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TonyeBarcanista:
The same man wey open the gate of hell for APC yet them win election.
All these apostates

This is a lie, stop mixing propaganda with commonsense.

Lennycool:
It does wow.
Find a local hospital and heal the amputees.
I'll be waiting to give God the glory

I'm not looking for healed amputees, you are the one with the eternal obsession.

HardMirror:
Your analogy is off. Going to work is a good thing. So someone coming late to work is only wrong by being late. Killing is not comparable to going to work. It is like you saying moses killed early and shekau is killing late. Both remain murders.

One is divine judgement, the other is senseless murder.

CHARLOE:
Its obvious u can't reason, y I advised u to retrieve ur brain Where u dumped it

Lol, simply refute what was said or keep quiet.

hahn:
How do you it is a "him"? Have you seen it before?

Ogbeni, stay focused on what we discussed. I was hoping you were going to say something meaningful regarding the verses I sent and as usual you did not disappoint

He says several times that He is Him, duh. i don't discuss in an environment of folly and disregard for others.

hahn:
But Jehovah commanded the killings of people who didn't serve it na

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Jehovah is an Him. Atheism is not an excuse for folly or insensitivity.If you lack morals, you should not lack decorum in discussing with others.

dalaman:
So what Moses did was right then but wrong now? Is that what you are saying?

Yes, that's what God said in the Bible.

Lennycool:
This is weak.
I've already stated that if this was the case, then prayer would have the power to heal amputees instantly since humans can't cure it.
But it doesn't.

It does, are you an amputee?

hahn:
He has to read the bible to know that

Moses and co didn't go around killing everyone who is not a believer. They lived with Egyptians, Moabites, Philistines, Babylonians etc and only fought when provoked which was the norm, not due to religious differences.

dalaman:
They did. They went around killing disbelievers because their God told them to take their lands according to the story.

They didn't, you probably didn't read the Bible.

CHARLOE:
Are u this dumb? If d bible is ur proof then d quoran is muhameds n shekaus proof! Plz, do yourself a favour, go n retrieve ur brain from those u gave it to as a sacrifice/seed. Cant think, no wonder d bible call u sheep, a dumb animal, even a dog can herd a 100 sheep

Jesus can heal your frustrations.

dalaman:
So Allah is the judge. Because Allah is God.

When a christian says "God", you know he's referring to Jehovah. Stop being childish and mischievous.
Also timing is very important.If you come to work on time, it's fine and can even earn you commendation. If you come to work 3hrs late, it is not fine. Same action, but can earn you a query or worse. If you come after closing hours, you are suspect. If even a bishop or priest or pastor does what Moses did now, even God will condemn him. How hard is that to see? Ecclesiastes 3:1

dalaman:
Hi, long time. I dey, why I go run away? Same God or not is not the issue. The question is why condem one group for doing what their God told them but refuse to condem another group for doing the same thing which the previous group did on account of their God?

Moses did the same thing Shekau is doing all on claim of divine injunction. Why condem Shekau and hail Moses? After all both of them claimed divine injunction.

It's not the same thing, that's why. Moses and co didn't go around killing everyone who is not a believer. And stop mimicking me, show some originality.

Lennycool:
OK then explain what you meant by

It simply means that He is an efficient and excellent God. He didn't create us with having to run to Him for everything, He gave us some self reliance and exploring. Imagine if your kids called you to help with everything, no independence whatsoever. Where is the dominion, why the education, wisdom, resources and knowledge and provision if you are to make sure to run along to demand what you can do?

The foolishness of God is still wiser than the wisdom of men.

AntiWailer:
I said it.
That it was an old message.
All these bloggers should be careful.
You will get hits, paper will sell and people will die.
Then u know u just made blood money.

Hehehehe, i said same too, hohohohoho.

i support Fayose on this, if the money is budgeted for, it should be paid. Change

babadee1:
If you think only Boko Haram is doing all the killings then you have allowed yourself to be deceived. Even people who call themselves Christians have been killing too and this should not be so. Persecution of Christians did not start today, it started from the very beginning of the faith. If Christians back then decided to fight and kill back against their enemies then the faith would not have endured till today. I am speaking purely from a spiritual perspective now. It is very wrong to ask Christians to kill anybody for any reason at all. God will punish anybody who teaches such a thing, whether he is a bishop or not doesn't matter.

Terrorists are criminals and condemned by the government. Peter was persecuted for his faith, believing in God, preaching. The authorities were against him/it. Terrorists kill anybody killable, that's not persecution but madness. You chain mad people, not turn the other cheek. So if police want to get information from you about a criminal, you will not cooperate but tell them to forgive him? Don't let us get it twisted. Boko haram need iron hand. You can go and preach to them or allow them to be caught. But folding hands and watching them do the work of satan is not intelligent or Christian.

@Tonyebarcanista
i agree with Oyedepo on this. From what i see, the statements were made about 2years ago. Evidently the audience didn't blaze with the statements like uneducated northern muslims would have done. It's a wake up call, self defense is welcome against lawlessness. He didn't ask his audience to go about killing boko haram but that if they come. You either run or you defend. You can't keep slaying people as chickens for nothing. Holiness is the gateway to Heaven, not martyrdom. It is the person wearing the shoe that knows where it pinches.

KingEbukasBlog:
Hehehe ...
MrPresident1 ,
Image123 go hear am

Lol, i wonder if he'll be humble on January 21st.

dalaman:
Allah is the judge and BH are carrying out his injunctions. Why then are you complaining?

That's a foolish question as you already know that God is Judge, asking the reason of complaint should be rhetorical at best.

dalaman:
The proof is also clear in the Koran. Allah in the Koran has condemned all the disbelievers. It's also insane to accuse a legal executioner of hypocrisy for lawfully killing a criminal.

Hey, long time, hope you don't run away oh. You're shifting goals. The prior argument was that boko and the Bible are the same and it's hypocrisy for Christians to condemn them. i don't recall doubting or affirming the validity of the koran on this thread. i have consistently said that they are not the same but from a different god or thing. So welcome, i was already there.

Lennycool:

So God has provided all we need to do of ourselves?
But you're the one shouting about someone that got healed of aids, did God provid him with the knowledge to create an AIDS healing drug that he has refused to share with the world.
Did Jesus heal using advanced medical techniques still unknown to science?
When he walked on water, was he using anti gravity slippers he built from scratch.

Apologist

i didn't say anything about someone that got healed of AIDS, don't be mischievous.

Lennycool:
Terms of the experiment was when you were injured. I did not say you would cause it yourself

Okay.

randomperson:
So if your hand got cut off and u were in the Sahara desert, u won't be worried coz u will be sure god will heal u?

That's an impossible IF but yes, i won't be worried. Happy?

randomperson:
But god is all powerful... He doesn't need medical assistance does he?? So why go to the hospital when u can pray?

He doesn't, you do duh. You probably bathe your 21yr old son since you can. Stop being ludicrous.

CHARLOE:
What's ur proof? A Muslim will say muhamed did n moses didn't! Only u can set yourself free from this grand delusion!

The proof is clear in the Bible, it is not the same God. The inconsistency is very clear. The Bible condemns the acts of boko haram and their cohorts. It's insane to accuse a legal executioner of hypocrisy for lawfully killing a criminal.

randomperson:
They did equally barbaric acts, they both claimed they were under orders from god... On what's basis are u believing one and disbelieving the other? Your bias?

There's nothing cruel or inhumane about divine judgement.
Proverbs 28:5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Like I've shown several times, punishment from and by the Judge is not on the same level with personal and emotional vendetta.

Lennycool:

Don't you have faith he'll heal you.
Why would God need the help of medical practitioners

Christianity is funny

Your understanding is what is funny, always read the terms of an agreement carefully before signing instead of ridiculous gloating in assumption. God feeds you but you need to get into the kitchen, that's how He made it work. He's provided all the wisdom, resources and science so that we are not zombies or doltheads looking for who to wipe off mucus from our mouths in the name of love. You probably looking for the wrong god. God has no issues neither is His workings mutually exclusive to commonsense and primary healthcare.

Lennycool:
You cannot provide evidence that the man was ever healed. All you have are anecdotes of anecdotes.

What man, there's was no man. What happened to your reading?

Lennycool:
I said next time you had an injury. BY ACCIDENT. Did you even read the OP?

Your exact words were that i "Should try the experiment".

Hmmmm, the Bishop himself. Carry on. Feeblemindedness is not a gift of the Spirit, forgiveness is.

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