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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:19pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
So how will Rio look at Oshea without seeing Messi
Why was Messi in front of O’Shea in that frame and by the time the goal was scored, O’Shea was nowhere near Messi?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:13pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
This frame. Can you see that Rio was looking at Messi
Or Rio was looking at O’Shea to keep the defensive line in a straight line in case the offside trap becomes an option.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 9:11pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
Maybe because apple hasn't been able to escape from the shackles of retrogression.
grin
Hahahaha or perhaps Samsung and the other crappy Android phones have no access to TruDepth cameras.

They have no access to the cutting edge dot projector that throws over 30,000 dots onto the user's face, which are then captured by an infrared camera.

They have no answer to ensure the system operates properly in the dark with a flood illuminator that adds more infrared light when needed.

This is cutting edge technology that is well above what Samsung and co can even muster. Security is why Apple phones are best sellers, not fanciful 120 fps or exploding batteries.

It’s not too late for you to jump ship. cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:58pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Simply moving back 2 steps by Rio will be enough but he slept off
Look at the trajectory of the ball and where Rio was.

Rio wasn’t getting to the ball no matter what he did. It was a well placed, laser-guided cross.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:52pm On Mar 25, 2021
CapitalCee:
Not true. Hummels was better in the world cup run, infact he scored the winner in the quater finals against France and was glorious and visible through out the tournament. The only match Boateng did visibly well (according to you, which is even debatable), was in the final.

For the UCL win in 2013 Dante was the better partner in my books
Boateng was monstrous in the final - but because of the occasion, he got all the accolades. The way Boateng marshaled Messi for 120 mins should be a subject in football schools across the world.

However, Hummels outperformed him in the group stage and nearly all the KO games but the final. Messi later got his revenge in the CL few years later when he massacred Boateng with leg work. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:43pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
And what should Rio have done?

Stayed at home?
Rio was in position but the ball was played over his head. O’Shea should be tucking in and covering that side of the area.

Had Xavi played a ground pass to find Messi, Rio would have cut the pass off. The aerial was over Rio so the man behind him(O’Shea) should be covering that zone.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:41pm On Mar 25, 2021
CapitalCee:
Man United team 2007-2011 is better than that Madrid team that won fluke UCLs. Remember they won just 1 league title in those runs and i think finished 3rd at one point. They were just lucky like that 2012 chelsea. Bayern would have easily knocked them out in 2 occasions if not for atrocious officiating.

That VDS/Vidic/Rio/Ronaldo/Rooney inspired team was better than that madrid team. They won 3 consecutive EPL titles and was in 3 UCLs finals getting to the semis in the other 2 seasons.

That Arrigo Sachi Milan team was heavenly, they are way way better than the madrid team
The team was better in from 2007-8 but was badly coached beaten 2009-2011.

People forget it was the input of Carlos Quieroz that got United over the line in 2008 Semis when he completely told Fergie to park the bus.

Carlos left after that victory and SAF went back to his old ways of attempting to go toe to toe with a team that was significantly better than his team in Europe.

Mourinho would have done a much better job of winning at least one of the finals in 2009 & 2011 by being smart. SAF’s tactics in both finals were laughable.

Giggs, Anderson, Carrick in 2009 final.
Giggs, Carrick, Park in 2011 final.

Was SAF high on crack? The same Barca midfield trio that battered every team at the World Cup the previous year was the same one SAF lined up Park & Giggs against in a final?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:32pm On Mar 25, 2021
CapitalCee:
As in eeh. Very gluke wins. Nobody ever mentions that team among the best. They are not even exciting
It’s weird anyone has anything bad to say about that Barcelona side.

Bombblacks is probably just hating.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:28pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Oshea should do this, VDS should do that, Vdic should do this and that
Abeg wetin come be Rios job

Oshea doubking up on a 5ft7 player when a giant as beside him
Football is team work.

Defending as a unit is key.

Vidic was stupidly out of position, Evra shouldn’t have given the ball away and O’Shea should have tucked in.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:20pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
O'Shea was watching Henry, while Messi was clearly Rio's man. All Rio had to do was pay attention to his man. Rio standing close to Messi probably beats Messi to the ball without even jumping but he snoozed at a crucial time
O’Shea was watching Henry that was 20 yards away from the action and ignored the imminent danger?

Where did you learn your football defending from?

O’Shea should be tucking in as soon as he saw Xavi looking up to make that cross.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:19pm On Mar 25, 2021
[quote author=raumdeuter post=100210990][/quote]You are talking general label, I am talking about how Pep used them.

They were completely free of any defensive duties. Busquets dovetailed and Xaviesta floated behind the 3 forwards.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 8:15pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
3D facial technology remains a farce.
If it’s a farce, why are they still on Apple phones till now.

It’s been almost 4 years since it was put on iPhones and it’s still going strong. Every tech geek has said iPhones are the most secure phones on the planet.

Isn’t it about time you admit you are clueless about how tech works? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:04pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Barcelona played 4-3-3 with 1 DM and 2 CMs
1 DM & 2 CAMs
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 8:03pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
Google pixel 3 had a notch? What did google pixel 4 and pixel 5 (products that were massive improvements from the pixel 3) have?

You look funny when you're joking
Are you asking me?

Phone companies without 3D facial technology copied the notch cos they thought it was just there for aesthetics.

They realized a year later that if they weren’t providing 3D facial technology, there was no reason to put a notch there - so they stuck to the old & archaic Touch ID that Motorola first put on Atrix in 2011.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 7:57pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
a notch in a 1st Gen product.


So you are even aware that they improved on that "notchy" error subsequently.


It's good, the way you shoot yourself.
What kind of idiocy has seized your brain?

iPhone X released in 2017
Galaxy Fold released in 2019

How’s 2019 Samsung phone a 1st Generation product?

There’s no evidence you graduated from a functional school.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 4:55pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
There's no reason for a notch.

Cos the notch is housing a technology that is gimmicky and not as effective as "touch ID".


We'll celebrate when apple stops retrogressing.
Yet, Samsung copied the notch on their Galaxy fold.

Google Pixel 3 XL also had a notch after Apple first put it on iPhone X.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:49pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
There was nothing Rio did to distract Henry, the goal was only averted because VDS saved it. Rio was treated like a bittch on the field, every defender has been treated like one at some point in his career, The only shameful thing is running from engagement like Rio
Vidic gets treated like a bītch in big games. Torres, Etóo, Gerrard, etc. He has as many red cards for being treated like a bïtch from needless tackles than any other top PL defender I know.

raumdeuter:
Rio jumping would have gotten to the ball like you said in bold, but he didnt because he was napping in the box
*Wouldn’t have

The context of my sentence should have told you that I meant wouldn’t have.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 4:42pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
There's no reason for a notch.

Cos the notch is housing a technology that is gimmicky and not as effective as "touch ID".
It’s like you are retardēd.

Apple had Touch ID before dumping it for Face ID. Touch ID is an archaic technology. Many phones were breached by suspecting spouses by putting the finger tip of their sleeping partners on the touch pad.

Apple dumped it for the more secure Face ID. If you are still shouting about Touch ID that was on iPhones as far back as September 2013 then you need to go back to school.

DownChelsea:
We'll celebrate when apple stops retrogressing.
It’s more like your brain is retrogressive.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:34pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
No shame in going to engage and getting dribbled, Any defender who doesnt get dribbled is most likely hiding from engagement

like Henry did to Rio here no one will blame Rio at least he did what he was exected which is to engage

https://j.gifs.com/GvPrJ3.gif
No shame in being treated like a bïtch on the pitch? grin

What won’t you say to defend Vidic? There was no need to commit like that and fail to make any challenge. Vidic just gave up like a bïtch that he is in big games.

Henry had Rio but Rio still swung his foot to distract Henry and that was why Henry failed to score. Vidic simply surrendered and made no recovery action to get the ball from Etoo. grin

raumdeuter:
The greater shame is when a defender is sleeping inside the box in a final and cannot even jump to clear a ball vs a 5ft 7 player

Sleeping in the box just like Thiago Silva did. SHameful
Rio jumping wouldn’t have gotten to the ball. It was a well delivered cross that took him out of the game. The ball was bent around his head, it wasn’t a flat cross.

So because Vidic engaged the ball means he had no fault for the goal? Are you a clown?
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 4:28pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
This is what "slow" means.


"A NOTCH IN 2021" ��
The notch is because of 3D technology.

Samsung could never. Almost 4 years after Apple launched Face ID, Samsung are still in the mud on how to get a 3D TrueDepth camera. It’s not about making noise.


DownChelsea:
And yes it's no news that Samsung makes the best screens in the market. If you're too pained, end your life!
They also have a reputation for the mobile phones that explodes on people’s faces. Their crappy batteries exploding and injuring people all over the world. That’s their cutting edge technology.

Their legacy is as horrible as your thinking faculty.

DownChelsea:
God forbid stupid phones like apple who still use 60fps in 2021, with hideous looking notches that cuts the screen in half.

Don't worry apple engineers are stick studying very hard so that they'll be able to make hole punch phones, or even foldable phones with high refresh rate (maybe in the year 2040)
No one gives a shit about foldable phones. Nokia already did that many moons ago. 3D True Depth cannot work with punch hole cameras. The technology is far too advanced than the pin hole camera on Samsung phones.


The notch isn’t aesthetics. There’s a reason it’s there.


DownChelsea:
I don't know which one is more hopeless, Apple's lack of innovation or your stewpidity.
What is more hopeless is your morgue temperature IQ. If you were to die a sudden death today, the average national IQ in Nigeria will increase by 20 points.

It’s imperative that people like you should be banned from procreating so you don’t pass your idiotic genes to your children.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:08pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Ferdinand already admitted that he was culpable, Messi already pointed that Ferdinand gawked himself

Quote anyone who blamed Vidic for the goal
What about the first goal when Eto’o ruined Vidic?

Was that Rio’s fault too? Talking as if Messi’s goal was the only goal that decided the game.

Vidic was more culpable for the loss than Rio. Eto’o chopped him into bits.

Your selective amnesia won’t remember that. grin
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 4:00pm On Mar 25, 2021
DownChelsea:
if you're too broke to buy a good phone. It's your own L. Of course Samsung will never catch up in being uninteresting and boring
You are the broke woman from the bush that thought a N60k iPhone is the shiznit.

DownChelsea:
You've already failed the primary task of being reasonable.


Your L is not Soo heavy. You can carry it, trust me.
Says the slowpoke that opined Samsung’s screen quality is why they don’t have 3D facial technology feature on their crap devices.

Why don’t you just admit you are a bit slow when it comes to cutting edge technology?
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 3:58pm On Mar 25, 2021
Teeboy2300:
Chill iris scanner>>>>>face id
Iris scanner is a shit technology.

It’s slower than Face ID
You have to focus your iris to be scanned
Wearing contact lens or sunglasses affect the process.

FaceID has no such issues.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:56pm On Mar 25, 2021
Bombblacks:
All these are excuses. Their away record was terrible in the champions league and all their champions league trophy won during that period were controversial. The MSN Barca of 2014 that won the Treble was even better than those boring Barca sides yet no one is calling them the greatest side of all time. It's just nostalgic covering them.
Terrible away record & they almost won 3 back to back in the era when defending a champions league trophy was almost impossible.

It’s almost as if having poor away record affects nothing in CL. Just outscore your opponents in aggregate and you are good to go.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:36pm On Mar 24, 2021
raumdeuter:
Smart defenders get close to their markers
Rio was caught napping in the penalty box because Pep already identified him as a weak point, a defender who day dreams in the box, who is never alert rather points to cover his weaknesses

https://j.gifs.com/mOLP2A.gif

What was Rio doing to prevent a 5ft 7 from scoring an uncontested header against him
Puyol & Etoo(on the channel) were the only sensible outlet to receive the ball from Xavi.

How Xavi managed to weave that cross into the box with a curl caught everyone else napping apart from Messi. It’s not all goals conceded that you can blame a defender on.

Sometimes, you just have to clap your hands. Had Rio contested the ball with Messi and lost, you would be right to blame him. The idea that smart defenders get close to attackers is crap. It wasn’t a set-piece.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:31pm On Mar 24, 2021
Bombblacks:
Best team that was useless away from home. All their champions league trophy won was controversial. They were a good side not great or best.
They were games they didn’t really need.

But for Mourinho’s satanic football in 2010 CL semis, Barca would have won 3 CL titles in a row(2009, 2010, 2011).

One could also argue their bus trip to Milan from Barcelona because of the Icelandic ash polluting the sky also caused an enormous amount of fatigue to their players and they lost 3-1.

By the time the 2nd leg was due to be played, The ashes have cleared and Inter flew by air to Barcelona - which gave them a massive advantage to defend the 3-1 lead in the first leg.

Mourinho got lucky with that one.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:55pm On Mar 24, 2021
raumdeuter:
The Messi goal was because Rio was targeted by a much smaller man aerially

Coman goal had Thiago Silva conducting a meeting inside the box. Thiago lost concentration and cost his team not kimpembe
Another ridiculous take.

Xavi’s cross took Rio completely out of commission. Xavi’s brilliance should be applauded instead of blaming Rio.

Evra gave the ball away as United were trying to break forward. Xavi weaved a delicious cross that got Messi a free header. I don’t know how you can blame Rio for that passage of play seeing that the ball flew over his head into Messi’s path?

What should Rio have done? Catch the ball with his hands?!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:51pm On Mar 24, 2021
Bombblacks:
There is nothing best about that barca side. Barcelona between '08-'12 lost against Shaktar, Wisla Krakow, Rubin Kazan, Inter, Arsenal and Chelsea and drew against Basel, Lyon, Chelsea (x3), Bayern, Inter, Rubin Kazan (x2), Stuttgart, Arsenal, Copenhagen, Madrid and Milan (x2) . Away from home they where also useless . 6 losses and 15 draws over a four year period.
One could easily argue they were the best team ever between 2008 and 2012.

Barcelona were fearless, they didn’t change their tactics for over 4 years against some of the toughest teams in Europe. Everyone knew how Barcelona would line up and you are still more likely to lose to them.

Their opponents changed tactics to stop them, Barca did not change anything. The trifecta of Xavi, Iniesta & Busquets damaged many teams. They took the same format to the World Cup in South Africa and Euro 2012, every team they faced in the KO stage got destroyed.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 2:29pm On Mar 24, 2021
DownChelsea:
An uneducated isheep is comparing face ID and touch ID.

Note. The sheep has only one face and ten fingers. ���.

Even the Jokers have realised that they shot themselves on the foot and are considering ditching the gimmicky tech.
The question every tech advocate keeps asking each year....

Instead of you to hustle more so that you can be able to afford an iPhone that isn’t sold for N60k(Face ID technology), you are out here disgracing your blood line that Samsung makes more secure phones than Apple.

Cheapskates!

PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 2:25pm On Mar 24, 2021
DownChelsea:
how expensive are iPhones.

Never seen a billion dollar iPhone. So where did your notion that the boring crap is more expensive than every other worthy gadget come from?

Of course every idiot can afford an iPhone. You're too poor so I understand why an iPhone is like a rolls Royce to you.
This bush woman keeps exposing her ignorance on a subject she knows nothing about.

DownChelsea:
Don't people buy iPhones with 60k. And don't people buy Samsung phones with 900k?
60k iPhones were made 6 years ago. If that’s your kind of thing, jog on.

DownChelsea:
Poor man mentality. Go and hustle. Come back when your cheap crap can unlock your phone without your mask on.
But your face unlock can open with a mask, right? Who’s going to tell you the technology on your iPhone is archaic, I gave you a simple task and you have failed at it.

Find any article that says Samsung phones are more secure than iPhones. It’s a simple task instead of ranting like a baboon on heat.
PhonesRe: Punch Hole Vs Notch - Which Do You Prefer? by Illimitable: 12:14pm On Mar 24, 2021
DownChelsea:
you can't compare apple with Samsung cos Samsung is way better.
What poor folks always say to convince themselves that Samsung is better than Apple? Not in a million years. Apple iPhone is the most secure handheld device on the planet. Maybe you should ask the FBI why they couldn’t break into one in 2016 and had to send the device to Israel. They paid $1m to an Israeli company to unlock an iPhone.

DownChelsea:
Are you aware that Samsung priortises on screen quality and real estate? That's why they offer 2D facial unlock which is a 2nd option (with a caveat from Samsung themselves) With the primary option being their "on screen" touch ID.
This has nothing to do with security. The quality of the screen has nothing to do with the archaic 2D facial unlock on Samsung phones. Basically, all I need to unlock your phone is your printed photo and your fingerprint(if you fall asleep).

Apple’s Face ID is more advanced that you cannot unlock the phone if the owner is asleep. Face ID is even attention-aware. It recognizes if your eyes are open and your attention is directed towards the device.

DownChelsea:
Or, are you also claiming that the finger print scanning (which is even better than face ID) can also be fooled?
Apple's foolery is very lucid.
Apple used finger print scanning from iPhone 5s till iPhone 8 before dumping the archaic technology for Face ID. Ask anywhere, the Face ID is more secure than the fingerprint + 2D face unlock.

DownChelsea:
Apple with their stale and ugly face ID technology that makes their phones look like toys from 7 years ago.
Just say you cannot afford one.
There’s no single mobile phone product that is more secure than the iPhone. You can scour google from now till 2025, you won’t find any.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:05pm On Mar 23, 2021
Expert17:
Same Torres that was missing empty net at Chelsea....smh

cheesy cheesy

Dayo you can do better
Baba don run.

Nice job, Expert17.

You are a god of men! grin

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