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TheSourcerer:
most 'ethics ' and 'norms' we met here are usually to profit the elderly rich and powerful

Perhaps so, but should they be discarded or discouraged?

The confused witnesses. I wonder what they witnessed, kingdom hall tales.

Plead:
Religion is the biggest scam of all time.

Perhaps education is a bigger one, it guarantees nothing despite all the money, efforts and time gulped.

CAPSLOCKED:
THERE ARE NO RELIGIOUS PEOPLE CONTESTING THIS THREAD BECAUSE "TRUTH" IS TRUTH, AND CAN NEVER BE CONTESTED.

Counterfeits exist because there is an original. When are you guys ever going to be thinkers instead of moaners?

LordReed:
your thoughts are influenced by your food intake

Yawn. We know that since na. Thanks for sharing. Any serious bible student knows this since BC sha.

LordReed:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41538-017-0008-y

Na wa oh. This is rather long na. Are you fighting or keeping malice with me? Why do you think we are told to fast?

LordReed:
Yes, your thoughts are influenced by your food intake if you didn't know. Why do you think you are told to fast?

Hmmm, we about to discover here. Oya tell me, why?

AzurV:
So i once became a Spiritualist/Atheist. Basically i was having an Existential crisis and got tired of anything christian. Even picked up philosophy. It was in this said process that i cracked open a book that really helped me out

Mere Christianity by C.S.Lewis

Basically he a former Atheist attempted and succeeded at least imo to show that there is a God and that he is the Christian God. So for all those wondering, as well as all Atheists. I dare you to read this book.

Ciao

Good book.

Solutionchima:
you have not believed Jesus enough/you have not encountered the raw power of God

Which one is raw power, hope it doesn't involve being obstructed, attacked and brutalized by the Pastors and some members of the church? That's what we're hearing from Akwa Ibom state Christ embassy church. Let's be guided please.

Candoit:
The wisdom of men is foolishness unto God. Be a true child of God and see your faith work for you. That same Jesus you quoted said, "if only you have faith as little as a muster seed, you shall say to this mountian, be moved and it shall move".

Don't be little your God and exalt any disease or infection . What you fear, you cannot conquer.

You're giving motivational speech, well done oh. i directed you to learn from Jesus. Is the wisdom of Jesus not God's wisdom again. All these pastor boys them, na wa. You think Jesus didn't have faith when He asked the disciples to flee from impending death and disaster? It's not everything that is gra gra, get wisdom. Na bible talk am.

effectz123:
And you want him to lock down his church. If he plays into your hands, you'll not be convinced. Go ahead and do what you want.

i don't recall wanting or asking him to lock down his church.

SeanBeezy:
Nah bro, I'd rather advice all Christians to study God's words meticulously for a better understanding and also believe whole heartedly without fear or doubts, then they're good to go. That's after you've accepted Christ as your Lord and personal saviour first! It follows that sequence

It's not going to happen. The unity of faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, a perfect man, the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ is not going to happen until Christ comes. If you know that we're not even close to it, then it's not wise to order people to do things they cannot do. Jesus had commonsense to gauge His disciples faith as little faith at a time. Living in denial is not faith, it's deceit.

What's he teaching them? Make money anyhow I guess.

effectz123:
And how many People did Jesus go to heal in the hospital.

i thought you wanted to do greater works? Did Jesus sit in the studio waiting for patients to come to Him? He went out where the sinners and sick were. He went about doing good and healing all. His network was not only inside church sir. He said "I will come and heal him".

effectz123:
Nobody is tempting. And I don't know why Christians are always using the term test, tempt when it comes to covid 19. The words he said about covid is God's truth. You might not be living in that reality but aspire to grow to that level. Don't start contradicting what the word of God says because you want to be correct at all times.

He should actually be in isolation centres casting out devils and laying hands on emergency patients in their dozens in an atmosphere for miracles.
It is very convenient to sit in the church studio and tell poor listeners forced to go out of lockdown to go and do things beyond their level. It is wickedness and will only bring tears and ridicule, unbelief and backsliding.

Candoit:
Death could not hold Jesus captive.
Who then is coronavirus?

For God has exalted Jesus above every other name. That at the mention of Jesus Christ every knee must bow.

i like your faith, but remember faith without work is dead faith. Talk is cheap, how many corona patients have you mingled with? Let's not tempt you though.

Learn from Jesus. Where there are steps/stairs, use them. Don't jump down claiming you cannot dash your feet against stone.

Wisdom is the proper application of knowledge. What you know and apply about the virus should be made profitable to direct you. EXCEPT you have rhema from God, don't die before your time.

SeanBeezy:
Exactly what I said initially. It only takes one who deeply knows the word of God to exercise such faith.

Good. So all Christians should not be misled into touching infection. You can still pray for people without touching them by the way.

petra1:
When a serpent bit paul he only shook it into the fire. Jesus said greater works shall we do. I'm not aware jesus will say a disease is contagious he wont pray. WhT have we turned christianity to

Unfortunately the reality is that we cannot all be Paul in this sense. Even Paul asked a rhetorical question whose answer is capital NO.

1Cor12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 

We are not all workers of miracles or apostles. It is wrong to guilt trip and even mislead many to do what they cannot. By the way, the serpent fastened on Paul's hand, not bit him, though it's besides the point.

You turn Christianity into a laughing stock and ridicule by tempting people into infection. Touching covid 19 patients likely result in infection. That is a normal known fact. Goading normal christians to do the abnormal is tantamount to tempting God. 90% of those who follow that instruction will see the repercussions. You don't need the gift of prophecy to know that.

petra1:
I agree with you



Jesus gave a mandate .

Luke 10:19
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

We both know that the disciples didn't go about literally treading on serpent and scorpions. If anyone breaks an hedge, the serpent will bite him.
Jesus Himself was never power drunk. He had power but had to depend on God not on power or mandate. It is foolish to do things simply because you have power to.

Jesus had power to call angels. He had power to turn stones to bread. But he also exercised wisdom. He was not a powerful bull in a China shop.

SeanBeezy:
As if Christ was born in a hospital or Joseph sought after Mary's genotype before marrying her. Come on bro, how many times has God shown his supremacy over science that you still don't believe?
Sarah gave birth at old age, Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days, even here on nairaland, there was a news about a non compatible couple genotypically who got married and gave birth to healthy kids!
Baba things happen, God is supreme!

God is Supreme and Wonderful, yes. i believe in and experience the miraculous. The point is that everybody does not have faith. The whole world cannot live on one person.

What i have faith for, you may not have faith for. And vice versa. So don't tell everyone to do things they cannot do.

David's faith didn't reach raising dead children, Elijah's faith did. The two of them are challenges to us all, but we don't live by them. It is to every man according to his faith.
You don't cause people to sin(whatever is not of faith is sin) by your personal strength. Paul was rugged, but Timothy was not. Paul told him to take other things for his sickness.

Rolly22:
Only a Foolish African says Christ is his Creator, my ancestors have been here before The Bible so don't come at me with that crap.

Oh so you think the Bible formed Christ? You must think the map was here before the earth then.

Happycharles:
Great examples of men of faith.

The gift of faith is one of the gifts of the Spirit. Just like Rhema, it does not work every time or for every person. It is specific and time bound.
You don't go and walk on the river claiming Jesus told Peter to, you will drown and cause scoffers to make a mockery of the faith. Jesus said it to Peter and for just that period. Peter didn't eternally continue walking on water.

You don't go and pour water into wine jars or oil into pots because "It is scriptural". Those are specifics, Rhema.

While it is possible for God to use someone to demonstrate His glory by touching and healing the sick. It is not a calling of every Christian every time. There is time for everything including this.

SeanBeezy:
In the bible days, leprosy was considered one of the worst diseases, it was even contagious, but Christ LAID HANDS on those lepers and they were healed. His apostles too did similar miracles in Jesus' name. What am I trying to say?
Anyone who really is a child of God and has the understanding of the word of God in him/her attains a different level of grace. It's just simple
Talking about spirituality and reality, if reality was to be considered, Christ's disciples wouldn't even have performed miracles because in your context, it's impossible

Don't be ridiculous please. There's a reason Christians go to the hospital to give birth, do blood tests and other tests before marriage etc. Faith is not a substitute for commonsense. God gives the two. Wisdom is profitable to direct.

Pastor Chris again? Jo, don't you people pray for your pastor or what?

Rolly22:
Only a Foolish African says Christ is his Creator, my ancestors have been here before The Bible so don't come at me with that crap.

Christ created your ancestors.

Rolly22:
Christ can't be my creator please!

You don't know anything.

Rolly22:
The way you people always try to remove Christ from religion is always funny, is this same Christ not a product of religion??

Lol, Christ is the Creator of Rolly22 not a product of anything.

Lol, it seems this pandemic got more folks to engage the folly of the unbelievers. Thanks be to God for this. Before, you'd have seen them having a field day and running riot like it helps their masturbation. Hell destined brats feeling smart are meeting people who have their time, lol.

Another clothed pig goes naked. ~Bible

kingxsamz:
You've said nothing actually.
When you're ready to talk, quote me.

When you are ready to listen, go back and meditate on what has been said till you strike gold.

kingxsamz:
Make your point known.

You must have missed the point as usual. Point already made.

Xmuslim:
I know your type. No need to answer you.

You would claim human cannot know what is good and only your religion book can determine it, even though there are many atrocities in that your book

Lol, you would make a good false prophet.