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LordReed:
How is the outcome the same if I am an atheist and they were not? LoL. Na wa for comparison.

They are both sinners/unbelievers in God's sight and going to the same perishing destination.

LordReed:
You are funny. How you can compare someone who has not seen the supposed miracles of the god to people who supposedly have is such a stretch that Mister Fantastic would be jealous.

In effect you are saying I who have not seen are the same same with people who have seen but wanted more. Like how is the comparison close to the same. SMH LoL.

SMH, now you agree on the results/outcome right? Your question seems to be on the input. Your outcomes are same like i consistently stated. You both don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.

Crystyano:
Both you and some atheists here deserve to be stoned for accusing me baselessly!

God's grace has made sure that i don't get what i deserve but what Jesus Christ paid for. You that are not under God's grace, do you deserve to be given everything you shamelessly beg for? Tell me Victor.

LordReed:
How is seeing Moses comparable to all the other things they did see? Like the disparity is so huge your arms have to be paining you for the reaching you are doing. LoL

Like Proverbs says, the backslider is filled with his own ways. It's same for the two of you. Despite still having steady miracles like the pillar of cloud and fire and manna, your colleagues said they cannot find Moses, so they backslid. When they saw Moses, they still asked for something else to see. Same way you keep asking for something to see and more questions to be answered. Do you think that all people who have seen or see miracles are believers? Matthew 7v21 to 23 should guide you further.

mhmsadyq:
Religious on what terms?

Are you religious? Are you a Christian?

LordReed:
You are saying the similarity is that we didn't see when they saw. Also the Israelites didn't become atheists so what exactly is the similarity?

You said yourself that just because the Israelites couldn't see what they wanted to see, they turned against God. Brother, that is your exact story. You turned against God because you couldn't see what you wanted to see. An atheist, an idolater, a backslider are all same sinners and on the same route in God's sight and of course our sight.

LordReed:
And the question is how are we similar if they saw but I didn't?

You're asking about the input, i clearly state the output, outcome and result. Your results are similar, You both don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.
Many examples from the Bible and from experience show that seeing miracles and signs is not a guarantee for believing or serving God. Your similar friends are chief example among numerous others.

LordReed:
How can there be a similarity when they saw wonders that I haven't?

The part i put in bold(You don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.) is where you are similar. This is a characteristic you both definitely share in common.

LordReed:
Indeed so there can't be a similarity between me and the Israelites in that story. They supposedly saw wonders, I haven't.

Here's the similarity again in bold. You don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.

The seers are here again. How you see people who are alive in hell fire is a proof that you are deceived. Judgement is after death according to the Bible, judge nothing before the time.

kingxsamz:
Many People who condemn religion, its teachings and the fear of hell but believe in a god are funny to me because if you ask them which god they believe in, it's usually the Christian god, the god Which they grew up to believe in their Christian homes. I guess it's a step anyway since people are waking up to realize the fraud. The bigger clowns are the ones who say Christianity is not a religion.

You can be religious without being a Christian, let me keep it as simple as that because of your brain seizures.

Crystyano:
Tell damiloladuke to stop!


It's not right!

What can be right than giving you money when you beg up and down for it? Hope you didn't threaten him with suicide for him to send to you? How many years are you going to continue with this folly?
Only Jesus can save you, i can't dear.

LordReed:
I haven't seen anything on the scale of the supposed miracles the Israelites were supposed to have witnessed. If I had and then decided to not believe then the comparison would be similar. Can you show me anything similar to the Red Sea parting or manna or sticks turning into serpents and vice versa?

You don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.
We receive the truth not because of seeing
wonders, but because of trusting in the word of God

Crystyano:
You're the supplier of the drugs so I will report you to the NDLEA!!!!




So much for a productive brain!!!



You will still understand!!!

Victor, look for Jesus Christ. You just might find Him for the needed rest.

LordReed:
Hmmm, I think I vote for for not one person but a collection of persons, the Israelites that supposedly left Egypt with Moses. So these guys see all the miracles that their god did and then just because they couldn't see Moses anymore decide to make to make up another god. Add to these all the other shenanigans they got up to and I think they were hard to beat for foolishness.

Disclaimer: This is my treatise of the Bible as a work of fiction not a source of faith.

Two funny things. One is that you probably share similar views with godly people on the reactions of the Israelites though we will not call anyone stupid, especially a redeemed child of God. The second is that you are hardly different from them in the sense that you don't believe in God just because you don't see what you want to see.

Crystyano:
My family has had to face certain things....as for you,if you don't stop saying what nobody asked you to say , your family may have to understand that something miserable can exist later.... that's how it is..... let's watch and see if bastards will not have the useless government nowhere to justify their rubbish..


We shall see.

Victor it appears you now do drugs, too bad. Take care and get something productive to do in 2022, we are six days in already.

Crystyano:
Do you want your family to weep?

No. Do you?

efficiencie:
Who knows you may be in her shoes real soon...and when that time comes we will see how forgiving and selfless you are!

Keep quiet. Tell her to learn to forgive and be selfless, and you should learn same too instead of praying for others to be in bad shoes.

Lol, this attention seeker has been released from prison or something? Imagine some nonentity calling Abraham stupid? Yet his generation from himself 12 generations back and forward (added together) can never command 10% of the respect and success of Abraham. Are you sure he's not under a spell already?

God doesn't answer selfish prayers. The world doesn't have to be in pain because you are in pain. Let go of bitterness and let God. Imagine if she died now in unforgiveness based on hearsay, she would go to hell. The people she's cursing may even go to Heaven. Judge nothing before the time.

Steep:
they already did

Comical

How does this relate to the religion section? They go soon tell us say matter is Omniscient and Alpha and Omega. Comedians.

hupernikao:
I don't get you well. Or likely the message is not for me. Kindly clarify this

Ohh, it was actually for Myers, the post that you quoted. Didn't know that it was your post that i quoted.

Ayo081:
Maybe they believe when they honour their Pastor they in turn honour God

Maybe they do it to receive blessings, anointing, healing etc

You're right. It's not a Bible command but more of a culture thing. Some people are brought up that way, others copy it. i've been in places where "subordinates" and younger ones don't feel comfortable sitting down if you are talking directly to them. This was just general "domestic" talk oh, not even preaching or praying. Had to get tired of telling them to sit because i was feeling a bit embarrassed by their standing.
We hear of people grabbing the legs of musicians, going crazy or naked for football stars, finals etc. Imagine such a person having an understanding that God is speaking to him through the preacher. He'll do what he feels is honourable.
We saw John and co prostrate in worship for angels talking to them until corrected. Maybe some will say they are putting up show, or don't know Bible, or aren't as spiritual as they are.

Because you are more interested in his gifts than in the Giver, and follow his doctrine instead of the doctrine of Christ. Even Paul said not to follow him if he did something unscriptural. Look up to Jesus Christ, He is the Author and Finisher of the faith.

hupernikao:
Well you never addressed my points. But I will still treat your thoughts as separate.

Which of the chronology is he basing his assumption on. That will help us streamline his error.

Myer:
He based his calculations on biblical chronology.
Why does the bible give chronologies if according to you they're not meant to be taken seriously?

Lol, on Bible chronology or on some theologians chronology? Are all theologians in agreement? You have a Bible and you study it, which makes you a theologian in your class too. Maybe you should help him or us with this startling chronology so that we can throw away our Bibles on time.

HardMirror:
Do you know we can accurately calculate when the great flood in the bible supposedly happened?

The lifespans in Genesis 11 span from Abram back to the Flood. When we add the years listed in Genesis 11 to Abram’s birth year 2166 B.C., we get about 2472 B.C. for the Flood year. Add the 1,656 years from Genesis 5 to that and we get nearly 4128 B.C.

So the flood happened around 2472 B.C.
https://www.icr.org/article/when-did-noahs-flood-happen


So what is the problem?

The problem is, this was the same period Egypt started to flourish and develop rapidly.

This was the same time the great pyramids of Egypt where built.
The Fourth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty IV) is characterized as a "golden age" of the Old Kingdom of Egypt. Dynasty IV lasted from c. 2613 to 2494 BC.[1] It was a time of peace and prosperity as well as one during which trade with other countries is documented.


In fact king Khufu who built the largest pyramids became pharaoh of egypt just 200 years after the great flood that was supposed to wipe out every human on earth and only Noah and 7 members of his family are supposed to be the only ones left.

So how come King Khufu had a Nation of people who could build the largest pyramids in just 200 years from just 8 people that survived the flood?

Dont forget that King Khufu also had a predecessor? How come?

We have proof and a list of all the Pharoahs of Egypt even all through the period that this flood should have happened.

From the 4th dynasty to the 6th dynasty

From 2600bc to 2100bc

So when did this flood happen? And how come there are records of nations always existing all through this period that the whole world should have been wiped out?

This is proof the bible is nothing but blatant lies if only we would ask questions.

HardMirror:
Image123 and maxinthehouse can you explain this to me ?

See blatant lie in your bible o

Just seeing this today, i hope you have gotten answers to your questions and will now embrace the Bible after the answers? Or you will go and look for the next question? Welcome to 2022, make it a year of less fighting and struggling, especially with your Maker.

Your enquiry is very simple, salvation is a personal experience. It is not something that is separated by wikipedia and other news, actually there is nothing new under the Sun.
It is very simple Math (primary 4 addition) that you need to stop the joke you posted.
From your assumption source(s), Moses is generally assumed to have lived about 1400BC. Meanwhile between Abraham and Moses is already going to 1000years. You too reason it? Is that not already up to your date that is giving you joy?
From normal CRK knowledge, you can verify from your Bible. Add up the ages of the people giving birth to their children.

Abraham(100) + Isaac(40) + Jacob (lets say 150 and not add Joseph till death) + Slavery before Moses (430 years approx.) If you pick up calculator and add Genesis 11v10 to 26, you will get another 400+years. This is way past your assumptions. And this is supposing that your revered assumers are accurate enough on the time between Moses and Jesus.

Your assumption is premised on another ignorant assumption that you need billions of people to build the pyramids. Yet same science will tell us people were not many at all in those days, not even up to 50 million. You are over 200million in your country, can you build pyramid?

Speaklove:
You have spoken well in wisdom.

Who is this " true Christ ?"

Thanks and God bless you too. He is the One found in every Bible.

HardMirror:
be tracking my comments on nairaland up and down.

i don't need to track your comments na. It appears automatically

FreedomfromtheT:
We know that Bible doctrine refers to teachings contained in the Bible or Scriptures for Christians to follow. Sometimes, we here of soso church's doctrine. Is it that some denominations have their separate doctrines from that of the Bible or that others dropped or stopped emphasizing certain Bible doctrines while a few continue teaching and practicing such and as a result people label such that particular Church's doctrine? What is the difference between Church tradition and Church doctrine? Mature response needed.

Bible doctrine is teaching found in the Bible that can be established from different Bible witnesses. Church doctrine and tradition is practice that a church is used to, usually a result of personal style. Like there's different types of administration and leadership. We all have our preferences, styles of music, dress preferences, colour choice, teaching patterns, programme schedules etc.

HardMirror:
lol. Comrade off the mic.

No need for him to off his mic. God respects our value of time and encourages us to take stock and number our days. Some of you think God has to come down or write how you should drink garri before He shows approval or pleasure.

petra1:
My friends need to know na. Maybe I for add "praise God for answered prayers" to it

Happy new year Jo, no need for you to deceive the gullible though. The article you posted said that the expired vaccine was destroyed, you added that they were injected. Is that not subtle deception? How many of such people do you know? Who do you know that took vaccine and died or is worse off because of it? There's no need to force your narrative on people. Humble yourselves and accept you were very wrong on this, and move on. All these sniffing for news to quickly say "I told you, my pastor said it" is kinda immature. You know i try telling you the truth as your friend.