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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 12:47pm On Nov 09, 2014

WinsomeX:
1 Corinthians 2:15

KJV:But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

ESV:The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one.

NIV:The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments,

AMP:But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].

Lol, I won't even engage you on the meaning of the verse, the spiritual man himself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God's Generals-Why They Succeeded And Why Some Failed by Image123(m): 12:19pm On Nov 09, 2014

nora544:
Sorry the plaque in south africa was from 1899 - 1902 and at this time Lake the liar was in america.

please read this but I know you will not read it it is the same with the book I told you you should read about Lake the devil who could heal.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/places/outbreak-bubonic-plague

Kai, what did i do for you. I already read the book na and i said so. 11.11pm August 31.
https://www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents/22#25925496#25925265

Christianity Etc › Re: God's Generals-Why They Succeeded And Why Some Failed by Image123(m): 12:13pm On Nov 09, 2014

Lol, Nora is back. My good friend wey no dey hear say God can heal or prosper.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 12:05pm On Nov 09, 2014

johnydon22:
lol just tell me you dont know which one to say because its obvious you know if you say either yes or no.. u implicate urself

Yes or No to what? I'm not under any sort of pressure to reply you or answer you, you know?

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Image123(m): 11:44am On Nov 09, 2014*

thehomer:
While your folly is believing in the Christian God. Actually, my point is that your God is not love. His nature is one of hate.

Sure your love for imaginary entities is great. Sure God is love and God is blind. I'm sure with God's marriage, he has successfully inseminated the church. Actually, you remain the same astoundingly dull and ignorant fellow.

It is never folly to believe in God, I've got my life and eternity taken care of. You in folly are living a meaningless life with prospects of an hopeless eternity except you repent.
Your confusion is pitiable. So conveniently, God is love so that He is blind, but He's suddenly not love so that you can glory in your misery of hate propaganda. Don't let the devil continue playing ludo with your brain this way, it's unfair.
Another year dawns, come out of folly. Jesus saves.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 11:29am On Nov 09, 2014

johnydon22:
then same here i would need this knowledge... what i need it for is sorely my business ......still gat my question on YES or NO...am still waiting for an answer

Unfortunately, as the teacher giving you this knowledge, i don't see how you need this knowledge and you're yet to clearly or simply tell me why you'd need the knowledge. Your answer will wait till you need it.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Image123(m): 11:18pm On Nov 08, 2014

vooks:
Tithers are the ones who proclaim curses on anti tithers and gloat over 'open heavens' breakthroughs and harvest anti tithers willMEVER walk in. You have examples of people questioning tithing being excommunicated. In short ant-tithers are persecuted more than Tithers.

i'm a tither, and i said that Anybody can decide what he wants to do with his income. . i know some other tithers, sorry for mentioning your names like Olaadegbu, Gombs, Alwaystrue, Bidam, and some others. i'm supposing nlmediator and nannymcphee would be tithers. i do not know how many of them including me, that you can point to or show that they proclaim curses on antitithers. Unfortunately, my post that you are replying remains true in its saying that antitithers look down on those of us that tithe. That is what all the antitithers here do.

There is SUFFICIENT evidence of the early/primitive church giving both on and off scriptures to allow us to conclude what they practiced. This is not an argument from silence. We know they gave and were exhorted to give freely without any benchmarks such as 10%. It is dishonest to deny history especially when it does not favor you. Tithing,Christmas,infant baptism were all introduced into Christianity hundreds of years AFTER Pentecost.

Can you tell us then what Peter gave after Pentecost till death? At least, you claim to have SUFFICIENT evidence of the early/primitive church giving both on and off scriptures to allow us to conclude what they practiced. My point is you can't tell anybody of a surety that somebody never gave a tenth whether then or now. You are not God. Believers give to God, and only Him reserves that right to conclude what anybody gave or is giving. you can't sit in some room with some softwares and internet and conclude sufficiently what happened about 2000years ago. It was not written and you cannot assert to know.

Jesus is depicted as a carpenter's son and as such he could not have tithed if carpentry is all he did because tithes were agricultural and not income. Scriptures say so and so does history; Jews tithed agricultural produce from Israel alone so somebody not in agriculture vocation such as a carpenter or a tax collector was not eligible to tithe.

The Scribes and pharisees were said to have tithed, Jesus said so Himself. If Scribes who are more literate and 'office' jobs than capentry are tithing, nothing stops Jesus the carpenter's son from not tithing. Former Nigerian President Obasanjo was a military man and also a known farmer. Being a carpenter is not mutually exclusive to farming as to assert that Jesus could not have tithed. i'm aware of many graduates and workers in Nigeria who have farms, fish farms, piggery, poultry etc. What then is so special and remote to anybody in an agrarian economy having a farm or garden? Now, by the way, there is no viable document or fact that says that Jews tithed agricultural produce from Israel alone. Or that some people are not eligible to tithe. It is not written anywhere in the Bible but a product of the antitither's imagination.

Image123, this is personal. Would you prescribe animal offerings of somebody who God miraculously healed? Jesus did just that and you would be following His example. The fact of the matter is you would NEVER. For once there are no priests to confirm the leprosy is gone nor to offer the sacrifices on his behalf. So this is a perfect example of a command Jesus gave yet it is not applicable to you or me. In the same way, you can't claim that Jesus is telling you to tithe because he told some Jews/Pharisees to tithe. Do you understand this point?

Good to see you left your unfounded assertions about what people being healed give God. i'm not in a position to prescribe what anybody gives God, but not to belabour you, here is the passage in question.
Mat 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshiped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Mat 8:3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
Mat 8:4 And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, show thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

You can see that Jesus did not prescribe animal offerings for the leper's cleansing. The leper was already cleansed. He was to offer what needed to be done for him to be integrated back into society. He had to meet the priests and be declared fit to cohabit with others. Jesus wasn't going to break the laws of the land as they did not contradict God's laws. In the same vein, i would prescribe that all christians be subject to authority and to obey the laws of the land as long as they do not contradict the laws of God. this is a very applicable scripture and i would be following Jesus'example that way. Following Jesus doesn't mean you have to go live in Galilee or have twelve men going around with you, or wear white robes or speaking KJV english, or going into the wilderness for 40days and nights. It's more than that. May God give you understanding.

About selling all you have, am glad you find the CONDITION for doing it, it is not a universal command EXCEPT that be the only thing you are lacking. Similarly, the tithing injunction is not universal except you be a Pharisee. So how comes you insist on context when it comes to the selling of all you have yet you are totally ignorant of the context Jesus told the Pharisees to tithe? And do you note they were tithing BEFORE Jesus told them to? He asked them to add to their tithing other Weightier things of the law so as to keep it in the fullest

Context.
Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

i know the next line on this BTW, it would most likely come from Mark or one of his cohorts.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 10:38pm On Nov 08, 2014

johnydon22:
i wonder if your teacher asked you what you would do with pythagoras theorem before teaching you that... i need knowledge i want to know, it doesnt concern you what i do with the knowledge... i still havent gotten an answer to my question yet... the option still remains YES OR NO

My teacher knew that i would need the pythagoras' theorem. i also knew that i would need it. i saw it in the syllabus even.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Image123(m): 10:36pm On Nov 08, 2014

pazienza:
Where is the love in the God that destroyed the Amelakites, riping foetus from their pregnant mothers, the God that plans to torment people in hell fire for eternity with no option for forgiveness?

Come again sir. Slowly and one step at a time this time around.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Christianity Etc › Re: Millionaire Pastors and their Poor Members by Image123(m): 10:33pm On Nov 08, 2014

vooks:
business, men's business

You are the one flagrantly displaying venom here not me. Why does it pain you when they are mentioned in bad light? You want everyone to buy your crappy 'touch-not-mine-annointed' ignorance?

You seem to have issues with the use of English words, kindly work on it. Now, i do not recall talking about any venom here so i wonder what you are saying. ([s]Oh, maybe your amateur displays at ophiology on that other thread has done some osmosis[/s])
i'm not pained, neither have i said anything about touching anyone, annointed or unannointed. Are you sure you are on the right thread?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 10:25pm On Nov 08, 2014

Gombs:
Ah! DB goes for his favorite topic in Christianity! I'm thrilled

As is becoming his custom, he shoots himself severally in the feet until he is lame. These fellows are just anywhere belle face except the right angle. We say the sky is blue, they come shouting no no no the sky is actually colorless. Someone else says the sky is red, they say yes yes yes, it is. Another says the sky is black, they say that is the most concise description ever. Another comes and talks about the light spectrum, and they say yaaaay the most profound statement of the year. Bunch of palongo artistes.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 10:18pm On Nov 08, 2014

trustman:
Let me put it this way; we need more than a NARRATIVE of an event in the Bible to want to make it a command that all successive generations of believers must follow.

For example, in the book of Nehemiah, Ezra read the Book of the Law of Moses to the people. It is recorded there that ‘the people all stood up’ and also that ‘they bowed down and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground’.

This recording of the people’s actions and reactions does not, by its very fact of occurrence make it a RULE that all believers MUST henceforth do as these ones here have done.

So, that a thing HAPPENED in scripture does not make it a COMMAND for everyone else to do likewise.

On the other hand, where there is a clear instruction or directive in scripture on a subject matter, it is obligatory on those it is directed at to adhere to such a command.

i will put it this way. A NARRATIVE in the Bible is enough example to show that something happened and that lessons and actions can be imbibed from such good examples.
For example, there is absolutely nothing wrong in people standing up, or bowing down and worshipping the LORD with their faces to the ground’. It is biblical and can be imbibed by any christian as much as lieth in them. So again, read well what we are saying and have being saying, instead of assuming or forcing unfounded conclusions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 10:07pm On Nov 08, 2014

johnydon22:
how am i to blindly believe what i dont know, example if i tell you now that i am using an iphone6 do you blindly believe i am using a phone because i know a phone, i can type with it, i know how to answer a call with it.
the problem with all this is that religion doesnt give room to questions, they will say believe by faith even when am wrong. i for one cannot do that anymore i am entitled to ask questions.
even this question here i still among the least questions i have and am sure you yourself have questions but you are just to afraid to ask.

i say this AGAIN for the umpteenth time. You are not required to believe or understand anything about who sent devil or why the devil is sent. You have so far being unable to show me how your understanding of this particular matter of the thread will help you.
Like i stated earlier, not everyone is required or needs to know the technical details of a phone or computer to use it. By technical details, i refer to all the specifications and internal workings that the manufacturers, engineers and technicians would know. Even little issues as the RAM size, processor speed, chip ratings are not necessary for the average phone and computer user. To insist that you would not use a phone or computer unless you open it up and know how to pieces the screen, the flex, ICs and other things borders on the ludicrous. One may have a iPhone6 and never know how to repair or open it, it doesn't stop you from enjoying all its functions. Same thing with earth and life. You do not need to understand the whole of life before you live your life or enjoy it. Some undergraduate students know more about crude oil and its formation processes etc than some oil barons do. Which one would you rather be?
If you told me you were using an iPhone6, i would not doubt you. Why should i? i do not know you, and i do not exactly care what phone you use, so why should i doubt you. Your choice of phone(use) hardly affects me. Same with your OP, you have not shown how it affects you. If you could show that, maybe we could talk on it. But you yourself already know and say that it is a very little question and issue.
Now, christianity gives room for questions, why not? Jesus was often asked questions, and He answered many as much as He could. He is the Example i suppose. The Bible itself is an answer to many of man's questions. However, there are silly questions, meaningless questions, useless questions, unnecessary questions, unreasonable questions etc. No normal person would spend time on such type of questions, it is not just religion or whatever. If silly questions, meaningless questions, useless questions, unnecessary questions, unreasonable questions are asked in the academic world, or at hospitals, or towards government and politics, or sportsmen, or even celebrities, you would not always be encouraged on such. So, please feel free to ask reasonable questions and be PREPARED to also discuss intelligently and assimilate.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Image123(m): 9:47pm On Nov 08, 2014

thehomer:
What folly? Is it my fault that he is blind?

Your folly of not believing in Him. It is not your fault that God is Love, it is His nature.

Your God of the Bible is not worthy of my love. I don't care that your God won't marry a dog or a gay person. Is your God male or female? Also we already know your God doesn't marry, he simply pumps his seed into any woman he wants. Just like Zeus.

i referred to my love, not yours, you still have this problem with comprehension. God is the definition, the expression and the demonstration of love. Your love may as well count for nothing except it conforms to God's. Who told you my God does not marry BTW, are you not aware that the church is the Bride of God? You my friend remain the same ignorant fellow despite the passage of time. Another year dawns.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Love. by Image123(m): 9:42pm On Nov 08, 2014

texanomaly:
If you wish to talk about God, take it up with someone else. Thank you.

i will oblige him, he is my boy.

Politics › Re: No President Resigns During War, Jonathan Tells APC by Image123(m): 2:49pm On Nov 08, 2014

josite:
so you know the country is at war and yet commits all these blunders that get more and more citizens killed.i have said it before this is the leader that will not go unpunished for allowing so much bloodshed.

It's a convenient and hypocritical excuse given at convenient times t. Nigeria is at war when we need favours like borrowing money or trying to postpone elections and seek tenure elongation. The same people denied and continually play down the missing girls, boko haram decimation of our army and people. Where are the refugee camps, its either there is an uncommon transformation or there is none. You can't eat your cake and have it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 2:33pm On Nov 08, 2014

trustman:
That Jesus turned water into wine does not translate into an instruction for his followers to begin to do so. Right?

In the same way, that Abraham was recorded to have tithed does not make it a command for anyone else to tithe. Do you get it?

You do know that His followers are free to follow His example and principle as much as lieth in them? And from one verse, it can be safely proven and believed that Abraham gave tithes instead of dismissing or belittling it as a one off. For sure, you get it now.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 12:59pm On Nov 08, 2014

johnydon22:
i want to know not believe... believing something means having complete faith in it whether its true or not but i for one dont just want to believe i want to know...

Not all knowledge is profitable or necessary though, like Eve had knowledge and got many people into trouble. You don't need the technical knowledge and details to use a phone or computer for instance. So i say again, you are not required to believe who or why satan is on earth. Again, what will your knowledge and understanding of this matter help you to achieve?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 12:33pm On Nov 08, 2014

The association of palongo dancers, NL chapter. Yuck, that's pretty nauseating.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 12:33pm On Nov 08, 2014

BabaGnoni:
I shall lift my eyes to the hills; from where will come my helper?
- We all need help
Don't gang up on WinsomeX, please release and leave WinsomeX alone.
If at all WinsomeX was angry, WinsomeX was angry at the statement (i.e. how it was twisted)

Ahhh, are you the palongo maestro?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 12:19pm On Nov 08, 2014

WinsomeX:
You, mbaemeka, occupy the latter in all these statements. You are not a Christian, you are a liar. You are not hearing the Holy Spirit, you are hearing demons. Your eternal destination is not heaven but hell. You are a son of perdition. Those who listen to you do so at great peril to their souls.

I have nothing else to say to you on this forum until you repent; and that is if you have capacity to.

oh LA LA .
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 8:52am On Nov 08, 2014

vooks:
My heart bleeds. It was an analogy. You don't need multiple scriptures to construct a doctrine if one verse is as clear as daylight

hmmmm, na wa for wahala.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 8:41am On Nov 08, 2014

vooks:
How many verses do I need to prove that Jesus wept? One John 11:35 sufficeth. Or how many instances of the miracle of turning water into wine do you need before you believe it?

Sorry, can't it be a one off like Abraham tithe theory?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 8:26am On Nov 08, 2014

Image123:
You're not REQUIRED to believe or understand who or why satan is on earth doing anything. How would your belief or understanding of this matter help you exactly?

johnydon22, you didn't answer my question?

Politics › Re: No President Resigns During War, Jonathan Tells APC by Image123(m): 8:09am On Nov 08, 2014

tolustx:
do u knw d cause of d unrest in Burkina faso? If u do, u won't compare it wit dis one.

Then the government spokesperson should not refer us to history.

Politics › Re: No President Resigns During War, Jonathan Tells APC by Image123(m): 8:06am On Nov 08, 2014

dunkem21:
Haba, these guys keep springing up like BH.

I have ignored you before to hide your ignorance but you insisted on exposing your nyash.

Now, tell me the conditions that forced those two presidents to resign.

The OP and the government spokesman claimed that no where in history do presidents resign DURING unrest. Only an ignorant person would swallow that, simple.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 1:01pm On Nov 07, 2014

"And in my lady's chamber.
There I met an old man
Who wouldn't say his prayers,
So I took him by his left leg
And threw him down the
stairs."

choi, no no no.

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Politics › Re: No President Resigns During War, Jonathan Tells APC by Image123(m): 12:51pm On Nov 07, 2014

Image123:
Burkina Faso president resigned recently due to unrest, Argentina President Fernando De la Rua also resigned when he couldn't handle unrest. That's some history in perspective.

dunkem21:
Do you have an idea how long he battled cancer, before he gave up?

Ok, sorry, its only a week.

Somebody has given away the answers on why he resigned though I really marvel at this century long comparisons.

'Chamberlain resigned the premiership on 10 May
1940 after the Allies were forced to retreat from
Norway, as he believed a government supported
by all parties was essential, and the Labour and
Liberal parties would not join a government
headed by him.'

Would he have resigned if all parties supported him and joined his govt?

My real question is 'Was Chamberlain, a president'?

Image123:
Burkina Faso president resigned recently due to unrest, Argentina President Fernando De la Rua also resigned when he couldn't handle unrest. That's some history in perspective.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 12:34pm On Nov 07, 2014

johnydon22:
if thats what you mean then yes am a born again and am looking for answers or am i just to believe what is conflicting my reason i believe i have the right to ask questions!!!

You're not REQUIRED to believe or understand who or why satan is on earth doing anything. How would your belief or understanding of this matter help you exactly?

Politics › Re: No President Resigns During War, Jonathan Tells APC by Image123(m): 11:39am On Nov 07, 2014

Burkina Faso president resigned recently due to unrest, Argentina President Fernando De la Rua also resigned when he couldn't handle unrest. That's some history in perspective.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Time To Win Against Ebola. by Image123(op): 10:54am On Nov 07, 2014

Bidam:
Halleluyah! my spirit is high this friday o, i don't know why.

Yes oh brother, you no get choice, your spirit must to high and be higher in Jesus' name.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by Image123(m): 10:52am On Nov 07, 2014

johnydon22:
please sir tell me exactly what you mean by BORN AGAIN

To be born of God, to have repented and to be or claim to be a child of God.

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