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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:02pm On Apr 16, 2021
GloryIsaac:
Did Pogba actually say this? cheesy
The video is on Twitter - he said so.

And it confirms my thoughts that Ole pampers these guys. There’s no consequence for failure, Ole actually rewards failure. Lindelof can score 5 own goals in a game and still start the next game.

Pogba has forgotten that he would have no trophy at United without Mourinho. How many competitions have United failed to win now post-Mourinho? Almost 11. Pogba is a joke.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:22pm On Apr 15, 2021
Since De Gea got demoted, he’s been keeping clean sheets while the Great English hope has been laying eggs in every game since then.

I am not deducing anything, just observing. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:08pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
McTominay held it in some of the games under Mourinho.
By parking the bus with 5 defenders. cheesy

We are talking of a quality DM that would do an excellent job when United are attacking.

The triangle in the centre of midfield should be inverted(one DM, 2 CMs). The current set up is 2 DMs, 1 CAM).

It’s limiting.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:01pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
I meant Matic playing as DM while Pogba as CM, but struggled.
Matic is finished as a DM. He’s got no recovery pace to catch up when the opponents break.

We can as well bring Schmeichel back as a goalkeeper.


Expert17:
Fred is also a CM.

Infact, he never played as a DM for Country or previous clubs.

Mctom plays as a DM or CB for Scotland.

We have two experienced DMs he could learn from - Matic and Carrick.
The two of them are not good enough as CMs or DMs. They should be substitutes at their very best if the club really wants to go to the next level.

Matic and Carrick have nothing in their brains to teach or rehabilitate Fred or Scott. If they can do it, they would have done it.

How many erratic passes does Fred make in a single game? What have Carrick/Matic done to improve Fred’s passes?

A good DM must be positionally aware, must be excellent in interceptions, blocks, tackles and a good recovery pace even when he’s caught upfield. A good DM must also have composure in possession and the ability to pass or dribble when pressed.

Fred or McTominay lack each of these qualities.


BARAJ92:
Really, this is rubbish, about from his contribution to the last goal which other goal was he involve in against Tottenham, we won Man City without same Pogba.
Bruno is far better than him but talent wise Pogba is superior. Without Bruno, I don't know where this team will be
Bruno couldn’t have done what Pogba did to Hojberg for the 3rd goal and Bruno couldn’t have found Cavani like Pogba did for the disallowed goal.

I don’t know why you guys can’t get it that a squad needs more than Bruno OR Pogba. A squad needs Bruno + Pogba + 2 other quality midfielders.

Bruno struggled in plenty of games without Pogba. All those 0-0 games that widened the gap between United and City are because Bruno cannot do it alone sometimes. Only United fans want one of the two when you should be clamoring for both and maybe 3 more.

City have KDB, Foden, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva in their midfield. If one or two of them get injured or suspended, there isn’t any loss of quality. At United, if Bruno should get injured, everything collapses.

That’s why City are miles ahead and United are on their longest run without a trophy in the PL era.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:32pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
But we have played Matic and Pogba, we ended up packing the bus with those two. When we had ventured we got stung
Pogba isn’t a DM, he’s wasted there.

Prime Matic was very good but what we have now is a shadow of his former self.

Kante & Ndidi are the best DMs in the league. If Ole can’t get Kante, he should be snatching Ndidi from Leicester.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:17pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
McTominay can do what Ndidi and co do. But he has an ambitious for goal scoring which makes him push forward.
He simply cannot.

He lacks the positional discipline to do so. Ndidi, Kante, etc don’t get attracted to the action and then leave their position. It takes plenty of discipline to hold your position and know when to join the attack.

McTominay is a CM, he cannot operate alone in the DM position. He’s poor at tackling, interceptions & clearances in comparison to Kante or Ndidi. If he can be used as a sole DM, Ole would have used him there at any point in the last 3 years.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:08pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
Pogba creates a chance every 87 mins
Fred every 96 mins.

Small difference

Now Pogba is a far cry from Bruno, Rashford and Shaw. Not talking about KDB. So how is he the best in the league?
Shaw - 70 corners taken
KDB - 83 corners taken
Bruno - 56 corners taken

Pogba - 0 corners taken.

Meanwhile, you expect Pogba to have the same number of created chances as these players. Just admit you don’t like Pogba instead of the hate speech you throw at him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:00pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
I used to be able to see distance covered with:

Km covered with speed
Km covered with light running
Km covered jogging
Km covered walking


If we can have this, for sure you guys will value why Fred is making it to starting line up
The pairing of Fred and McTominay is essential in the defensive midfield for United because we don’t have players better than them in the squad. That does not mean we should kid ourselves that they are good enough.

McFred essentially does the job of one DM. I will rather have a quality DM like Casemiro, Kante or Ndidi as a sole DM to dovetail Pogba and Bruno. Ole knows his defence is shit and he tries to protect them with 2 DMs even against bottom sides.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:37pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
Can you show the CC from open play in the EPL this season?
I can find it.

However, I know as at January 20, Shaw had created 12 chances from corners and free kicks in the PL. He created only 3 from set plays throughout last season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:19pm On Apr 15, 2021
weedtaker:
neck and neck for where? The stats might deceive you but they were never neck and neck, this is Henry and RVN all over again.

mbappe was destroying elite teams with bakayoka and Bernardo as his creative force, Bakayoko lol grin
That was a very strong Monaco side. You forgot they also had Lemar and Falcao in their attack. The same Monaco side that destroyed Pep’s Man City?

weedtaker:
You would’ve made a point if mbappe didn’t play in an average Monaco side and showed his quality, Halaand is getting outscored by Andre Silva in a league that made Kagawa and Mhikitaryan look like Bruno Fernandes on steroids.
That Monaco side wasn’t average. It was a team filled with talents. Big clubs came for nearly all their players after that season.

Bakayoko - Chelsea
Mbappe - PSG
Lemar - Atletico
Bernardo - Man City
Mendy - Man City
Fabinho - Liverpool

That’s more than half of their first team going to massive European clubs. How’s that an average side? Average sides don’t win a league competition of 38 games.


weedtaker:
Halaand is the white Lukaku which isn’t a bad thing as Lukaku is top class, he’s just not on mbappe’s level.
Haaland is as good as Mbappe. One could even argue he’s better. Look at the number of goals he’s scored for Dortmund in a short while he got there? That’s a Dortmund side that are languishing in 5th position in a very poor Bundesliga season this year.

weedtaker:
Mbappe was dominating the World Cup at 18 ffs! Respect wink
Same as the pensioner Giroud that Arsenal considered not good enough and they kicked out.

France had a massive squad in 2018. Even Greenwood would perform at a high level for that team. The defence was solid, the midfield was monstrous. Any decent striker would perform just about the same as Mbappe. Haaland could have actually scored more in that French team than Mbappe did.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:05pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
Pogba creates a chance every 87 mins
Fred every 96 mins.

Small difference

Now Pogba is a far cry from Bruno, Rashford and Shaw. Not talking about KDB. So how is he the best in the league?
How’s that a small difference?

Bruno, KDB, Rashford and Shaw are all set piece takers, their created chances stats would be skewed. Any of them takes a corner kick and Maguire’s slabhead puts the ball into row Z, that’s a chance created.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:06pm On Apr 15, 2021
MRTA7:
Major boost. Dan James has been passed fit for tonight and expected to play.
That’s great news.

James is the best defensive winger on the planet. He does more defending than attacking. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:40pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
Yet he has created only 18 chances in the league. Fred has created more, and I am sure when reduced to CC/per minutes played, Pogba will still look poor in the team.
Pogba - 18 chances, 1520 mins
Fred - 21 chances, 2018 mins.

Fred played 500 mins more than Pogba and he has only 3 more chances created? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:01pm On Apr 15, 2021
weedtaker:
Mbappe and Halaand comparison is forced.

Mbappe is clear.

Mbappe vs Rashford makes a better comparison, even though mbappe is clearly better.


I don’t know why people are falling over his signature.. we sold lukaku and are going after the white version.
Mbappe isn’t clear of Haaland. It’s neck and neck.

Mbappe has better team mates, he’s got Neymar as a buddy and Neymar is top 5 at the very least.

Who has Haaland got? Sancho? Reus? The two of them put together are not as good as Neymar.

Football is a team sport. An average player in a world class team would appear better than a top quality player in a team full of shït.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:47pm On Apr 15, 2021
elampiro:
Is Pogba still world class? Sometimes he plays like Gibson
Pogba is the best midfielder in England. It’s unfortunate he plays for a club where he’s expected to defend, attack, score goals, make tackles, create goals, etc.

One world class player surrounded by mostly shit.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:59pm On Apr 14, 2021
elampiro:
Ole is trying with his comebacks. But actually, there are comebacks, there are comebacks, and there are comebacks.

I never get tired if watching UCL final 1999 highlights. Also the semi final match at San Siro. Come back against Everton in the run in to 2007 league title. A few against Spurs. Last weekend was fine as well.
The best comeback was preventing City from winning the PL at the Etihad on their supposed coronation day. Nothing will beat that game for years to come.

Those who have seen Man City’s Amazon documentary of their fans crying at half time hoping they win the game and the title that day would understand how massive that game was.

Down by 2 goals against Pep only for United to turn the screw in 45 mins with 3 goals is the stuff legends are made of. Pogba cemented his world class status that evening.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:54pm On Apr 14, 2021
Chelsea and City in the semis while some moröns on this thread are saying Ole has made significant progress.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:03pm On Apr 13, 2021
From not believing there’s a term known as 2nd leg comebacks to claiming the moral high ground?

This thread has the highest population density of halfwits on the planet.

It’s hilarious. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:58pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Ok cheesy
Simple question be like further maths.
You have had 7 whole days to list Ole’s comeback games that are identical to Jose’s - you have not been able to produce one.

Send your address so I can have some cod liver oil delivered to you to help with your IQ. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:55pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Fvck!!!!
grin grin grin

Define a comeback?

You common sense no fit help you for this one?
Stop the mental gymnastics.

Your only comparison to Jose’s list of comebacks is a tie involving 2 legs.

It’s either you are a dork for bringing up the PSG game or you are a dolt for thinking it’s a comeback game.

No matter which struggle you pick, you have been cornered. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:51pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Is second leg comeback a comeback?

Stop being stvpid na, it is getting out of hand! angry
It’s not a comeback.

Just like winning community shield, carling cup and FA cup isn’t a TREBLE.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:47pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
And he couldn't do a simple assignment.

" People that don't know but think they know " cheesy
Alabi
Alabintu
Alabissouma

KingAlabi:
The guy remix comeback to classic comeback and 2nd legged comeback.

I just weak, I dey try clear head, I say make I engage am small, the guy has proved his worth in de-pressurizing me.
Will I be surprised if you have never heard of 2nd leg comeback before? I won’t be.

You wrote WAEC 16 times, nothing surprises me about you when deductive reasoning is the subject.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:41pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Illimitable running to do his assignment like my little nephew grin grin grin

Things I love to see.
Instead of these mental gymnastics you have cornered yourself into, you can actually use the Spurs example on Sunday as a crutch in your frail argument.

Stop disgracing your school. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:28pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Anytime you result to insults, the matter enter you, stopped being so predictable. cheesy

0 cents for educating you. angry
Saying you don’t have common sense isn’t an insult - it’s a fact. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:27pm On Apr 13, 2021
BARAJ92:
Everything na cruise, he knows the truth.
I doubt he knows.

Alabi wrote WAEC 16 times until a neighbor impersonated him to pass the exams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:24pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Our literate that always gets ignored and spanked here on a constant, tell me is Liverpool a comeback? Or omotola comeback? cheesy grin
Ignored and spanked? By whom?

The average IQ of the regular posters on this thread is lower than 20.

Zero deductive reasoning. I called you out and listed Mourinho’s comebacks in game that ended in 90 minutes and the only comparison you could find is a game of 2 legs?

Don’t you have a kid brother that can tell you that your head is not correct? At least find a comparable game instead of your false equivalency.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:19pm On Apr 13, 2021
BARAJ92:
A 2-1 loss away from home, then winning the home leg 1-0 is that a comeback. 1
Alabi is an illiterate.

They are the same dorks that claimed City won the treble in 2019 when we all know the treble = PL + UCL + FA cup.

People like Alabi always change the definition of terms to fit their sordid narratives.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:15pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
I take that as a compliment

Only God knows your IQ points cheesy
Yet, you are getting cannibalized with your Neptune temperature IQ. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:13pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
This one na werey oh grin grin

Abeg win dey different from win by shot outside the box ? cheesy

I said comeback, now na 2nd leg comeback and classic comeback.

Soon e go be obutamenta comeback.

Na me fvck up, it is hard impossible to correct an ignoramus grin
Illiteracy is a disease.

So the analogy you could come up with is a shot outside the box compared to the one scored within?

If you have any common sense, none of the Mourinho examples I listed had a 2nd leg fixture. Everything was decided within 90 minutes.

When you couldn’t find a similar result for Ole against a big team, you ran to the internet to bring out a tie(2 legs) as a comparison.

You need to start taking proteins and cod liver oil to help your deductive reasoning.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:03pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Ok
Just because something is on the internet makes it right? What’s to say it wasn’t written by someone with the same IQ points as you? cheesy

KingAlabi:
It is just better to keep quiet when you don't understand something.

From giggs was hired and sacked, to comebacks.

Has nobody ever told you that the 1st leg of a 2 legged match is half time, that's why it is aggregated?

Na wa!!!!
Then you qualify it appropriately by calling it a
2nd leg comeback
and that makes it different from a classic comeback.

Why is English language such an arduous task for you? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:56pm On Apr 13, 2021
Lewandowski’s injury cost Bayern Munich.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:29pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
Is it a comeback? Or not? cheesy

Some times shutting up is the best route to take cheesy
It’s not a comeback.....

If you are listing a whole 90 minutes of football as a comeback game then we need to address the schools you passed through.

What happened on Sunday was a comeback. PSG game isn’t a comeback. United scored the first 2 goals in that particular game. How is it a come back?

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