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naijaboiy:
Lol @Role models.

Ok when you shout and insult your husband you're a good role model to your kids abi?
Especially if you have a daughter?

Nice

The way she has been throwing insults around, you can tell the kind of role model she has/had.

zaragal:
Exactly now Dats the point, a man is the head of the home, he needs wisdom to run it, starting with his wife down to the kids, beating ur woman isn't wisdom?? Hw ll ur kids see u?? Will dey tag u an awesome daddy?? One who is beating my mum?? Ofcos not! We re meant to b role models to our own children, a man needs God's wisdom to run his home, starting frm managing a woman, ofcos women cn be reckless and naive @ times but dey re things I fear more Dan physical abuses. Wen d man I love gets to shout @ man and say "mirabel! Wat ask cum over u," my head reboot and am good on my knee again , now every man needs to find a way to handle dere woman, u cn shout to communicate, u cn punish her by keeping out late and hanging out wit friends make her so lonely, u cn even eat outside or refuses things she offer for a day or two jst a little emotional things will work! And she ll regret her wrongs, but beating a woman doesn't make u the best man!!... no woman is ever proud dat their men beat dem up? even tho dey love him

Ok. A woman is free to abuse the man how she chooses...and the kids will see her as a good mum...

But if the man retaliates the way he chooses, he becomes a horrible husband and father.

You are wise indeed.

zaragal:
Pls tell dat to italo and naijaboiy, dey re looking for an angelic woman, dey want to marry a woman who dey treat like DAUGHTERS not WIFE

I'm not looking for a woman to treat like a daughter. I want to treat her like a wife. But not your kind of wife who expects a man to be the one to teach her how to behave like a decent woman.

That's your mother's job.

zaragal:
U type Lyk an idiat, who on earth doesn't get angry?? Do u hav ur male friends beat u wen u re mad @ dem don't u think men cn b so annoying to their ladies!!... if u hav nothing good to say don't quote me, I was making a comments, I didn't stop u frm making urs, idiat!!

I'm just trying to tell you that you should be able to behave like a human being without a guy reprimanding you physically or non-physically.

Truckpusher:
Quit watching telemundo and face reality.

No blame telemundo abeg. Babe wey no get sense no get sense.

rubey:
We are women for christ sake, we are suppose to nag! That's how we keep reminding you to stop that silly thing we don't like. Men shouldn't shout, you should take care of the situation!

We are men, we are supposed to beat. That's how we take care of the situation.

Now how that sound to ya?

davien:
Good for you then, the rest of us don't style with "god did it"...

I know. "Nothing did it. It all just happened out of nothing."



Maybe someday I'll have enough faith to believe that.

To all the women judging men who hit women...one question.

If your brother's wife hits and physically humiliates your mother in his presence, and he hits his wife, would you condemn him?

zaragal:
See hw it goes for my and my ex boyfriend, sometimes I get reckless And naive, I act up and go nasty but he has dis thunder voice once he rolls and yelled @ me, my brain rearrange and I come back to my senses and apologise and den we hug eachoda and he says am sorry dat he doesn't hav any oda harsh means of knocking some senses into my head, now dat walks for us, we dated a long tym and he neva brought his hand close to my cheek even wen he is dead angry, now dat works! U don't need to beat ur woman to communicate, find strategies to make her listen! Find something to make her calm or behave, but beating ur wife doesn't make u more of a man, it makes u 100% less and more of a coward, u derive ur strength wen u cn handle a woman's recklessness without having to lay a hand on her Dats wen u can talk of being a man, and believe me dere re 101 ways to beat a woman without physical abuses, without talking her, I her u she ll beat herself up, one of my ex use to beat me up without hav to talk me, believe me dat guy has strategies on hw to deal with women, so figure out to deal with ur woman without physical abuses else u re not worthy to be a man. U re nothing less dan a COWARD

You think it's okay for you to do and say all sorts of nasty things then expect the guy to do the math on how to make you sane?

Smh! The coward is the one who cannot face herself and clean up her acts without a man's input.

Go look in the mirror.

davien:
The bible makes the claim of the "god" you worship and in it,it terms human beings as being made in "the image of god".....

I always employ fair skepticism to every theist....I want you to define your terms....the attributes I listed in my response to you(on a different subject) were alleged attributes(i even indicated that they were)....so do you agree with those alleged attributes or do you have yours?
Should I be seeking false information?...you claimed this below

And I asked you what a "perfectly truthful being" would be, because there is no theme I know of that qualifies..
You made positive statements here as though they were facts and I queried you on them...
No I can't,because it is a totally subjective experience(atleast in the context you're asking)

To be frank, I don't intend to try to prove God's existence to you because I dont think you are ready for it.

I came here to tell you what I know for sure.

You are free to keep searching for meaning all over the place.

Many of us have found the essence of life long ago.

ABEngine:
Correct guy! I no see this post o.. You sure say one week no too much

One week na for gf wey no dey live with you...for wife wey you dey live with...3days dey over-okay.

superman01:
guy they need to put u behind bars. u no get mama? or u think say women na maids? they deserve to be listened to, understood and respected

This is my problem with some people who fight against beating women. They seem to suggest that it is okay for a man to beat a fellow man...or a maid...etc. Most women that say a woman should not be hit will hit another woman if she catches her with her husband. Most of them dont even know that women hit men more than men hit women...just that men seldom complain. They dont know that the scars of verbal aggression are often deeper and longer lasting than that of physical aggression.

Why can't we just condemn physical and verbal aggression in society?

davien:
Can you tell us all what a "god" is and how you deduced it to be the "author" of nature?

By learning and experiencing what I learnt...just like you deduced all you know.
[quote author=davien post=29975641]So how does something that is termed by you as "perfect truth and love",responsible for beings like us that lack "perfect truth and love"

There's no law that says the creature must have the full properties of the creator. Correct me if I am wrong.

davien:
You seem to be pushing an ideology here, can you explain how the unknown(which we cannot find) is evident of an as yet undefined "god"?

You say "undefined" yet you associate him with omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience.

davien:
I doubt I or anyone has the idea of what a " perfectly truthful being" would be,can you tell us anything concrete about where the idea of this being originated and how you know it to be true...

Do you want me to be perfectly truthful in answering you? Why do you want this? You got it from nature?

davien:
The term varies in contexts.....perfect may mean consistency...perfect may mean completion....perfect may mean alot of things....so the ball is in your court to tell us which aspect best applies to this idea of yours...

We are constantly seeking perfection in other humans, for example. That's why we are hurt when a spouse who has never lied to us tells just one lie.

Is the above kind of perfection achievable? If not, why are we hardwired to seek it.

*I'm not trying to prove the existence of God to you. I'm only telling you what I know to be the reason for our fascination with beauty and environment. You are free to keep seeking the answer all over the place...or to believe that beauty is the absence of fear like plaeton said...or anything else.

If you want proof for the existence of God I think you should open another thread.

Can you explain how the environment is beautiful and how it captivates you? (I can ask questions too)

Skelefish and Kurupt1, abeg make una try not to dey hit anybody, especially women.

E no dey make sense.

Woman own easy sef...to ignore them dey chook dem pass pin...pass to beat them.

If your wife or gf annoy you and you want make she run mad, no touch am, no beat am, no shout on top am.

Just ignore, avoid her. If she no run mad after one week my name no be italo.

prettyjo:
observing.
this world is really an irony.
most of the people saying they can't tolerate such might be actually enjoying the beating

Na them their mouth dey sharp pass. I know many in real life.

"I can't take this from a guy." "I can't take that from a guy."

All lies! They take far worse.

Nneka123:
Any woman who stays with a man who beats her up, believing he loves her, is on her own. Infact she is silly!

and any man who will lay his hands on me won't see his balls again!

To me, woman beaters are just cowards! they can't beat their fellow men, but their whole straight will come out when beating up a woman!

Don't judge all women who stay with a man who beats them.

That's how many of them naively judged the women before them.

Hollamydey:
any man that beats a woman is an animal!

Don't judge all the men that have hit women. You've never been in their shoes.

rubey:
The day a guy tries to lay his hands on me, it ends that very second he makes an attempt. Infact a guy who shouts at women is more likely to be a wife beater and there are lots of them here on nairaland

If a guy you love puts his hand on you, you won't go anywhere.

You're probably talking out of inexperience and naivety.

Experienced ladies will scoff at you and tell you better.

*I don't support abuse of any kind...be it physical abuse from a man or verbal abuse from a woman. They're just as bad as each other.

finofaya:
Can God even experience awe? Being the creator of everything, I don't think he can find anything captivating. If the greatest mind in the universe cannot be awed by anything, you have to wonder whether there is any thing that is truly awe inspiring.

Where did God tell you he can't be awed?

Because we and the environment share the same author - God.

God alone is perfect truth, perfect love and perfect beauty.

When we seek perfect truth, love and beauty in his creature (which we cannot find), it is we innately seeking God the perfect one.

E.g why would a man want his partner to never liie to him? Where does he get the idea of a perfectly truthful being?

Where does humanity even get the word "perfect" from...when nothing in the physical world is perfect?

Abuamam:
And those if the other messengers of Allah; like Nuh, Musa and Isa etc. (may peace be upon them all); ie, when we can get the ORIGINALS of what they taught.



No one is claiming that they died there. They could have died anywhere. That disproves nothing. I can live and build a house in Nigeria, then go and die in China. Does that prove that I did not build a house in Nigeria?

The Bible is not a reliable source, having no credible authorship or chain of narrators. Even if we want to accept its accuracy, it did not prove any thing to the contrary of what Islam says. If anything, it supports the Islamic narrative:

Genesis 21:19-22
"Then God opened her (Hagar's) eyes, and she saw a well of water (Zamzam?). So she went and filled a skin with water and gave the boy (Ismail) a drink. God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. While he was living in the desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt.

This shows you that Ismail grew up in Paran... no? So where is Paran? Let us see what the Bible has to say:

Deuteronomy 33:2
"He said; the Lord came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir. He shone forth from Mt Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the South. From his right hand went a fiery law for them.

The South of Sinai? The actual location of this mountain remains a confusion for Christians. Even though Paul made it clear for them:

Galatians 4:25
" 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children."

Mount Sinai is in Arabia (traditionally, Arabs have referred to Jabal al Laws as the Mt Sinai of the prophet Musa), Mt Paran is South of Mt Sinai. Hagar and Ismail grew up in Paran.

The Bible even goes on to say that the prophets Musa and Haarun took the Israelites through Paran (Numbers 13:13-26). The prophet Dawud did go to the wilderness of Paran. So that they could have performed the pilgrimage is not at all far-fetched... that an OT wiyh a strong Jewish bias did not state it, does not preclude its having happened... and God knows best. Again, I point out that Biblical authorship is largely unknown. I just wish to show you that your Bible accepts it.

Wikipedia has more to say about the Biblical Paran.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_of_Paran

Bros...muslims believe in visions or muslims dont believe in visions?

Which one should we take?

Bidam:
Like i said the sin is unbelief. So who are they?

Where does the Bible mention unbelief?

Bidam:
Question: Is it those folks that supports the roots? The truth is when you consistently walk in sin, it is not God that runs away.It is actually you that leaves God. e.g Cain and the prodigal son. The sin mentioned there is unbelief. Until you get to that point when you openly declare you don't need God anymore that's when the cut off comes not the other way round.

We are saved by the grace of God.

We stand in the grace of God.

We grow in the grace of God.

We can't outgrow the grace of God.

The moment you start coming to God by a self righteous effort of works as a right standing before God italo, then you are missing it.

I dont understand.

My question was "are they believers or unbelievers?"

Bidam, ichuka, 5solas and others...

Who are those Gentiles Paul says will be cut off if they dont continue in kindness in Romans 11?

Are they Christians or unbelievers?

Let the OP send her letter to the parents of the Chibok girls.

Rubbish!

Abuamam:
Delirium tremens. Lol.

Stop wasting your time. We muslims do not believe in visions. Any devil can come and tell you "I am Jesus, I am God. Do this and that".

Incidentally, all these ex-muslims that form movements and so on, end up being fraudulent. They know how gullible christians can be, so they cook up the kind of unsubstantiable story that christians love to hear, then make a living off the story. Any unscrupulous muslim can do it.

419 things.

That is, if christians didn't cook up the story themselves, as they have been known to do.

Still 419 things anyhow.

Except Muhammad's visions.

I invite each one
of you to ask yourselves, 'Have I learned
how to weep, how to cry when I see a
hungry child, a child on the street who uses
drugs, a homeless child, an abandoned
child, an abused child, a child that society
uses as a slave?” He said

If we all did the above, there would be no children in such conditions.

It is man that brings such hardship on man, not God. And man does it when he rejects God's teachings above.

Good morning people. God bless you.

Empiree:
Sister, permit me to say this, pls. Pls dont apologise for anything. You did nothing wrong. You and countless other muslims are not responsible for actions of clowns. No apologies, pls. Doing that ridicules you.

Many people of other faith commit crimes. Their crimes are attached to them only. Feel no guilt. You are absolutely not answerable for anyone's mischieves. Get over it. These non-muslim fellows you are apologetic towards know very well Islam is not the cause. They chose to blame religion. Get over apologies. Enough said

It is just a coincidence that from Italy to france to Yemen to Kenya to Somalia to Nigeria to Cameroun to Saudi to Iraq to Syria to UK to Spain to Libya to Egypt to Algeria to Pakistan to Afghanistan to Turkey to to just about anywhere you can find a handful of Muslims...people are beign bombed and shot and mutilated and raped and enslaved...and the cry is almost always "ALLAHU AKBAR!"

sameera025:
I am from Northern Nigeria, my relatives are in the north, I visit yearly, I schooled in the North so you can't say I know nothing of it. I also commend yoruba muslims for their peace and exemplary practices. I am not here trying to convert anyone to Islam. I am asking for peace between muslims an Christians. I've provided a platform for questions to be asked about Islam for those who want to understand it.

The bold is strange. Any neutral uninformed person reading would think that Christians are at war with Muslims.

No. Muslims are at war with everyone and everything good everywhere.

You don't need to tell Christians to be peaceful. We already are.

You need to tell fellow Muslims to stop trying to kill everyone who doesn't submit to Allah.

Even satan worshippers are more peaceful than Muslims.

I do not mean that every Muslim is involved but I have reason to believe that a good number of Muslims are either terrorists or tacitly support the terrorists in one way or another.

shdemidemi:
Very possible, but that don't make them dead to the spirit, does it?.As one of the spirit you are motivated by things of the spirit just as one in the flesh is with things of the flesh. One in the flesh will hardly feel a sense of guilt while one of spirit will always be pricked by what they know about the Word.

1John5:16: "There is sin that leads to death."

Keep fooling yourself.

shdemidemi:
He chose some by Grace--- Free gift of salvation

The Jewish nation botched it but they were never justified. However, God still have them in His plan according to promise. The promise to the churh is better, way better than the promise to the nation of Israel. The bible says they have only stumbled, they will rise as a nation when the fullness of Gentile
Romans 11:25
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in

So when it comes to God's promise to the elect/the church, it is sealed. But the Gentile world as a whole is getting to a place where Israel was when they crucified their king. Paul was sending a message to the Gentile world and not to the saved christians.

The Bible says Abraham was justified.

Who should we believe, the Bible or a confused heretic?