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synergycom19:
Men of GOD are not usually that learned

Catholic priests are more learned than majority of other people.

They all have at least two degrees.

How many do you have?

bigv:
No he hasn't. He had no moral justification to have interfered with politics.

He might seem He's been vindicated. But that wasn't the way the late Arc. Bishop would have gone about the issues.

Politics and Religion is like oil and water. Just like Jega told Orubebe "You are a former Minister of the Federal republic, you should be careful about the things you say...." This goes to all the "Ministers of God". if God didn't send you on an errand, do not send yourself.


P.S: My boo is always embarrassing me in public, can I call her orubaebae?

Please show us where the Bible or the Nigerian Constitution says the bold...

While bearing in mind that Fr Mbaka is a citizen of Nigeria.

Must every priest behave like the late Archbishop?

Mee234:
Mbaka gambled. His out boast was out of frustration. Had he had access to PGJ, he would have been sung another song. Leave Holy spirit out of mbaka charade

What you're saying is your own speculation. You have no proof that he gambled.

Mbaka said he was speaking from the "oracle of the Holy Spirit." He also said "many would misunderstand but his word would stand the test of time, then we would know he was speaking the truth." All he said came to pass.

There is evidence of all he said, how many people misunderstood, and how his word stood the test of time.

At the time Mbaka was saying these things, Buhari didn't have much momentum in the race...and he was speaking to a massively pro-GEJ crowd, as the Enugu result shows.

He swam against the current...against all odds.

jmoore:
Story!!

My focus is on the governorship. Mbaka said Chimaraoke will not win the second term. Did he win the second term? Yes, he did.

Stop quoting the bible carelessly.

Can you bring evidence of Mbaka saying that?

I have a video of Mbaka saying "from the oracle of the Holy Spirit, we are announcing change."

I'm Catholic but I want to know all the facts.

Thanks.

Shey OP no know where transformer dey?

Franchise21:
Rev Fr Ejike Mbaka says GMB will win... Apostle Johnson Suleman says GEJ will return. Let's watch n see

Now you know.

Congratulations Nigerians.

adsonstone:
Congratulations to all Nigerians.

We pray the change is a positive one that Nigeria will always remember for good.

Amen.

His message on Jan 1st, 2015 (three months ago).

"In the year 2014, we had a lot of bloodshed in this country. People were dying like rats without anybody asking about them. This country suffered a lot of blood experience. Many of us witnessed that people were in tears. Just like the ancient world, the year 2014, the 4 in it had the queen in it, which had to do with death. Our leaders failed us with reckless abandon and nobody asked them question.
The so-called democracy was a hidden autocracy. It was deceptive and questionable quack miler. Nigerians suffered hunger unnecessarily. We heard about oil subsidy being removed and added, whatever be(is) their jargon, nobody understood them. We heard about minimum wage, the civil servant suffered, the minimum wage was not paid and we were all calm. In 2015, Nigerians will not be calm again (shouts of AMEN!).

We need change. Whatever it will be, let it be. This is my golden message to my beloved country. What actually is happening (Ogini nne me?). The multitude of our youths, the quality young men, quality young women, brilliants youths but nobody has plans for any of you. Our so-called leaders should come and apologize. In 2015, it shall not continue like that (shouts of AMEN).

By the grace of God, by the power of the Holy Spirit, we are announcing spiritually, change! 2015 should not be a year of any hooligan maneuvering to hijack power. This is our New Year message. Listen, when you go home, tell anybody you see that from the oracle of the Holy Spirit, we are announcing change (AMEN). Can somebody help me to shout change (shouts of change by the congregation) in Jesus holy name.

Look at what it’s like, as I’m yet to bless your families, bless your industries, bless your destinies. Come 2015, your plans are blessed, your vision are blessed, your locomotive society are blessed. I cover this year with the blood of Jesus. I seal this year with the blood of Jesus.

My message is in two branches (folds). Number one branch, the theme of this first message to my fellow countrymen is from good luck to bad luck. Once upon a time, the whole countrymen were crying for a leader who will help us move forward with our economy, have an authentic democracy, give our unemployed youths jobs, enable our power to be steady, who will industrialize Nigerians, who will encourage mass education and agriculturalize Nigeria. Having in view that oil will soon drop, give us security in a maximum level. By the grace of God, there emerged a Goodluck, all of us were happy, the Goodluck met Yar’ Adua and Yar’ Adua died. May the Holy Spirit help me as I utter this message, I know many will misunderstand it, but it will stand the test of time and you will know I’m speaking the truth.

The Goodluck met Yar’Adua and Yar’Adua died. Before you know it, the Goodluck met our oil and the oil had a bad luck and poured away, before we knew it, the Goodluck met our naira, our naira had a bad luck. Where are we going? What is the fate of this country? Shall we continue like this, we need change (shout of change from the congregation).

As I’m speaking with you, most of our civil servants did not celebrate their Christmas. The Christmas season that should be a Goodluck time became a bad luck time for our Nigerians forgetting that very soon, from 3rd January, the children will go back to school and the parent are going to pay school fees. From where? Are they going to use their urine to pay? (Shout of NO from the congregation). But where is the good water even if they are going to use their urine. Are they going to use their stool to pay the school fees of their children? (Shout of NO from the congregation). You have to eat well to defecate.

What is the fate of our children? Tears fill my eyes when I see our young graduates hoping and walking our streets. What is the meaning of kidnapping? Kidnapping is the grandson of unemployment. Boko Haram is a grand great child of the same unemployment, mass looting, and poor governance.

I’m not saying that Goodluck is a bad man. He is a good man. But he cannot lead Nigeria. As things stand right now, from the oracle of the Holy Spirit, Jonathan should honourably resign quietly and let Nigeria be. The destiny of Nigeria is greater than Goodluck Jonathan. The Goodluck in Jonathan has become a bad luck to Nigerians. Whatever brought him in should send him back and let Nigeria be.
By this time in few months to come, many are going to lose their jobs and there is no alternative.

During election, Jonathan will answer Azikiwe, Ebele and become an Igbo man and after election, the Ebele, the Azikiwe and Goodluck will vanish from his identity. Who is fooling who actually?
Look at our federal roads, we are not even asking for new ones, roads built by Buhari and Babangidas — the so called Hausa people— cannot be maintained. Follow Enugu here to Onitsha, children born some years ago do not know that there was a lane along the other side of Isiagwu and we are all saying continue. The continuity of Jonathan means disaster to Nigeria.

We need change. May the Holy Spirit help me to vocalize what he has shown to me while I was waiting on him to give me a message for my people? I’m worried about the future of you my children. Go to school, go to school, mention any government school functioning in Nigeria now? Our schools are dilapidated. Nigeria is like an egg about to break in the hands of Jonathan Goodluck and we cannot allow it to happen. It is so unfortunate that pastors are becoming vultures around the president. Pastors are becoming hawks around him, eating the porridge of Jacob and selling their prophetic rights. And anointing is being merchandised in Aso Rock, carrying our nairas, turning it to dollars and carrying it in jets moving out of the country.

Listen, this is the voice on the pulpit: all these men of God, who are telling Jonathan to continue because they are benefitting one thing or the other, you should question your apostolic, prophetic anointing. What the Bible say is that Samson did not know that the Holy Spirit had left him. Let them watch if the Holy Spirit is still in them.

Listen, they will begin to tell us this one is a Christian the other one is a Muslim. I don’t believe in that. Who is a Christian more than Judas? Did Judas not betray Jesus? Judas was not just a Christian, he was not just a mere apostle, he was a super apostle like a cardinal but at a time he messed up and Bible says his office, let another take. That is the normal thing.

The way Nigeria is going right now, the office of Goodluck Jonathan let another take. I’m not campaigning for anybody. I’m filled with tears over what is happening in Nigeria. Some of us who have nongovernmental organisations funding charity, I know what I’m suffering. The more they are looting our resources, the more they are rending you unemployed, the more some of us suffer the more. If I have been paying for the school fees of 500 people, it would now jack up to 3000, or more.
What the government should do, individuals are struggling to achieve. When there is no road, no power, all this fake promises… where is the power? That Onitsha Bridge, has it now been built? No. After 6 years, and Goodluck has what it takes to do whatever. He surrounded himself with hooligans. By the time he comes down, he won’t have anybody to work with. He played himself into the hands of hooligans.

My interest is about the wellness of this country. Nigeria must survive what we are passing through by the help of God. The same God who saved us from Ebola will save us from this bad luck season (shouts of AMEN from the congregation).

Look at it, there was a time there was an argument about pension fund – such billions. Who is talking about it now? Billions and we were hearing it… from excess crude oil money, where is the impact of the excess crude oil money? Now from oil boom, it has met a bad luck; it’s now oil doom. If my father will be my leader and my siblings will all die, let a stranger be my leader and let my family be. All I’m trying to tell you is that we have not entered into any covenant with anybody.
Last time, the First Lady came here. We are not partisan; we welcomed her. We did a spiritual drama here. Lifted four birds to fly up, the main one that should fly up refused to go. I did everything possible and that one is the healthiest of them all but refused to fly and the spirit of God said, don’t disturb him.

When God rejected Saul, David took over. Let me tell you, in the history of Nigeria, we have never experience bloodshed as we have in the time of Goodluck. If Goodluck means bloodshed for Nigerians are you waiting until your own blood is shed? (shouts of No from the congregation).
We need change, however God will do it. Look at the insecurity if you go to the northern part of Nigeria.

My fellow priest, my fellow pastors, don’t just stand up to attack this message, because you have mouth. Think well before you put your mouth, the voice is beyond your own contribution. Listen, are you waiting for your own church to be bombed before you speak out? If you go to Maiduguri, some parishes have closed down. Go to Potiskum. People no longer go to church on Sundays in many parts of this country. Now imagine a scenario where a president cannot fight a simple insurgence. This is not an external country attack o. It is not like another country invaded Nigeria. It is an intra distraction. And many of us are claiming that it was because Buhari said that he was going to make Jonathan’s government ungovernable. Listen, let’s assume Buhari said something like that, even though it’s not Buhari who said it. So if you are the president and somebody say something like that, will you not arrest such a person?

@adsonstone, now you have my answer.

CHANGE is here, as Fr Mbaka announced 3 months ago.

This was 2011. Watch the 25 second point and you'll see CPC.

Be careful before posting these things.

efilefun:
PDP massively thumb printing ballot paper in the north.... Rigging alert!!!!






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZjvLCpBPEs

I want to both contribute materials and join them in sharing to people.

justjify:
Honourable Italo, you wan join the share or you wan collect your share?

I practically live in both Abuja and Lagos. Lets say Abuja 25%...Lagos 75%. This time I think the biz I came for will keep me long.

I'll look for Judith next saturday.

And I'm a 'parish prostitute' in Abuja. I mainly attend OLQN Garki near my house, Holy Trinity Maitama...then sometimes your parish and any other one that is convenient at the time.

Peppyluv:
You relocated? My cousin is an active member of the society there in Holy Trinity,her name is Judith
My parish is Church of Assumption Asokoro,thou I come to Holy Trinity sometimes.

We give thanks to God for this breakthrough.

May he now continue to uplift your family. Amen.

3tees:
I'm deeply grateful to GOD and all u lovely nd kindhearted people dat came 2 my family's rescue to avert d looming shame nd absolute disgrace.D amount required was completed late yesterday. My husband left home early in d morning 2 meet d house agent, it was at the bank dat he realized there is public holiday today in Ogun State for PVC collection. No bank opened in the entire State today. My husband called d agent who asked us to bring it to his office on Monday - since we assured that its ready. Words can't convey d depth of peace I feel in my heart. On behalf of my husband, my humble self and entire family, we are expressing our gratefulness to all of you.@syncan,kamsified,peppyluv,chynak,justify,Rich4god, @italo and all other anonymous people here for all d financial support and unfathomable prayers. Thank you people of GOD. On Monday, I will post the copy of the receipt for you all to see how your kind gestures has ignited our happiness. Thank you and thank you again.

Abuja people...I dey Abuja now too o.

I need good friends and easter rice o.

I found out when I went to mass at Holy Trinity Maitama that their St Vincent de Paul is have a community sharing of food and other materials on Holy Saturday. Looking forward to joining them.

justjify:
Hahahaha! I de abuja ooh! No wonder, I saw someone like you at peace mass. I called and called.. But before I knew it, Kamsified was already in her villa.

What you're proposing sounds positive...but you'd have to convince many people about many things.

And I think someone somewhere will still ask questions like: 'why not just give the national council an online presence?' Amongst other questions. Ideally, every conference should be online...so to now have an online conference again sounds somehow to me.

To be frank I'd rather just do something privately controlled...so that some people wont drive me crazy in the name of bureaucracy...and I'm talking from experience.

Let me give you some little examples: in my conference, I suggested to them to introduce the use of short codes so that you can for example send 100 to 33355 to donate 100 naira to the poor. What I heard was "parish priest may say we are going beyond our boundaries."

Also we tried printing flyers showing examples of cases we handle so that parishioners can be gingered to donate more. Parish priest cancelled the idea.

If I wanted to do these for an NGO, no parish priest would stop me. No headaches.

Rich4god:
more like creating an online conference that will work with other conference...

If you want to create a "charity under ssvp," it means you want to create a charity under a charity.

Then why not simply create an online presence for ssvp national council?

Would you like to do that?

Rich4god:
@italo... For me, why I think its best we have the online charity under ssvp is cos of flexibility... I believe once started, we might be faced with cases where non of the online members are leaving close to... In this case, getting the contact of the closest conference to the location to help out with investigation won't be a problem since they already knw of our existence. More so, a case that we can't treat or handle due to finance or logistics can easily be handed over to a conference capable of handling such case. We can give it a trial as am sure contacting the national body won't be a problem.

3tees...would you mind giving your number?

Rich4god's answer is somewhat sufficient. We cant just form "Nairaland Vincentians" and be operating in the name of the Society without authorization from the National Council.

However I think a sort of Nairaland Catholic Charity can be formed...though there would be many challenges to surmount:

E.g how do you raise funds to help people from all walks of life? How do you investigate cases from all over the country...or world?

Personally, I have been working on starting an NGO that will encourage Catholics everywhere to contribute in cash or in kind to help the needy. It will follow much of the model of Society of St Vincent de Paul and will even partner with it in areas like investigation etc...but it will not be held back by some of the draw backs that the society can have. For example, the NGO could easily have online presence on any platform...nairaland and/others.

I guess I shoul accelerate work on that.

exxell:
How about we have nairaland Vincentians formed by Nairaland Catholics? Will that be bad?

MoonCares:
Please I need advice from matured people.
There's this guy that am dating, he's so caring, lovely and humble. He is planning to marry me but he is short. Though I have not gathered the courage to tell him my fears. Am average 5ft, but am taller than him. So am afraid that our kids will be short.
Please my fellow NL, I need your advice, I don't want to make mistakes in marriage. Though I have been praying to God for the right man.

Please I need your prayers, am a catholic

Tell God your worries. Tell him how you selfishly want a taller guy when he has already given you a good man...and tell him your reason.

And tell him "thy will be done."

He is our Father and can grant your wish if he wants...or he can show you that your wish is not good for you.

But see to it that you treat the man fairly and pray that God gives him the right woman too. Perhaps he too deserves a taller or better woman than you.

It is only human to desire attractive things...so don't be ashamed...but you should always subject your desires to God's will...and remember to be loyal to the other person involved.

I have said a prayer for you.

3tees

Though I'm very broke now but I'll see what I can do tomorrow.

I pray that there will be a way out of this situation. However, please tell me where you live. I want to see the possibility of recommending you to St. Vincent de Paul...perhaps we can do something to help you restart your business.

Not that I believe or disbelieve you. I'm just moved to do what I can.

I have been in those shoes...and I have come across many in similar and even far worse situations...so I perfectly understand how hard it can be to get money from people...even church members...or to even move around to ask people for money.

TheRainmaker1:
I beg to differ Sir.

It is never a good idea, when 'the church' dabbles into issues of state (politics and economy),

Who are you to tell a 2000 year old Church what it can and cannot 'dabble into?'

Providing for citizens is also an issue of state. Has the Church been doing wrong by dabbling into this area for 2000 years?

Did the Church do bad when it 'dabbled into state issues' by invented the modern university system, hospices etc?

TheRainmaker1:
as their actions may be misconstrued as supportive of one party and critical of another. Take the likes of Ayo Oritsejafor and David Oyedepo for example.

Forget about those men. I call them business men, not men of God.

TheRainmaker1:
Men of God should learn to focus on their calling (spreading the Gospel and providing spiritual guidance to people) and leave secular issues for others.

Again, who are you to decide what a man of God should or shouldn't do? Is it written anywhere in the Constitution or in the Bible that a man of God should never talk about politics or economy? Please show me where. Or is it only written in your imagination?

So once a citizen goes to the seminary and becomes a priest, he ceases to be a Nigerian. He can no longer talk about his country's affairs.

Can priests also vote or should they just focus on the gospel?

TheRainmaker1:
What has Pope Francis got to do with Nigeria's economy?

Pope Francis is a citizen of the world...and the world is a global village.

Pope Francis is also the leader of the Church that has given so much in charity to millions of Nigerians who have been disenfranchised in a poorly managed economy.

So he has every right to talk about the Nigerian economy.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
No sane catholican will vote for Buhari.

I am Catholic. I will vote for Buhari.

How does that make me insane?

Who is Egbe O Egbe?

Peppyluv:
Hmmmmmmm italo

Good evening ma...

Syncan:
Why not take this appeal to https://www.nairaland.com/1315227/e-helpers-network-tehn-official-thread#16092964. They have the resources to verify your claim. You are so new on NL and not even your location is clear. Most people here who could assist, may just need to be sure of your genuineness.

Tag: Striktlymi, Italo, Rich4God, babestell. Those I mentioned and others, make una no vex, how una see the matter?

My brother, the story is touching and I want to help with the little I can...but the first step is to at least know where 3tees is and how the case can be verified.

Also, Syncan and Peppyluv have given good suggestions.

Onitsha is an unliveable city.

Go to PH jare.

jnrbayano:
SalC is our Ogene

lol...Sal C thank u o

Thanks to all that sent their birthday wishes for my mum yesteday. God bless you.

But how una take remember? Una be winsh?

Skyhighweb...pls i want a manufacturer to make tshirts for me with my own labels and designs.

I want good quality and cheapest price cos I'll resell here. Thanks.

adeniyitheprof:
My brother, I don't know anything. You and I are still aspiring to know the indepth mysteries of God and all His words in the Bible.
The knowledge acquisition of all the mysteries of God and Heaven cannot alone make one get to Heaven but he that preaches it, does it and still endures whatever trial or persecution that may come on his way till the end will be SAVED.
We only need the amazing grace of the Lord God to abide in Him alone and He alone in us till when He comes back or till when He calls us home so that our heavenly inheritance will not elude us.
WE SERIOUSLY NEED THIS GRACE, MY BROTHER!

The bold is proof that the rest of this post and all your other posts were typed in ignorance.

Since you are ignorant, why are you trying to teach the Catholic Church?