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Liveair: Haha...Irrefutable indeed.
I would've replied if you had a case what replying.

debosky: Sir, Jesus is saying if you gain the world but lose your soul, you've lost the most important thing. He did not say give me your money so I will give you the highest profit.

God is not a money doubling agent or an investment bank. God is not a trader, neither is he a businessman.

Liveair: Doing everything, including clutching on to straw just to keep your religion. Just stop spreading wrong info please, let people think for themselves.

Image123: 1. Did Jesus heal people who were anticipating healing?
2. Did Jesus heal more than one person through a method?
3. Is Jesus present where people are gathered in His name?

Simple yes or no would reduce the beating of the bush.

Liveair: Where is it written that Joseph is Heli's SON-IN-LAW? Is it that you have no comprehension?
If you claim the word [SON] means son-in-law then since same word is used repeatedly in Lk 3, it means Jesus' geneology in Lk is traced through INLAWS.

How silly can this get!

nora544: Don't say Dr. Lake he was never and I say never a doctor ha has no degree, he was never at an University he was a big liar and that PDF is from an University of south africa and and you will see that I have right!

DrummaBoy: Therefore Jesus operated a healing school. abi?

I am not the one beating around the bush, you are. I provided the interaction between us both when it seem you were denying your statement where you admitted that Jesus operated a healing school.

Now that the statement is sounding heretical to you too, you want to deny it. There is no need to answer your question; I won't because it would only blur the issues being discussed. If you are MAN enough, stand by your words.

Image123, you are the one to be held most culpable of all who oppose our discussion here. It is apparent that you know what scriptures say but bc you wish to perpetuate a tradition that is benefitting a small clique, men of God, you choose to oppose clear argument that reveal the errors of these men.

Someone like mbaemeka can be excused but not you.

Or why else do you wish to deny the fact that you admitted that Jesus operated a healing school? Why are you beating around the bush? You need not answer. Its obvious to all.





Good advice.

BabaGnoni: You're doing yourself a great disservice skimming through that FYI

This thread is not about personalities but more of "shine your eyes welu welu" if not its "last chance saloon" situation then.

It isn't really about the contemporary men around us but is more about how they came about their teachings, practices, doctrine (i.e. what or where is the origin)
The "WOF talks" already is showing where and how the contemporary men around us got influenced or indoctrinated by "relics and largely unknown people"

It is from the "relics and largely unknown people" that some contemporary men around us learned:
- to build universities and become chancellors of such universities
- to set up and practice healing rooms or schools
- to wear white suits albeit the international and our own local one don't anymore
- to pursue acquiring private jets
- to be vainglory and puffed up in biggest/largest building(s) in the world
- to merchandise, personalise etc the Gospel
- to acquire bodyguards and/or security personnel
- to etc etc

rickkid: We could have been enjoying better power supply since 2003 but the equipment was stored deliberately to keep us in darkness buying generators and diesel! No wonder Barth Nnaji said what he said! Jesus Christ!

PastorKun: She dey spoil market for you

Liveair: The two passages deal with JOSEPH; Jesus' father not Mary. Matt 1 starts with king David while Lk 3 simply ends with him(reverse order), but are both through JOSEPH.

Mattew 1:6 "And Jesse begat David the king...
v 7; and Solomon begat Roboam...
v16; And Jacob begat JOSEPH the husband of Marry, of whom was born Jesus..."

Luke 3:13 "And Jesus himself...the son of JOSEPH which was the son of Heli...
v31; ...Mattatha which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David.

Try to read more before you argue blindly!

DrummaBoy: I suspected this sort of statement will come up that's why I provided you a "Fashola train" to ride with. Here:

Liveair: See how you disgrace yourself everywhere.
So you haven't noticed that both geneologies in Matt 1 and Lk 3 end at Jesus, through JOSEPH, not Mary.
Maybe falsehood helps you sleep better.

nora544: Money should go to the poor not enrich pastors that they can have a private jet.

You will not understand because it was never money and what this new churches preach is a fake gospel.

that is why nigeria has so many selfish people who say I am a christian but forgot that they have a neighbor.

Liveair: Hahaha. Better look for good excuses.

Matt 1; There are only 26 ancestors to Jesus. From Solomon down, the names are of different individuals.
Lk 3; There are 41 ancestors to Jesus. At every stage the individuals are different from that of Matt 1.

Liveair: I've not uttered a word, just written enlightenment to you.
You study too little for a man.
Next time gather enough info before rushing to post what you think might be evidence.

debosky: Highest yielding portfolio?

God is not an investment bank or a double your money scheme.

DrummaBoy: I meant By the Grace of God - BTGoG.

nora544: You didnot want to understand me, you write that you heared Dr. Lake how can you hear a person that is death since 1935.

He was never a Dr. that make his church.

There you write that you have heard this bastard!

Liveair: An EVANGELIST WANNA-BE who sticks with christian propaganda as thought him by defenders of their source of economic strength and power - Religion.
Believe me, you know NOTHING about "sedimentology". You are a lay-man.

Where is your proof that a flood previously covered the ancient Pyramids which are older than your Noah's flood?

To enlighten you, have you heard of Dried-up rivers or Lakes? These are regions that became dry as a result of Desertification and Droughts.
Again, ancient Volcanic activities have been recorded to have dried waters up. These account for the sediments you now claim as evidence. Pls read more.

Am sure you didn't know there was an ICE AGE, which had also melted, covering large regions. Glacial Outbursts, Ocean Surge and Tsunami have all taken place previously and not found to have covered the earth.

Am very sure you are not even aware of 35,000 year old Mamoths found in Siberia or fossils of Prehistoric Trees older than 200,000,000 years. All these are far older than your biblical creation story which dates the world at 6,000 years.

Do well to prove to us that a World-Wide water covered the Earth in 2350BC or there about.
I can't understand why you guys are so resistant to superior information and arguement.

Zikdik: So, he throws fact away and believes thrash simply because you said it?
Typical Christian.

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Finally.

I related the train of discuss so far to help the reader comprehend the true meat of the discussion.

I will return to give my submission to the above BTGoG.

damilarelr: @Goshen360
@Christembassy
@Drummaboy
sorry I mentioned you, but you are going to love this topic.

Liveair: Really?
There is no evidence of the first destruction of the world by the flood of Noah (as bible recorded) from several researches, even in the Pyramids which are older than Noah.
Remains of Ancient Trees over 200,000 000 years in regions of Nova Scotia, Canada were found not to have been immersed in any flood and are even older than biblical creation.
Carcases of 35,000 year old Mamoths in Northern Siberia have been found not ever submerged in any flood.
With these facts its safe to say that your quoted biblical prophecy of doom is just fable.

DrummaBoy: I have done that, my dear, and found no such scripture that said or implied "Jesus gathered people to heal them" or operated a healing school. If you cannot provide the scripture, we must conclude that you are wrong to say Jesus gathered people for healing services and that the healing school operated by WOF adherents has no foundation in scripture.

DrummaBoy: OK. Thank you Image.

Another question please: Can we authoritatively say that Jesus ever "gathered people to heal them?" Can we find any biblical account for this? Are you saying Jesus gathered people exclusively for healing exercises like these WOF chaps do in their healing schools?

This is an all in one question.

nora544: You know that this Dr lake died 1935 and at time he was in america, please stop to tell such lies.

He has never and I say never a University degree!

DrummaBoy: 1. I suspected it. Thanks for being honest though. My advice: read that document even if it will be the last you will ever read from Nora. It way beyond false report. It provides further documents you can verify with. You won't find that in Lakes own books.

2. The question was whether Christ operated healing "schools" not whether healing can occur though believers or not.