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LordReed:
Elon Musk doesn't have faith yet he is the richest man and supremely confident too. Faith might play into it but it cannot be even the majority of the story.

Faith is not even mainly for wealth making or accumulation to start with, neither is it by any means the only means to get wealth. Just like selling electric cars isn't the only route to great wealth. BTW, is Musk now the richest guy, i used to think it was the Amazon fellow.

LordReed:
It totally is manipulative.

How is the constant giving indicative that it isn't manipulative?

I never mentioned anything about poor or becoming less wealthy so I dunno why you are mentioning that to me.

Manipulation usually refers to "taking advantage of a victim to get power, control, benefits, and/or privileges at the expense of the victim." It refers to an harmful influence or control over others. Maybe you should pick a better word in the case.

LordReed:
It can't be simply faith in god or else every believer in god would exude the same confidence. I am inclined to think it is something more integral to his personality than anything else.

We do not all have the same level and gift of faith. It is unto you according to your faith.

LordReed:
Okey dokey

Worked on this all week trying to get known contacts, still to no avail. i'll still check though.

LordReed:
He is adept that's for sure and exudes so much confidence you are inclined to accept what he says.

It's faith in God, you can try exuding the same confidence in nothing and see the difference.

Tareq1105:
They would not allow Living Faith to fix the road bcoz:

I. Bishop Oyedepo will do it by himself and will not release the money to government officials.

II. Government officials will not make money from contractors.

III. Government officials will not be able to inflate the contract price.

Note that Living Faith has the capacity to do it but other interest are involved just as I mentioned above.

Quite true this, i once had similar experience working at a place and the company wanted to fix the road but they were frustrated so badly by the government. The road remains worse off till date.

LordReed:
Bishop Oyedepo is masterful in priming people especially in the area of giving. The entire Shiloh program is just a way to prime people to "sacrifice". And the way he does it is so slick, unless you are not really paying attention you'll think he was talking about anything else but his focus is always on the Shiloh "sacrifice". Then he has added the direct building of churches by individuals meaning the Living Faith organisation will not need to expend as much in establishing new branches. So someone else will build the church building but he'll be the one to reap the rewards of increased membership.

I listened to most of the broadcast and was constantly shaking my head in amazement at his masterful manipulation.

It's not manipulative. You saw and know the amount of wealthy members and ministers that "give" the so called sacrifice and keep giving. It hasn't made them any less wealthy.
If people claim that the majority of the church is poor, how come their total estimates giving is in the millions and billions? And this giving is everytime and every year, no break. If Jesus tarries, it will still be the same story 10years from now.

LordReed:
So his vision after he left home was not a sign that the god was favouring him?

God was favouring him and with him, but that is different from the birthright blessings that he wanted from Isaac.

Genesis 27:29 Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother's sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee.

The whole family had the Abrahamic blessings and of course their normal parents prayers/blessings. That's different from what he tried getting from Esau earlier for porridge.

LordReed:
So Isaac's prayer was meaningless?

Pretty much, until later when Jacob repented when he met with the Angel at Jabbok.

HappyPagan:
Hopefully not as much as He loves His Son. He sacrificed that one. May you not be sacrificed....your blood won't even wash away a snail's sin.

Just as much dear, just as much. You somehow forgot the final scores, you probably watched the highlight with poor data.

Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

HappyPagan:
God loves you so dearly, Image. God really loves you. I get it.

You need to know. He loves me too much.

HappyPagan:
God unfortunately hardly answers the prayers of anyone. A billion prayers will go unanswered by the end of today.... yours too..

He answered already, sorry.

HappyPagan:
God bless and press you.

God unfortunately hardly answers the prayers of sinners except of course you are repenting.

HappyPagan:
I see the coronavirus has been good to you, my number one lover

God is your number one Lover. God has been good to me, covid has not been able to stop us.

LordReed:
I am going to assume you won't ask. Here's an alternative, take a historical note of the poor among your congregation and see how many of them are no longer poor over time.

My case is different as it were God delivered me from poverty over time.

CAPSLOCKED:
ON THE INTERNET: "MASTURBATĮION IS FOR SMALL BROKE BOYS WHO CAN'T AFFORD WOMEN".
ON THIS THREAD: "MASTURBATĮION IS FOR WEAK MEN WITH NO GAME".
IN THE CHURCH GROUP: "MASTURBATĮION IS FOR PEOPLE USED BY THE DEVIL AND YOU'LL ALL GO TO HELLFIRE".


MEANWHILE, IN REALITY, MARRIED MEN WHO HAVE MANAGED TO ACCUMULATE WEALTH (AND MAYBE GAME) AND HAS NOW ACQUIRED WOMEN (IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD THROUGH THE HOLY SACRAMENT OF MATRIMONY), ARE THE BIGGEST OF MASTURBATORS. BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST SEX-STARVED GROUP IN ANY SOCIETY.

MANY MARRIED MEN, UNLESS THEY RESORT TO EXTRA-MARITAL AFFAIRS, LACK SUFFICIENT SEX. THEIR WIVES HOARD THIS THING LIKE PALLIATIVES AND ONLY "GIVE IT" TO THEM (AS A REWARD) WHEN THEY DELIVER PROMISES, SUBMIT CASH & GIFTS, OR COMPLETE ERRANDS AND CHORES.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE MARRIED PIOUS MEN ARE FACING, AND YOU'LL NEVER KNOW EVEN IF YOU LISTEN TO THEM, UNTIL YOU GET MARRIED TOO.

Rants of delusions from a single impious boy. He sees in his dreams what pious married men do without them telling him. Isn't God wonderful?

HappyPagan:
I know who made me.. a young man and woman who feel in love some odd years ago.. they had beautiful sex and a few months later, I was born.

My makers are still alive. I hope to do them proud.

Lol,you break their hearts by godlessness selfishpagan. Even them will tell you about your Maker. The vicissitudes of life have dealt a hard one on your weak soul, pele.

He was never there in the first place.

kumulus:
Tell me something I don't already know....

i already did.

kumulus:
....but the Lion of Judah is a perfect representation of Peace and Safety abi??!

Nope, the Lion depicts authority, ruling and reigning. The Lamb is more of peace.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



THERE ARE EIGHT LEVELS OF LIFE: SEVEN HEAVENLY AND ONE EARTHLY- THESE LEVELS ARE ORDERED ACCORDING TO THEIR SPIRITUAL POWER LEVELS, AND PROXIMITY/REMOTENESS TO THE THRONE OF GOD.

The Seventh Heaven Life is the most powerful, while the first Heaven Life is the least powerful, but is on a higher Spiritual Energy level than Earthly Life.



God created Man to have Dominion over Earthly Life: to that end, He gave Man Heavenly Life, when He created Adam.

[color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 2:7-22.

7. And The LORD God
formed Man of
the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils
The Breath of Life;
and man became
a Living Soul.
8. And the LORD God
planted a Garden
Eastward in Eden;
and there He put the Man
whom He had formed.
9. And out of the ground
made The LORD God
to grow every tree
that is pleasant to the sight,
and good for food;
The Tree of Life also
in the midst of the garden,
and The Tree of Knowledge
of Good and Evil.

10. And a river went out of Eden
to water the garden;
and from thence it was parted,
and became into four heads.
11. The name of the first is Pison:
that is it which compasseth
the whole land of Havilah,
where there is gold;
12. And the gold of that land is good:
there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13. And the name of the second river
is Gihon:
the same is it that compasseth
the whole land of Ethiopia.
14. And the name of the third river
is Hiddekel:
that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria.
And the fourth river is Euphrates.

15. And The LORD God took the Man,
and put him into the Garden of Eden
to dress It and to keep It.
16. And The LORD God Commanded
the Man,
Saying,

"Of every Tree of the Garden
thou mayest freely eat:
17. "But of the Tree of The Knowledge
of Good and Evil,
thou shalt not eat of it:
for in the day that thou
eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

18. And The LORD God Said,

"It is not good that the Man
should be alone;
I will make him
an help meet for him."

19. And out of the ground
The LORD God formed
every Beast of the Field,
and every Fowl of the Air;
and brought them unto Adam
to see what he would call them:
and whatsoever Adam called
every living creature,
that was the name thereof.
20. And Adam gave names to all Cattle,
and to the Fowl of the Air,
and to every Beast of the Field;
but for Adam there was not found
an help meet for him.
21. And The LORD God caused
a deep sleep to fall upon Adam,
and he slept:
and He took one of his ribs,
and closed up the flesh
instead thereof;
22. And the rib,
which The LORD God had
taken from Man,
made he a Woman,
and brought her unto the Man.

GOD BREATHED INTO ADAM'S NOSTRILS DIRECTLY, THUS GIVING MAN HIS HEAVENLY SPIRIT.

[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 20:19-23.

19. Then the same day at evening,
being the first day of the week,
when the doors were shut
where the Disciples were assembled
for fear of the Jews,
came Jesus and stood in the midst,
and saith unto them,

"Peace (be) unto you."

20. And when he had so said,
he shewed unto them his hands
and his side.
Then were the Disciples glad,
when they saw the Lord.
21.Then Said Jesus to them again,

"Peace (be) unto you:
as (my) Father hath sent me,
even so send I you."

22.And when he had said this,
he breathed on them,
and saith unto them,

"Receive ye The Holy Ghost:
23. "Whose soever Sins ye remit,
they are remitted unto them;
(and) whose soever (Sins) ye retain,
they are retained."

GOD HAS SEVEN DIFFERENT SPIRITS, EACH OPERATING ON A SUCCESSIVELY HIGHER SPIRITUAL ENERGY LEVEL THAN THE ONE BENEATH IT.



WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING ARE INTRINSIC TO HEAVENLY LIFE FORCE, BUT NOT TO EARTHLY LIFE FORCE.

To receive Heavenly Life, one must receive Heavenly Wisdom and Understanding.



[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever
I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF there arise among you a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or
the Wonder come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM;"

3. Thou shalt not hearken unto
The Words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD your God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to death;
because he hath spoken
to turn you away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the Land of Egypt,
and Redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee out of The Way
which The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.

IT IS VERY BAD TO ADD TO SCRIPTURE OR TO SUBTRACT FROM SCRIPTURE- IT THEN BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND.



THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT OF THE LAW, FOR US, IS TO CHOOSE LIFE.

The Commandments of God must be agreed-with on all six levels of Existence.

Agreement with the Commandments is agreement with God.

At the level of TOTAL UNDERSTANDING, an living imprint of the MIND, KNOWLEDGE, PERSONALITY, and POWER of God is recorded on the Soul, to permanently abide with the true Worshippers of God.


[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 14:15-28.

15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because it seeth him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not
leave you Comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World
seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. At that day ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me, and I in you.
21. "He that hath
my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest
myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it that
thou wilt manifest thyself
unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
He will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. “These things
have I Spoken unto you,
being (yet) present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
(Which is) The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in My Name,
He shall Teach you All Things
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have
Said unto you.
27 “Peace I leave with you;
My Peace I give unto you,
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid.
28. "Ye have heard
how I Said unto you,

'I GO AWAY,
AND COME AGAIN
UNTO YOU.'

If ye loved me,
ye would rejoice,
because I Said,

'I GO UNTO THE FATHER:'

for my Father
is greater than I."



THE RESURRECTION OF SAINTS ALONGSIDE LORD YESHUA PROVES THAT GOD REWARDS HIS SERVANTS WITH LIFE, NOT DEATH- THAT EVEN A RIGHTEOUS PERSON WHO BELIEVES ON LORD YESHUA AFTER THEIR DEATH WILL NOT REMAIN DEAD.



FALSE RELIGION CANNOT ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTIONS- THE TRUE RELIGION HAS WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.



THOSE WHO MEDITATE IN THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES WILL UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, HERE ON EARTH.



THE JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES® ARE A BUNCH OF IDIOTS, WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 27:52-53.

52. And the graves were opened;
and many bodies of the Saints
which slept arose,
53. And came out of the graves
after his Resurrection,
and went into the holy city,
and appeared unto many.

THIS IS WHAT MATTHEW SAID HAPPENED: THE JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES® ARE JUST A BUNCH OF FOOLS WHO SAY THAT IT NEVER HAPPENED.

I imagine most of the supposed Christians here are fools, who do not know that the Jehovah's Witlesses® do NOT believe that Lord Yeshua rose from the Dead with his Physical Body.

They do not believe that The Bible says anything It says- only what their Oyinbo Masters tell them It says.



[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 27:52-53.

52. And the graves were opened;
and many bodies of the Saints
which slept arose,
53. And came out of the graves
after his Resurrection,
and went into the holy city,
and appeared unto many.

MaxInDHouse IS A LIAR, WHO SIMPLY DENIES WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS HAPPENED.

MATTHEW SAID that THE GRAVES OPENED, SOME SAINTS CAME OUT, AND MANY PEOPLE SAW THEM.

MaxInDHouse says that none of those things happened.

If you believe MATTHEW, MaxInDHouse is useless to you, because you know he is an Unfaithful Witless Witness.

If you believe MaxInDHouse, you cannot trust yourself to understand anything in The Bible again, unless MaxInDHouse tells you how to Believe It.

This is what SLAVERY is.

FREEDOM occurs when one attains THE SEVEN LEVELS OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING, and requires no MAN to tell one what to BELIEVE, THINK, READ, SPEAK, WRITE, or DO.

i can't read through such a ridiculously long post, i have many things to do.

LordReed:
Why would I since I don't believe in that.

Same reason you should not assume or conclude on a particular opinion for her.

LordReed:
Offline or online meeting? I would like first be convince the person is indeed able to reveal details that they won't otherwise know. After that we'll go from there.

Okay, online or offline will be up to you. Let's see how i can sort out the details i guess.

LordReed:
Yeah any arrangement you can make will be fine.

So what's the goal of this meeting? What are your expectations and what will be your reaction if your expectations are met?

LordReed:
In this and the other video it is clear she is talking about this life not some nebulous after life. And she is talking about receiving answers to specific prayers not some vague "ALL things work together for good to them who love God" gimmick.

Talking about this life knowing there's an afterlife. You seem to be the only one not factoring that in.

Ayo081:
You should tell him that this gift is very easy to be 'misplaced' or 'buried' (trying to look for a word that fits).

I met a brother who told me he had that gift but now gone due to sexual sin, drinking and mingling with people he shouldn't. The devil usually attack those who have that gifts sometimes through jealousy from others who operates in other gifts.

Wow, that's unfortunate. Power comes with responsibility though. Reed thinks everyone should have it, not everyone is that consecrated.

Which kain wahala come be this bayi?

LordReed:
Do you know anyone with the gift?

i've met a couple and i think i know a few. i've not met them in a long while though. i'm guessing you want to meet them, which sort of complicates my very much enjoyed facelessness. But if that's what you'd be asking, i will think up something not too linkable.

LordReed:
Well then, did you check to see if I was following her?

This post quoted below is a direct contradiction of the platitude "god is not late"


Annie Johnson Flint for instance suffered a lifelong illness that was still there when she died. There is no doubt she prayed for succour than never came, directly contradicting the platitude.

No, i didn't check if you are following her, i noticed you were quoting/mentioning her posts/threads. i was referring to the fact that my following you isn't a secret or new development.
Your understanding of the platitude is likely the problem. When people say God is not late, it is with an understanding of His own time and terms. They are not saying that "bad" things don't happen, but that ALL things work together for good to them who love God. They know that despite tribulations and trials, they trust in God and have overcome the world. These are people who believe in an afterlife(a glorious and eternal one at that). They are people who know and accept that the will and wisdom of God is better than life. You on the other hand think that life is all there is to it.

MyExpression:
It wasn't stated in the bible,e that Adam was a wholly perfect being.

Life has taught us that we grow into the next stage...life is bout growth, which is subject to time.

i guess you're struggling with the definition of perfection then.

LordReed:
LMFAO! You make my point for me even more clearly. Your god is a mental construct in your mind so he can only tell you things about you, he CANNOT tell you about me. I no longer have that mental construct so I can't receive messages from "god" however because I still have my intuitions I can still operate intuitively, only I no longer attribute it to a god.

So should I expect you are suppressing some hidden sexual attraction to me. Bwahahahahaha!

Lol, mental construct indeed.
Psalms 136:4 To him who alone doeth great wonders: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Psalms 138:6 Though the LORD be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off.

If you draw near to God in humility, He will reveal what you need. He's not at your mercy or beck and call. Those who know God know that He'd not usually reveal or say things irrelevant for the fun of it, neither does He engage in gossip and tattling. If God has a message or sends you to someone or people, that's different. He could send specifically to bless or warn.
Like i explained, what you seek for is close to what is called the gift of the Word of knowledge(one of the gifts of the Spirit baptism). Fortunately or unfortunately for you, i don't have it. It's not a major requirement for being a Christian or a child of God. Nonetheless, there are people who have it. It hardly proves anything that you haven't met people who do. You can meet 2 million people and none of them is a pilot, or from Switzerland. It doesn't mean that pilots and Swiss people don't exist. It simply means you should increase your search intelligence and base seeing you're looking for them. i can't repair your broken phone or TV to save my life, but i have met people who can. We don't all do or know the same things.
On the attraction, it is divine actually.

ObaOfUyo:
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Unam ikot

Do you speak English?