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Politics › Re: Why Are Igbo Towns 98% Indigenous? by italo: 9:10am On Apr 08, 2015
tonytony208:
Stop wining like a faulty ceiling fan here. How many Yoruba's are residing in igboland
? They are very few because you pple are not accommodating. So, any Yoruba that vie for elective position will surely fail because it is in the blood of Igbo's to vote based on ethnic sentiment. Lagos was developed by federal government money especially from cocoa. If you don't want anyone to claim omo onile over your land, then carry your money to alaigbo and go and buy land on your gully erosion there.
Assumption. Why don't you give me one example of Yorubas maltreated in Igboland...and one example of a Yoruba who tried running for a position and was rejected. don't blame Igbos for your laziness.

Again...it seems you have never come across the Nigerian constitution. That land I bought in Lagos belongs to me...and not to you or your drunk Oba.

Cocoa? How much is cocoa? How much cocoa is grown in Lagos? Why then did you dump cocoa for oil?

Lol.
Politics › Re: Why Are Igbo Towns 98% Indigenous? by italo: 8:36am On Apr 08, 2015
bakynes:
I understand the igbos, they are just trying to defend their tribe but you Igbos shd not live in self-denial it is true you guys are the least accommodating tribe in Nigeria. It is something you pple she be ashamed of and work on it. You barely find other tribes in the Igboland it's a fact from someone who has travelled to Anambra and Imo state. SS is more accommodating than you guys. For those saying igbos are not in other parts of SW am sure you are living in the SE go to Ota and see many igbo shops, go to Dugbe in Ibadan and see Igbo shops.
That Igbo people are everywhere is because of their doggedness and industry, not because their hosts are friendly.

Igbo people are all over the North even though they have been persecuted and killed for decades...are Northerners friendly?

Have we ever heard of Igbos just waking up and killing anyone, whether in the South east or anywhere?

It's not the Igbos fault that Yorubas are not industrious enough to leave their fathers cubicle.
Politics › Re: Why Are Igbo Towns 98% Indigenous? by italo: 8:27am On Apr 08, 2015
tonytony208:
Yoruba's are not better than anybody. Nobody is better than nobody. But everybody must be ready to do to others what they want others to d to them. You can't sideline other tribes in your igboland and come to the southwest expecting to be made governors.
1. Provide evidence that any Yoruba person was prevented from vying for Governorship in Igboland.

2. The constitution of the Federal Republic allows a Nigerian of any ethnic group to vie for governorship in any state. Were Yorubas not part of the drafting of the constitution?

3. Lagos was developed with money that belongs to the whole of Nigeria...and Igbos have long been an integral part of the building of the Lagos formal and informal economy. They are largely responsible citizens who go about trying to earn an honest living. When the average uneducated Igbo boy wakes up, he makes his way to market to hussle even though he doesn't have a shop yet. When the average uneducated Yoruba boy wakes up, he...(you know what agberos do throughout the day.

When that Igbo boy makes it in business and buys a piece of land from a Yoruba man, the Yoruba boy comes around and claims to be "Omo onile."

Then when many Igbo people, as a result of hard work, have established in Lagos, people like you, out of envy begin to insult them.

Up till now, you can't mention their crime.
Politics › Re: Why Are Igbo Towns 98% Indigenous? by italo: 4:37am On Apr 08, 2015
tonytony208:
Are you saying aguiyi ironsi, ojukwu and even gej abandoned your region? How come you still support gej blindly? Is it out of tribal sentiment? Is it the same tribal sentiment that makes you unaccommodating?
If your people haD suffered the persecution that Igbos have suffered in the North in the hand of Islamic extremists, you'd probably have voted for GEJ.

It is small minDedness that makes you think Yorubas are better than anybody, much less Igbos.
Politics › Re: Yoruba Politicians Are Smarter Than Their Igbo Counterparts: Oba Of Lagos Saga by italo: 4:16am On Apr 08, 2015
Ambode anD APC always had the upperhanD in Lagos.

If the Oba's rant does anything, it galvanizes the neutral undecided votes towards Agbaje and PDP, especially Igbos and other non-Yorubas. Also Yoruba votes are divided while Igbo votes aren't.

I think the Oba has just made the race tighter than it should have been.

Tribalism is always foolish in the end.
Politics › Re: Why Are Igbo Towns 98% Indigenous? by italo: 3:56am On Apr 08, 2015
Igbos this, igbos that! What exactly have igbos done wrong to yorubas?

Why the envy?
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op):
Politics › Re: Surround Yourself With ‘Right’ People, Mbaka Tells Buhari by italo: 6:31am On Apr 03, 2015
toprealman:
Engaging your brain is key son!
Same goes for you.
Politics › Re: Surround Yourself With ‘Right’ People, Mbaka Tells Buhari by italo: 11:54pm On Apr 02, 2015
toprealman:
engage your brain dear, he is a mortal being. Who didn't know that GEJ WILL fail?
Now that GEJ has failed, it is easy for any riff-raff to claim he knew GEJ would fail.

3months ago, when Fr Mbaka said it, risking his career, reputation and life over it, GMB didn't look like he had the momentum to win. That's why many found it easy to castigate him.


...and I never said Fr Mbaka is immortal. Engage you eyes.
Politics › Re: Surround Yourself With ‘Right’ People, Mbaka Tells Buhari by italo: 10:05pm On Apr 02, 2015
toprealman:
Remember the Chimaroke prediction? Do a little research.
What was the Chimaroke prediction and where is your evidence of it?
Politics › Re: Surround Yourself With ‘Right’ People, Mbaka Tells Buhari by italo: 9:58pm On Apr 02, 2015
preselect:
it is my Opinion that Rev Fr Mbaka will do well to concentrate on the gospel. . .
It is precisely THE GOSPEL that he is preaching to the leaders and people.

"Do good."
Politics › Re: Gov. Amaechi Observing Palm Sunday. by italo: 9:48pm On Apr 02, 2015
Theultimate:
Why is he in front of priest? Is that not Procession/ Recessional period?
It isn't procession or recessional.

Can you see any crucifix or altar boy there?
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 9:43pm On Apr 02, 2015
ChokolateBoss:
See how u're making urself sound stupid just because u want to win argument.
How can u say being guilty does not constitute direct wrongdoing? If u're guilty of sth, then there's direct wrongdoing involved in that thing u're guilty of.
Guilty pple are culpable of their offence. It follows logically. E.g if u're guilty of theft, then culpability follows. A culpable person is someone who deserves blame or censure. Now if someone actually deserves blame or censure, then d person cannot be innocent cos innocent pple do not deserve blame or censure.

As for ur analogy, its deeply flawed. One cannot be innocent and culpable of a crime at d same time. That's a contradiction. The eyewitness who is scared to expose the robbers will be guilty of obstruction of justice and hence culpable. He won't be guilty of armed robbery or censured for it.

Abeg I've digressed from the OP. Shouldn't be explaining this to a grown asss man sef
That's what you get on nairaland. Shameless people who would rather die than accept a simple truth. What pains me most is that many of them claim to be "Christians."

Christianity built on lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 9:38pm On Apr 02, 2015
U
adsonstone:
Again:



www.democracyweb.org/elections/principles.php

Does Kumuyi's statement conform to that?
Yes or No?

Simple question.
When you answer, we can move to your side of the election story.
NO.

From the link you provided:

Free, Fair, and Regular
As with defining electoral and representative
systems, there are no precise definitions for
regular, free, and fair elections. International
human rights conventions have established a
basic consensus, most importantly Article 21 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states that elections must be periodic, genuine, organized according to universal suffrage, and by secret ballot.

Is the video below what you understand by the bold?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFfQOelXJs&app=desktop



An election in which many INEC State Collation Officers reported rampant hijacking of ballot boxes, card readers, ballot papers, result sheets, and even election officials, substitution of INEC Officials, over-voting...

...Gov Rochas was filmed confronting the Army for locking away eligible voters in his home town, Gov Oshiomhole was seen on TV saying the Army prevented INEC Officers from going to their posts. Gov Amaechi is seen on TV reporting missing result sheets at his PU. Hundreds of thousands couldn't get their PVCs because INEC Staff connived with party agents to steal them.

Is this what the bold means?
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 6:22pm On Apr 02, 2015
ChokolateBoss:
Uwc. To me, Dave Armstrong is d best catholic apologist online. The strength of his logical arguments is simply overwhelming. Its almost impossible to fault his logic. He uses the socratic method in his arguments. This is his blog: socrates58..com. Everything catholic is in there
Already read a little of his blog. You're correct.

One apologist whose style of arguing I love and emulate is John Martignoni.

He knows how to table his argument clearly while making his opponents look stupidd.

Www.biblechristiansociety.com is his site.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 6:14pm On Apr 02, 2015
adsonstone:
Those were simple questions, yet you refused to answer.

Several elections have been tagged 'free and fair' despite reports of disruption in few areas.

The Nigerian 1993 Presidential election is one of such.


A 'free and fair' election does not necessarily mean a 'perfect' election.


Let me help you out.



www.democracyweb.org/elections/principles.php


If the 2015 electoral process conform with the above, Kumuyi is vindicated.


I also noticed how you cunningly ignored the part Kumuyi said that the results will be widely accepted and the votes of Nigerians will count, only attacking a part you're judging by your own definition.

However, you have only tagged it in your mind as 'prophecy,' his speech did not.
Let me help you.

An election in which many INEC State Collation Officers reported rampant hijacking of ballot boxes, card readers, ballot papers, result sheets, and even election officials, substitution of INEC Officials, over-voting...

...Gov Rochas was filmed confronting the Army for locking away eligible voters in his home town, Gov Oshiomhole was seen on TV saying the Army prevented INEC Officers from going to their posts. Gov Amaechi is seen on TV reporting missing result sheets at his PU. Hundreds of thousands couldn't get their PVCs because INEC Staff connived with party agents to steal them.

The definition of the above, according to you and Kumuyi is "Free and fair."

What then is an election that is not free and fair? Perhaps until a nuclear bomb is dropped on the voters.

I leave you to your conscience, if you have one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 3:59pm On Apr 02, 2015
ChokolateBoss:
Lol @ since d time of Jesus's birth.
Sure will follow him now. I like pple who can make intellectually sound logical arguments.
@Italo. Seems u're Catholic. Have u heard of Dave Armstrong?
Yes, I'm Catholic.

I just read about Dave Armstrong after you mentioned him. I'm surprised I never heard of him even though I know many other prominent Catholic converts like him.

Thanks for the compliments.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op):
adsonstone:
That should be answered by you.

You seem to know the meaning of 'free and fair' as used by Kumuyi...and that's you can give a definite answer.

What did he really mean?
Nevermind. When Mbaka spoke you were hounding me.

Now that Kumuyi said something that turned out false, you dunno the meaning of free and fair.

The Nigerian people have used their thumbs to show who is true and who is false.

So I leave you to your conscience...if you have one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi: Election Will Be Free, Fair And Widely Accepted by italo: 1:25pm On Apr 02, 2015
Image123:
What hard evidence? The video is inconclusive, it proves nothing as anything can be argued to be happening there. BTW, I didn't say, and I'm certain Pastor Kumuyi and more enlightened observers do not mean that there is no iota/atom of rigging. But in the OVERALL the election can be said to be good, free and fair. If you check what the INEC and monitoring teams have said, it is so. If you watch that Jennifer Lynne video posted, she said the election was remarkable and the best BUT the incidences should be necessarily noted for improvements in future. There is no utopian national election on planet earth yet. Again, this earth is where angels are saying is filled with God's glory. You need a paradigm shift i guess.
Smh! An election in which the whole world heard many INEC State Collation Officers report over -voting, hijacking of ballot papers, boxes, result sheets, card readers, and even electoral officers themselves. Substitution of INEC staffs, hundreds of thousands couldn't get their PICS because INEC officials connived with parties to seize them. We saw. Gov Oshiomole on TV saying the Army prevented INEC officials from going to their posts. Gov Rochas complained on camera that soldiers locked up eligible voters in his home town, preventing them from voting. Gov Amaechi complained on TV that result sheets had been hijacked.

Yet you call it "FREE and FAIR." That's for you and your conscience.

Then describe an election that is not free and fair.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 11:16am On Apr 02, 2015
adsonstone:
1. What do you mean by 'free and fair?'
2. Is that the video for the whole 2015 general elections?
Use Kumuyi's meaning of "free and fair." Was he right?

No. But it is just one of the evidences I have on the conduct of the elections.

Was the presidential election free and fair?
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 10:41am On Apr 02, 2015
Adsonstone, you didn't say if Kumuyi's prediction that the election would be free and fair was true.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 10:39am On Apr 02, 2015
adsonstone:
Only a guilty person can be vindicated.
adsonstone:
David, a saint, yet sinner, hence vindicated.
Jesus, a saint, yet identified with sinners, hence vindicated.
The Corinthian Church, saints, yet sinners, hence justified.
David & Jesus, innocent, yet culpable, hence vindicated.

It's easy for a 12-year old to grab.

Sorry if that's too big for you to chew.

Perhaps, you should recheck the meaning of these simple words.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:59am On Apr 02, 2015
Morning my people.

Happy Easter Triduum.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 8:10am On Apr 02, 2015
adsonstone:
Only a guilty person can be vindicated.

Congratulations to all Nigerians.
adsonstone:
You don't need to try to mix things up.
David and Jesus were innocent, yet culpable, hence vindicated.
I believe I made myself clear without bias.

Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 7:22am On Apr 02, 2015
jnrbayano:
Good observation about Italo but I'm not surprised at all.

I spotted the guy eons back and have followed him since the time of Jesus's birth in bethlehem. cheesy

Do same and you will learn so much.
You wan dey swell my head be that o.

Happy Easter Triduum!
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 7:21am On Apr 02, 2015
Mee234:
sorry I mean the sun
Here's The Sun Newspaper which talks about Mbaka's 'war' on Nnamani and his other political controversies.

It never says Mbaka said Nnamani would not win a second term.

Is there another Sun Newspaper in Nigeria?
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 6:55am On Apr 02, 2015
adsonstone:
I believe I made my position clear without bias.

Thanks.
That David and Jesus were guilty...since they were vindicated and according to you, "only the guilty can be vindicated."

If the above is your honest opinion, and not a result of hypocritical bias, then you're at best, deluded, and at worst, a blasphemer.

David and Jesus were innocent, hence vindicated.



By the way, your spiritual father, Kumuyi prophesied that the election would be free and fair.

Was the election free and fair? See video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFfQOelXJs&app=desktop
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 6:38am On Apr 02, 2015
ChokolateBoss:
Going through all d posts, one can't help but marvel at Italo's superior logic. Respect! smiley
HopeAlive ur exegesis of d passage about Peter's confession of d messiah is utterly ludicrous. What authority taught u that? Ur self? Ur pastor? Or u got it from d Holy Spirit?
On d Mbaka vs Chimaroke ish, I'd appreciate if anyone can offer d proof Italo is asking for. If u do, fine and good so I know how to make up my mind on that issue. My mind's open.
Thanks bro. My mind is open too. Many priests have been disciplined and/or excommunicated. If Mbaka is a deviant priest, and refuses to change, I want him to face the wrath of the Church, and if he is doing the will of God, I want him to be highly esteemed for that. Simples!

At the moment, I respect him for the content of this particular message...which was true.

Nobody so far has been able to show evidence that he prophesied falsely. We can't punish a man or priest based on hearsay from people who don't like him.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 6:27am On Apr 02, 2015
Mee234:
google no dey where u dey. huu, I forgot u are a catholic hence the need to excuse u priest. un newspaper did a piece on mbaka and nnamani.
This has nothing to do with my being Catholic or Hindu or even Atheist. As a Catholic, I'm even more worried about him than you are. I want to know the truth about him. One day, I might find myself attending mass with him...if he claims to have visions from God which are lies, I want to know so I don't take him serious. If he has transgressed the laws of the Church, I want to know so I can join those calling for his bishop to caution him.

You said you read that Mbaka said Nnamani would not be governor for 2nd term from "Un Newspaper."

I have never heard of that Paper. Is in an Enugu-based paper...or is it based in your bedroom?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi: Election Will Be Free, Fair And Widely Accepted by italo: 6:07am On Apr 02, 2015
Image123:
That's the point.
What's what point?

The man said election would be free and fair.

I showed hard evidence that election wasn't free and fair.

What are you on about?
Christianity Etc › Re: Fr Mbaka Has Been Vindicated. by italo(op): 11:41pm On Apr 01, 2015
Mee234:
u are probably living in mass if u do not read about mbaka issue with nnamani.
Where did you read that he said what you claimed?

Is that too much to ask?

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