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PRE4:
Really?Thats faith bro.That's how it work.
It might sound stupid but its the best option ever.

i really hope for him it is faith, but faith in/what really? Smells like laziness all over. Anyway what do we know? Let me not "be pessimistic".

HedwigesMaduro:
How ready was Gideon when God called him for His use?

As ready as a MIGHTY MAN OF VALOUR. Except you are suggesting that God was lying.

GRIMMJOE:
Yes, but you can't, the truth is bitter and I'm going to force it down your throat.

It seems you have smoked the wrong weed yet again.

HedwigesMaduro:
God calls achievers, or make achievers of those He calls?

My definition is there. Someone who can complete a goal. Someone who succeeds at something, not a drop out or one who gives up. Someone with some enough tenacity to finish something. David, Daniel, Moses, all finished their trainings. That is what i mean by achieving. Not referring to great feats.

GRIMMJOE:
Then why are you arguing if I'm not right.

You mean i should ignore you as a proof that you are wrong?

odinson1:
The bubonic Plague,

The Black death plague,

The spanish flu,

The Holocaust

world war 1

world war 2

The Hiroshima bomb explosion

should i continue

None of these is worse than what is happening now. Perhaps more bloody but not worse. This current one is global and with no end in sight unfortunately. This one brought the whole world to its knees.

GRIMMJOE:
Tell that to the remaining Gods he doesn't believes in.

He believes there are gods, you don't. Stop looking desperate for fellowship in folly.

Kobojunkie:
His work is what you are here complaining about. The man decided to put work into his faith by dropping out to heed the call.
God calls achievers? I think you have the wrong God? What was Moses' achievement when God called him? Name the achievements of people like David, Jeremiah, Jonah, John, Andrew, Peter, James, Philip when God called them?
When God calls a man/woman, God expects that man/woman to abandon everything, including dead father, mother, family, children, etc. for Him. Jesus Christ made it clear that anyone who does not hate father/mother/wife/sister/sons/daughters etc. more than Him is not worthy of Him.
For a rational thinker, what you suggest makes sense, but when dealing with God, while it makes sense to think logically and rationally about Truth, what God commands on the other hand does not always compute... I said more times than not, one shouldn't expect it to compute.

This is my last post to you on this. From my last interaction with you, you proved yourself shameless to a fault so i would waste no further space arguing with you.

Dropping out is giving up, the easy way out. That is not putting work to faith. Like he stated, he dropped out because his father died.
i said "God calls achievers, not drop outs." i mentioned it in the same breath and sentence. It means achievement by carrying out successfully. Not necessarily what you are probably expecting like a genius. Someone that is tested, someone that is busy, someone that is ready. Not an indolent person or someone who is failing.David, Jeremiah, Jonah, John, Andrew, Peter, James, Philip were ready when God called/used them. David had excelled as a shepherd, it is surprising that you list him. Jeremiah was a priest capable of fending for himself, Jonah was a prophet, the disciples were experienced fishermen with jobs and family. None of them were riffraff or nuisance to the society, none of them were dependants. Forsaking all is not the same as giving up. The OP described someone giving up, whose decision was fueled by the death of his father. Let him complete his medical school, then forsake the goodies to follow God IF God wants it so.

CAPSLOCKED:
I'VE LIVED CLOSE TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST HOSPITAL IN THIS CITY FOR 15 YEARS. FROM MY DAYS AS A TODDLER I'VE BEEN A FREQUENT USER OF HOSPITALS MYSELF AND NOW I HAVE BUSINESSES RUNNING WITH SOME OF THEM IN TOWN, AND IT'S NEVER A PLEASURE TO BE THERE. I USED TO WANT THIS PERFECT PERSON TO EXIST AS CHRISTIANS PAINT HIM TO BE, JUST SO HE CAN TAKE SOME OF THESE PAINS AWAY. FROM WHAT MY OWN EYES SEE EVERYDAY HUNDREDS GO THROUGH VERY TERRIBLE SITUATIONS. SHOULD I TALK ABOUT THE BURN VICTIMS? OR THE EMERGENCY SIRENS I HEAR AT LEAST 5 TIMES DAILY? OR THE CHILDREN'S WARD?. BUT THE PERFECT LOVING GOD CONTINUES TO LOOK ON WITH APATHY.
A LONG TIME AGO I LEARNED NOT TO WASTE MY TIME WITH DELUSIONS AND ACCEPT LIFE HOW I SEE IT. IF THERE'S A GOD IT CLEARLY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT US, SO WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT IT?

Pro 15:3 KJV The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

Kobojunkie:
But he was called by God and from what we know, God will give him the skills he needs for the Job he wants him for.
Where is the faith in suggesting the boy first get a degree in his pocket in case God fails him?

Faith without works is dead. Like i have shown, the persons God really used were people discipline and intelligent enough to finish. God is not inconsistent. He calls achievers, not drop outs. It's more consistent to believe that God called him as a doctor medical than the one he is saying.
God is not failing him, he's already failing himself, his dead father, his family and God. There's nothing important he is doing now that he cannot do better as a qualified doctor.

Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ called His disciples, they essentially had to "drop out" of their lives to go with Him.
Paul "dropped out" as well from his chosen career path in order to go where Jesus Christ wanted Him to go as well.
That is not to say that all people who "drop out" of their chosen paths in life do so for the glory of Jesus Christ, but that pattern is a known one and used by almost every preacher of God in some way to justify their "walk".

Dropping a career in quote is not the same as stopping school. A five year medical student is half baked. He knows nothing, has no skill in life,cannot make one naira on his own. This is not the same as established family men who had trainings that became useful for God's purpose. Moses, Daniel, Paul, Matthew were that useful because they were trained. Same goes for the likes of Adeboye, Kumuyi and the preachers you speak of.

GRIMMJOE:
But you're only insulting your self na, as 4,300 religion equally believes you're a fool.

He believes there is God, duh.

What is this? Did God make Moses, Daniel, Luke, Paul and co drop outs to use them. Kumuyi, Adeboye were called too but they did not have to drop out. Anyway as the write up said, it was the father's death not God that stopped the schooling.

CAPSLOCKED:

Nights like this when I’m deep in thoughts, I remember Bro Nleme, a man who I knew as a lil boy, who gave me a few things about the faith I profess

However, I would say the faith failed him. Bro Nleme and his beautiful wife didn’t have kids. Oh they prayed, so did we all

Prophecies about their child birth abound like covid 19 infected Wuhan, but like Nigeria’s progress, was never forth coming.

Even though I’d love to say they had kids of their own, they didn’t. They ended up adopting a girl after almost 20 years

After all these years, I lost touch, only to be told by my mother that his only daughter had died after a lengthy battle with an illness, which like a demanding girlfriend, ruined his finances

Shortly after, through my ever willing grapevine, I was updated that Bro Nleme had died, devastated by the despair in losing his only child.

So when people say God never fails, sometimes I think of people like Bro Nleme and ask myself, if God didn’t fail him? If he had to choose, would he have chosen to die like that?

But like all mortals, we cannot question the immortal. We can only try to make sense of it, so we say God knows best

So when people say “everybody go dey alright las las”, I always smile. Nothing is farther from the truth than that. Some will die smiling, some with their eyes open, some with tears rolling their cheeks.

When people give testimonies of how they’re the lone survivor of ghastly accidents, I ask myself about those who died

Because if you judge God’s faithfulness by surviving the accident, it certainly means he failed those who died whilst serving him ardently

Maybe it just makes me a sadist, and like the rest of the congregation, I should focus on the one who survived.
RIP Bro Nleme, I hope we meet at his feet.



PENNED BY A GOOD FRIEND WHO HAS TOLD ME THAT DESPITE ALL THE JARGONS HE'S WILLING TO DISCARD LOGIC AND JUST BELIEVE BECAUSE OF "PERSONAL EXPERIENCES". I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW THESE PEOPLE DO THIS. HOW THEY LOOK AT WHITE AND HAVE TO LIE TO THEMSELVES THAT IT'S BLACK.

That is someone that has had personal experience of God. It is a reality. He does not fully understand or even agree with God. But he would be lying to himself to deny the existence of God. This is unlike many of you that claim former Christian because your name is Isaac, Samuel and Paul. Rubbish. That is not Christianity.
But what will it profit a man if he gained the whole world, and lose his own soul? What will a man give in exchange for his soul? Children, house, certificate, position, articles? Nothing. Be wise.

CAPSLOCKED:
I'VE LIVED CLOSE TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST HOSPITAL IN THIS CITY FOR 15 YEARS. FROM MY DAYS AS A TODDLER I'VE BEEN A FREQUENT USER OF HOSPITALS MYSELF AND NOW I HAVE BUSINESSES RUNNING WITH SOME OF THEM IN TOWN, AND IT'S NEVER A PLEASURE TO BE THERE. I USED TO WANT THIS PERFECT PERSON TO EXIST AS CHRISTIANS PAINT HIM TO BE, JUST SO HE CAN TAKE SOME OF THESE PAINS AWAY. FROM WHAT MY OWN EYES SEE EVERYDAY HUNDREDS GO THROUGH VERY TERRIBLE SITUATIONS. SHOULD I TALK ABOUT THE BURN VICTIMS? OR THE EMERGENCY SIRENS I HEAR AT LEAST 5 TIMES DAILY? OR THE CHILDREN'S WARD?. BUT THE PERFECT LOVING GOD CONTINUES TO LOOK ON WITH APATHY.
A LONG TIME AGO I LEARNED NOT TO WASTE MY TIME WITH DELUSIONS AND ACCEPT LIFE HOW I SEE IT. IF THERE'S A GOD IT CLEARLY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT US, SO WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT IT?

God loves you. The question of why suffering will continue to pop in until Jesus comes. The real suffering is in hell, eternal.

kingxsamz:
Oga, calm down.
Last days ko...
Go through history, worse have happened.

E.g

CAPSLOCKED:
FACT IS WE LEARNED MOST OF THESE FROM EUROPEANS. HANGING THIEVES, BURNING WITCHES, FIRING SQUAD?
WE WERE ENJOYING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF "MORALITY" UNTIL RELIGION AND IT'S LAWS CAME IN.

They also taught you how to kill twins and sacrifice virgins to idols. Keep deceiving yourself. ALL have sinned. There is NONE good, no not one.

Xavfra:
You serve he isn't God you don't serve he isn't God.....


You've not answered my question

They are too local. Even Magu is more popular than them.

kingxsamz:
Lol, shebi your god is omniscient na.
Didn't he know that majority of his creation would end up in hell with the devil he created?
If he knew, then it was his plan all along na.
Clown.
And according to your bible, if you commit any little sin and rapture comes, or you die, you'll end up in hell. If rapture comes now, do you think you'll make this imaginary heaven?
You'll still end up in hell with the atheists you're calling childish.
Unless you'll be repenting and giving your life to Christ every 30 minutes.
clown.

What is wrong with repenting every 30 minutes to avoid hell? You think hell is a joke. Those who know would probably repent every minute or keep themselves from sin. Some people are washing hands every 10minutes, sanitizing everywhere and everything sanitizable because of Covid 19. But you think it is not worth it to repent and escape hell? May ignorance not kill you.

kingxsamz:
Lol, take away the doctrines of hell from Christianity, and watch how that clown will be shining his teeth in happiness.
They are only scared of the bogey man, their god, because they don't want him to punish them.
He does not really love his religion, he's just scared.

This is the fallacy of hasty generalisation. By the way, there is nothing wrong with being afraid of consequences. But it is ignorance and lack of exposure to generalise that people do things for the same reason. For instance, people go to work everyday for years. Some do it out of fear of the consequences. They know that if they do not go, they may be sacked or may not have enough for their needs. They take a lot of rubbish at work from superiors and colleagues, some age mates of their children, because they know if they don't na hunger. On the other hand, there are people who work for other reasons. Other things motivate and drive them to keep working. In summary, there is nothing wrong with being scared, you should be sensible enough to be scared of being electrocuted. Also not everyone is scared.

kingxsamz:
People are becoming wiser daily. Hundred years from now, religion would be practiced by the minority. %50 of Nigerians won't practice religion.
Sanity would begin to be restored. Can't say much about those Islamic states though. Those ones are doomed forever.

People have said worse than these for centuries. Asides that Jesus Himself mentioned that the love of many will wax cold, and that evil men will wax worse and worse. All your negative hopes and prophecies continue firing blanks. As 30 people become atheists 300 become religious either by being born into a religious setting or being converted. Billions all over the world remain religious for different reasons including world leaders, whether developed nation or undeveloped.

kingxsamz:
But wait first.
Which one sounds more logical...
Evolution, or a god creating a human with the ribs of a man who was created from dust?

Creationism is not logic, it is the miraculous. Evolution which is supposed to be logical is the most illogical thought ever produced by man.

1Sharon:
Is God al knowing?

Is God able to do everything?

BackllGodNaija:
Judging by your flesh-inspired comments, It's obvious you're not viewed as a threat to the works of darkness, so don't expect to be targeted because the enemy can hardly target those on his side or those who don't pose any threat to his works. It's only the canal-minded that can deduce such vain meanings from the dream, but those who know better would tell you that it was a victorious feat because I overcame the temptation of the devil just as Jesus did. If it was Jesus, you would also ask Him what He thinking that He was being molested and tempted...and that He should be careful...for someone who overcame all the devil's temptations which was no mean feat which would be utterly foolish and ignorant. I said before that you're the one that ought to be careful, and i was right because when you're not being targeted by the devil, it's obviously because you're on the devil's side and serving his purpose as your comment on this thread shows. And you're bound to end up on the devil's side at the end if you don't repent. As you can see (of course you can't), I am an overcomer but you're obviously not.

Na me you write all these story for? It's okay, sorry Take care lol, make i no write wetin fit make me chop transferred aggression slap for hia. ciao

1Sharon:
Yh, stay there and keep playing dumb.

Lol, so you cannot answer question but you can ask ba? Don't worry, you will hear when WAEC is employing next. You will be paid to set questions ehn, just DM me then.

BackllGodNaija:
You should follow your advice because from your flesh-inspired comment, it's obvious that you're the one careless one here.

It's okay oh. Maybe i'm the one being molested by internet trolls in the dream.

1Sharon:
What do you mean? Isn't God all-knowing?

You tell me, how do you know or why do you think so?

1Sharon:
But God saw his future right?

i would not know, do you think so?

So the Samaritan woman at the well is right here? This one seems like a fake copy though.

CAPSLOCKED:
NOT BECAUSE IT'S A SIN. VERY GOOD.

SO HOW IS WATCHING PEOPLE HAVE SEX BAD BUT WATCHING PEOPLE PLAY FOOTBALL ISN'T?
HOW IS PORNØGRAPHY BAD FOR MY LIFE BUT NOLLYWOOD ISN'T FOR YOURS?

Do you watch your family members have sex? Simple love your neighbour as yourself.

CAPSLOCKED:
AN ENEMY OF GOD, CREATED BY GOD HIMSELF JUST SO HE CAN HAVE SOMEONE TO FIGHT WITH AND COMPETE AGAINST.

The devil was not created as a devil you remember?