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How this one take concern religion section Jo?

i'm officially embarrassed, over 90% of the comments are about tribe ego.

IMAliyu:
Defining what you mean by "intelligent" will be helpful.

Whatever you understand by intelligence.

It is simple proof of the Bible. There was high intelligence among humans that went down generally as man fell, and it has come up and spiked again as prophesied in the Bible that knowledge will increase.

HardMirror:
what created humans and why do you think humans must have been created

i like that word "think" that you used. Humans are the most intelligent creatures on the planet by a big FAR. There is no right thinking to think that they just happened. There is nothing so detailed and specific and intelligent that just happened, so why should our beginning be the exception? Can you give two examples of intelligent thing s that just happened without creation? God remains the undisputed Creator, we are still awaiting His challenger.

Myer:
Are you dust? Since that's what the bible says.

You don't seem to understand evolution theory.

It isn't that all living organisms are algae. It simply implies that every form of living organism is a by product of the mutations of the algae after billions of years, animals and humans inclusive.

According to the Bible, man is dust in the sense that he is created from dust/earth. This is true when you observe and compare the elements. So of course i agree.
You obviously do not understand the Bible, otherwise you will know that the Bible has nothing against evolution. What you refer to as the evolution theory seems to include that man evolved from algae, i do not agree to that and there is no proof of that. Just beliefs, so why should i leave my belief to believe your belief?
Where is that point when/where man mutates from algae? Did you see or capture it, or you expect me to follow what professors Emeritus also accept to be confusion and disagree on?

Myer:
Well, I did not claim it's an absolute truth.
I simply countered your argument that there's no proof that creationism isn't true.

Algae is not born or created but simply develop under the right conditions.

Exactly why i asked you if you are algae. i am not an expert on algae but that algae is developed doesn't mean humans are not created. They are not the same are they?

Myer:
I have not had any engagement with you before so I won't assume to know where you're coming from or where youre going.

My point is simple, an algae is a proof that there is a proof to evolutionism due to algae.

Hear little about your proof.

"Division-level classification, as with kingdom-level classification, is tenuous for algae. "

"Furthermore, the apparent evolutionary scatter of some algae among protozoan and fungal groups implies that a natural classification of algae as a class is impracticable."

"The class Dinophyceae is of uncertain origin and is taxonomically contentious. "

"The origin of the chromophyte algae also remains unknown."

"The Euglenophyceae are believed to be an ancient lineage of algae that includes some zooflagellate protozoa, which is supported by ultrastructural and molecular data, though the group is taxonomically contentious. "

"the fossil record for some groups of algae has hindered evolutionary studies, and the realization that some algae are more closely related to protozoa or fungi than they are to other algae came late, producing confusion in evolutionary thought and delays in understanding the evolution of the algae."

These ridiculous quotes are from scientific studies . i cannot base my existence or that of my family and loved ones on changing human suggestions and confusion. It is insane, to be mild.

Myer:
I had to suppress my basic instinct to retort.

Now my argument is not that I believe in evolution.
You posed a question which I proffered an answer to.

Evolutionists believe all living organisms are off-shoots of the algae. Tha algae being the oldest living creature in all existence because it is the only known creature that doesnt need to be born or created. It only needs the right conditions and it is formed and then probably natural selection ensued as time progressed and other creatures were formed.

They believe, i believe. Hmmm. Why are those right conditions not turning algae into humans in 2021?

Myer:
The study of algae shows they simply just exist/develop under the right conditions without being born or created.
That sounds like an evidence that life wasn't created.

You must be algae then.

hupernikao:
Every belief system that is not of God is coming down next year. Either imagination, knowledge, thoughts, mindset etc. The walls have cracked. They will all fall flat in 2022.

Even HardMirror will be rejoicing in God's light next year. LordReed sef is doing pressup warming up. All lines with fall in great places in 2022.

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

This is the clear and undoubtedly true Word of God. If you are praying and hoping, make it clear so that you don't become a laughing stock or make the mockers here blame the Faith.

HardMirror:
Just so you know and perhaps you can think...

1. No single evidence for creationism
2. There are thousands of evidence that supports evolution.
3. Creationism teaches that life came from nothing, yet creationists keep asking where life started with evolution?

There is absolutely no reason to believe a god created life and no evidence for it.

if you have evidence or superior arguement that supports creationism over evolution tell us, cause no one in the world has so far presented any evidence that life was created


Happy Sunday

You forgot to add that there is no shred of evidence that life wasn't created. All living things today point to the fact that they didn't just happen. Wake up.

LordReed:
So what is the criteria for who gets to have an NDE?

No criteria, like i said there's nothing serious to it. It's like asking for criteria of who gets dreams or has sharp premonitions or who gets more hiccups. There's no trophy for it.

LordReed:
Good for you! I am waiting for more concrete information.

It's almost irrelevant. Everything concrete you may need from the afterlife is easily seen in the Bible or by God's help.

LordReed:
Whether you are a Christian or Muslim or Buddhist or atheist, you must walk on ground, breathe air, see the sun and feel breeze. These are basic objective experiences of any human been on the planet regardless of location or subjective experience. What is the equivalent for NDEs?

Of course, NDEs are not for everyone are they? It is not a BASIC experience for us all to pass through, it is only few that do. What we have proven is that no matter the experience, we do not all have it the same. Even the way you feel when happy or when your favourite hero/team wins is not the same for everyone. It is not even the same level for you every time. This does not in any way invalidate the experience(s).

LordReed:
Neither have you nor are you an expert.

Good that you accept that we are both non-experts. My confidence is in Jesus who has been there, done that and awaits us all after death/rapture.

Effects of the crazy music around.

HappyPagan:
It's been about a decade now. Hope y'all doing well.

muskee, we are doing well.
i do miss JeSoul though, and Enigma, Ihe and co.

LordReed:
So a captain sends out 3 scouts in a particular direction and distance. They all reach the same spot and come back. 1st one says there are enemy combatants advancing on our position. 2nd says I didn't see anybody. 3rd says I only saw farmers working. Which of the 3 is the captain supposed to believe?

Why do you assume that they all went the same direction and distance? i guess that's why you have that opinion that they must experience same thing. Ordinary vaccine that is the same dose and exactly same composition doesn't work the same experience in people. So you think it's life and death that will be the same. All humans come to Earth in life but still definitely not the same destination or experience. Same life, same Earth but all different birth experiences. Why do you suppose that afterlife which is far greater and bigger must be the same? Are you among those that wrote the laws of afterlife?

LordReed:
It's not about having the same experiences but about having the same baseline. Having different NDEs means there is no objective "afterlife".

That remains your subjective opinion. You have never even experienced one before, neither are you an expert in any way.

This one marriage no wan last one week.

LordReed:
The two plants are planted in the same ground, take in the same CO2 and give off the same oxygen. There consistency in the environment in which they thrive. There is no consistency in NDEs, well not in any way that can lead to the conclusion that there is an objective afterlife. One set of NDEs have people who see dead relatives while another set only see light at the end of a tunnel, neither which represents anything like what Christians are lead to believe would happen in death. It is quite clear these are not subjective experiences of an objective "realm".

The point is obvious, the two plants don't grow the same way or length. Despite many similarities, we can't all have the same experiences. This is the reality of life. Your opinion that life should be the same is unrealistic. Having different NDEs is very normal and expected just like other experiences in life. It doesn't invalidate the experience, we don't live in a laboratory.

LordReed:
All human babies when they are born, irrespective of skin colour or circumstances of their birth or whether their parents are rich or poor, they must breathe oxygen. There are facts about this life that are incontrovertible and must be experienced as a baseline by all living humans. To suggest that there is no baseline from which all so called afterlife can be experienced is more than an obvious dodge.

The two plants in the same place planted same day don't grow the same way both give out oxygen and take in CO2. Doesn't stop them from being different in other aspects. Don't know if that or different DNAs, blood groups, body temperature and blood pressure count as dodges for you, they are the obvious reality of life.

This is clearly JW pattern, majoring on minors. Who number of wise men help? Does knowing or not knowing the number of wise men save anyone, or take someone to Heaven, or draw anyone closer to God? No. It is foolish dik shaking contests like this that they use to swindle the gullible. Yet, you'll see them breaking bottle on each other's head despite their CRK knowledge.

LordReed:
Well shouldn't everybody who nearly dies be having NDEs if there was truly an objective experience called afterlife?

Life is different or like they say not balanced. Two plants in the same place planted same day don't grow the same way. Same goes for twins or children or animals born the same day and even time. You don't need or require the same experience(s). My none dramatic conversion is as valid as Paul's dramatic conversion. Not everyone dreams or at least remembers dreams. All living cells in your body are not even the same, so why do you presume all deaths(NDEs) must be the same way?

Many cultists on this thread including the OP.

HardMirror:
lol. For real?! Who or what shows up for Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, confucians, muslims, ATR practitioners? How is your life better than any of these group of people? Bro good and misfortunes happens to all humans irrespective of their religion

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Jesus Christ didn't promise a world without troubles, i guess your mind is messed up with the "prosperity gospel" preaching you've mostly heard. You ask if God showed up for me and i gladly, proudly and confidently answer to that. You are free to ask the others you seem so concerned about on what shows up for them. i talk about what i know and have seen and handled. Literally, i speak for myself.

Crystyano:
Is it on Xmas day?


I was able to get some drugs but I don't have enough foodstuffs.

This looks like and smells like Victor, it is Victor still.

Initial muslin gragra dey worry this one.

It is much more dangerous to listen to this woman. People, read your Bible if you want to grow, not all these people telling tales.

HardMirror:
every thing you know about god or think you know about God are things humans created your god to be. Or have you seen god speak for himself anywhere?

Yes, He shows up several times for me.

Mar 12:25 KJV For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

The Bible doesn't teach about people becoming greater than angels. In fact, Jesus very much dissuaded His disciples about this "greater than" who talk. Follow the Bible, you'll hardly miss God that way.