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budaatum:
I do not "believe" God. And sorry, I'm not buying as I have better things to spend my money on. But I won't mind chatting with a person who sells reason and logic so long as they use what they sell. Such people are very interesting to chat with and rather sadly few on here.

Wrong number, majamaja come and take your body guide ohhhh

budaatum:
You are not selling? Are you spoiling someone elses market for no reason then?

I don't believe you! It sounds like you are selling reason and logic here.

Believe God, not me. Do you have anything important to do or you need me to chat?

budaatum:
And you can easily decide to purchase what he advertises or move on and advertise your own, I'm sure.

You never know. He might shut down his shop and help you sell your's if your advertising and wares are superior to his.

i'm not selling.

hakeem4:
no special pleading here.

What do you mean by higher realm?

Omniscient knowing everything.
Omnipresent Everywhere at every time
Omnipotent having unlimited power.

Can god create a rock he cannot lift ?

Realm refers to sphere, department, class, domain, region or spectrum. Many people feel the realm of logic is the greatest or highest. You for example, will expect everything to be reasonable and logical. Unfortunately, everything is not reasonable and logical. Everything is not scientific or calculation. The laboratory is very different from real life.

As much as you revere the laboratory and expect anything true or believable to be subject to it, things do not work that way. Love is what everyone seems to know or feel so let me use it as an example. Love is a reality, it is an emotion that everyone speaks well of. i guess you will agree that love is not in the class of reason or logic or commonsense? Yet many would rather choose love. It is in a similar vein that God is not in the class of logic or commonsense. Many atheists will say He needs to be in that class/realm for Him to exist. Do you say the same for love?

We will both agree that love MAY agree with logic, but it does not always agree. Actually, i would argue that it does not usually agree. The take away is this, there are realities that do not operate by and are not subject to the realm/class of logic. It does not make them lesser. If you understand this little take away, you may proceed to the second. It is that God is not in the class of logic. It doesn't mean He is unreasonable or illogical, like we will not say every love or anger or emotion is illogical and unreasonable. God is not a subject of logic or reasoning. He operates above it. This is beyond most of you's class, so i do not really expect you all to catch it. The ones who are smart enough to learn will learn. Some will be too proud and quickly unlearn it. They'd perhaps mutter a few curses like children of goliath.

Your definitions of the Omnis are your definition. So what is the Bible's definition? Or why do you tjink God is omni anything?

Oh, the rock question. Can man create something he cannot lift? Every day. Is there a law or book or course or agreement that says God should/must lift every rock He makes?

atheistandproud:
Eyaaah. If you have no answer. Keep mute like the rest.

Thank you.

Evidently you have no question and do not even want answers. No thanks.

atheistandproud:
The questions are all there. Up there.

Answer them one by one as you comprehend and assimilate.

Pick your best one and stop glorifying your confusion.

CAPSLOCKED:
BUT SEEKERS OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING ARE THE FOOLS IN THIER EYES. TO LIVE AND DIE FOR FOOLERY IS NOT A WAY TO LIVE AT ALL.

Intellectual theft.

atheistandproud:
And you could not provide a simple answer to any one.

Eyaaah.

I can multitask, can you?

No you cannot multitask, i'm talking from experience with your superiors. Pick one question at a time, let me be entertained by you.

Elder0001:
See them!

Like I said earlier,one cannot expect common sense and logic from religious folks.

What have you made with your life since you started worshipping commonsense and logic? Are you now better off or about to end it already?

Maximus69:
Just answer the OP Sir, it's a question not an argument.

Say what you know and allow others to do the same, as simple as that!

i already answered the OP, then i saw your advert.

Elder0001:
You lack wisdom.

Psalm 14 comes to mind

atheistandproud:
As a child I was taught in Bible school as well as by a man, Uncle Chris, a dedicated JW who taught me the Bible thrice every week that God was omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

Omniscient means knowing every thing. To quote a verse, "he that seeth the end from the beginning".

Omnipresent means being everywhere at once. "His spirit moved across the length and breadth of the land searching for one good man".

Anyway according to the same Bible in Job, Satan is also omnipresent as well. Lol.

Then you have omnipotent or all powerful.

These three features are fundamental godlike properties that are only ascribed to the ultimate deity of the Christian pantheon.

Christians have always claimed two conflicting positions.

1. Not knowing the mind of their favourite deity.

2. Knowing what he wants.

Those who have observed very well will tell you that these are interestingly used in varying situations as a cop out from difficult questions and situations.

If YHWH is omniscient and he has a plan and his plan is good, when you pray for something different, you're essentially asking him (hypothetically, that's if he exists) to change his mind. Do you honestly believe as a mere mortal, you know better than the supreme deity of the Christian pantheon so much as to even think his plan is wrong and yours is right? So if you don't know as well as god does, isn't prayer futile?

If your plan and god's are in the same line? Doesn't it make it prayer a pointless effort as god's will is going to be done regardless?

Finally, in the larger picture or on the grand scheme of things, the earth on which we live in is in a backwater solar system on the far side of the galaxy. Do you think that if a supreme galactic overlord exists, a tiny human can change his mind?

God is not perfect, he actually regretted that he had created humans in genesis. Did the all seeing and all knowing dude fail to see the future? That means he's no omniscient then.

Can we imagine now, for example that the lady who was killed in church, that was god's plan for her life from birth because well... mysterious ways blah blah blah?

Don't you think that she believed god loved her too and that bad things are not her portion?

Let me finish with Epicurus...

You asked so many questions all at once, hope you were not crying when asking. This is a symptom of problems in the brain. Try one step at a time so you don't fall off a 13storey.

Elder0001:
You cannot expect common sense and logic from religious folks.

Like your parents, siblings and teachers. Maybe even your bosses. You are the only one that actually has a brain, why not clap for yourself and prepare a noose.

hakeem4:
Well, god cannot be omniscient and omnipresent at the same time. it is logically incoherent. it is like calling someone a married bachelor.

the sooner we tell ourselves the truth that prayers solve nothing the better for us

God is not subject to logic and reasoning, He is in a higher realm. That being said, you are the one sounding incoherent here. What is the definition of Omniscient and omnipresent as presented in the Bible and how do you understand it?

Maximus69:
OP threw a question to everyone, say what you know and leave others to say their own Sir. It's Pharisees that always try to silence others from airing their views not Christians! Act 4:18, 5:28

If you're a competent Bible student {2Timothy 3:17} you will not be intimidated by what others say {2Timothy 2:15 compare to Isaiah 54:17} you'll air your own views and let the truth speak for himself {John 8:32} Jesus is alive! Hebrew 13:8

So say what you know and leave others Sir!

Lol at intimidated. Why do you feel your words intimidate others? Do you try to make your words intimidate others? i know your modus operandi and i already saw your rubbish about being the one and only true denomination out of 41000 groups. Where you get your statistics is the real miracle here. i guess from Asleep as usual. You live in a bubble that's the problem you have.

Maximus69:
This case is complicated already but if you love God, yourself and your neighbour you'll be saved! Mark 12:28-31

To love God requires deep interest in what God wants so you need accurate knowledge about his laws (likes and dislikes) {1John 5:3} then you must love your neighbour as yourself, this means you should try all within your power to help those around you know God's likes and dislikes, that's why you need to have the accurate knowledge about God.

As for Christianity, there are over 2.3 billion people scattered in over 41,000 religions claiming Christians today. Well out of all those 41,000 groups only one belongs to Jesus, so to know what Christianity entails you need to IDENTIFY Jesus' real group out of all these imitations!

Satan knows that without Jesus nobody can be saved {John 14:6} that's why he (Satan) formed so many religions claiming Christians, this is to deceive people who may love to become Jesus' friend after reading the Bible.

So let me assure you that being a Christian involves much more than gathering with religionists and praying in Jesus name, it requires dedication and hard work! Luke 13:24

God bless you!

this fella has come here again to share Asleep magazine. Just watch him.

TheSourcerer:
hahaha omg omg I can't argue with that logic , my wife should not just come telling me that shit lol just saying

One, it's not something that happens twice. Two, you re not worthy of such. Don't even compare yourself to Joseph the godly man. You are a most foolish atheist according to the Bible.

TheSourcerer:
god bless you sir


.. sorry how did the holy spirit impregnate his mother to give birth to his son?

By a miracle duh.

TheSourcerer:
it's fun to mess around with you guys, you're like adorable puppies screaming Satan devil angels and all those crazy shits
... Have you seen any supernatural , be frank I want to know.




.. Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Lol una like random biblical quotes. ..

What's your definition of supernatural? Lemme oblige you

TheSourcerer:
sir my pastor poured me holy water and new name and said I am new and I cannot go to hell again

Eyah, you should have gone to the bible instead to your pastor who is probably an atheist like you.

TheSourcerer:
what is brimstone sir and I thought Jesus has saved us by dying so I don't go to hell fire even if I have commit sin before I thought it is gone all my sin

Don't misthink. Liars are going to he'll.

niceguy555:
Hello everyone. I have been bothered by this thought and would like to be clarified. I have this relative of mine who is a very good man. When I say good I meant that he is charitable, accomodating and trouble less and people like him. But he doesn't go to church because he is not a christain. Rather, he is an idol worshipper. I do know that christainity has a connection to God and his kingdom. Jesus Christ while on earth showed us the essense of establishing relationship with his father (GOD). Now the question, will this my relative go to heaven after he must have lived his life here on earth or he won't make heaven because is a pegan? Share your opinion

There's none good but God. Any man without Jesus is corrupt. He's like a corrupt hard disk with good files inside. The hard drive is corrupt nonetheless no matter how many gigabytes of good and important files it contains. What it needs is an antivirus or formatting, not more good files.

His file will read corrupt at the gates of Heaven, not good or kind.

TheSourcerer:
all these sinners and life careless Atheists z they will definitely burn in hell , I can't wait for god to return and take us home sir

Home of liars is hell unfortunately.

Rev 21:8 KJV But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

TheSourcerer:
.yes sir please I just just became a christain after been a Muslim all my life so please take your time to answer me

Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) is God right ? And also the holy spirit right?
But how come Jesus is God
But Jesus is not the holy spirit



CAPSLOCKED

It's called trinity. That's oversyllabus for you dear Christian wannabe. What you need right now is repentance, be born again.

CAPSLOCKED:
CAN A CHRISTIAN GO TO VALHALLA?

Does a Christian want to go to Valhalla? Heaven is full of joy. You're free to go to Valhalla, in fact go right now. Foolish question.

fyneguy:
Rose shares how God healed her of stage 4 cancer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIY2e3OMmaw

Only if they'd believe. They'd always have excuse.
Over to you unbelievers.

Can church of satan save me or forgive me or do 1 out of 100 of what Jesus does to me? Nonsense

Palehair:
Which education? Formal or informal? Because they are both paramount and it depends on the user and not the system

All education. Being well educated both formally or informally is not a guarantee of anything. That's life.

kingxsamz:
Stop embarrassing yourself bro.
You dey make me laugh.

You embarass yourself every single day by the folly of your position and belief.

hahn:
Atheism is a DISBELIEF is any god or deity. How can a disbelief in something be listed as a belief in the same thing.

Lol. You are yet to get the definition right

Atheism is a religious position. Atheists BELIEVE that there's no God. No need running around semantics.

Palehair:
It depends on the education you are referring to. If people's primary reason why they wanna be educated is to make money, then I'm sorry for them.
The primary reason for education is to be enlightened, all other things are secondary. Hence the saying, let the study pass through you and not you to pass through the study.

It doesn't negate the FACT that education guarantees nothing.

CAPSLOCKED:
SEE WHO'S TALKING ABOUT BITTER, AND GOD.
MADAM YOU BETTER DROP THIS ARMOUR OF A ONE WOMAN SOLDIER AND LIVE THE BEST OF YOUR LIFE. E-INDEPENDENT FEMINISM WAR MISTRESS WON'T PAY OFF IN THE LONG RUN.
I GUESS WE ALL LOG OUT AT THE END OF THE DAY TO FACE REAL LIFE AND ALL IT'S HARD BITTER LESSONS.

It's funny you talk about God, like some people are undeserving to have or mention Him. May you be alright last last.