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cutieemperor007: uhmmm...bibble, maybe like some observered is very contradictory or maybe Jesus isn't saying GOD and himself are thesame in personality here, maybe he is saying GOD and himself are one in Ideology

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Maybe your interpretation of the Bible is wrong.

Sal C: That's a pity. I saw it.

A real pity

^^^Happy Sunday, Sister.

John 20:28 "Thomas said to him, "my Lord and my God!"

Do you see that Jesus is God or you still feel like arguing?

cutieemperor007: if the bibble is correct, then jesus can not be GOD
LET HEAR FROM THE BIBBLE:

(1) JESUS ENCOUNTER WITH DEVIL IN THE BIBBLE
Mathew1:7 "it is written again, thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God"
In this chapter we read that the devil actually carried the mesiah and took him from place to place. How can the devil carry GOD, HE is above such blasphemy, then the devil ordered him to postrate before him and worship him, even tempted him with worldly possessions, how can the devil even dare such audacity with GOD who created not just the world and everything in it but also the heavens and all it angels and demons including Satan himself....
(2) JESUS TALKED ABOUT A SUPREME BEING IN HEAVEN WHO IS GREATER THAN HIMSELF
Mathew 5:45 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your father which is in heaven is perfect
Mathew 6:1 "otherwise ye have no reward of your father which is in heaven"
Mathew 7:21 " Not every one that sayeth unto me (JESUS), LORD, LORD, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doeth the will of my father, which is in heaven
(3) JESUS WORSHIP GOD AND PRAY TO GOD
Mathew 14:23 "And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a montain apart to pray.....
I say: if Jesus is God or a part of GOD then why did he pray and who is he praying to, or is there someone more supreme than GOD? Infact, prayer is always from a submitting, needy and dependent one for the mercy of GOD. This also bring to mind the night before the cruxification of Jesus christ, he took his followers to the montain and ask them to pray to GOD....
John 20:16 "Jesus said unto her, Mary, she turn herself, and sayeth unto him, "Rabboni", which is to say master, Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; For I am not yet ascended to my father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my father and your father; and to my GOD and your GOD ......In the above verse Jesus clearly distinguish between himself and GOD.
Mathew 27:46 "Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, Iama sabachthani? (that is to say,) my GOD, my GOD, why hast thou forsaken me?...
Mathew 26:39 "And he (Jesus) went a little farther and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt...Jesus plead with GOD to make the cup pass over him but if what is happening to him is the will of GOD then the will of GOD should prevail, these goes to show us that Jesus not only didn't know the will of GOD but was also submissive to the will of GOD as a true worshipper of GOD should.
Mathew 23:8 "But be not ye called rabbi: for one is your master, even Jesus, and all ye are brethren."
and lastly
John 17:3 " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true GOD and Jesus christ whom thou has sent."
with all these evidences even from the bibble itself if u still think GOD and JESUS is one Entity then may GOD himself cure you.

John 20:28 "Thomas said to him, "my Lord and my God!"

cutieemperor007: if the bibble is correct, then jesus can not be GOD
LET HEAR FROM THE BIBBLE:

(1) JESUS ENCOUNTER WITH DEVIL IN THE BIBBLE
Mathew1:7 "it is written again, thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God"
In this chapter we read that the devil actually carried the mesiah and took him from place to place. How can the devil carry GOD, HE is above such blasphemy, then the devil ordered him to postrate before him and worship him, even tempted him with worldly possessions, how can the devil even dare such audacity with GOD who created not just the world and everything in it but also the heavens and all it angels and demons including Satan himself....
(2) JESUS TALKED ABOUT A SUPREME BEING IN HEAVEN WHO IS GREATER THAN HIMSELF
Mathew 5:45 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your father which is in heaven is perfect
Mathew 6:1 "otherwise ye have no reward of your father which is in heaven"
Mathew 7:21 " Not every one that sayeth unto me (JESUS), LORD, LORD, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doeth the will of my father, which is in heaven
(3) JESUS WORSHIP GOD AND PRAY TO GOD
Mathew 14:23 "And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a montain apart to pray.....
I say: if Jesus is God or a part of GOD then why did he pray and who is he praying to, or is there someone more supreme than GOD? Infact, prayer is always from a submitting, needy and dependent one for the mercy of GOD. This also bring to mind the night before the cruxification of Jesus christ, he took his followers to the montain and ask them to pray to GOD....
John 20:16 "Jesus said unto her, Mary, she turn herself, and sayeth unto him, "Rabboni", which is to say master, Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; For I am not yet ascended to my father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my father and your father; and to my GOD and your GOD ......In the above verse Jesus clearly distinguish between himself and GOD.
Mathew 27:46 "Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, Iama sabachthani? (that is to say,) my GOD, my GOD, why hast thou forsaken me?...
Mathew 26:39 "And he (Jesus) went a little farther and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt...Jesus plead with GOD to make the cup pass over him but if what is happening to him is the will of GOD then the will of GOD should prevail, these goes to show us that Jesus not only didn't know the will of GOD but was also submissive to the will of GOD as a true worshipper of GOD should.
Mathew 23:8 "But be not ye called rabbi: for one is your master, even Jesus, and all ye are brethren."
and lastly
John 17:3 " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true GOD and Jesus christ whom thou has sent."
with all these evidences even from the bibble itself if u still think GOD and JESUS is one Entity then may GOD himself cure you.

Many would tell you: only an idiott wouldn't believe.

ifeness: only an idiott will belive an arab man died for the sins of the whole world. You forgot the dumbest of all the biblical stories. Noah’s Ark. Consider for a moment the point of view that the kangaroo’s must have had during this epic and stupid story.

Even these mean nothing. After all, many believers would also say you are foolish and an I.diot.

ifeness: only a fool believes there's an invisible man in the sky who likes to watch you while you’re showering.

ifeness: yes it doesn't matter to people who lack thinking abilities. God is simply for idiots

Precisely! I think Plaetton knew he deviated from the definition of love of at least certain Christians. That's why he couldn't say much but keep ascerting his convictions.

It is hypocrisy to only notice when Christians do same.

Alfa Seltzer: If there is one universal meaning of sane, then it should be obvious to everybody, and nobody will require your specific definition. If you start asking for subjective definitions, you depart from that of the original proposer who affirmed his sanity.

https://www.nairaland.com/1520449/how-often-recite-lords-prayer#19598949

Over there, you'll find "Christians" who dont know "The Lord's Prayer." They think it's Psalms 23

I never said I need to. But I need to know the meaning of "sane" to affirm that you're not sane. No?

Alfa Seltzer: Why do you need to define sane?

It's okay if you're incapable of telling how.

daroz: 'How' as how? Is'nt it obvious?

God told the Israelites to make images...yes or no?

gzib: Image worshiping people are here again. Make no image either in HEAVEN or on EARTH, that is the warning of God when he was given the 10 commandment.
That is not Jesus image, but image that men portrayed as Jesus.
Worship Jesus in Spirit and Soul.
Gbam

I ask you why you hold the definition of God that you do. First, you said "because that is the definition."

When I showed you that the statement didnt make any sense, you quoted the verse. Now that I quoted from the same man again you're backing out.

Tell me how you came to that definition of God.

And do you believe the Bible...yes or no?

gothrones: How can Mary give birth to God if God is already ALIVE? Is it possible for another person to give birth to you, while you are already alive? Does that make any sense to you? My point in quoting the Bible was to show you that the book is full of contradictions.

If you believe that God created everything, how can you believe that someone gave birth to God? So God created Mary and then she gave birth to God? Even you must agree that the Bible is the greatest source of confusion in the world.

Lol

Ubenedictus: hehehe, oga afraid don begin catch me oh. Dis ur joke no get part 2. comedy business fit you.

But does it make sense for me to say you arent sane when I cant define "sane?"

Alfa Seltzer: If I claim sanity, I should know the definition and not depend on you to define it for me.

God said "seek first THE KINGDOM, and every other thing (favour and success inclusive) shall be added" you people are seeking first "FAVOUR" and "SUCCESS."

Am I wrong in thinking that you have lost the way?

Ubenedictus: lol, oga italo make an attempt, d pope condemned after death by an ecumenical council for ambiguity and indifference to heresy, d pope who was previously an heretic. No fall my hand oh.

I don fall your hand tay tay...sotay I use your hand sweep ground sef...

ifeness: common sense is greater than god. those who use common sense know there is no god.

Your opinion.

And your opinion matters not to believers.

gothrones: I didn't say so:

Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

So you see that God cannot have a mother. God created all things, so He also created Mary. If He created Mary how can she give birth to Him? Does that make any sense?

Oh Good! So you believe Isaiah.

Let us read Isaiah 9:6 then...

For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

You see that Mary is the Mother of God?

Or you still want to argue?

ALEXIS0240: to see the statue and do what...guy you over need am pass me to help your thinking.

No, people dont use glasses to think, contrary to your poor belief.

You need glasses to read my post.

Alfa Seltzer: On the basis of your claim that you love god.

Yet he doesnt know what love is.

How do you go about negating/affirming what you dont even know/cant define?

Does it make sense to tell you you arent sane if I cant define "sane?"

alpha conde: I pray the our father in the rosary almost 8 times within 20minutes, I find solace in this simple prayer than some tougues speaking and vigils. And my life is very peaceful. Who else experiences this?

Me oh!

I have acquaintances who tell me "come to this anointing service," "let us go and see this man of God,"

I say no.

I go to mass, hear the word of God, receive Jesus in Communion, pray my Rosary...and my life is at peace unlike them always jumping from frypan to fire.

gothrones: LMAO. Because that is the definition of God!

Oh! Just because you say so?!

Then Mary is the Mother of God. I say so.

If you have a problem with that, you're a hypocrite.

gothrones: NOT by my definition. God is the creator of all things. If God has a birther, how can He be God?

How do you know God is the creator of all things?

Merkki: yes I am. Can you pls read for me. Some of you so-called Christians are demonic and are always ready for a fight. That Italo or whatever he is called has lost my respect. Together with you professor. People like you make us not want to associate with Christians. Always bitter.

It was you who continually tried to twist my statements.

How was I to know that you understood all along?

Sorry for offending you, but I advise you look into your conduct with me on this thread.

It is easy to find faults in others without realizing ours.

When did I ever make it seem like Jesus was competing against Mary? When did I ever make it seem like Mary was greater than Jesus?

Yet you kept asking me those as if I suggested those.

Vheck yourself too.

ALEXIS0240: [b]she too don be God abi?[/b]all this earthly mentality wont do us any good,this statures were all built by man,its not like the are even heavenly bodies.guy anything wey no dey in line with the holy books,i swear na fake.read your bible or koran and practice what is written there in truth,leave the rest to God almighty.

I think you need glasses.

Originalsly: Miracle?....didn't the Bible made it clear that no such statue should ever be made? The statue is therefore ungodly and so.are the people that see it as blessed...pay homage to it...worship it or thought it was Jesus watching over them. They should now think again ...maybe see it as a magnet for destruction.

Wrong. In the Bible, God commands statues to be made by the Israelites.

What's wrong is worshiping statues as God...and there's nothing to suggest those statues were worshipped.

Alfa Seltzer: Laughable.
You guys make the claim that you love god. Then you guys turn around and ask atheists to define love.
If you claim to love god, you should know the meaning of what you claim.

In that thread it was Plaetton that made a claim, not any Christian.

He claimed we dont love God.

He even claimed something like 'we dont love our fellow man.'

On what basis does he make such claims if he cant define love?

gothrones: This is bullshit. By definition, GOD CANNOT have a mother!

By YOUR definition.

macof: Wats this rubbish?

A dead man cannot be a God

How do you know he is dead?

Lilaex: Are u an illiterate can't u read?

She can. She just cant read and understand.

Merkki: Are you trying to say Mary (Jesus' mother) is greater than Jesus? This question is from your last two lines.

Who is greater than God? No one.

Why are you so interested in competitions?

You seem a little far from Jesus and Mary.

They arent interested in competing with anyone, as you seemingly want them to be.