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A disciple of Jesus is supposed to be a Christian, and a Christian is supposed to be a disciple of Jesus. Some people don change am but God is watching microscopically, judgement day go long.

tete7000:
Sorry to say this: Fire extinguisher is a very important and urgent safety equipment. Imagine there has been fire, your mum would have needed to produce it in a jiffy, so it is an offence for her not to know its whereabout. It is not enough to have a fire extinguisher, it must be strategically placed for easy and immediate access in case of fire.


Secondly the FRSC in question didn't extort but gave an official fine. The money paid goes straight into government coffer.

It is an unfortunate incident but let your mum be conversant with where those items are placed before driving her car out. In case of emergency such knowledge might save her and her car.

Very true. Even though i don't like our road safety people's way and other uniformed fellows in Nigeria, they are right in this instance.

freethinker01:
does what you wrote make any sense to you cus it doesn't to me. Please, I don't think I'll reply any of your quotes cus I find them rather verbose. No offense.

Likely the devourer has devoured most of your cognitive faulty and ability to comprehend, it happens to many sinners.

[quote author=MizJanet post=48118491]

then Jesus lied when he said a mans two feet go to hell ?

you are confuse sha, so hell in Jobs 14:13 is Grave , then the rich man in Jesus story is in grave nah , do u agree ?



"In Hades he lifted up his eyes " Luke 16:23 NASB

sheol or grave or hades or quberah are synonymous says image123

i just replied someone on this. Here it is again.
i said that "The word hell or sheol or grave or hades or quberah are synonymous." That is in the CONTEXT of the question Jane asked about Job 14v13. They don't ALWAYS have the same meaning, but they can have the same meaning or similar connotation. For instance, in the same Bible or old English, the words 'meat' and 'bread' are synonyms for the word 'food'. However, they also have other and specific meanings. Bread is actually that LOAF made from flour, and meat is that specific piece of animal flesh or beef. Only someone who is dull or has nothing to do will argue endlessly for example and say that the Bible is contradictory in saying Esau ate pottage, then meat somewhere. The meat it referred to is simply food.
Heb 12:16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

Hell or sheol or grave or hades or quberah can synonymously mean the literal grave/tomb/sephulchre/place of burial that anybody is buried in depending on context. However, the hell that we are talking about as the abode of the wicked is a different place. Else, it makes no sense to say "Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God." if everyone is already going there.

what is the meaning of bossom ?

You failed to answer my questions, here they are again. Are you really saying that Abraham's bosom is not a place? Is there any of Jesus' parables that are impossible? mention them if any, thank you.

hahn:
Lol @ emboldened. I thought Jehovah is a god of miracles

Good thinking. You should think more.

hopefulLandlord:
The excuse is that it can be staged and its valid

Even an atheist can stage such and we've heard several dubious pastors performing staged miracles

Make a limb grow pls, since your god said "ask anything in my name"

The word ANYTHING means ANYTHING

It can also be real, such people should learn to think outside their shortsighted box. i don't have a god.

4kings:
Elucidate pls

Good, very good. i said that "The word hell or sheol or grave or hades or quberah are synonymous." That is in the CONTEXT of the question Jane asked about Job 14v13. They don't ALWAYS have the same meaning, but they can have the same meaning or similar connotation. For instance, in the same Bible or old English, the words 'meat' and 'bread' are synonyms for the word 'food'. However, they also have other and specific meanings. Bread is actually that LOAF made from flour, and meat is that specific piece of animal flesh or beef. Only someone who is dull or has nothing to do will argue endlessly for example and say that the Bible is contradictory in saying Esau ate pottage, then meat somewhere. The meat it referred to is simply food.
Heb 12:16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

Hell or sheol or grave or hades or quberah can synonymously mean the literal grave/tomb/sephulchre/place of burial that anybody is buried in depending on context. However, the hell that we are talking about as the abode of the wicked is a different place. Else, it makes no sense to say "Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God." if everyone is already going there.

cloudgoddess:
The precise opposite is true. No aspect of human experience is unique to religion, the good nor the bad.

i did not mention anything about uniqueness, i actually said "The actual good news is that there is nothing significant outside God. There is nothing out there that cannot be obtained in here." The opposite of that will be "The actual good news is that there is many things significant outside God. There many things out there that cannot be obtained in here." Is that what you wished to say? If yes, mention them.

If anything, the Abrahamic religions exacerbate many of the unpleasant/destructive aspects of being human (tribalism/"us vs. them" mentality, childhood trauma & indoctrination, emotional reasoning, taking life for granted, etc etc). And it teaches us to hate our very nature, causing an obsession with unrealistic ideals.

Humanism is the way to go.

All you have mentioned happen everywhere. There is no gain in humanism.

cc: Ranchhoddas, TomHagen.
Like i said i would later talk more on this.
As i said on the other thread, i'm not too excited about such challenges or even miracles in general. i have seen a fair share in my little experience nonetheless. If you walk with God, you are likely to see miracles, however no one should put the cart before the horse, else little progress will be made.
Yeah, there is the common resort to Joh 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.
This was spoken by Jesus to a PARTICULAR man, not to His disciples. Not even to the generality of sinners. In other scriptures, it is clearly stated otherwise.
Joh 12:37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
Joh 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

The people of Jesus'time could not complain of not seeing miracles, yet many did not believe. They kept on asking for more, even when Jesus was on the cross. They said do a miracle then we will believe. When He rose from the dead(which was a miracle), i'm sure you know that they did not still believe, instead they bribed soldiers and jailed disciples. The Word of God is the proven and sure thing to believe. If you do not believe it, you are not likely to believe any other thing. And any other thing you believe is not likely to hold you firm and strong like the Word will. Millions of people saw unprecedented and unparalleled miracles with Moses, yet they perished in the wilderness because of their (you know the rest).
Elijah that called a similar challenge didn't get King Ahab and Jezebel to believe. Even the prophets of Baal did not believe but were slaughtered instead. Hear from him the result of his efforts a few verses later.
1Ki 19:10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.

It was even God that was telling him not to be ridiculous, that he is not the only one that believed. The point again is that there is nothing much to be excited about. i wish them "luck", and pray them mercy and grace in their endeavours.

If you are asking if God will answer, i don't know and i'm not God, neither do i know what the fellow discussed with God as it were. Can God answer? YES. The likely results even after the answer is what i am skeptical about based on biblical and other experience.

sarutobie:
on the contrary, I was just a few years past 27 during the election campaign BUT I never fell for the sugar coated lies from Buhari and his machinery. I asked myself, what was his achievement when he had all the power to himself? Nil....I asked myself what has he contributed to the nation's growth since he left Dodan barracks for over 30 years? Nil, no philanthropic endeavor of note..we only hear from him when it gets to election time...obasanjo and most of his colleagues went back to school to get more enlightened and knowledgeable but he never did...I was very little during his first rule, but that is why we have the bloody internet! one could get a centuries worth of knowledge and history at the tip of his fingers....so WHY did learned nigerians fall for such deciet??

And you think GEJ would have been a better option? How exactly? The house was already crumbling as it were. By now, GEJ and noi would have borrowed out Nigeria to IMF and world Bank. The major drawbacks have been militant criminals disturbing power and the economy. Asides that, every other thing will have happened and even worse and faster.

Babangida upholds fundamental human rights, i guess that sums up the whole article.

410 bags off rice, 400 bags of beans, 200 bags of millet, 200 bags of sorghum, 750 cartons of spaghetti, 50 cartons of Maggi cubes and 810 cartons tomato paste. Others are 101 Vegetable oil in 20 liter kegs, 101 palm oil in 20 liter kegs, 50 bags of salt, 100 bags of sugar, 420 cartons of milk and 420 cartons of milo chocolate.
“The non food items include; 800 pieces of mattress, 500 hundred pieces of blanket, 500
pieces of nylon mats, 1000 plastic buckets, 1000 plastic spoons, 1000 plastic cups 1000, plastics plates, 1000 plastic pairs of slippers, 2000 men’s wear, 63 cartons of bath soap and 1000 bath towels,”

These should equally be given to states where workers are not being paid salaries, or is it not emergency too?

TomHagen:
I sight you Sir. Na only you still dey give me small hope for Christianity. This is Ranchhoddas. I want your thoughts on this thread...www.nairaland.com/3261481/atheists-lagos-worldwide-come-witness

Lo, it is an amusing thread, i really don't have much to say. One thing i know though is that miracles and signs are not a very reliable way of winning people to God. It's just a bait, and experience both biblical and personal shows that such people USUALLY continue looking for baits their whole life(premature babies as it were) and do not live strong christian lives. i'll elucidate more later. Busy.

raphieMontella:
clearly stated in the new testament...
Ask and it shall be given onto u...
Once that request is backed by faith...
Dnt gimme roundabouts a statement is a statement..

There are many statements in the Bible, don't take them in isolation or you will continue missing the point. The person that keeps doing the same thing and expecting different result is what?

freethinker01:
if FAITH doesn't work that way, how else does faith work? It's been proven times without number that miracles and faith worked only in the buybull... If i had come here to tell u how the tumour dissapeared through the man's untiring prayers and faith what would u have sed?... U guys always look for an escape strategy. God doesn't work that way, i guess he works this way. Smdh.

i mentioned it already. Faith is primarily and basically for salvation, for without faith it is impossible to please God. That is like the oxygen faith, the one everyone can get and is readily accessible. It is so cheap and available that you don't need to be brilliant or rich or disciplined to have it. This is what it means to believe God, God has made it so cheap, so low, so accessible that anyone can reach it and believe. So, no one can say christians don't really believe God in that sense. This is the faith that is paramount, necessary and compulsory, without which it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God. However, there are OTHER LEVELS of faith that we can grow into and are encouraged to grow into. A very limited percentage grow into this levels. It is not COMPULSORY to grow into these levels. However to receive other things from God, you need to grow. It is that simple. Not everybody works miracles, that does not mean they are not christians, neither should atheists cry more than the bereaved.

Stop contradicting yourself. It is either you know there are miracles or there are no miracles. The miracles people have and the testimonies they share, how many excuses have you given? The blind, the mad, the dead etc, what were your excuses, were they also in the Bible?

dankol:
Are you stalking my post now...Seriously, I am humbled to know some persons cant just ignore my posts thats none of their business. I think, my ignoring you at my threadis really biting you hard. Bro, let me advice you, look up to Jesus, and let me look up to any fellaiwish to look up to.. I do not think that is too much to ask.. Thank you very seriously

To STALK is to trouble somebody steadily and malevolently: to assail somebody in a steady and sinister way. i have not done this. i follow one of your threads and i follow countless other threads. The post you quoted was made OVER 3 weeks ago and i have since quoted several other people. When i quote people, it is one to address the person primarily and then other readers of the forum. i do not need you to reply me or ignore me, i don't work that way. i simply reply posts that interest me, not needing your attention. What has your own attention gotten you, not to mention me? Please be reasonable not ridiculous.

They just shared the highest allocation in 12months last week. This man should at the least pay salary, not share food. Even idp camps share food, this is not governance.

4kings:
If Sheol=hades=grave=gehanna=quberah, the concept of fiery torment is imaginary. Right?

Jesus parables = allegory. Then Abraham blossom is not a real place. Like Daarh

No.

freethinker01:
Seriously, I had a similar experience precisely a month ago that I even felt like sharing here here but I think this thread has giv'n me the avenue.
It happened to my Aunt who had a tumour(late tho') that was diagnosed to be carcinogenic(it was discoverd when she went for her regular check up). The doctor said it was good that it was discovered early so it won't metastasize and she would need to be operated. When she informed her husband, he bluntly and outrightly objected it saying as far as he's alive, no member of his family would undergo sugery(he even boasted of how his wife delivered their second baby normally even when the doctor said the only option she had was a CS) that it's convenant the Lord made with him. He said the God he serves has never failed him.
Well, as time went by. The man continued fasting and praying. He even went to the mountains. So also the tumour continued to grow still believein in His Yaweh.
Eventually, it was discovered the tumour was malignant and spread drastically within a month. My aunt gave up the ghost last month based on her husband's strong believe in God. Ooh, did I metion he's also a pastor?
Everyone that heard of it blamed him for being so stupid and jeopardizing the life of his wife.
Now, this is my quetion, as a believer, what exactly did the man do wrong?

HardMirror:
Exactly what I am saying. Imagine if it was a wrong diagnoses, the same christian blaming him would praise him for his faith and call it healing.
So why blame the man when all he did was trust God? Lol

Mr seun, what do you think

She went for her regular check up BUT objected to surgery. So, who is fooling who? A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. God did not stop her from going for REGULAR check ups or for surgery, her husband did. Most Nigerians do not do surgery(popularly called "operation" either because of poverty, or because of fear, not out of faith. They'd rather pray or hope than spend or look for money worth thousands or hundreds of thousands. If someone has kidney issues for instance and it cost 2million to trsvel to India and fix. If they have the money, they will go. If they don't or are not convenient to part with such money, then they will run to church or to media house with picture and pleas. God is not mocked. There is nothing wrong with going ahead with your surgery and trusting God. People die during surgeries too, so its not foolproof too. many Nigerians are afraid of incompetence of our hospitals and doctors, so would rather not have surgery or CS. This is out of fear that somebody will forget scissors inside them, or nepa will take light, or some complication will happen during recovery. In developed countries where CS is easy and commonplace, Nigerians there will choose CS ahead of labour pains. i'm talking experience, not just mouth. So, the root cause is not really about faith or covenants the Lord made. People should learn to act on Rhema not on Logos. Even Peter did not act on Logos, walking on water afterwards, he still used boats. He did not say, Jesus the same forever. He did it for me then and will never fail. Lemme jump inside Galilee. Faith does not work that way.

cc: Ranchhoddas

Teempakguy:
name it

Like your interest in talking about Him every other day, and your owning His book and trying to update your life with its contents from time to time. When last did you read from the book of HardMirror's god duagua or something, or from the flying spaghetti?

raphieMontella:
how do u classify miracles sef?...common evennts like this?...she wasnt dragged into the car...she allowed photos to be taken...
Doesnt that tell u her sense is there?..
Smtymz u guys dnt see beyond the horizon..
Love is the greatest miracle man...
And maybe ur god cant heal an amputee...or rada he's not existing..
Miracle working god my a**

Are you an amputee? Independent and long time users of this forum confirmed the miracle and its possibility, what more does an armchair critic like you need? a reset slap?

MizJanet:
open your eyes to the bold or you need glasses , from your bible , the two feet will go to hell. so how many people have go to hell with their two feet ? or is Jesus lying here ?

Apparently, you suffer from some kind of amnesia. You have been talking several times about a man's feet disappearing immediately he died/dies.

Job is a sinner ? job 14:13

Read slowly and repeatedly until it sinks. The word hell or sheol or grave or hades or quberah are synonymous.

did he say Abraham bosom is a place ?

Bosom means what ?

Are you really saying that Abraham's bosom is not a place? Is there any of Jesus' parables that are impossible? mention them if any, thank you.

cloudgoddess:
I've felt the same way. The good news is that you don't have to waste any more time now

The actual good news is that there is nothing significant outside God. There is nothing out there that cannot be obtained in here.

HardMirror:
I am shocked at the hypocrisy and lack of faith of Christians!

I have discovered beyond doubt that Christians actually don't Believe in God!

A cursory look at the Bible shows that there is something called the GIFT of faith, which is ONE of the nine gifts of the Spirit. Commonsense should therefore tell you that not everybody has this GIFT of faith, neither is it a major requirement. What EVERY PERSON needs and MUST have is a faith in God for forgiveness of sins. That is a faith in Jesus as Lord and Saviour. It is not a crime if people don't have faith for miracles, though it is good to. Faith for miracles is not equal to the required FAITH in God which is for salvation and to be children of God.

A girl had leukemia and the dad refused to follow the doctors recommendation, instead he kept his daughter at home and was believing God's report that his daughter was healed. The daughter died and everyone came for his head. Even Christians said he was a fool.

A fool for what? For believing God?
For trusting God?

There is NOTHING wrong in following the doctor's recommendation, as far as it does not contradict God's Word. People's ignorance cannot be blamed on God. People continue to Perish for lack of knowledge till tomorrow. Nothing new, they will die and go to Heaven earlier than they should. No biggie. Believing in God is not anti-medicine.

A pastor dies and his pastor brother and family starts praying for his resurrection. Christians on nairaland called them fools, said he is dead and can't return. What?! Can't God raise the Dead? Did the dead bones of Elisha not raise a dead man? How much more the name of the Living Jesus Christ! Can't it raise the dead?

Nothing wrong in praying, no harm in trying. It's better to try than not to try at all.

A man was bitten by a snake in Idu-Osun, Osun state some 10years ago. He insisted on staying in Church and praying. He died after about 6 hours in the church. I recall how everyone, including me (I was a christian then) called the man a fool. Said he was testing God?
So trusting God has become testing God?
Why do we call people fools for trusting God?
Does it mean we don't believe God can do the miraculous again?

Trusting God is not staying in church. Trusting God can be done in the hospital, which is the sensible thing to do. God gave your man sense, yet he vehemently refused to use it, asking God for something else. He can only receive a miracle of mercy, or if he is in a condition where he cannot help it, God may help him.

What would be a pastors reaction if a BEHEADED person is brought to his church and he is asked to pray for the dead person to come to life?

Do we truely believe God or just playing along just in case God exists?

Makes me wonder...

Man is not a robot.

Teempakguy:
you seem like a bold one.

so, answer this very simple question.

Mention ONE test that I can carry out to show that your God, and not Allah, is the most powerful and hence worthy of acknowledgement.

In other words, mention one thing that your God can do RIGHT NOW and ANYTIME. that Allah can't do RIGHT NOW and ANYTIME.

HardMirror:
Lol.
Good one there.

Duh, this is so straight forward, it is a new month miracle that you missed it. While i don't indulge in aimless rubbish about which god is God coming from atheists, the fact has to be reiterated that God forgives sins, right now. As for the other fellow, nobody knows.

theoptimist298:
Is it ethical to splash someone's personal details online like this? Bank account number, bvn, house addresses, is it ethical?

Is it ethical to steal, is it ethical? What is ethical in Nigeria?

raphieMontella:
oh really?... Tell ur god to heal an amputee.. M still searching for one he has done.. Misguided humans

Oh, when He does, almighty raphieMontella will finally believe. How nice.

Seun:
How do they know she has been healed?? The only evidence we have is a change of clothes.

How else? When she stopped behaving mad and REGAINED her senses. You need a doctor's report? Would you have further excuses after?

HardMirror:
Good. Can u do a follow up for us?
Tell us her condition in about 6 months time. By that time the church would be tired of attending to her needs and holding her back from roaming the streets. Mad people roam the streets in Nigeria because they are not cared for. Caring for her does not make her cured.

DeeperLife don't do such. They only confirm your miracle and leave you to your family. They may try to preach to you or get you to start attending services, but nothing to do with patching up miracles.

HardMirror:
I have addressed it.
It is the same way people come to church claiming to be healed of cancer and still die of cancer in the end. Problem is we don't follow up these miracle stories. She only got her cloths changed and will be given attention and care which would make it seem she is cured. But down the line once these attention and packaging is unsustained, she would go back to the streets. mad people still have a lot of sanity, don't be fooled, people discuss with "mad" people all the time and they talk sense many times. Some madness is just compulsive disorder, like roaming and gathering things.
The woman is just being used

Why not take it upon yourself to follow up? The description is very clear, and three people Sunnysteve009, Reign4560 and koboko69 already confirmed about real insanity and then Kumuyi. Arm chair critic playing ostrich.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER FIVE
THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF RELIGION IN ME
PART ONE
Things were pretty rough for me at the start of being an undergraduate but I was as churchy as ever. Infact, the week I stepped into school, I joined a local branch of the church I attended and the following week, I joined the choir. As time went, my dad could not keep up with the monthly feeding allowance he ought to give. I survived based on goodwill from colleagues and friends. I recall, one of my very close female friend brought food for me one night, and my roommates were shouting that I should not eat the food that it contains “love portion”. That statement made me more eager to eat the food sef. Many offers came my way to write exams for others, jamb, pume amongst others. I would vehemently refuse it. Though even now, I will still not accept such offer as a principle but not due to a religious belief anymore.

You have proven what i have said from the beginning again and again. You were simply religious. You enjoyed it, that was all. You were never righteous, you were never born again. You simply tried to conform, never convert. And when it did not pay your selfish self, you resorted to what seems to pay your selfish self.

I needed money to survive, I had this mentality that, since I was working for God, he would meet my needs. Yea, he ought to but he would not come down to give me money or food or clothing or whatever my need could be. He would use human like me to bless me. But then, with or without comfort or help from anyone, I continued steadfast in the faith. At the beginning of year 2, I could not pay fees, and it is expected that one ought to pay within two weeks or pay extra two thousand naira in another two weeks addition. I went to do laundry with someone, where I got ¼ of my school fees. I ran to the church to LEND me some money and that I would repay back because that was the agreement, I had with my dad. But the pastor told me same old story “no money, blab bla bla”. I was broken inside of me. I felt used. I am not asking to be given, but to lend. I am not a new person in church, infact not only actively consistent but well known member of the choir. That Sunday morning, I spoke with the pastor and he answered negative.

Poor mentality, you never worked for God but for yourself ego and your church/denominations. You were never in the faith, how then can you continue steadfast in the faith? You lived in a unreal world as it were, without plans and on many assumptions. Now, depending on church administration, it is usually very rare to find a church that borrows people money. How many people they wan borrow, i would have advised that you go to individuals(if your pride will allow you), not relying to the church organisation. If the church denomination is buoyant enough to reserve money for charity, or the individual in the office is, that is the rare case where you may get such borrow me help from denominations. It is like any other organisation. You cannot even dare go to your school to borrow money from it, or where you worked. But you can go to individuals there. Unfortunately, that is the way church organisation is usually like. That is organisation, it is everywhere. You deal with these facts and realities, instead of sulking.

I could not stay in church, my heart was heavy. I went back to the hostel to cry my heart out in the toilet. I looked back and came to realize that, I am just a tool in the church and the day I become useless, I am disposed. The church is not really after your service but your money. That is why they honour the rich more than anyone working. But my challenge was, if I decide to pick a job, I would not have time to serve God as much as I ought to but in the light of recent event. I told myself, “I do not care anymore, I have to survive and to do that, I need something to bring me income whether it clashes with church activities or not. God should understand my situation”.
That day, I unlocked my imagination, I began to think business, entrepreneurship. I began to be observant of my environment, what challenges do we have and what solution I can proffer. I came up with a lot of ideas on how I can make money but most of them are time consuming and capital intensive. I looked inward, what can I do? I am a computer literate with good typing skills. So I went to meet a friend who barely uses his laptop. He lend me and I began to typeset projects, term papers and review. I got money to survive but not my school fees. It was my appeal to a brother and some persons in church that made it possible for me to pay.

Self pity. You made yourself a tool, no one made you a tool. It pays to serve God, and it is also good to work in church. But it is not a means to enrich yourself like you hoped. If you want to, there are churches and you yourself mentioned offers where they were willing to PAY you to work in church. This is not God's fault but yours. You made the decisions. Serving God is more than working in church. Working in church is serving the church in most cases. It is a good thing but not priority, especially for one who is not righteous but just a fellow in religious conformity. A true christian could pick up jobs and still serve God in prayers, evangelism, givings, exhortations, faithfulness and righteousness. It is not choir practice and singspiration that is core christian service. What do you think the early church did that was called serving God? You think they were busy taking solos and trios? When you eventually found time to think, you got yourself self employed, meaning you still had time to continue for religiousity if you chose. Why did you not make a difference? Why did you not show all the other people in church how it should be done from the Bible?

After, I successfully paid, fees, I made up my mind that, it will never happen again that, I would be running helter-skelter for school fees till I leave school. And so it was till now. Right there and then, I began to save for the following semester fees. I assumed, I was alone in the world with no one to ask or look after my wellbeing. While I was doing typesetting works, I got part-time job at a cake and catering firm where I learnt a lot of things on catering and cakes. Here, I worked like a slave and got no salary for good 6months before I quit. I stayed because of the knowledge I was gaining but when I could not bear the tantrums from my boss, I quit. I did a lot of other part-time jobs but then, let me take you to the churchy part.[/b]

This should have been done from day 1. You do not have to be foolish(pun intended) to do this.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER FOURTEEN
LOVE IN TOKYO
I printed the admission list took it to church to show people what God has done for me. I can’t agree less that they were happy for me. I told my Proprietress boss about it, she was happy for me. I continued with them till I left for School but the Steel company, after that encounter with the supervisor, he was not letting me work as often as before because he was angry I left work for so many days. So I had been replaced. I tried getting in through another means but it was not for long. After some time, I quit trying. Moreover, as soon as my dad learnt of the work. He put me under pressure to quit. Though, I did not listen but the way it was, gave me reason to quit completely and so my sojourn with that place was over but it was quite an experience. Many lives were wasted there but I escaped (normally I would have added, it was by God’s grace). My dear reader, Why would God spare me and let some others die? Are they not his creations too? Young men who were just seeking for what to eat. Every week, there is always a casualty. Let me tell this one that made me lost appetite for two days when it occurred.

Don't be ridiculous, even the Bible says to WATCH and pray. A place where safety of lives is of no significance or value, it is God you are blaming? Well, it shows your lack of exposure. There are companies and factories where they take safe work seriously, they are also human beings. You reap what you sow. If a company is carefree and careless with production, storage, movement etc, it will result in more accidents and incidents. You don't cover danger with the blood of Jesus, you remove or avoid the danger. A driver is moving around with faulty vehicle, no brakes, poor light etc and it is God's fault or job if an accident happens? i thought you were now free thinking?

This guy was one of the persons driving crane that magnetize metal objects from Scrap section (yea- that was the other section I forgot) to the Furnace. The crane’s function was to magnetize scraps/metals and lower it into the furnace to melt. When the furnace pot is full, it is taken by another crane/machine to the cast section. Now, there is thing we call ‘bomb’, I do not know what is made up but I know then, if this stuff is lowered into the furnace, it sounds like an explosive and sends jets streams of liquid metal in all directions away from the pot. Just like hitting a pot of hot soup with a big stone. The soup will fly in all directions you agree. That’s how it usually occur. So for those of us unlucky to work there by our shift, we are usually alert for any sound from the furnace. As soon as you hear “Gbooom”.. Run for your miserable life! Else, you could be the next person lying down at the clinic with one part of your body eaten away by liquid metal or even dead.

Even Jesus Christ will not work in such a place/area. What is the difference between this and the temptation to jump from the pinnacle of the temple?

So this guy lowered the scrap which contain this explosive metal. The unfortunate thing is that, the pot was almost full. So as the thing enter the pot, it produced a lot of streams of metal. He was in the crane controlling the stuff but the stream came towards him and he tried to escape from being hurt. Well, guess where he flew into. He flew into the pot. “tolum”. While every other person ran for safety. Let me stop it there. But you know he is unredeemable right? Why would God allow such? Mind you, I know the guy, we were co-hustlers. Seeking to get enough money to go to school. His pay was far higher than mine.

The common sense thing to do is to EVACUATE people from the area or condone off the area. You don't even need Holy Ghost or to be born again to know this. Negligence and ignorance is not an excuse. Stop apportioning blame to God, what happened to the management and the people working there? You are driving at production and increase in money, fearing your supervisors, but not fearing God and using your commonsense. Whose fault? It is God's fault that someone burnt himself?
Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Now, I think my challenges were too real for me to notice any lady back then but chief of the burden I carry, Admission matters have been taken away. So I guess, my eyes were now touchlighting and clear enough to appreciate a lady. Now, not that, I don’t have interest, but it is my hobby to kill the interest. Well, since, am a would-be-undergraduate, I began to think of the future. I know am a great person, it would be a disaster to be hooked forever with the wrong woman. So I thought, let me groom a bride now or it may be too late. I began to watch this lady, I spoke with her, I got to know her flaws not her strength cos it’s the strengths that attracted me in the first place- you know what I mean, dear reader. I saw she was teachable and she changed a few things I told her I don’t like about her. And just like it happens.

I proposed to her. It was a powerful and Christianly proposal. I can still remember the lyrics, even the most stubborn Christian sister would have considered my proposal. I would have written it here for you to see how mind blowing it is but I don’t want to give bad boys tool to deceive good church girls. So, I’ll keep that to myself. I told her to take her time and give me feedback when she wants to. On the third day- Jesus rose abi. But for me- Love budded. So we started discretely. Mind you, we were determined to make it Christianly and pure as ever, and it was until, we, were no more. So, I left home for school with someone to remind me of home and give me a reason to come home.

You did not tell where or how you involved God in this. But you will be quick to blame God when you ran into problem. God your houseboy should have made sure everything went well.