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randomperson:
Wow!! A lot of crap but one question, two actually.
- what is the biblical reference that the earth used to be perfect?
- and tsunamis and hurricanes are evil. But necessary. Tell me, who made them necessary?

Woah, so i finally got the time kinda.
To your naive question, the whole of the creation account in Genesis 1 and 2 tell us that everything was good. That is like primary 2 class bible knowledge. i do not know where your second question is coming from, you seem to be addressing the wrong person or simply being fallacious as is the norm with atheists.

Naijalabel:
The Former Nigerian President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan and Former Finance Minister Ngozi Okonjo Iweala took time out to felicitate with the newly Appointed Deputy UN Secretary general Amina Mohammed.
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"My hearty congratulations to Amina Mohammed who has been appointed Deputy Under Secretary General of the United Nations. This is a thing of joy to me and certainly a proud day for Nigeria. Knowing her antecedents, it is a given that she will excel in this role. Congratulations once again". GEJ.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1342533535797017&id=105479482835768

Hearty congratulations to our sister, Amina Mohammed, on her UN appointment. Let me also seize this opportunity to congratulate our sister, Sandie Okoro, on her recent appointment to the World Bank.

Let's keep enhancing Nigeria's international image. Every bit helps.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1341405339243060&id=204329982950607


See reactions from Nigerians:

Help me tell former president GEJ that the woman is NOT Deputy Under Secretary General of the United Nations. She is Deputy Secretary General of the United Nations. There's a world of difference there.

i saw Nnamdi Kanu screaming frustratedly in court yesterday, one could only pity him. i hope young people learn not to be like him. He will deservedly spend the New Year in prison.

Would the president fill the vacuum that will be created by her movement. That minister that died comes to mind, he's yet to be replaced.

All these achievements are either futuristic or simple time and chance, nothing exceptional.

If the coach has eye problem, the sensible thing is for him to see the optician or pray about it, not to change jersey. If his eye problem deteriorate, he might soon suggest that they play naked.

4everGod:
[b]Hello folks a glorious day to you all.

I decided to share this video as an encouragement to someone who needs something in their life and has come to Jesus for Help! As Jesus said, cast all your cares upon Him for He cares for you.

This is a video of an infant who has been unable to walk even after getting to the age of walking. The little girl could not even sit unaided and crawling was an impossibility.

The mother brought her for deliverance and healing and the Pastor prayed for her and from her being unable to sit on her own without aid or support she began trying to crawl even as the prayers continued from the Pastor and after a little while the little girl gets up...staggers and falls....

She gets up again...staggers and falls..... Then to the shock of everyone she stands up straight and runs to embrace her mother as the church bursts out in rejoicing.


ANALYSIS: I do know that there will always be skeptics who would call this video a fake and would want to claim it was staged but looking at the age of this little girl who got healed, how could she be acting it out? If you say they were following a script...How was the little girl able to interpret the script so perfectly to match the purpose why they were praying for her and the timeliness of her reactions.

Was the little girl pretending to be unable to sit without support or aid? Was she deliberately trying to crawl and repeatedly falling on her face if she could walk originally?

I would like everyone to watch this video and be blessed by it and encouraged that JESUS IS LORD! FOR I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST FOR IT IS THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION![/b]




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBMVBeWPo5s

cc kingebukanaija, kingebukasblog, jonBellion, Seun, anas09, felixomor, Promise10, hahn, Eyehategod, akintom, randomperson,

Wow, glory be to God. It's unfortunate one so called thinker could not think for himself but had to call on hardmirror for assistance. That one too rambled foolishly about adrenaline and placebo. I am usually of the opinion that these fellows have more faith than we believers. It takes a lot of misplaced and foolish faith to be what they profess.

KingEbukasBlog:
Well done Image123

Yes sir.

Image123:
Marvel not that i say unto YOU, YOU MUST be born again. Yes, you that is reading.

At the end of it all, these words of our Lord Jesus hold true. People continue to marvel but the fact is, you know na, you MUST be born again.

Bump

randomperson:
Yes I am. No I do not. Can u answer those two questions now?

i would later when i have access and time to a computer.

hahn:
Bro, you are as apathetic as your god.
Good night

Lol, so I am godly fa. Hahn, you are running away oh, that's not nice na.

randomperson:
Wow!! A lot of crap but one question, two actually.
- what is the biblical reference that the earth used to be perfect?
- and tsunamis and hurricanes are evil. But necessary. Tell me, who made them necessary?

Are you foladara777?
Do you smoke weed?

MuttleyLaff:
@Anas09
I first thought the reason we werent seeing your rear lights was because you were at Ota involved with "He ... that is to be sent" 2016
I saw what you posted above and have a screen grab of it
but its seems the content got you landed back,
afresh in the same unpleasant and embarrassing situation again, to get cooled off

I know you're Ms No Nonsense aka Ms Take No Prisoners
I think that's your spirit,
as you, at times, have an impetuous passion,
it especially comes out when you dont suffer fools gladly
BUT you need to be careful over how you type, so your typing doesnt come to bite you back
especially when sometimes like that ocassion, you didnt really mean what you typed,
as it was a spur of the moment and not a serious I-mean-it-that-way typed comment

What about if that k-word you used proved prophetic?
What you going to say if it does/did?
Good riddance to bad rubbish? Will it be that, Hmm? I dont think so
Afterall Pro 18:21 let us know that:
The typing hand tongue has the power of life and death...

The k-word in your original hidden post wasn't to be taken on face value
but Seun obviously doesnt take lightly to slip ups of such manners
and that's why the bot is averse to the use of the k-word
and will pull the automatic ''hide post+remove posting privilege'' trigger whenever it spots the use of the k-word

I could write more, but I dont want to find myself in the same banned position you currently are in

Hehehehe, this pastime of slapping someone and saying sorry at the same time is not holy at all.

foladara777:
You are missing the whole point and an wondering if it's deliberate... Did God create the earth? Yes, at least to you. Is the earth perfect? No. Did God have the power to create a perfect earth?? If yes, then God is not good, if No, then God is not omnipotent

Lol, how won't i miss the whole point with you. Once i say there is no God, i get the whole point, right? Silly. Your friends said that natural phenoma is evil and they got all superstitious about it, i showed it so, now you tell me that i miss the point. Why do you stay in a fire and then claim fire is evil? Your friends claimed that tsunamis and hurricanes are evil, i simply gave them the scientific perspective, that's how geographers, meterologists, geologists view them on Discovery Channel. They are exciting, really
The earth is not perfect, but used to be. Stop acting like someone who lost his memory of the Genesis account.

foladara777:
Christians are the most dishonest people of all time... The verse says "until you have seen the son of man COME as KING" plss explain how he came as long during the transfiguration. Other verses that contain this prophecy are here:
“Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven. Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place…“ (Mark 13:26-30)
And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)
Oya, interpret these verses as transfiguration too, I dare you!!

Don't be mad, i understand that the truth is bitter. Coming in His kingdom simply means coming in His royalty or realm. That was what Jesus was transfigured into before the eyes of three(some) of His disciples on the mount and Peter gave witness to it.
2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eye[b]witnesses of his majesty. [/b]
2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

As to the other verses that you brought up, they say nothing about Jesus coming in the lifetime of the 12 disciples. They clearly say that Jesus will come in the generation of the people that would witness those signs spoken of. Those signs are yet to be witnessed, or have they? The generation of people that would witness those things talked about will not pass away before the second coming. Like i expect you to get furious and gnash your teeth in rage, envy and jealousy. they did it to Jesus and the servant is not greater than his Master. It is not my fault that you are blind and dead, neither can you hear the words of my Master.

dalaman:
You dont understand them better than anybody. You just simply choose to twist them to conform to your beliefs.

Matt 10: 21-23.
21. Brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death, 22 and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes

He clearly told his desciples that they will suffer persecution but they should keep running from one town to another, before they finish going through the towns of Israel he will return. That was 2000 years ago.

You are a sinner and a child of satan, i am a believer and a child of God. You cannot claim to understand my people as i do. Jesus clearly said that He did not know when He was coming back, why do you deliberately choose to ignore that?

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Mar 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
Mar 13:35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
Mar 13:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.

The context of the above two passages is so clear and unmistakable. Jesus is talking about His second coming and referring to the time of His second coming as a time that even Him does not know. How then can He claim in another place that He would come before a particular time. That would either be a clear contradiction or a misunderstanding. Of course, you do no want it to be a misunderstanding on your part. You just simply choose to twist them to conform to your beliefs.

Firstly, When you look at the direct(redletter) words of Jesus, some parts are clear and straightforward enough."Go and call your husband", "Go into all the world and preach". Some parts are not so clear, even to disciples and believers, Some are not clear to unbelievers like Him speaking in parables. That is one reason why you should ask us what Jesus means instead of JUMPING to conclusions and staying lame despite making a bad landing.
Secondly, the words of Jesus are eternal words. Many of His sayings are not just directed or spoken to the direct audience but to the entire body of Believers yesterday, today and forever. He has that peculiarity of His words not passing away. So if you in your small, limited view decide to be stubbornly myopic with the words of Jesus, it is your loss and malunderstanding, not mine.
In Matthew 10, Jesus calls 12 disciples and says about 37verses, some of which directly apply to them and their immediate task, and MOST of which applies to ALL BELIEVERS not just the 12.
Like when He says Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: This is for their IMMEDIATE task and not even applicable to them in a few years after in Acts 1.

In Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. This surpasses just the immediate listeners and time. It is for all time, it applies till tomorrow. So if you miss the context and Spirit, you miss not me.

In Mat 10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. Evidently, this does not happen to them immediately, it does not even happen to many of them but it is for the whole body of disciples till tomorrow.

Mat 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Mat 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

These verses above clearly surpass the immediate task and audience. Brother delivering up brother, children rising against parent, being hated of ALL men, enduring to THE END, these are messages for the church and body of Christ as a whole. It is not a myopic and local address. Historically and factually, the 12 disciples did not even have to flee around the cities of Israel. They conveniently settled in Jerusalem and continued to expand. It was OTHER believers that fled and were scattered abroad. Till next month, they are yet to flee around the cities of Israel, so the Son of man coming is still within frame. Stop ignoring the clear teachings of jesus that nobody knows when He will come, it makes you an hypocrite.

MrPresident1:
America is the richest most powerful nation in the history of mankind yet according to you she is not mentioned in the Bible! She is not mentioned at all! She is not mentioned at all yet less richer, less powerful empires in history are mentioned and given prominence in the divining of the times of the Bible, huh

Daniel understood that the 70years of Babylonian rule over the Jews was coming to an end, he divined the times, and that made him prepare for the return of his people, Daniel knew that time was up! Yet you here are telling us 'it is not as important to divine the times, whatever that means, as it is to be ready for the time' this is an escapist and illogical play of words, how can you be ready for what you have no idea of its timing? And yet we have the idea of the timing because Paul tells us that brethren are not in darkness that that day should overtake us as a thief! It will catch the world unawares, like as a snare, but the brethren will fully be expecting it. Brethren will know!

THE DAY WILL NOT CATCH BRETHREN UNAWARES! It is very clearly stated in the Bible. As Daniel knew of the times he was in, Daniel knew that the time of the redemption of his people from Babylon had come, so also we now know that the time of the coming of Christ and the redemption of the earth has come. We are not unaware.

You are not ready, you are asleep. I have woken you up, If you like sleep off, doze off, do not watch!

i don't thinkl that i have opined that America is not mentioned in the Bible in the sense that you put it. All nations have some connection to the Bible. But your zeroing it to Trump or Clinton is what i was up against, the Bible didn't say those things and we should not twist the Bible to say them. America is not just the Donald Trump actions and administration. Watching and being ready for the coming of the Lord is not the same thing as engaging in endtime studies and knowledge and prophecies so called. It is keeping pure and expecting Jesus. When the apostles tried to discern the times in the sense that you wish, here is what Jesus replied them. To be witnesses and occupy till He comes. That is more important than engaging in all sorts of puzzles and gambles, and in the middle putting God's name to ridicule.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Image123:
Hopefully, you'd answer mine and stop being the accidental superstitious atheist. A hurricane is a huge storm wind, a tsunami is a sea wave caused by the displacement of a large volume of water. It is like asking me if thunder, lightning, cyclone are good or bad. Wind and rain and rock forming processes are natural phenomena. You are no different from my superstitious friend that opines that a small cyclone is caused by evil women in the village. If you stay in its path, it can cause harm, same with lightning, hurricanes and tsunamis. Even rain can kill you if you are not careful. Rain fell last week that brought down poles some streets away from me. Life could have been involved, does that make rain evil? Now answer my questions.

Hahn ohhhhh, i answered you and you disappeared, refusing to answer moi.

MrPresident1:
You are very right. But there are a series of steps you have to understand before you can pin-point this mixture.
Paul told us that we should be care and let no man deceive us that that day will not come except there comes a falling away first, and that man of sin is revealed...

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

after saying this, Paul now tells us that we now know what is withholding the revelation of the Son of man in his time. Meaning that this point is the single most important determinant for the coming of the Son of man. If the falling away does not occur, if the son of perdition is not revealed, then don't even look forward to the coming of Jesus. You get me?

Shadeyinka, you have to continue reading here , you will see that I have not made any bogus claims, I have interpreted the Bible precept for precept.

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2 Thessalonians 2:6
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

This fellow sha wan force me to dey talk eschatology. Let's just sing alleluia, glory, and go home What are your questions BTW?

Blocking the road and burning tyres does not constitute or communicate peace. They should be rightly dispersed before they start burning buildings and cars and making all the school students to pay for damages on resumption.

hahn:
Guy answer my question first

You think hurricanes and tsunamis are good things? Yes or no

You can go on further to explain their benefits to humanity and the victims of these god made beauties

Hopefully, you'd answer mine and stop being the accidental superstitious atheist. A hurricane is a huge storm wind, a tsunami is a sea wave caused by the displacement of a large volume of water. It is like asking me if thunder, lightning, cyclone are good or bad. Wind and rain and rock forming processes are natural phenomena. You are no different from my superstitious friend that opines that a small cyclone is caused by evil women in the village. If you stay in its path, it can cause harm, same with lightning, hurricanes and tsunamis. Even rain can kill you if you are not careful. Rain fell last week that brought down poles some streets away from me. Life could have been involved, does that make rain evil? Now answer my questions.

foladara777:
Matthew 16: 28 I assure you that there are some here who will not die until they have seen the Son of Man come as King.”
So u don't even read your bible?? There are three other places he said this... Even your Jesus no be original prophet sef

That's not referring to the Second coming but to the transfiguration which happened about a week after. About the period of the second coming, Jesus said even He doesn't know the time, have you ever read that or you don't want to?

dalaman:
Jesus never said he was coming back in 2000 years time. He mentioned more than once that he'll come back during the life time of his disciples. He even told someone specifically that the person will see him coming from the clouds. Bit as usual no body understands the words of Jesus only image123

Where did He say these? Of course, a human is more likely to understand human communication better than an animal will. The words of Jesus are spirit and life, i understand them better than a sinner does. It's commonsense.

foladara777:
This seems like utter crap to me. Can you explain the relevance of this comment??

i would have been confused if you were not confused.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

hahn:
Well, for starters many lives and properties are destroyed as a result of hurricanes and tsunamis. People lose loved ones, lose investments they have built for years etc

You think hurricanes and tsunamis are good things?

foladara777:
I mentioned God responsible for the deaths of some people and u replied that alcohol, food and machines also cause deaths... Is that a justification?? Because if it is, the deaths caused by Boko Haram can be justified the same way... Get it now??

That something causes death doesn't mean that that something is evil. That's why i mentioned other things that cause deaths, even more deaths annually than tsunamis and hurricanes. Hahn, if no life or property was lost in a tsunami or hurricane but it was only observed from far, would you consider it as evil? Are volcanic eruptions and other mountain building processes evil? Are you superstitious or just a freelance thinker? Why do you think death is evil?

foladara777:
Because Matthew 16: 28 says,
28Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in (into) His kingdom.
If Jesus was the real deal, he would have come many years ago in line with his prophecy

dalaman:
Why won't it be mythical. People that die remain dead. Remember the same Jesus promised his followers that he'll come back during their lifetime.

Many people misunderstand Jesus, even His disciples. However some do not want to understand Him, i hope you are not in such class as you will be a total waste of time and space for me. Jesus made specific statements about His second coming that make it clear that it can't be what you think it is.

John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?

For instance, in the above passage, some disciples thought Jesus meant that John will not die before the second coming, but John himself says that wasn't what Jesus said or meant.
Jesus CLEARLY said no one, not even Him knows when He's coming except God the Father. Why people like you choose to ignore or disbelieve something so clear and specific is beyond me. You choose to believe what you want to for your own perceived gain, not for truth or understanding.

foladara777:
What the fvck are u saying?? So because other things cause deaths, it's perfectly okay if God murdered another 100,000 people with an earthquake... Alcohol is unhealthy, food and machines have their flaws but God is supposed to be a good and almighty God

Don't blow a fuse friend. Calm down and express yourself coherently.

foladara777:
That's how u people do, when u don't have an adequate response... Look for excuses not to talk about the issues raised... It's not new anymore

Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

You are not far from being a believer.

olaolaking:
A whole lots of lies. The Op never surfaced since then. Just check his profile, and you may understand that this is not just a normal observation but something else.

But I can confirm to you that the op lied in many ways.
There was a convention, but his write up is not limited to the convention.
You may need to read again

Okay, thank you very much. So what parts of his write up are lies?

dalaman:
How can a dead man be alive?

Or, so He did exist and died on the cross? Good, very good. Why then do you think that His coming and promise to permanently end tears is mythical?

foladara777:
Implied it is evil?? Something that causes the deaths of thousands of people needs not be implied to be evil, it is expressly and inherently evil, no one should have to prove that to you

Alcohol, food, machines cause the deaths of thousands of people annually, are you simply simplistic or you are not one of our famous 'thinkers' or what?