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mazaje: Mass murderers like Moses, Jehu, David, Elijah, Joshua etc in the bible that were alleged to hand down your own god's moral codes are different from Stalin how?. . .

It borders on ignorance or extreme thoughtlessness to compare Stalin to those men above. Perhaps, Obama and Bush are no different from Stalin to you as well since they are also involved in wars. Dunno which Jehu you are referring to, and his 'crimes'. but as for the rest (Moses, David, Elijah and Joshua) i can vouch for them as excellent men , more excellent than you will ever be as an atheist. They are different from you and Stalin as they believe in Jehovah God. Stalin didn't believe in God, he was self centred and accountable to no one, as it were. These men were rulers and conquerors accountable to God and not self-centred like Stalin and all atheists.
-How Stalin who imprisoned several million people in correction labour camps is comparable to Moses or David or Elijah or Joshua beats the imagination and leaves much to be desired.
-Stalin had a cult of personality, calling himself names like (Father of Nations, Brilliant genius of humanity, Gardener of Human Happiness, Liberator of nations, Life and Sun), naming several places and prizes after himself, several statues of himself, and forcing his name into the national anthem. None of the righteous men you named did these. Hopefully, you can see how they are different.
-Stalin was a communist, condemned on numerous occasions in his lifetime and after his death, regarded worldwide as a tyrant and dictator, a notrious bank robber and a ransom kidnapper, an extortionist. None of those godly men did any of these. Perhaps you may now spot the difference.
- Ever heard of Stalin's forced collectivization, where he starved peasants until it was common sight to see their dead bodies on the streets? Where it was a crime to be found eating or gleaning? A time when millions were dying of hunger and Stalin was exporting grain and refusing to release grain reserves to the populace, also forcing and preventing staving peasants from fleeing? Ever read or heard of stalin's Holodomor, a catastrophic famine that led to the death of millions? Have you heard about the Great Purge where hundreds of thousands were executed by Stalin in rigged show-trials and forced confessions and torture, all in a bid to consolidate the authority of Joseph Stalin? you see no difference between such a man and Elijah, Joshua, David and Moses? You're more pathetic than i thought. Goes to show the kind of heart that atheists have, and what they would do without batting an eyelid or having as much as a guilty conscience if given the opportunity of power, or determining right and wrong. When one sees Stalin's actions as normal and equal to the lives of King David and Moses, thee is cause for worry. These are the people we are giving and clamouring rights for. May God save us.

Why are you not praying right now when the Bible says we should pray without ceasing? When you answer that, i will answer your question.

Frank, are you also a christain?

What God wants is cheerful giving, not necessarily freewill giving. A man said I will not give God what will COST me nothing, he was going to give something that would 'pinch' him. These things are readily and easily understood by practical givers, not just theory based antitithers.

debosky: I am sorry but yes and no isn't a credible answer - if giving is not freewill, then by definition it is mandatory/compulsory. If tithing is not different from freewill giving, then they must be the same.

Christ's sacrifice on Calvary was freely given even though it was not freewill giving, hopefully you realize and understand that.

Logicboy03: True*

Is the statement exclusive?

Logicboy03: <<<<<<

To the left!


NEXT!

i'm glad i taught you directions, was afraid you were past learning. Now, can you answer my questions?

Logicboy03: Truth is not exclusive.

Is this statement truth?

Logicboy03: lmao.....you didnt fail logic, logic failed you!


How you arrived at that conclusion beats me.....

It's a question, not a conclusion. You need to appreciate the value of question marks. Do you agree that truth is exclusive?

Logicboy03: Is your mother a prosti****?

That is also a simple question.


Moral of the story;

A simple question can also be a venomous but veiled attackt

nope she isn't. Now can you answer my questions?
watch your b.p I advice, and beware of suicidal tendencies.

InesQor: Bros abi na Sister, you no need this kind rofo rofo language walahi.

wouldn't take him too seriously.

Logicboy03: You are really silly.

Someone is standing up to intolerance and bigotry and you are calling him intolerant? (putting "just asking" to hide your evil intent makes no difference)


The worst part of it is that you are not a fundamentalist muslim- a christian calling someone who is against gender segregation "intloerant"


Is this how much you hate atheists?

i asked a simple question and you're almost in a seizure. Can't you relate sociably with theists? What is the meaning of intolerance?

Logicboy03: Everyone. Truth is universal.

Therefore, anything not exclusive to everyone and anything universal is truth? like Christianity, Islam and atheism?

it's deadly to leave the likes of Stalin to determine what is right and what is wrong.

hehehe, the beginning of the Bible ko.

is this krauss not intolerant? just asking.

Logicboy03: I know what "exclusive" means. However, something has to be exclusive to something.

Religion to unbelievers

God to athiests.


Asking if my comment is exclusive makes no sense. Exclusive to what?

Truth is not exclusive to what?

Logicboy03:

exclusive to what?

Religions are exclusive to unbelievers.

How is my statement exclusive? To who or what?

Calm down, you don't want to rupture anything at your tender age. i said truth is exclusive, you said truth is not exclusive. Now, i'm asking to know if your statement is exclusive. You know the meaning of the word 'exclusive', right?

Pastor Kun: Captured for posterity!

Why not put your posterity in safer hands, like God's? Why are you holding on to my words for your posterity? Am I your god?

debosky: Do I? Why reference a thread talking about righteousness required to enter heaven and link it to tithes? What is the obvious idea that will be comprehended from such a linkage?

I remember you asking for a 'concise' response from Goshen - what is the concise meaning that people will take from your post?

You're one of the desperate ones i described though i didn't initially picture you as also shameless. Do you have any idea on the concept of the Christian being justified? The meaning you should take from my post is what it says, not what you wish it says. It says christians should live on a higher level than the Pharisees. Your pal was hinting that Christians were free to live below the old covenant standards.

christemmbassey: @debosky, bookmark, candour,zikky,bidam and image123, thanks guys for de mature discussion and congratulations for accepting that every act of giving including tithe in the church is and should be 'freewilll' instead of 'obligatory', no vanquish no victor. Now @ Bidam and Image123, if i earn N100,000 and i pay 15k as my tithe, will God accept it? God bless.

Are you a child of God? i ask because I'm told that God is not interested in the sacrifice of fools.

Logicboy03: I dont understand what you are asking

you said,

Logicboy03: Truth is not exclusive.


However, religions and cults are exclusive and segregationist

And I'm asking you if that statement is exclusive, so is it?

Logicboy03:

oh, you got stumped? Answer the question, or hopefully you now agree to sane logic?

debosky: Just what do you think you were suggesting with this post here?



Are you not equating the righteousness required to enter the kingdom of heaven as justification for tithing? Like I said earlier, you need to be careful in your 'zealousness'.

you need to be careful with your comprehension.

Candour: Dont generalise.you might know but we have more Christians that do not know.This thread even confirms it with all the threats on non tithers.Name one pastor that says what you said below



i can bet even your pastor has never said that on his pulpit before.

Let us sound the truth far and near that a Christian is not under whatever curse pronounced in Mal 3:8-10.Let us get God's children free of guilt inspired Christianity.

you can bet what my pastor has ever said? you must be quite talented then. I'll assume you agree that tithes, prayers, giving, church attendance, Bible study are in the same class.

Zikkyy: If I make my own box or bag available, are you willing to drop your tithe in it? Who owns the bag or box you drop your tithe? Does it belong to the body of believers or the pastor? The owner of the box is the beneficiary of your tithe. And that beneficiary just might be the pastor making you a proper mumu.

The box often belongs to the church and is usually handled by church 'accountants', not pastors. You're imagining things, you need rest.

Hell has enlarged her mouth, Heaven beckons.

Logicboy03: Truth is not exclusive.


However, religions and cults are exclusive and segregationist

is your statement exclusive or my opinions can go along?

Behold, all souls are God's. He's perfectly in order with whatever He decides to do with every soul.The angels in heaven are not complaining.

ezme: This leads to the burning question. How do you love someone you cannot/have not see(n)? Most people would love to argue that they have fallen in love with strangers on social media and the likes. If only most Christians would not take the hypocritical path, most of our relationships with God is actually a monologue. "Most nights I talk to God, but he don't say nothing back" - 50cent.

perhaps, because he's a sinner or a liar which is still a sinner.

Candour: i like your reply Image.have you ever quoted Mal 3:8-10 to convince someone to tithe? Do you think it's right to threaten a believer whose righteousness is Christ with devourers? Consider the bolded in your reply

All Scripture is inspired by God and useful for the Christian to teach and instruct. All that is needed is a balanced teaching, many Christians know that giving tithe does not buy them eternal life or turn them righteous.

mazaje: Submit to Allah as a loyal slave and avoid hell. . . .When you die you will know. . .You have been warned. . .

i laugh as i await your next question that would finally convince you that there is no God. Meanwhile, stop exhibiting agberoism. It's the compelling act of calling passengers into a vehicle without plans to follow the vehicle.