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Christianity Etc › Re: Faith Healers Who Couldn't Heal Themselves. by Image123(m): 5:53pm On Sep 06, 2014
Weah96: So basically a little girl with stage four leukemia right now is left with only the healing power of science developed by her fellow human beings, right?

It also means that the faith healers around today are ALL a bunch of FRAUDS.
It means that you lack the ability for basic comprehension. He asked when God will heal ALL, that essentially means no more sickness. God heals today.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Image123(m): 2:00pm On Sep 06, 2014
Bitterness and strife would greatly hamper your cause.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m):
DrummaBoy: What's your thoughts on this?

"I just want to encourage every one of us to realize when we obey God, we're not doing it for God—I mean, that's one way to look at it—we're doing it for ourselves, because God takes pleasure when we're happy. That's the thing that gives Him the greatest joy. So, I want you to know this morning: Just do good for your own self. Do good because God wants you to be happy. When you come to church, when you worship Him, you're not doing it for God really. You're doing it for yourself, because that's what makes God happy Amen?" (The congregation applauds) - Victoria Osteen.

^^^
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard - Bill Cosby.

www.crosswalk.com/blogs/christian-trends/victoria-osteen-takes-worship-of-god-to-new-low-it-s-all-about-you.html?fb_action_ids=10152623264883632&fb_action_types=og.comments&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B711823402225978%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.comments%22%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
The verses below suggest similar i think.
Proverbs 9:12 If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.

Ecclesiastes 6:7 All the labour of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.

Proverbs 16:26 He that laboureth laboureth for himself; for his mouth craveth it of him.

Job 22:3, 21 and some few other passages also come to mind. The point is don't be crass or cocksure in judging others, even sinners. We're all made in God's image.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m): 8:04am On Sep 06, 2014
Gombs: Come out clean? Tis like u don't know DB.. he'd rather deactivate his account than admit guilt! Tis really appalling to see 'true gospel preachers' act in really dishonest ways, yet they would be the first ones to nail someone else on the cross of their hypocrisy.

This is my first post on this thread, and I really wish DB and his new moniker would be a bit conscientious and bury their heads in shame.
Come to think of it, winsomex or whatever has being conspicuously silent on the allegation, yet he and his likes would be fuming inwardly and foaming outwards when MOGs are seemingly silent on accusations. Double standards.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith Healers Who Couldn't Heal Themselves. by Image123(m): 9:01pm On Sep 05, 2014
mazaje: Are you making things up?. . .I thought Jesus in the bible said that what ever you ask in his name he will do it as long as you truly believe?. . .He even promised you guys the ability to do more wonders that what was written about him. . .No where does it say that healing will take place after any rapture. .
You asked when God would heal ALL the children in the world and i told you when.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m): 8:59pm On Sep 05, 2014
DrummaBoy: Find out...

*singing Omowumi*

If you ask me... na who I go ask...
the matter wey you see so... e tey when it start...
no be me go talk am... e heavy for mouth...
If you ask me... the matter for ground... na who I go ask...

trumpeting...

*pa pa pa...*
#repeat#

If you ask me ... na who I go ask...
Are you aware Seun says it's against forum rules to operate multiple accounts? Dis grace is not a license to be lawless oh. As a christian, learn to come out clean if you are, instead of forming shady. i have a thousand better things to find out BTW than some pa pa pa.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m): 8:42pm On Sep 05, 2014
DrummaBoy: *singing Omowumi*

If you ask me... na who I go ask...
the matter wey you see so... e tey when it start...
no be me go talk am... e heavy for mouth...
If you ask me... the matter for ground... na who I go ask...

trumpeting...

*pa pa pa...*

#repeat#

If you ask me ... na who I go ask...
i don't understand what you just said or the context. It's a simple yes or no answer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith Healers Who Couldn't Heal Themselves. by Image123(m): 8:37pm On Sep 05, 2014
mazaje: LOL!. . .I said when will your god heal all the children living in this world with down syndrome, i don't need your opinion about some fictitious rapture. . .Just need to know why your god can not do anything about down syndrome. . .
i told you when, AFTER the rapture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Image123(m): 8:13pm On Sep 05, 2014
debosky: No he didn't really - he is doing the usual duplicitous talking out of both sides of his mouth.

If Jesus fulfilled all the 'ceremonial' (I didn't see that term in my own bible by the way) law then how can you use a Malachi which refers to a 'ceremonial' storehouse/temple?

The same temple Jesus tore the veil in two is the one Malachi is based on and is the same 'house' that is spoken of. If my body is now the temple (i.e. the house) why is Ola not paying his tithe to me? cheesy

Pick-and-chooseism of the highest order.
The ceremony laws were observed FOR justification, to be clean or holy. Today, Jesus does that. If anyone's going to observe any such laws, it's not for justification as that would be redundant. It's like using the abacus machine today. There's something better than the abacus. Tithes is not or should not be for justification.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith Healers Who Couldn't Heal Themselves. by Image123(m): 8:07pm On Sep 05, 2014
mazaje: When will your god heal all the children in the world suffering from down syndrome?. . .
After the rapture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Image123(m): 7:41pm On Sep 05, 2014
debosky: Not at all - all I'm doing is exposing Ola's selective application of 'all scriptures are divinely inspired' - why abide by Malachi tithe+curse ostensibly for maintenance of the priesthood/support of the ministry and ignore wave offerings and heave offerings?

Why pick-and-choose and not apply all? Is the Malachi scripture more inspired than the one about fabrics?
okay good.
He's answered you i think.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m): 7:34pm On Sep 05, 2014
DrummaBoy: trustman and BabaGnoni,

we must work on concluding this project.

While updating the links to the topics on page 0, I noticed there were 8 pages btw F12 and F13. Who do we blame for this: Candour and mbaemeka or the Catholics. Lol.

Ok. Enough recess...
It's not recess, it's just that people found time to ask questions and challenge your opinions. A thing which you don't want, just like some of the folks you criticize and condemn. Did you open another nairaland account?
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith Healers Who Couldn't Heal Themselves. by Image123(m): 3:57pm On Sep 05, 2014
Jesus works miracles today and it is not out of place for scoffers to pout "physician, heal yourself". They did it to Jesus too. It's no surprise, the surprise is professing christians coming out to mock and scorn and gloat over other people's seeming misfortune. It is God that heals ultimately, not men. The fact however remains that God uses men to heal others.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Image123(m): 3:23pm On Sep 05, 2014
debosky: All scripture or pick-and-chooseism? Do you wear clothes made with multiple fabrics? Do you take your wave offerings and heave offerings to the accepted locations and offer them?
Olaaaaaaaa, your grammar wan wound me oh, lol.
Debo, are you implying that those scriptures are not divinely inspired?
Politics › Re: Lagos Owes $1bn Of States’ $3bn External Debts by Image123(m): 11:57am On Sep 05, 2014
lilprinze: APC states just borrowing and owing money anyhow since 19bc, so owing large depths is their own way of progressing their states huh??
However, in comparison to the nation’s total
external indebtedness, the states owe only 32.13
per cent; leaving the Federal Government with
67.87 per cent of the total $9.38bn.


Learn not to politicize everything you hear. Is the FG also APC?
Science/Technology › Re: Asteroid To Pass Close To Earth On Sunday by Image123(m): 11:41am On Sep 05, 2014
AFOHYBEE: So shuld I start runing up and down matchaw....
No, thank pdp and Goodluck Jonathan for this privilege.


expect silly text messages telling people to switch off their phones or stay indoors or something more ridiculous.
Politics › Re: Jonathan’s Support Groups Now 8,000 – Presidency by Image123(m): 11:55pm On Sep 02, 2014
7lives: Are you for real?, these sales promoters are probably on a daily pay as you go basis and I heard it from the grapevine that people are even bribing their way into this rubbish because they need money, honestly speaking, this country is finished.
That's bad and unacceptable. The height of politicizing in this past few years has being incredulous compared to even prior governments that we say are worst.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time To Win Against Ebola. by Image123(op): 11:47pm On Sep 02, 2014
2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Yahweh fail in his Promise To Abraham? by Image123(m): 11:16pm On Sep 02, 2014
macof: Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syriahuh
@OP. Of course not. Knowledge of God or the Bible shows that God does His part and man has to do his too.God gave them all that since the days of Joshua. Same way today God has given us ALL things needed for life and godliness. Play your part, it is unto you according to your.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help Me To Explan This Verse by Image123(m): 11:01pm On Sep 02, 2014
mirob: This verse is confusing, I will bless who I want to bless and show mercy upon who I will show mercy. Also it is not he that runneth, it is God that showeth mercy. I don't understand it, does it mean that we should stop praying and stressing our selves because all efforts will be in vain if God does not decide to bless and show us mercy.
https://www.nairaland.com/1330225/salient-points-epistle-romans/6#18139481
Christianity Etc › Re: Top Nigerian Shut To Be Killed By B.H, Obama To Be Hospitalised- T.B Joshua by Image123(m): 10:53pm On Sep 02, 2014
Is this fortune telling?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is This Type Of Fasting Acceptable? by Image123(m): 10:48pm On Sep 02, 2014
seggexco: My brethen in the house, i want ur contributn towards this type of fasting and i wnt u to tel me if it is acceptable b4 God.

I knw many of us would av also experience sametn i am talking abt. I went 2 PG[Prayer Ground] yestaday, on getting there, a day fasting and prayer was declared.

It ws declared together wit sum rules. [1] It's beta 4 u nt to take it as a joke, if u av nt bin fastng b4 try as much as posible to do ds one 4rm 6-3pm, or to 12pm, jst make sure u r part of it.
[2] if u knw u dnt do it @all it's beta u dnt come so dt u wun't destroy our prayer.

Now here is the problem, i already determined to take it 6-3pm, bt along the way around 12:06pm.......i jst went out of the rum & meet a frnd eating groundnut, guy hwfa nah, make we chop groundnut. He gave it 2 me & i ate it. What! Sumtn jst rang in my brain, oh no! I jst rem i'm fasting. It ws so painful bt d did is done.
I with anger broke d fastng, nd neva went to the PG cos d rule is if u dnt do it @all it's beta u dnt cum so as nt to spoil our prayer. Although, i did it to 12pm bt since my intention ws taking it to 3pm, i am afraid to go cos i wuldn't wnt problm 4 myself.

This is whr i want u guys to cum in, if u ar fastng & u ate sumtn along the way unknowingly[nt intentionally] bt it hapen u broke it by eating due to the fact that u 4got or sumtn else. Is the fasting still acceptable cos sum wuld say since u did nt do it intentionally u cn continue. Wht's ur say dear NL.
something is so foundationally wrong. There's nothing called destroying someone else prayer i think. Fasting is more than a religious routine.
Christianity Etc › Re: Opinion$ On Oyakhilome's Divorce by Image123(m): 8:17pm On Sep 02, 2014
Gombs: i believe this is rhetorical, but let me watch him deny it...then i'd set to work on proving it (if it's even worth proving)! if they not same fine, but if they are (which am 92% sure)... hmmmm grin
#ComputerScientist grin grin
i was hoping he'd answer. His friend Kunle thinks it wrong not to come out and refute an allegation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Opinion$ On Oyakhilome's Divorce by Image123(m): 7:34am On Sep 02, 2014
WinsomeX: Please understand a point: it is one thing to err on a matter or even a couple of matters. It is another thing to live a life of errors!

The former can happen to the greatest of saints and even before he asks for forgiveness, the blood cleanses him already. The latter is the lot of demons and false prophets.

Therefore if a man teaches doctrines and at the same lives in perpetual error, those doctrines should be held circumspect.

See this:

1John 3:9 from three versions of scripture:

KJV: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

NIV: No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

AMP: No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God’s nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.

Did you get the picture?
Are you drummaboy?
Politics › Re: “where Is Gwoza Sef?” Jonathan Asks At Meeting With Emir by Image123(m): 12:35am On Sep 02, 2014
Tolexander: Being a president of a nation as big and diverse as Nigeria doesn't automatically qualify one to have the absolute knowledge of the whole horizontal and spatial entity governed.

How many of you castigating the President have the prior knowledge of Gwoza before the Boko Haram issue?

The problems with the president on the issue are;
he shouldn't have asked the question in such manner, 'where is Gwoza self'
and
with all the events in Gwoza in the past few months, he is still naive of the location. That is too bad!
It is unacceptable nonchalance. Even if Gwoza has NEVER being in the news, it is basic that if the president is meeting a person, he should be briefed prior knowledge on who he's meeting, from where, why. This is basic courtesy. Not to then imagine how central the place is in the insurgency news, how they lost an emir in May etc.
Politics › Re: “where Is Gwoza Sef?” Jonathan Asks At Meeting With Emir by Image123(m): 12:27am On Sep 02, 2014
SeaGold: Nigeria have over 900+ local government and thousands of towns, villages, hamlets and how do you expect a president to know them all?

Even in Bayelsa I don't think he knows everywhere except the prominent areas. People should endeavour to stop this malicious attack!
Boko haram invaded Nigerian territory and declared it their headquarters, the president ought to show more concern and sharpness. He has all these numerous aides that should keep him informed and abreast. This is school boy error if true.
Politics › Re: Jonathan’s Support Groups Now 8,000 – Presidency by Image123(m): 10:20pm On Sep 01, 2014
The government should discourage these sycophants.
Christianity Etc › Re: Opinion$ On Oyakhilome's Divorce by Image123(m): 9:45pm On Sep 01, 2014
i'm wondering why windowsx or what's the name is following Gnoni, trustm and candor. Not to mention that he just opened this new account yesterday and is dedicated to one goal. Are you not one hell of a suspect? As a christian, have you taken anytime no matter how little to pray or do anything christian for this couple than to glory in others' trials?
Christianity Etc › Re: Brethren, Help Me List Prayer Points That Move Heaven. by Image123(m): 9:13pm On Sep 01, 2014
There is nothing like prayer points that move heaven. God don't do magic where a particular phrase or sound has to be said and the thing clicks tada. God responds to your faith in Him. Ask Him what you want in faith and according to His will.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m): 4:29am On Sep 01, 2014
trustman: Those who will listen will listen!
Acts 28: - 25 They disagreed among themselves and began to leave after Paul had made this final statement: “The Holy Spirit spoke the truth to your ancestors when he said through Isaiah the prophet:

26 “‘Go to this people and say,
“You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.”
27 For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’[a]

28 “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”
Listen to what exactly? Gnoni and drumb couldn't answer that, maybe you can.
Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by Image123(m): 11:11pm On Aug 31, 2014
BabaGnoni: ^^^
He knows that, but just watch, you'll see the angle he's going to come out from
What is this blanket yada yada? Of course, the reply has to have an angle.
Anyways, i read the Nora pdf (drumb take note). i believe John Lake above his accusers. The accusations don't add up on many fronts.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Image123(m): 12:42am On Aug 31, 2014
debosky: Sir, in the context of the verse you quoted, no. That scripture is simply telling you to value your soul above collecting worldly possessions - the term 'profit' there was used to juxtapose the temporary value of worldly possessions versus eternal life. It involves no 'investment' - the only requirement to have eternal life is to believe.
Faith is an investment, a life time investment. This is what makes the believer wise and the unbelievaber foolish.


I don't know what you mean by 'profitable' in this context so care to explain?
Profitable as in wise. The same context Jesus talked about profit and loss.

I didn't say you mentioned money, but Ola's article did - that is what I responded to.
in your prior post to me, you mentioned money twice in a way insinuating that i was only referring to money.

Are you being disingenuous or genuinely mistaken? His article has money all over it - in fact he mentioned money and materials. Furthermore his second article he posted in response to my post is focused PRIMARILY on money. Let's not beat around the bush here.

Please re-read the article I responded to.
What do you think? The first article could easily be anything including money. Sorry for the oversight however, perhaps i wasn't critic-looking for money when reading. Just saw the second article.
Again, It is a timeless scriptural truth that if one sows bountiful, he will reap bountiful, GOD is not mocked.

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