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WisdomFlakes:
We will know which tribe owns Lagos when kasala bursts and yi.bos begin to flee in droves back to SE. They did it during Biafra and June 12. The Yorubas remained in their land and fought Abacha and paid with their blood while the opportunistic igbos fled to the East.

This thread has nothing to do with Igbos. There is no need to start talking about spilling their blood when they have done you no wrong.

Please, reason like a human being, not an animal.

ayindejimmy:
the Aworis are not warriors but peace loving people. That was why they gave in easily to the Oba of Benin. But the Colonial masters had put an end to all that.
The Aworis and Eguns have been in Lagos from time immemorial

The Aworis came from Ile-ife.

Some will say they were cowards for giving in easily to the Oba's war expedition.

Some accounts say they had earlier attacked a Benin trade expedition.

That would make them cowards, not peace loving.

Twistaray:
Could you please tell us the meaning of enugu,anambra,aba,imo in Igbo language?

Tiiiiikn u

This thread has nothing to do with Igbos. It is not Igbos that said Lagos belongs to no tribe. It's Lagos State Govt.

Re-read the OP

splashbaby:
OK Bini and the Aworis(Yoruba) can lay claim to Lagos and not those ill informed heegbos.

MugabeRobert:
The ibos displaying acute infrority complex and extremely low self esteem all over the place.
If I should get one dollar for every ibo thread on Lagos, I should be richer than Dangote.

WisdomFlakes:
The flat heads will never learn. Na so Dem do sotay the indigenes of Port Harcourt seized their properties after the civil war calling it "abandoned property".Upon all their noise till today they are yet to reclaim a single property back from the ikwerres. It's like they are a cursed race, trouble follows them about. Be prepared for the PH treatment folks . We will treat your fo.ckups

Please guys, there is no need to insult Igbos over this thread.

This thread has nothing to do with Igbos.

This thread is just to prove that no tribe can claim Lagos....and that even the Oba of Lagos who claims to own Lagos is from Benin Lineage. Even "Eko" is a Benin word.

This is not just my view, but the view of Lagos State Government.

baby124:
Please respect yourself. Lagos has indegenes, just like any other place in Nigeria. Dont disrespect Lagosians. Thanks.

There is nothing like Oba of Benin. Before the Benin people came, the indigenes were there. When they were kicked out, the indigenes were still there.

Enough of your shameless display of Stu8pidity. There is no where in the world that is a no man's land. Stop the delusion and accept reality so that if future you will not be taken by surprise.

Open your eyes and read what the Lagos State Govt itself said: "no tribe can claim Lagos."

It's not me that said it. Why are you attacking me?

History of Lagos State


Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm" or Eko ("war camp", by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko. Till today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Kings in Lagos State and his status is different from other Oba's most of whom were later given back their crowns and staff of office only within the last 40 years and have various classifications. Suffice it to state that those who got their crowns back were the original land owners. These were Olofin's children. Moreover, modern day Lagosians have so intermingled that no single tribe or people can claim it even though the predominant language is Yoruba. The present day Lagos state has a higher percent of this sub-group who allegedly migrated to the area from Isheri along the Ogun river.
 

History has it that the Awori were actually from Ife the cradle of Yorubaland. The Awori people are a peaceful people initially not taken to warfare. Due to war, those from the hinterlands, like the Ekiti ran towards Isheri which at that time had more than one Olofin (Alafin)who were heads of probably respective settlements about 1400AD. With the fleeing people from the hinterlands most of them scattered again to different places, some to Iro, to Otta, Ado, others to Ebute Metta i.e three landing places - Oyingbo, Iddo and Lagos Island (Eko). The Olofin that brought those who went to Ebute-Metta was Ogunfunminire later known as Agbodere. With the full commencement of the war about 2000 moved to the nearest island of Iddo, others to Otto Awori or Otto Ijanikin towards modern-day Badagry. Those from Ekiti Aramoko came to Ebute-Metta, Iddo and then Ijora. The Olofin was said to have 32 children. His own known children are Olumegbon, Aromire, Oloto, Oluwa, Oniru, Onisiwo, Onitoolo, and Elegushi. Ojora, Onikoyi and Mogiso were not his biological children. After the demise of Agbodere, the name Olofin became the name used to remember him while a title of Oloto was given to his seccessor. With one of his sons becoming the Oloto his other children parted ways to what is known as visible settlements in the present day Lagos. Aromire whose name means defeated the river or became the river's friend is likely to be the first to cross being said to have swam across the river. It is possible that his real name is not Aromire but due to the feat he became known as such.

Until the coming of the Bini's, Lagos's geographic boundary was what is known now as Lagos Mainland. Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos then consisted of a pepper farm and fishing posts. No one lived there though. The name Eko was given to it by its first King Oba Ado during its early history, it also saw periods of rule by the Kingdom of Benin.[1] Eko was the land area now known as Lagos Island where the king's palace was built. The Palace is called Iga Idunganran which, translated means Palace built on the pepper farm. Oba Ado and the warriors from Benin as well as some of the indigenous people who sought safety settled down in the southern part of Eko called "Isale Eko", Isale literarily meaning bottom, but must have been used to indicate downtown (as in Downtown Lagos).

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8

spenca:
Do you want to compare the rate of Igbos on London to the Yorubas ? Go and check the stats on the website of the Nigerian's embassy to the UK ,go to Aba and go check the miscreants on the road, go and check the names of Nigerians convicted in Malaysia and Indonesia for drugs trafficking related offenses then come back and tell me the Igbo - Yoruba ratio. Till then cheers mate

Point is: Millions of Yorubas are jobless miscreants and Yorubas go out of their land too. So your theory about them being sufficient flies out the window.

I have never claimed there are no miscreants in Aba of Igbo drug traffickers.

We must reason analytically.

spenca:
Majority of people you see abroad ,US,UK,China , Belgium are Igbos ,that is their nature they don't go there claiming ownership of the country that aside ,your point about Yorubas not been around the country only simplifies it more to you that the Yoruba clan are quite sufficient on their own and which has accelerated their development above their peers , it is Just a hard line

They aren't sufficient, just lazy.

You call all those jobless miscreants (agberos) and yahoo boys sufficient?

If Yorubas were sufficient, why are they all over London?

They go there in the hope of making fast money through fraudulent means.

Octaves:
No offence, but Do you have another ready for him.

Is this what you would say if you saw him in a cage?

Yes, slave workers were found locked in cages somewhere in South East Asia.

Sorry about the strength of my language. I'm telling you the exact thing I would tell my brother.

No time for sugar-coating.

Waspy:
Hmmm Bask in your pseudo-euphoria. Wallow in your delusion of grandeur and self aggravadicement. The sensibility that gets you guys nowhere other than another man's backyard.

Even if you use big words that you cannot spell, the average Igbo 10 year old would still see himself as more sensible than your grand father and your Oba.

They generally feel superior, not inferior.

hurricaneChris:
But I am here nah.
Or am I not?

Good morning friends

...and...and me too.

Morning all.

Kamsified, if you want to insult us, insult us...


Stop blowing grammar and saying "my daddy's voice."

Octaves:
My family is a staunch catholic family, that's why we are bothered. He attends 6a.m mass every sunday b4 going there. Catholic church doesnt give jobs. Just pray you don't fall into such temptation.

I can't judge your brother. Sorry if I sounded judgemental.

I know exactly what I'm talking about because I have quit two jobs just because they demanded I do things contrary to my faith.

The Catholic Church might not give jobs, but as a "staunch Catholic" you should know it gives life eternal. No job is worth risking your soul.

No job in the world can make me willfully disrespect the Blessed Sacrament by receiving a 'fake version' from some other place.

If it were I, it would be obvious to me that this is the devil's trick to distract me from the Church.

Also, bear in mind that a staunch Catholic family doesn't necessarily translate to actively practising Catholic family members. You can go to mass everyday with your family and queue for communion, even though you aren't allowed the teachings of the Church pass through you...and you don't live everyday by the faith. But I want to believe your family's faith is alive.

Pray for your brother. I will pray for him to.

There is nothing God cannot do.

OP please acknowledge the website you got the article from.

fromnigeria:
You have a point,
The attitude of thinking they own everything and everywhere 'me no support all', its not right, You can't come to my father's land and tell me you are a bonafide this and that hence you own part of it, Simply because you leaved there for long.
Nobody go take am. The Igbo should think deep.
Meanwhile, Festus To Commetus abi how them de speak am again.

You have never read the constitution of the Federal Republic

Maybe you, OP and FFK need to educate yourselv

Any Nigerian has aright to live, work,and prosper in any part of Nigeria...and Yorubas were party to that constitutio

you can't share the benefits from other regions, e.g oil money, then turn around and say "Lagos is my own."

That would be cheating. Greed. Betrayal.

The Niger Deltans claim "the oil is our own." can you pay them back the oil money spent on Lagos from the beginning?

Octaves:
I heard my brother got a job at a maintainance firm in Warri. I came back for Easter and on sunday after attending holy saturday vigil mass (we are catholics), in the morning, he dressed up for service at some other church. I asked why he was going there, and he started explaining that it was part of the job he took- the employers wife is the owner of the church and the man makes it compulsory for every one of his employees to attend else a certain amount will be deducted from your salary. If you don't come during weekdays to cut grass and do cleanup, money will also be deducted. I fail to understand how a human (sb that calls himself a man of God) would violate people freedom of religion like that all in the name of job. The most annoying part is that he forces them to receive communion. That is particularly worrying because you don't know what really you are receiving especially there is tattle that the man could be an ogboni man. The money being deducted ranges from about 5k to 15k and the salary is about 50k. So I need advice.

You see? This is what happens when "Catholics" don't actively practise their faith.

They become like balloons that can be blown by any wind to any corner.

No actively practising Catholic will even contemplate this.

I for one would die of starvation before I do this.

@tonytony208,

You are doing a disservice to yourself with these childish abuses you think are a reasonable argument.

Thank God I know many Yorubas who are far more intelligent than you...I could have had the wrong impression of the whole tribe.

tonytony208:
Whatever you are doesn't matter. If you dare, don't pay omo onile when they come calling. If Yoruba's are not accommodating, you won't be in the southwest today.

If Igbos are not accomodating, Yorubas wouldn't be in the South east today...but they are there.

Again you exhibit small mindedness. How do you know I'm in the South west?

If your yoruba omo oniles who you probably see as all powerful see soldiers at my site, would they come within 100 meters of the place?

Waspy:
Igbos might be successful, at least in business, but the truth is.... An average Igbo man has Inferiority Complex, hence the numerous defence mechanisms such as Anger tantrums, Being overtly selfconcious, sPlaying the victim, Trying to measure up/ standing up to unknown (unnecessary) competition.

Some are cool tho

you're wrong. The average 10 year old Igbo boy believes he is more sensible than your grand father and Oba Akio lunch put together.

That's superiority, not inferiority.

mercyville:
Basically because Ibos are cannibals.90% percent of Ibos are documented cannibals.......And another reason which I learnt from an easterner-IBO-is because they have a multitude of AMOSUN there......

Mention just one Igbo who is a "documented cannibal."

lexio:
You lie. I was Mia, a remote village in Bauchi State recently. I was surprised to see Igbos setting up businesses there. Also, go to Uhiele village in Ekpoma, Edo state and see Igbos living in mud houses. Their children even speak the indigenous language even more than the locals. The Igbos are everywhere. The igbos are mostly hostile to non-indegenes.

One example of such hostility?

Teejizzle:
yoruba do not go to the se because of lack of opportunity there.
we will rather travel out of the contry than go to the SE.
have u seen what they contribute to the national coffers?
their land is cursed, hence, they run away from it.

So since Nigerians travel to Europe more than Europeans come here, Nigeria is cursed?

Get a brain!

KingTom:
Which tribe calls "Ofe mmanu" "Enwe Abo.ki" "Nwa mmong"

You miss the point. I'm not the one who hypocritically complained of name-calling.

Read the previous posts and THINK.

Think like a human being.

chrisbaba1:
No be today.... I've always known the igbos to play the victim card.... What's with the perpetual disrespect for others culture too? The name calling.... Would have been okay if it was just very few examples I have but its profoundly becoming a characteristic of the ndigbo in recent times....

Where did Igbos disrespect your culture?

When did Igbos become the only tribe that engages in name-calling? Which tribe calls another "Omo nna" "mola" in a derogatory way?

Remove hate from your heart, then you will start to think?

dapsonlou:
Igbos always claim Yorubas are dirty, that's because most Igbos live in the Getto .. Working hard in Lagos and sending all your money back to your Village. Only the Enlighten ones realize that Yorubas are Good people and Get himself a Decent accommodation or even build a house in Lagos. when all the Yorubas you know are poor, you can not use that to Judge

Guy...poverty has nothing to do with cleanliness.

A pig is a pig.

Note that I'm not here to prove that Igbos are better than Yorubas. I'm here to show that believing that one tribe is better than the other is a stupid thing.

Yes they have their strong points and downsides.

When it comes to Yorubas and dirtiness...let's not go there. lol

chrisbaba1:
so what is it? Would be nice to know.... its like a baby crying so loud, u offee milk he rejects, you give him fresh air he continues.... you imagine the frustration of the mother (Nigeria). ... if only you guys can make your desires known instead of reacting in hatred all the time. .... The only thing you can't have yet on a platter is the biafra you seek..... south Sudan is an example.

The thing is Igbos don't even complain to you. They just go about their business trying to earn a living.

In the last two weeks, it's been others crying.

They cried when Igbos voted Jonathan...

...this time, their Oba cried even before election.

Why the 'busy-body?'

Igbo this...Igbo that!

Why the envy?

zyphr:
There you go again my friend. Would you leave Nigeria for Kenya or cotedevoire if not for an opportunity of a better Living? Or would a sensible Nigerian go to Kenya to earn a meagre living if he has the opportunity of being a millionaire in Nigeria? The term 'greener pasture is subjective and not universal, meaning I might see the opportunity of making millions in Somalia wich is one of the poorest countries in the world, the opportunity is my greener pasture.
Your analogy of Nigerian /Kenya does not hold water except you want us to believe that the igbo man can have as much opportunity(Greener pasture) in his village as in Lagos or any other south Western state.

What is your point?

ThisMeansWAR:
Who wants to go to landlocked region with rampaging cannibals. ?

Not me

This one's reasoning is blocked by hatred.

zyphr:
No my friend, it is a testament of the benovalence of the yoruba man. The igbos cant get from thier land what the get in the yoruba mans land hence thier migration to these places. You may want to live in denial but the truth remains that man is always in search for greener pasture and it is obvious that the yoruba mans land supports greener pasture than the igbo mans land. Case closed!!!

There are more Yorubas/Nigerians in Kenya than there are Kenyans in Yoruba land/Nigeria.

You're saying Kenya supports greener pastures than Yorubaland/Nigeria.

Same goes for Cote d'ivoire.

Come out of your tribal/sentimental cave and think.

Yorubas are no better than any tribe on earth...certainly not Igbos.

tonytony208:
Does the oil belong to Igbo? No, it belongs to the south south. So, you have no claim on it. Yes the oba of lagos is drunk, but your empty and useless igwes in alaigbo can never reach where oba of lagos has reached or will reach in life. It is not a curse, it is reality. When next the omo onile ask for money, don't pay them, ok? And just see what will happen to you and the land you claim belong to you. OSU!!!

See your small mindedness? You assume I'm Igbo because I'm arguing in their favour so far.

So Oba of Lagos has reached everywhere on earth and if I don't pay your Yoruba Omo oniles, they will prevent me from building a house...


...yet 'Yorubas are accomodating.'

Congrats to Yorubas.

Smh!

ibedun:
The land is leased to you sir. It is yours to occupy for 99 years. That will be changing to about 30 years now.

Then why claim the land before 99 years is over?

Why then did they take my money?

Are they crooks?

zyphr:
Oya clap for yourself for such a sensible post. Go to the thick forest of Ise-ekiti bodering ekiti and Ondo state, you will find several over forty year old Ibo born and brought up there with some even having a cocoa and palm plantation of thier own. This Ise-ekiti story is replicated is several southwestern states. Am not a southwesterner but I will say that the yorubas are the most accomodating and peace loving set of Nigerians i have met so far. So long as you are hardworking you can stay in any part of the south west make money and acquire properties of your choice. I am not sure a yoruba man can have a plantation in Ibo land. My 1 cent.

The bold is a compliment and testament to Igbos' industry.

Now did a Yoruba man offer money to buy a farmland in Igboland and the Igbo owner refuse him on ethnic grounds?

Or did the Yoruba man plant plantain and the Igbo man uproot it on ethnic grounds?

Are we to blame Igbos for Yoruba laziness?