₦airaland Forum

aribisala0:
Gay is nothing to do with Western world though.
It is everywhere and always has been . Whether you disapprove is another matter but do not pretend it is not in Africa.
The reality is that it always was a criminal offence in many European countries and the reason we are having this conversation is because there is still massive discrimination against them in the Western world so it is not a Western world problem. If they all accepted it there would be no problem like this

It is a Western world problem because they have been promoting it and shoving it down people's throats for decades.

ifeanyiclement:
Hundred percent support for Idrissa who know his faith, unlike others who are afraid to profess their beliefs. Homosexuality is evil both in Islam and Christianity and the sooner we condemn it the better, they are trying to ram their evil belief down his throat

A confused set of people. When are they going to stand with Islam and Christianity and Buddhism by wearing shirts that support these. They want by force support and yet call it FREE speech. What sort of free is forced on everyone?

AFvckingAlpha:
Idrissa has been put in a dicey situation.

He’s got to show support for the LGBTQ, he needs to drop that African shitty mentality, this is 2022, we need to respect people’s sexual orientation.

He’s gonna bear the full the brunt, he’s got to educate homophobics but he is stalling and he’s only going to suffer cos he’s not playing.

I know people gonna come for me but I ain’t scared bring it on plus I’m fvcking straight infact I love pussy, I ain’t even getting enough pussy lately, we just need to respect people’s decisions, science validates homosexuality to a degree though!

Imagine the Idrissa has a teammate the came out like the Blackpool guy did, how you think he go’n feel. How’s Idrissa gonna fell if he’s discriminated cos of he’s skin color. It caught across both ways.

I said what I said nigga

It's not by force to support foolishness. You are free to say or be what you want but don't force me to support you. Very simple. That's one thing i like about muslims, they are not fickle about their beliefs.

LordReed:
That a future event may happen, yes.

How? maybe i should have the evidence you agree with.

LordReed:
Ok so no evidence, got it.

Is there evidence for the future in the form you perceive?

LordReed:
I dunno what he was referring to hence the question. Meanwhile what is the evidence of this judgement you speak about?

The coming judgment of the world. It's in the future.

LordReed:
Like Deborah Samuel was saved? No, thanks.

Wrong context. Salvation in the context there is from sin and the judgment of God on sinners. It's not salvation from running your mouth roughly.

The OP is still showing clear signs of schizophrenia. Take your meds bro and never take weed again.

Fendi man

HardMirror:
Oga lordreed, you see why I dont and would never sympathize with Christians? Very terrible people

Keep quiet murrormirror. His family and closest people are Christians and he doesn't see them as very terrible people.

Feggie3:
You are an illiterate. It is your type that Obi wants to salvage!! I hope you have not given birth yet so you don't produce another illiterate to cause nuisance in our space already polluted with empty dunce!

This one needs deliverance, he doesn't even know what he is typing. So shame.

jaxxy:
He is right we have shared our savings and everything and now we are sharing borrowed money while we are owing 58trillion and counting. we are sharing our future away.

Be like saw them swear for Nigeria oo

Will their salaries and all their emoluments be borrowed money? Are they all paying millions of naira for what has finished?

kayuseful:
Don't lift this out of context
The context is Muslims view of Jesus vs Christians
Jesus is "prophet", yes. But is He "prophet" in the way Muslims believe?
Is he just one of the prophets?

What context, who made or established context? In what context is Jesus Christ not a Prophet?

HardMirror:
you call the muslim god dead. But your own christian god could not protect the girl. Now you also want to fight for your own god. You see that you are delusional abi?

God doesn't promise to protect human foolishness. It is even clearly written and seen in His Word that Christians will be persecuted and killed.

Uprightness100:
Very Serious blasphemy! Comparing JESUS to a mere man is the highest form of blasphemy.
But we don't fight for GOD. HE Fights for us. We only Admonish people on who HE is. When you refuse, you will meet with Him when you cross over.

JESUS Christ is GOD!
JESUS Christ is the Son of GOD
JESUS Christ is the Only way to Heaven!

Jesus is Prophet, Priest, King, Lamb, Lion everything. Let's stop being sentimental.

scope man all. Liar liar Doyin Okupe na campaign director. i have not watched 5mins, Obi don lie say everything for sharing in government house has finished. Lori iro politicians dem.

Victor Glory. Change yourself bro, yourself. You have lamented about how everyone around you has problem except you. Also don't depend on marketing and writing to breakthrough. You can do them but don't make them top drivers.

Na wa. Most Nigerians are not objective. That's how we vote too, no critical thinking. Little wonder, all parts of the country is easily manipulated.

LordReed:
They were a majority in pre-Christian times so how do we not have stories from then.

Link to some of these confessions.

i hardly have anything from then like i said already. For confessions, go for evangelical outreaches in the rural areas.

LordReed:
Well then there is no reason to say they are religiously intolerant is there.

There is. While i don't know much of their history or precolonisation fables. It's very common of them to create skirmishes, bring juju and try to disturb with weather when Christians go on outreaches or evangelism in the villages. Like i said, if they were in the majority, we go hear am. They often confess especially after receiving salvation.

1Sharon:
Are we talking about intolerance or juju?

You mentioned traditionists firing their enemies with thunder and juju. And I told you the biggest practitioners of juju are your fellow Abrahamists.

Traditionalists aren't your problem.

This was the post that i replied and then you replied me. Stay on track Shanon.

i'm confused, magical how? You mean Nigeria's corruption is magical or what?

LordReed:
When we are talking of religious intolerance, yes it is.

i don't know their history that much.

LordReed:
Because the other person was worshipping a different god?

i don't know but is intolerance only limited to religion?

LordReed:
Well, if we cannot find examples of them being religiously intolerant then a future maybe scenario doesn't count.

Go to the village and see them sending juju to others there.

1Sharon:
Lol....as if abrahamists dont do juju.

I'm sure you've heard many news stories about imams or pastors caught with human body parts and skulls buried under their churches or wherever.

The biggest harm and threat to you believers come from your own fellow believers. You guys eventually resort to juju when you get desperate and your prayers fail you.
Some of you even combine traditional and abrahamic practises together.

Who are the people that are saying 'Ogun kill you in Jesus name'?

Stories of intolerance from Sango worshippers, stay on track Shanon.

LordReed:
LMFAO! Aside from Christians which other religion evangelises? Aside from Christians and Muslims which other religion is actively on a globaal conquest? Surely the devil must have a global religion counter. Bwahahahahahaha!

We're saying the same thing.

LordReed:
Seriously, only the Abrahamic faiths propagate the desire to dominate the whole world in the name of their god. What is so wrong in allowing people be? Why must you convert them to your beliefs or subjugate them with your religious practices?

I agree with you the traditionalists have it right in the area of tolerance, worship whatever god you care to, no disturbance.

Most traditionalists and their gods are local. They had much more little idea about the extent or largeness of the world. They are mere products of humans having a spiritual void and looking for something to worship. They didn't get big spiritual revelations.
Also their master the devil hardly seemed to care until Christian evangelism came in.
For centuries, Judaism was there without evangelism but standing as a unique peculiar race. But with Christianity came evangelism and the need to save, not dominate the world.
Devil rose in opposition and introduced the other religion to forcefully counter evangelism. Just like every fake takes inspiration from the original.

LordReed:
Before the advent of Christianity what stories of intolerance from Sango worshippers are on record?

Stories of firing their enemies with thunder and all sorts of juju.

LordReed:
I agree, religion should be kept out of government. However the focus here is on religious discrimination, traditionalists are not discriminatory that note.

A beggar has little or no choice. They are a very weak minority so you cannot say.

A001:
It's their god. Allah, like Yahweh, wants to rule and dominate the whole world.

There's even a chapter toward the end of the Qur'an that Muslims recite praying with the belief that the whole world will one day become Muslims.

The native gods like Olohun, Osanobua, Chineke and co. didn't have such ambition and so didn't design their religion with expansionistic and global agenda.

Since such a goal can only be realized within a relatively short time with the use of force and violence, Allah and Yahweh are violent gods.

But most of their counterparts in Africa are not.

God doesn't want to rule and dominate, He will. But He doesn't command believers to kill unbelievers for not believing, but to love them and pray for them like Paul who became an Apostle.

NNTR:
1 Kings 18:25-27
'25Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Since you are so numerous, choose for yourselves one bull and prepare it first. Then call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.”
26And they took the bull that was given them, prepared it, and called on the name of Baal from morning until noon, shouting, “O Baal, answer us!”
But there was no sound, and no one answered as they leaped around the altar they had made.
27At noon Elijah began to taunt them, saying,
“Shout louder, for he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or occupied, or on a journey. Perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened!”'

Elijah is an exception. Watch him above, ridiculing and mocking the prophets of Baal. Teasing and making fun of them and their god.

In fairness to Deborah RIP, she didnt mention prophet Mohamed's PBUH name directly. What aggravated and rubbed people the wrong way, was how she raved and ranted. She complained loudly and in angry forceful way, which was taken as being disrespectful to prophet Mohamed's PBUH, when finished her annoyed outburst with a 'nonsense prophet' ending.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Yeah, that's why i referred to the Gentiles/non-Jews. In principle, all believers "know" other gods are dead or yeye or powerless power. But leaving your zone or church or stronghold to go and aggravate things for yourself is simply unnecessary and unwise.
In the OT, people actually had "legal" backing to kill Israelites that worshipped other gods in Israel. Elijah wasn't really out of place in that context. If he went to Nineveh or Babylon or Assyria to do that, he might not have been carried by chariots of fire but by lynching and being set on fire.
Muslins don't know many prophets unlike in christianity where every Jack and Jim are prophets. To them, their prophet is the last, latest, greatest prophet etc. So you have to be very careful how you talk or refer to him.