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TheMoniker:

I remember 2004 when this guy was a top political thug in Abeokuta. His name was on everyone’s lip as he was on a killing spree during Gbenga Daniel’s regime. He left for Oyo during the end of OGD’s regime and he won a sit in the house of rep.
He who kill by the sword will surely die by the sword. I feel no pity for him. Thue!

Haaa...this is not true Oga...i dont support politicians but this was never a political thug, he's bn in Oyo politics since 2003. Infact he was a Local Government Chairman for 2 terms before proceeding to Fed. House.Please stop spreading lies around...

So you people do not know that it was an Igbo man behind the account before?

Pearly255:
Canada here I come... F**k Sickbuhari and his followers.

Please take me along...

Coldplay007:
This rule does not work in Lagos. You need to consider distance from your place of work and transport fare.
Some people wake up 4am every morning and travel for 3 hours to get to the office just because they want to save on rent..

They will end up spending more on transport and their health..

Madam, that rule works in lagos wella....It is financially suicidal to be working for 3 months out of 12 for your landlord in a year.

People should stop trying to impress people who don't care....My rent is 200k and I earn multiple of that monthly but I don't care cos I gat no one to impress

placeofallure:
How many will i count? ι ωαѕ νєяу вα∂ ∂υяιиg му ¢αмρυѕ ∂αуѕ. тнє тнιиg вє ѕαу мєи иσ ∂єу qυι¢к нєαя ωσя∂. σиє мαи тнєи мαяяιє∂, ωαитє∂ тσ '¢нσρ there' ι нαтє тσ ∂αтє тнєм then ¢σѕ тнє тнιиg ωσυℓ∂ ℓєα∂ иσωнєяє. αfтєя α ℓσт σf ∂ιѕтυявαи¢єѕ, ι αgяєє∂ тσ gσ σи α ∂αтє ωιтн нιм. му fяιєи∂ѕ ωнσ αℓѕσ ∂συвℓє∂ αѕ му яσσммαтєѕ ωєяє єανєѕ∂яσρριиg, and they inνιтє∂ тнємѕєℓνєѕ. ιи нιѕ ∂єѕρєяαтισи, нє αgяєє∂.
ωє ωєит συт. ωє ωєяє α gяσυρ σf fσυя gιяℓѕ αи∂ нє тσσк υѕ αℓℓ συт. ωє ραιитє∂ тнє тσωи яє∂. нє ¢συℓ∂ αffσя∂ ιт.ωє ωєит тσ αвσυт 3 ρℓα¢єѕ αℓℓ σf υѕ ʝυѕт тσ ιмρяєѕѕ мє. ωє ρα¢кє∂ тαкє αωαу , єиσυgн тσ gινє αℓℓ тнє вσуѕ ιи συя уαя∂. ωє αи∂ the boys joked about it. ωє ραятє∂ ωαуѕ ωιтн нιм ωιтн α ρяσмιѕє тσ ∂σ ιт αgαιи тнє fσℓℓσωιиg єνєиιиg.
тнє иєχт єνєиιиg, so we heard, тнєу ¢αмє ιи αи єиνσу σf fσυя ¢αяѕ. нє'ѕ вяσυgнт мαт¢нєѕ fσя му fяιєи∂s ωнєи нє ιѕ иσт συя fαтнєя σ. мєαиωнιℓє, му fяιєи∂ѕ αи∂ ι нα∂ ℓєfт fσя ℓαgσѕ єαяℓier ιи тнє мσяиιиg. тнαт ωαѕ нσω fσυя ι∂ισтѕ мα∂є α fσσℓ σf тнємѕєℓνєѕ.

ι иєνα мєαи яєα¢н, ωє fσя αяяαиgє мαкє вσуѕ σвтαιи тнєм ѕєf!

тнαт'ѕ нσω αиσтнєя σиє ωιℓℓ αℓωαуѕ ∂ιѕтυяв мє ωιтн ¢αℓℓѕ αи∂ мєѕѕαgєѕ. ι'∂ вℓσ¢к нιм, нє'ℓℓ υѕє αиσтнєя иυмвєя. ѕσ ι ѕαι∂ иσ мσяє gєттιиg fяυѕтяαтє∂ σνєя нιѕ ¢αℓℓѕ. αиу тιмє нє ¢αℓℓѕ иσω, ι ʝυѕт ρяєѕѕ тнє gяєєи вυттσи αи∂ αℓℓσω нιѕ яєѕσυя¢єѕ тσ ωαѕтє. уσυ ∂σи ¢αℓℓ уσυя мαмα яєα¢н? иσвσ∂у тσℓ∂ нιм вєfσяє нє ѕтσρρє∂.

This sounds funny from hindsight..but i'll advice ladies to be careful with men/guys. You ladies have more to loose. If that guy had decided to treat your Bleep up by organizing a rape and kidnap party for you, imagine the kind of effect that would have had on you for life. When you don't want a guy, tell him and if he isn't listening, block his number. Many girls have played smart and are living to regret it today. It won't be your portion though.

safarigirl:
I hope you do not have sex outside marriage. I hope you are a virgin and will remain so until after marriage. I hope you are not one of those who proposes that there must be sex in a relationship.

A lot of you preach one thing online, but in reality, the thing separating you from your own Anna Banner is condom and postinor 2.

Maybe the plan of Anna's orchestrator is for her to be a baby mama, have you thought of that? What if some people are destined to be babymamas? Honestly, the grandstanding on social media is comical.

I am not contradicting myself, you just do not understand what I am trying to say and I suppose I cannot make you understand because we can only understand so much as people. Same way you cannot understand why Anna is with Flavor and you will never be able to understand it because you are not Anna.

What you can do though, is be proactive and make sure you do not engage in the same things that has led Anna to where she is, you can make sure you respect another person's daughter, you can make sure you do not allow the moral decadence influence you, because what I have realised is that most peoppe who are quick to mention moral decadence are all talk and no action. The same people want a woman to be pregnant before they marry her, the same people think sex is more important than food.


This is the internet though, a lot of people have a different identity here than in reality


PS: Read about freewillists and determinants in sociology to have an understanding of different people and read about how some acts in one's childhood or youth could affect their decisions as adults, because you seem to assume that phases of a person's life can be disconnected

Lol I wish I could type all my objections but unfortunately no. I'm too lazy to do that. Maybe that's why verbal discussions are lot more easier, having to type one's opinion can't even be satisfying as trail of thought can even be lost while typing. But then once again I respect your views...

safarigirl:
you have erroneously thought that with age comes sense or a certain level of epiphany.

The thing with emotional manipulation is that you can be in that prison most of your life and you will never realise it is bad. This is like asking someone who suffers domestic violence, "He hit you the first time, why didn't you leave?" Or asking someone who was molested, "if he molested you the first time, why allow a second?"

Life is not as cut and dry as it seems. That you have sense does not mean others will. That you don't steal doesn't mean someone else won't. You cannot even understand the rationale behind such actions, because you are wired differently, but there are people in severe bondage that may never realise they are in bondage.

This world is a funny place. When you want to do things the right way, they laugh at you and mock you, but when you do things in the way of the world, the same people castigate you and put you down. All the people that aren't sleeping around and having babies, how many of them can say with their chest that they are truly doing better than Anna?

Lol...you just keep contradicting yourself...you initially defended her by stating she was at a time "a teenager" hence the reason for her action. But you have come out to say now that age and a person's stage of life might not be a total determinant of their actions.

What do you mean by doing better? this is the problem with the world and level of moral decadence in the society we live in. We have defined new standards for ourselves. We have misinterpreted freedom and rights. The world civilization has given people crazy thoughts about themselves and lives. The very first error about human existence is the fallacy that we can choose to live our lives the way we want. Maybe if an individual can determine how we got in to this world, maybe it was out of an individual's volition, then maybe once can choose to live whatever way one likes. But anyone who has no knowledge of how he/she found himself in this terrestrial realm shouldn't think he/she ahs got the right on how to live here...and anything outside the plan of the orchestrator of our existence here isn't a better life.

safarigirl:
see, this is why we say it is a man's world, men can do anything and get away with it, but women are not extended the same thing.

There are men who have stayed with a woman who uses them repeatedly, but women are not prone to do that because they are emotional beings and naturally care more than men.

Willingness to do something is a thing of the mind, that is why i mentioned emotional manipulation, that is why i also mentioned how young Anna was when she got with Flavor, but you and many others fail to factor some of these things and just assume she likes being used like this.

Anyway, we are not privy to the dynamics of their relationship, I used to insult Anna and call her silly for reducing herself, but I have gotten to that stage where I don't think I have any right to criticise someone's life decisions, I can only wonder why. Maybe she thinks she will end up like her name sake, Ann Idibia, so, she can hold on and very soon, you people will stop calling her babymama and start calling her Flavor's wife


I have my own problems, at least Anna has a man and a child, some of us may never get either, so, who we be?

Even if I don't agree with your view, I respect them. So if Anna was a teenage after the first pregnancy, she's still a teenager for allowing the second one. The second pregnancy invalidate any reason for the first one, the second only confirms the reason behind the first one. it is all a case of a broken morally inclined society.

But your submission seem funny to me, It sounded like someone who would love to, but feels bitter she might not be lucky to. Whatever informed that submission, maybe age or something, I'll really like to learn from.

safarigirl:
ladies want which world to give excuse?

This is quite funny, considering that this thread is filked eith men cakking Anna a baby mama and all sorts of names, most of these men have not even considered Flavor's role in it.

The same way when a married man cheats, the world will blame his wife and blame the mistress, but nobody will consider his own role. Men are infallible in the world, women musy be held accountable for both themselves and the men they are with and the few people who want a balanced view will be seen to bw holding brief for the women.


A man and a woman have sex, the woman is a slut and the man is a legend. A marriage crashes, the woman wasn't attentive to the man. A man is abusive, the woman was probanly running her mouth and was disrespectful. A man rapes a woman, she was dressed skimpily, she was asking for it. A man steals, he get girlfriend wey push am to go thief. A man impregnates a woman, na she no close her legs. Kids turn out for the worst, na their mama no train them well.


If there is any gender that constantly wants the world to make excuses for them, it is men. You people should hold yourselves accountable as much as you hold women accountable. You are not babies, you are just as aware of consequences, you can also control your urges, you can be the rational human....do not always expect women to hold you up as much as they hold themselves up. Women have enough trouble being pillars to theie kids, they don't need to hold up grown ass men too.


Black men are particularly experts at blaming women for everything or blaming a system, black men know nothing about responsibility, that is why they litter the world with fatherless kids

If there is any trait I'll applaud you for, it is your ability to deviate from subject of discussion. You totally deviated from the question I asked and went on a MEN ARE ALWAYS PROTECTED rant...again please check my question and type your explanation if you have no answer to it.

But mind you, the reason why Anna and women folk are blamed in a sexual relationship between Mena nd Women is because...Women are the deciders of sexual relationship. No man can have sexual relationship with an unwilling woman, excluding violent means. If Anna had opted out of the relationship and refused consensual sex with Flavour, no matter how wicked and selfish he might be, they wont be in this situation. For you to know how dumb and stupid Anna and are likes are, do you think Flavour would have agreed or even be comfortable sharing Anna with another man? Do you think Flavour would normally agree to have another child with her if she had gone to have a baby for another man?

You see the thinking of "shared blame" that you ladies are always advocating for when issues like this arise wont work, cos women are the C.E.O of female Instruments that houses procreation, women should choose where and when to let have access to it. Cos when questions arise on consequences, ladies would be blamed.

victorian:
I was madly in love with him. He's everything I could wish for in a guy even though he's not rich yet but I simply love his boyish smile, the way he jokes, we talk about almost everything. He's very bold, romantic, not too demanding sexually. He's perfect. He's handsome, tall, dark. And he's a perfect lover.
We talk about everything. We don't get bored with ourselves. And I felt he's the one for me.

I would have accepted like Anna cos I was madly in love. And my business was going so well. The more I spend on him., the more my business progresses. Everything was perfect. I was contemplating opening a biz of his choice for him after wedding. It was meant to be a surprise from me to him.
So at least he will be financially OK by himself

And I won't blame him for making me a baby mama, cos I was so in love, happy and everything was rosy. And I felt our kids will look so cute. And also he's one guy that was bold enough to woo me, face to face with this dazzlingly smile on his face looking straight into my eyes, without fidgeting, unlike most guys that will be scared to even say hi.. Lol.
He's so friendly and charming. Sighs and he doesn't boss me around, at all. In fact then he was also my bestie.

Hmm, that's in the past jare.

My best relationship in the past. Smiles.

Hmmm, truly "ladies are coats of a weird material", only God alone can understand.

victorian:
It almost cloud my senses.

And when he requested I be his baby mama, I was undecided and later I said yes I will, with excitement , joy and uncertainty of what the future holds for us.

But that day I said yes and we agreed that I will get pregnant, that night I dreamt about my dead mum whipping me with koboko, and I was crying mama eh! Am. Sorry ma. She then stopped and looked at me with angry glittering eyes, saying so u want to disgrace my name abi? U want to disgrace my memory! By having a kid without wedlock! I will kill you today. She continued beating me and I screamed mama, I won't go through it again o, I promise I won't o! As I was crying, she stopped and looked at me with a resigned look, sighed with arms on her waist, saying but why spoil your life all for that thing u call bf. Then I woke up sweating with words on my lips, mama am sorry.

Sighs.

The next I called my bf and told him its over between us. I can't do this anymore, unless we are married before I can have a kid and moreover my mum is not in support. My mum almost beat me to death in my dream. He said but she's dead nah! Dead people don't talk! I looked at him with sad eyes. I know she's dead but she's watching every step I take. I'm sorry. that's how I withdrew from him and breakup. He was surprised but that's the end of it. Nothing he said made me go back to him.

Anyways na Anna know jare, she's an adult. So she's free to do whatever she likes with her life. Her parents are not even putting their foot down on her. So it's her choice.

Thank God for coming to miraculously coming to your recue through that dream. But let's take a closer look at your statement up there for honest analyses...

From hindsight, have you asked yourself why you accepted to be a sex slave to someone without any contractual agreement (marriage)?

What could have been responsible for such decision, which you later found out to be a wrong decision?

Should you have accepted, like Anna and the likes have, would you blame the guy who sought your consent for a selfish relationship?

safarigirl:
thank you for this.

So many men do not know what it means to bw trapped in a relationship where you can't move becausw you are living on false hope. Some men can be emotionally manipulative, they give you so much hope and then crash it, but it's like a drug to some women. They get their high from those hopes and when they crash, they are just injected with more hope.

Anna was a teenager when she got with Flavour who is way older. This girl had fame and money, so, what are some people talking about? When you see a woman who could do so much better with a man she has no business with, you should consider why that is so.

Look at Future and Ciara, i never understood why she would be with someone with multiple babymamas. Thankfully, she found love and saw the light with a responsible man amd got married. So many Nigerian men would have berated her and called her Future's baby mama, they would have castigated her like they are castigating Anna and slammed people trying to speak for her as baby mamas.

This country has so many trash people in it

it is sooo laughable to see you say you ain't holding brief for that lady... Damn what you're doing is more than that, infact you're putting up comments like you know are more than herself.

But let me ask you a question, why do Ladies want the world to give an excuse for their actions rather than take responsibilities? Unfortunately the world isn't built that way.

Welldone Richdad and Safarigirl, this morning I choose not to have an opinion but rather read and learn from cerebral people like your lot.

But I have little advise for the two of you and those who hold your views:

@Richdad; as mush as I agree that women, largely hold the key to ensuring children are brought in to a healthy home, we shouldn't put all the blame on them. your comments are so brilliant that it appeared so.


@safarigirl; please everything is not about "Men vs Women" or "Them vs US"... the only way arguments can be value-adding is if we all drop petty sentiments and address issues head-on. Women and Men are not enemies or even competition in the social web of life, rather they are victims at different point and situations in time.

Oh lastly, Richdad, please ignore one bitter lady that quoted you with insults and unprintable comments. It is always safe to avoid people who cant engage in discussions without insult. they hardly make any impact

ceeroh:
I really don't know what to do, I wanna give it a try but at the same time don't want people to see her entering my house.

This is always the issue...there's a girl on my street ive been eyeing for over 2 years. she knows and she's tired of me not approaching her but the problem is, how can I approach her and she'll be coming to my apartment without people seeing her...?

don't worry...experience is the best teacher...yours is on the way...growing up and back then I'm yhe university I never believed in anything called spiritual attack, I tot they were all bull crap....

in 10yrs time you'll ask for this guys and won't find them....

izzou:


Nigeria and being organized are two parallel lines. They can never meet.

As big as the APC is in Lagos, they can't use TBS for a campaign rally, where security can be in full measure...They had to use a field in an already jam-packed Ikeja

Knowing fully well that the NURTW had different factions that were at loggerheads, wasn't it wise to have that checkmated even before the rally?

I just pity for the journalists that were injured.

funny you...as good as your sug3stion looks...who leaves the state capital and go else where to declare a campaign open?

You and I do not need to bother about violence amongst politicians and thugs, we should pray it doesn't consume innocent people. as for politicians and thugs they can kill themselves for all I care...

Honestly, it is becoming very difficult by the day for anyone to say this Buhari guy doesn't have a Northern agenda

Date young girls....18 - 23 yrs....stay away from 30 something

alextayo:
On the best quality of that boy is the ability to think positively and that ability he explore to get result. If a christian says it was God who brought the solution, is Friedrich Nietzsche not right to say that men in actual fact worship his best qualities whenever he worshiped God?

what a deficient theory...he should tell us how man's thoughts created the world....the names of those men that brought/ worked their thought to life...

alextayo:
Friedrich Nietzsche postulated a theory about the non existence of God. He argued that based on the childhood neurosis of a child asking his father for bread, Man in this world created an imaginary who will cater for their needs.

To make this imaginary FATHER potent, Man stripped himself of his best qualities and put it into his imaginary father. Therefore whenever Man worshiped God, he is only worshiping his BEST QUALITIES.

Please mention those qualities he postulated...

@smat 101: I know what you wrote up there is purely metaphorical and your aim is to stimulate valuable discussions that would promote critical, strategic and conceptual thinking etc....

Unfortunately, some people are busy analysing your analogy rather than the objective b3hind it. Hard Mirror puts up such article sometimes.

I for one agree with you completely, there's a place of prayer and a place of thinking...they can't be substituted for each other...prayer wihout work is nothing...the required work starts with deliberate and relevant thinking on situations at hand.

For years Nigerians and Africans at large have continued to discuss the problems in the society,when are we going to start discussing and taking actionable solutions?...situations are changed via deliberate and well thought actions not continuous wyning and crying....

The major problem with Africans is that we hardly think...

I once saw a statistics that scared and got me thinking; it says around 85% of people don't think, around 10% think they are thinking while less than 5% are the ones actually thinking....valuable thinking not mere wishes in this context....

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lykarealrose:
Can I get your contact? Two friends of mine are infected with it.

hello madam, was the Op able to help you if you contacted him at all..

luminouz:
Can I apply
I no dey bleach...maybe sunburned once in a while sha

why not, shebi you dey see advert for your side.

I didn't actually realise that bleaching had become an epidemic until a young lady of 25yrs came to my organisation for an interview. All through the interview session I couldn't but notice her weird looking knuckles. Afterward, I had to confirm from the other person at the interview if my eyes were right, that was how a smart and articulate young lady was dropped not for poor performance but for her mental orientation...it was easy to conclude that a lady with such orientation wouldn't fit in to the Company's corporate culture...she lost a dream job...

NAIRALAND

that's the guy he's preparing to succeed Sanwo-Olu...

hmmmm if you know you know....

But why do men plan for 20 yrs when they.might not even see tomorrow?

Anaedo1:
Mr Political sagacity..
Igbos are naive yet they control the economic life of this country..I live in Festac here in Lagos in a duplex owned by a fellow Igbo man..Your dirty Yoruba brothers live in a crowded 1977 built block of flats..Am the close chairman so i determine what happens in there..Quit the self deceit..How has your political sagacity bettered the lot of Yoruba's?..

Mr Cry Cry baby, just look at your post again and check out if it correlates with the subject of discourse....
Okay, so cos you "squat" in a duplex here in Lagos as an Ibo boy means you and your lots are successful, the way you people reason amazes me. So what about millions of your brothers selling gala and lacasera in traffic in lagos and across Nigeria, do they all squat in a duplex? Your level of iberiberism is beyond imagination...

Listen to me boy , what we are saying is this, Igbos need to learn the art of politics in Nigeria...Nothing is given by emotional cry or sympathy in politics, you work via strategic alignment and show of commitment...I have said it b4 i don't have problem with a competent Ibo president and will even vote for one over an incompetent Yoruba or Hausa candidate.... But it requires a lot of work from you guys which you ain't seeing...drop the hate and cry maybe you'll see clearly what I'm saying...

muykem:
Igbo 2023 is not casting on the stone, their votes and election results of 2019 will to larger extent determine it. If they cast their votes for PDP and APC won, it's a simple maths, you don't eat where you didn't show.

Bros, you don't know the Ibos very well. After casting their support and votes for Atiku/Obi in the coming election and if he looses, they'll turn around and start crying, start giving us a thousand and one reasons why APC that they worked against should hand over the party's presidential ticket to them...you'll see them crying with their usual song everyone hates Igbos.. .

The hypocritic agitation for Biafra would become louder and they'll pretend as if they are the victim rather than the looser that they are....

Have you noticed that the false agitation for Biafra has subsided? Yea it has cos it has never been genuine, it became louder after they lost in 2015, it would increase again after election next year....

Politically, Ibos are the most naive ethnic group in Nigeria, I see South South producing another President b4 then.. .