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adebayo201:
Airmark... Come and slave your friend oh.

Expert17:


Sallah has already outscored the Torres self

Torres had one brilliant PL season in 07/08. The injury didn’t help though but it’s what it is.

In Liverpool, Salah, Mane, Suarez are way above him.

Expert17:
Election awards

We judge by goals and assist on the field

Who’s going to save Raumdeuter from this attack?

Does he have any friends we can call to save him?

raumdeuter:
At some time Torres was making top 5 Balon dor, Euro cup winner,
Yakubu is only famous for missing chances

Illimitable oya rest

Yeah, by the virtue of playing in Europe.

Yakubu was in Middlesborough. Surely, Torres had more fame and a bigger profile but we are talking about statistics.

Yakubu was much more better. It’s not even close.

Expert17:
Another angle

Meanwhile, Torres played 4,000 more PL minutes than Yakubu, started more games than Yakubu, got subbed on more than Yakubu and played in more quality teams than Yakubu.

Raumdeuter should just go to bed, abeg.

raumdeuter:
Torres a some time was a top player, Yakubu has always been Yakubu, Imagine getting molested by Yakubu

Yakubu was a better PL striker than Torres according to stats.

Raumdeuter is getting decapitated on this thread and I love to see it.

raumdeuter:
People usually attack the weak spot. And Pep noticed Rio instantly and instructed Messi attack Rio, Few minutes later it bore

So what was a weak spot for Torres is a difficult spot for Messi?

I hope you realize it was the same season Torres & Gerrard sunk United at Old Trafford was the same one Barca faced United in the final.

I am sure if it was Vidic interviewing Pep too, he would have said the same for humor. Messi was a false 9 on the night, he had no such instruction to attack Rio at the far post.

Pep was clearly joking.

Raumdeuter, you are running out of points.

Expert17:
Same way Fernando Torres considers Vidic the weak link

This Expert17 dude has the memory of an elephant.

Brilliant reference there. Torres bitch-slapped Vidic so many times, Vidic lost player of the year award to Giggs.

Until that game, Vidic was the clear favorite.

raumdeuter:
In the latest Rio interview with Pep. Pep told him. I told Messi attack Rio on the far post. Everone knows Rio was the weakest link

Pep: I said to Messi, Attack the far post, attack to Rio

Watch from 15:50


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeH66Ny2vKQ

Rubbish!

Had Rio not played, who would Pep have told Messi to attack? If Messi was facing prime Nesta or Baresi, who would Pep have told Messi to attack? The referee?

How does this indicate Rio was weak or strong? Your striker must attack someone on the pitch, it’s inevitable. Whether the striker is facing Titus Bramble or Sergio Ramos, he’s under the instruction to attack them and score.

You are running out of points, Raumdeuter.

raumdeuter:
Rio played 2 relegated teams and conceded 4 goals without Vidic Checkmate

Relegated teams are often difficult to beat cos their survival is on the line.

In the games Vidic played alone without Rio, he failed to keep any clean sheet.

Another check mate.

I remember watching Fellaini body bagging Vidic in the first game of the season at Goodison Park.

Expert17:
Example: Man utd VS Barcelona 2007/2008, we played the game without Vidic.

Hahahaha, nice one!

Vidic’s ghost must have stopped the attacking power of Messi, Henry, Etoo for 180 mins(Home & Away).

raumdeuter:
This is what facts do to people

it makes them go from

To this

You have tied yourself with a rope.

I said your stats is one of the comparisons to look at. I also said the level of the opponents is key. I even went further to compare a game at Anfield to the one against QPR at Old Trafford.

Focusing on your stat ONLY and ignoring the level of difficulty of the opponents makes your comparison redundant. You have completely refused to address the fact that Rio singlehandedly faced top opposition 7 times out of 12 to Vidic’s 1 out of 12.

7/12 > 1/12

58.3% > 8.3%

Checkmate, Raumdeuter.

CapitalCee:
Are you saying Rio was the reason all those plenty goals were conceded in those matches?

He’s just blaming the goals on Rio because he’s on the pitch and he should be responsible for any goals scored whether he’s got something to do about it or not.

The quality of opposition is irrelevant to Raumdeuter, the build up to the goal is also irrelevant. Rio is supposedly superhuman and if he’s conceding goals against top teams then he’s shit.

CapitalCee:
No need for season reviews. watch games with more analytic mind you will easily remember

Folks living in the UK don’t get to see all the games. They watch maybe 5 PL games live per weekend if the TV is fair to them.

A large chunk of United games(3pm on Saturday) are never shown live on TV.

raumdeuter:
In 2 games vs QPR and Reading alone, Rio conceded 4 goals, Vidic conceded 5 the entire season without Rio

But fact remains Vidic(without Rio) played only 1 game out of 12 against the top 6

Rio(without Vidic) played 7 games out of 12 against top 6.

The comparison is redundant.

raumdeuter:
Rio without Vidic

Vidic was injured from Matchday 5-16
1 vs Liverpool
3 vs Spurs
2 vs Stoke
2 vs Chelsea
1 vs Arsenal
2 vs Villa
1 vs Norwich
1 vs QPR
3 vs Reading
2 vs Citeh
Matchday 19 3 vs Newcastle
Matchday 32 2 goals vs City
Matchday 35 1 vs Arsenal

Note I did not credit Rio for the goals conceded in the 5-5 vs Brom because he came in as a sub
Note: The teams in bold where Rio conceded 4 goals without Vidic ended up relegating

Summary
Rio without Vidic conceded 24 goals in 27 games
Vidic without Rio conceded 5 goals in 19 games

Do you want me to continue twisting the dagger?

So Vidic missed games against.....

Liverpool
Spurs
Chelsea
Arsenal x 2
City x 2

There’s a reason Rio’s fellow professional footballers handed him the PFA slot & no one remembered Vidic.

rationalmind:
This illimitable guy fit dayo well.

But how do you guys remember all the details of these matches. I watched most of the games but I no longer have a vivid recollection of them.

Buy the season review DVD, all the goals would stick to your mind like the national anthem.

Expert17:
You are comparing Vidic and Ferdinard partnership to Ferdinard and Evans

Show us Vidic stat with Rio and without Rio in 2010/2011

No worry.

Let him tie himself with a rope.

raumdeuter:
We are getting there, We need to agree on baselines first

We will look at Goals conceded with Rio-without Vidic vs With Vidic-without Rio

Are you satsfied with these metrics?

100% satisfaction.

raumdeuter:
Vidic without Rio conceded
Matchday 1 vs Everton 1 goal
Matchday 2 vs Fulham 2 goals
Matchday 18 vs Swansea 1 goal
Matchday 36 vs Chelsea 1 goal

Total Vidic without Rio conceded 5 goals the entire season

Kindly verify and confirm before we move ahead sir at this points its too late to run away

Expert17 you sef join body, Make I show you wetin Ronaldo like me take pass Moratas like una two

My source transfermarkt

I don’t know what you would conclude when you realize Vidic was absent in 7 games out of 12 against the top 7.

The fact that Vidic even conceded goals against Everton, Fulham & Swansea tells me he’s nothing without Rio.

So proceed with your stats.

raumdeuter:
We are getting there, We need to agree on baselines first

We will look at Goals conceded with Rio-without Vidic vs With Vidic-without Rio

That’s the one of the stats we need to look at - not your bogus selective stat.

We will also look at the quality of opposition Rio faced alone vs the ones Vidic faced.

A game at Anfield Rio played in without Vidic is different from a game at Old Trafford Vidic played without Rio against QPR.

raumdeuter:
Are you ready for some quick Maths on this 2012/13 season?

Games Vidic played in the league 19, 14 goals conceded
Games Rio played in the league 28, 33 goals conceded

You can very these numbers from transfermarkt Before we go ahead

In the games Vidic played, how many of them featured Rio?

Look at this fraudulent guy.

raumdeuter:
Is this the euphemism for carry along?

With Rio injured a lot, Vidic in 2010/2011, Was partnering any donkey available to win the league be it Smalling Evans or anyone.

if you go watch ball for stadium Ferguson fit call you to partner Vidic and clean sheet sure

One can say the same in 12/13.

Rio made more appearances than Vidic and even made PFA team of the season. United won the title with 6 or so games to spare.

Arsenal formed a guard of honor for United.

raumdeuter:
If Terry wasnt sleeping, he gets there before Nonda

[img]https:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

That was a back pass to the goalkeeper - why didn’t he catch it?

If De Gea or any other goalie fumbled that, the defender wouldn’t be blamed. If the goalie’s hand touched the ball then it ought to have been saved.

Ambrosio’s hand was too weak and I cannot remember anyone blaming Terry for that goal. Ambrosio got all the blame as he wasn’t even Chelsea’s first choice GK.

raumdeuter:
[img]https:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

See epilepsy in defence. Terry should be ashamed of himself

For a ball that didn’t cross the line but the referee gave.

That’s poor officiating. Nothing to do with Terry.

Just making things up to suit your agenda.

raumdeuter:
Vidic has a significant edge over Rio. The type of edge Ronaldo has over Morata

They complement each other.

Vidic is the attack bulldog, Rio is the luxury Rolls Royce that just cleans up the mess.

This is like saying Terry has a significant edge over Carvalho - it would be an abomination.

There’s always the aggressive type and the composed type in central defending.

This Raumdeuter guy has no shame.

Blaming Terry for Nonda’s goal, the goalkeeper should have saved that. He got a hand to it. A strong arm would have pushed that ball out of play.

raumdeuter:
This is Terry getting sodomized by Shabani Nonda
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

This is vs Morientes in the 2004 CL semi running around aimlessly like a familiar spirit
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/M9RTfI.gif[/img]

This is vs Luis Garcia in the 2005 CL semi finals which Chelsea lost. See Terry in Jersey 26 jumping like an epileptic patient
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

This is vs Atletico in the 2014 CL semi final which Chelsea lost see Terry just clueless all over the place
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/meFEjN.gif[/img]
All in crucial CL semi finals which Chelsea lost all

This is a CL crucial match where Terry was marking his own man

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_5mLG5XIAASkAX.jpg

The only CL that Chelsea won, Terry was sent off in the semi finals and missed the final

The 2005 CL semis, the ball didn’t cross the line.

Poor officiating cost Chelsea again.

raumdeuter:
Give me 3 random seasons that Chelsea failed to win the CL when Terry was a starter and I will provide you evidence

10/11.

United mauled Chelsea home and away - I think Giggs provided all the assists in both legs.

Terry was not at fault for any of the 3 goals conceded.

Prove Terry was at fault in Stamford Bridge or at Old Trafford.

Tick tock, Raumdeuter.

raumdeuter:
Very convenient to pick the season they played 10men

Whose fault was that?

raumdeuter:
You already jumped from Morgan to Carvalho to Dellas, when will you include Semi Ajayi?

Dellas did it for his national team.

Any other excuse?

raumdeuter:
08/09 na 3 seasons right?

So it’s gone from any season to 3 seasons?

Moving the goalposts as we go along, yeah?