenahot from article of 1994
A law isn’t a law if it’s not enforced.

Forget what is written on paper. The issue is if you can get away with it.

GKs in the past got away with it. With VAR, you won’t get away with it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:13pm On May 27, 2021
elampiro:
It was a mistake from the officials just like Maradona's handball
And I am telling you now that those mistakes from officials have been cut off.

If a goalie tries to game the system now, he gets a yellow card. Another attempt and it’s a red card.

So penalties are so much difficult to save now than pre-2019.

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