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Christianity Etc › Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 10:17pm On Nov 17, 2013
Mrlouis: and he came on here saying you guys had a mutual agreement to that respect. Well thats between u both.. But i visited that thread in which he tagged your name in the topic and i saw u dint even start saying he should remove your name. U tried ur very best to defend ur doctrine and churxh belief [b]even though he went at ur back to open a thread in your name.. [/b]Now i did so. He evades my questions and focuses on his name..
Is this 'going behind someone's back?'

Christianity Etc › Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 10:14pm On Nov 17, 2013
Mrlouis: he says he has treated the questions i asked in similar threads yet no link to them.. Hmm.. Yet he doesnt answer the questions.. Am still waiting patiently.. Pls to the other catholics.. Dnt just stand dia abd be gazing.. Kindly reply my questions. Please
Even though I have treated the questions before, I didn't tell you the bold.

Why do you lie?

Should anyone discuss with you if you will lie openly like this?
Christianity Etc › Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 10:09pm On Nov 17, 2013
JMAN05: @italo

your are invited to defend your church teachings.

https://www.nairaland.com/newtopic?board=17
I visited the thread and found nothing but blank space.

...and since you have listed the teachings you want me to defend with a huge gaping blank space...not even a title, I have equally made a detailed response to you with a blank space.

Please go through and let me know any answer you're not satisfied with.

Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: @ITALO. Catholics Please Defend Your Doctrines Here by italo: 9:48pm On Nov 17, 2013
JMAN05: I never told you to form a thread. did I? the thread was your invention. secondly, didn't I warn you about changed teachings? but you brought it still. did that make me to withdraw? OK. I will form a thread now for you. let me see how you will Dodge. you suggested it right?
There's no need to 'merry-go-round.'

If I have done wrong or told a lie on this thread, please point it out.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by italo: 9:34pm On Nov 17, 2013
JMAN05: pickin. I understand your delima. all these has been answered. stop shivering, it won't cure your bp.

https://www.nairaland.com/1506699/jman05-please-defend-jehovahs-witnesses
I dont see answers there. I only see more Watchtower lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 6:08pm On Nov 17, 2013
GeneralShepherd: I didn't blame God, I made that statement the moment the OP tried to see a miracle in a very sad tragedy.the Op tried to score a cheap religious point

My heart and good wishes goes out to the families of the victims and the survivors of the typhoon.

Let's leave the heaven,hell and God debate for another day
I think many Atheists here were being paranoid too early.

The OP didnt even call it a miracle, yet the attacks on believers started.

Abi did I miss something?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 5:40pm On Nov 17, 2013
Ubenedictus: popes honorius and vigilius. If u are discussing papal infallibility be careful when those names appear.
Thanks bro...have to do some reading up.
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 5:39pm On Nov 17, 2013
^^^

So I hope you have learnt something.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Rosary And A Talisman, What Is The Difference? by italo: 5:37pm On Nov 17, 2013
plaetton: Every other poster who posted on that thread knew the meaning of love, except you.
That is your problem, not mine.
Except you.

It's you who could say, not me or any other poster.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 5:35pm On Nov 17, 2013
POPE II: Thank you for your advice and wise words. Happy Sunday.
You're welcome. Happy Sunday.
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 4:52pm On Nov 17, 2013
gnabry: I knew u wuld ask question in reply to my question,ofcourse bible itself is a holy book nd I dnt expect words in it to be false neither m I saying words aside the bible is false,dnt get me wrong,just wanted you to clear urself nd moreova since u said m wierd,why dnt u ansa ma question ,should tonto dike act virgin mary in any movier portrayin ha self given birth to jesus,wuld dat be morally accepted?
I didnt ask this in answer to your question. I have already answered your question earlier.

Now I ask again:

Not all truth is in the Bible. Agreed?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Rosary And A Talisman, What Is The Difference? by italo: 4:41pm On Nov 17, 2013
plaetton: @Italo
If you don't know what love means, then simple google it.
I think it quite silly and mischievious for you to insist on my own definition of love. If by now at your age , you do not understand the meaning of love, that is your problem, not mine.

When I post here , I am under the assurance that readers are capable of reading and understanding simple english.
If the best you can do is claim ignorance of the meaning of love, then it's copout, as would be expected from a conflicted religious mind.
Oh please. Your argument was baseless.

How could you prove that assertion without telling what you meant by love.

You Atheists ask us to explain every detail of our statements all the time...but you cant explain as little as "love."
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 4:36pm On Nov 17, 2013
gnabry: huhwow..I can see u don't und me...when I say moulding a statue and praying towards it BEARING in mind its jesus,I mean in my mynd m praying like as if nothing before me
Well, if your statue draws your mind to Jesus himself, how can that be a bad thing? Although, we Catholics always have our statues blessed by a priest.
gnabry: nd. For '''''we catholics'u answering question with question,not all christains are catholic,,definately some other christains believe the crucifix is jesus
I dont care what other people believe and practise. I speak for Catholicism.
gnabry: nd moreover m not wierd,I find it totally wrong actin like jesus when m not,its just like saying tonto dike shuld be given d role of holy mary,isn't dat totaly wrong? huh
If Tonto Dike acts as Mary and the movie is so inspiring that it converts Tonto herself and many young girls who were trying to be like the old Tonto, is that totally wrong?

By the way, I think you should explain Gal 3:1 to me.
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 4:19pm On Nov 17, 2013
gnabry: no
So everything not written in the Bible is false?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 4:17pm On Nov 17, 2013
cutieemperor007: I PRAY TO YOU OH! GOD THAT YOU TAKE MY LIFE MINITES BEFORE I EVER HAVE THE NOTION TO ASSOCIATED PARTNER WITH YOU OR BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A SON OR THAT YOU ARE JESUS (UR PROPHET)....AMIN

I QUOTED SOME VERSES IN THE BIBBLE WHERE JESUS CATEGORICALLY MADE IT KNOW THAT HE ISN'T GOD AND YOU ALSO QUOTED OTHER VERSES IN THE BIBBLE TOJUSTIFY YOUR BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS GOD WITHOUT ABLE TO DISPROVE MY VERSES OR ITS GENUITY...
I SAY: IF TWO CONTRADICTORY VIEWS CAN BE JUSTIFYED FROM THE BIBBLE, WHAT DOES THAT SAYS ABOUT THE BIBBLE BEEN THE WORLD OF GOD OR CAN GOD'S WORD CONTRADICTE. I EVEN ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN THE VERSES I QUOTED TO ME BEEN A NON CHRISTEN WHO WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR FAITH, RATHER, YOU CHOOSE TO INSULT ME,
TODAY IS SUNDAY FOR GOD SAKE, CAN'T YOU ATLEAST PRETEND TO BE CHRIST LIKE FOR ONCE....
Stop going roundabout.

Do you admit that the Bible tells us Jesus is God?

Or do you want to explain Hebrews 1:8?

Mind you, I still have dozens of verses oh.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 4:13pm On Nov 17, 2013
dorox: I'm sure that apart from any suicidal person that may have been there, all who perished fought their hardest until the last moment to stay alive.
They fought to stay alive doesn't mean that the dead are worse off. And you are not sure all but the suicidal fought their hardest...neither are you in a position to judge those who didnt fight their hardest as suicidal. You're just speculating from your imagination.
dorox: To the orphaned survivor,or the newly wedded widow, I am sure that they will think you stupid if you ask them that question.
The ones in heaven and the survivors who believe in heaven and have filled the Churches to pray for the souls of their loved one will think you stupid too.
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 4:04pm On Nov 17, 2013
gnabry: and do u mean not everything in the bible are true? undecided
Everything in the Bible is true but not every truth is in the Bible.

Do you agree?
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 4:03pm On Nov 17, 2013
gnabry: k.so that means I can mould a statue and pray towards it bearing in mind Its JESUS,
I dont know whether you didnt read or you choose not to understand. Despite my saying the statue isnt Jesus, you still repeat the bolded.
gnabry: I can also act a nollywood movie tagging it "THE BLOOD OF JESUS"wuld be acting as black cast of jesus undecided,I find all this wierd,
What is wrong in acting Jesus? I find YOU weird.
gnabry: if u say during the lifetime of JESUS,there were painters,what of moses,abraham etc,were there no painters during those era
Wetin concern Moses with wetin we dey talk?
gnabry: and I really wish u could explain more on what u meant as "WE CATHOLICS"
By "we Catholics," I mean "we Catholics."

What other explanation do you need?

What does "we Nigerians" mean?
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Is There Anything Like Purgatory? by italo: 3:53pm On Nov 17, 2013
adsonstone: I thank GOD this is a public forum.
Everyone here can witness your ignorance of the truth and your diversions when you have no excuse.

You can choose to ignore truth....of course, because you cannot change it.

Peace, Bro.
Dont kill yourself. Truth doesn't need announcement.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Rosary And A Talisman, What Is The Difference? by italo: 3:48pm On Nov 17, 2013
Alfa Seltzer: He didn't deviate as he didn't propose any alternative to the original. He just said that the proposition was false. The definition of the proposer remains the same but the validity was doubted.

You seem to confuse something. When somebody disagrees with you, it doesn't mean that that person has an alternative proposition.
You seem to confuse something. When someone makes an ascertion, he should be certain or near certain of what he's saying.

You dont ascert what you're ignorant of.

Except you don't know the meaning of "ascert."

Isnt that how many of you Atheists operate? Even when you dont understand a thing, you continue to affirm your position.

Exactly what you blame Christians for.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 3:39pm On Nov 17, 2013
plaetton: Ha ha ha ha.
Big laugh at Italo.

Faith = Doubt

God could not save thousands of lives, so we have to find something, anything at all, that he saved.
Oh! There it is. A statue.
God is great. He Will never let down the faithful...completely. lol

Only a moronic, fearfully doubtful religious mind would even consider, let alone celebrate the fact that a statue, an idol, was saved from destruction by a miraculous god who failed to save 5,000 to 10,000 lives of the faithful.

Religion, what a terrible brain disease!
Why do you think the dead are worse-off?
Christianity Etc › Re: CATHOLICS ONLY: When Was The Last Time You Received Holy Communion? by italo: 3:34pm On Nov 17, 2013
Thursday...next, this evening by God's grace.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 3:31pm On Nov 17, 2013
cutieemperor007: IF YOU ARE A TRUE CHRISTEN, THEN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR VIEW BY QUOTING SOME FLIMSY VERSE IN THE BIBBLE YOU SHOULD RATHER TRY TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY JESUS HIMSELF WAS TELLING PEOPLE HE WASN'T GOD(AS SEEN IN THE VERSES I QUOTED ABOVE) OR ARE U SAYING THOSE VERSES AREN'T IN THE BIBBLE OR I INVENTED THEM OR MAYBE THEY ARE TORN FROM YOUR OWN BIBBLE, THE QUESTIONS ARE; ALL THAT I QUOTED ABOVE ARE THEY IN THE BIBBLE OR NOT, 2) DID JESUS SAID IT OR NOT, 3) DID HE MEAN WHAT HE SAID OR IS THERE ANY OTHER EXPLANATION FOR WHAT HE SAID, IF YES THEN EXPLAIN TO US ALL THOSE VERSES ONE AFTER THE OTHER....
Mathew 23:9 " But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only."
from the verse above, it is obvious that your god (Jesus) dosent even know the day of resurrection....
First admit that Jesus is God according to the Bible then I will teach you what you should know.

If you will not admit it, explain the verses.

And dont you think you are a hypocrite to believe the verses you quoted but call the verses I'm quoting from the same Bible "flimsy?"
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 3:26pm On Nov 17, 2013
ALEXIS0240: person wey no see well,how e wan take reason?
You mean blind people dont reason?

It seems you arent enlightened.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 3:24pm On Nov 17, 2013
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 3:21pm On Nov 17, 2013
Mary statue after Philippines earthquake.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 3:08pm On Nov 17, 2013
dorox: My point is that it is silly to think that Jesus and Mary are so vain to save statues fashioned by men who doesn't even know how they must have looked like over thousands of innocent children.
Those statues survive because they where well built as well as having a low drag coefficient on account of their relatively narrow profile compared to a house.
1. Did I tell you that Jesus and Mary saved the statues? It is possible. I dont know. I just reported what happened.

2. What makes you think that dying in a storm is a bad thing?

3. You have a point about a statue being more stable than some other structures in a storm but you cannot be certain. There are two statues of Mary that were unscathed in the earth quake that preceded the typhoon...even though everything around them was wrecked.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Is There Anything Like Purgatory? by italo: 2:58pm On Nov 17, 2013
adsonstone: What the heck is this? huh

Have you found out the truth (and too embarrassed to admit it) or are you ignoring again?
lipsrsealed
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Is There Anything Like Purgatory? by italo: 2:41pm On Nov 17, 2013
adsonstone: You have clearly chosen to ignore what I said about that issue that's why I tagged that attitude 'ignorance'

Anyway, no problem.

I will show them only if you show other people on this thread where I claimed I know exactly how Jesus danced on the other thread.



You're the one using that fraudulent means of telling me to clarify religion to atheists.

Clarify what's before you and stop diverting fraudulently.



You can answer this question.
I'll help you with a question guide.

Answer this honestly and you'll have your correct answer.

Where is that place where everyman's work will be revealed by fire on the day of the Lord?
Ppffff!!! Smh
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is The Statue Portrayed As JESUS Christ,is The Statue Really Jesus. by italo: 2:33pm On Nov 17, 2013
gnabry: Good day nairalanders,I have a serious question for my christain folks,ARE THE STATUES PORTRAYED AS JESUS CHRIST really JESUS?
No. They are representations/portrayals of Jesus that people use to call him to mind and all he means to us. Just like your father's picture or painting is not your father, no matter the resemblance. It's only a representation/portrayal with which you call him to mind. What's the difference between a picture, painting and sculpture?
gnabry: is there any page in the bible that says exactly hw jesus was in terms of his physical appearance?
You have forgotten that people saw Jesus...and they had painters and sculptors...and they had writings that are not in the Bible. Or do you think that only things found in the Bible are true?
gnabry: was he tall,,short,huge,Fat,,,thin and etci find this rather disturbing cause I see a lot of my christain freinds wearin the cross and saying that's Jesus and funny enough,they believe in the cross rather than the superfiacial being itslef.
Well, as for Catholics, we don't call the crucifix "Jesus." Though we know that a consecrated crucifix can carry the power of God just like Paul's handkerchief or Jesus' garment.
gnabry: When jesus was alive,most of us "this generation and generation before us"were not alive then how could somone from somewhere build in the mind of the people that the statue is JESUS,I also find series of christain movies disturbing,I see a man in cloak silk,long hair nd cast as JESUS huh.
Pls,I do not try to abuse anyone religion,no sentiments whatsoever is allowed on this thred,All I need are simple answers,thanks
They are just portrayals. Nothing to worry about.


Gal 3:1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly exhibited as crucified!

Christ was not crucified in Galatia so think about how he was publicly exhibited as such before the eyes of the Galatians.

Could it be a drama...crucifix...painting?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 2:14pm On Nov 17, 2013
dorox: @italo: What would you say to a man who heroically enters a burning building with lots of people trapped inside, including women and children only to come out some moments later proudly holding a statue of himself that he went through all that trouble to save, leaving those trapped in the building to their own fate?
Would you tell people of his heroic feat in saving his statue, or would you call him a wicked man with seriously misplaced priority?
I wouldn't know why he did that...but I would most likely have a bad impression of him.

So what is your point?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO) by italo: 2:10pm On Nov 17, 2013
cutieemperor007: I quoted over 10 verses of the bibble where Jesus himself made it know that he isn't GOD, But u quoted just a verse where thomas (a disciple of jesus) refer to jesus as his lord and GOD, thomas must have been overwhelmed by the miracles and teachings of Jesus to say so, and he said, my Lord and my God and not our Lord and our GOD, should we start believing the disciple (thomas) over the teacher (jesus)...

AND LOOK AT YOU ASKING ME IF I WANT TO ARGUE AS IF YOU ARE UP TO THE TASK...I QUOTE 10 VERSE YOU QUOTE 1,
AND MIND YOU, I'M A MUSLIM AND I KNOW YOUR BIBBLE MORE THAN YOU DO....SHAME....LEARN TO READ YOUR BIBBLE BRO, AND NOT JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE BEEN TOLD BY YOUR PASTOR HOOK LINE AND SINKER...
You dont know the Bible. You only think you do. Thomas was a Jew who would never blaspheme the name of God if he didn't think Jesus were God.

Let me give you another one.

Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

That is God speaking of Jesus.

Was God also overwhelmed by Jesus' miracles and teachings? grin

What is your excuse this time?

Mind you, I have dozens of verses; but I choose to see you twist each one after the other.

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