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adeniyitheprof:
I just downloaded the video of what you posted above, watched and felt pity for the members of the church. False doctrines and strange teachings are not only found in the Catholic Church but also rampant in many other churches and religions.

I have posted and decried a lot of these doctrines of deception and destruction via https://www.facebook.com/adeniyi.taiwo1. So it is not a new thing!

So Catholics who compiled the Bible are teaching falsehood...

Protestants who broke away from them are teaching falsehood...

Joshua and all the Israelites who bowed before images were teaching falsehood...

Moses who carved a bronze serpent was teaching falsehood...

Maybe God who told him to carve it was also teaching falsehood.

The only person in the history of the world who teaches the truth is adeniyitheprof.

Prof that knows more than God and his Church.

And eating grass and digesting it with petrol is okay when your pastor idol says so.

Praying and bowing down before pastor is okay

oneda:
[size=16pt][color=#990021]The warning is simple 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.[/color][/size]

What about the images of the Ark and the bronze serpent...are they idols?

God is not against bowing before images.

adeniyitheprof:
I did not post this topic in order to force anyone to accept what the Bible unequivocally states but to let many be aware or remind them of impending dangers of such detestable action and many other doctrines. There is NO excuse (like I didn't know or my priest did not explain to us or because my parents and millions are still doing it) for anyone who does this act before the LORD God.

Someone once said: "The best way to reach our Catholic friends with the gospel of grace is to pray that the Holy Spirit will draw them and that they will respond to the Spirit’s leading. Their eyes and hearts are blinded by the false teaching they are continually hearing, and, until they begin to seek the truth, we must leave it in God’s capable hands." However, that will stop many from spreading the undiluted truth and from denouncing any lie, deception or false teachings and doctrines from the pit of Hell

ANOTHER GREAT FALSE TEACHING WITH PICTURES WILL BE CREATED AS TOPIC HERE ON NAIRALAND SOON

No wonder the Bible clearly teaches that Mary is alive (John 11:27)...and that she knows fully (1Cor13:12)...and that she is "like God" (1John3:2)...and that saints carry prayers to God (Rev 5:.

Because it was compiled by these Catholics who preach false doctrine...right?

adeniyitheprof:
As per the Rev 12, it is definitely not Mary and do not need to argue about that. Please open your Bible and study (not just read on Nairaland) the many times in the Bible where Israel, Zion or Jerusalem is represented as woman (Isa 54:1-6, Jer 3:20, Eze 16:8-14 and Hos 2:19-20).

Because John plainly says this is a SIGN, we don't expect this woman to appear literally on earth. God will use this SIGN to communicate something to John and to us.

The Bible says "upon her head a crown of twelve stars", what do the TWELVE STARS represent to you if you say Mary is the woman and you should relate your answer to the chapter. The TWELVE STARS are the tribes of Israel which, in the old testament, is related to JOSEPH's dream in Gen 37:9-11.

If I really want to explain in details the Chapter 12 of the book of Revelations, I will need to create another thread for it and that will be later by God's grace.

The book of Revelations is not to be read and interpreted like textbooks or newspapers because many things in this book represent great symbols and signs which takes the grace and the Spirit of God to interpret them.

For example, in Rev 5:6, we read that the slain Lamb is having (SEVEN HORNS) and (SEVEN EYES).

Literally or to a lay man, it is impossible or such Lamb is an evil one because how could a Lamb have Seven Horns and Seven Eyes but they are really great signs which represent something else entirely. Hmm!

As per Rev 5:8, the interpretation given by the brother is not correct sir.
If you say that the FOUR and TWENTY elders are the saints like Mary and other saints of Christ, why are they having the prayers of the saints again? Which saints again? Why and how was Mary singled out of the 24 elders (as you agree that Mary is part of the elders) and Catholics decided to pray to her? Scripturally, can a woman become an elder?

Wow! Book of revelation is really a book of mysteries which the inspiration and the power of Holy Spirit to expose accurately.

Rev 5 8 is clear proof of saints intercession. The elders are saints in heaven...carrying the prayers of saints on earth.

If the 24 elders are not saints, what are they?

Demons?

Also, what is the name of the woman that was pregnant and gave birth to Jesus?

adeniyitheprof:
Hahahahahaha......

Because of "WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM" found in 1 John 3:2, you have concluded that Mary should be prayed to and that she hears your prayers.

Do you know what? You and other Catholics do prove to me that the level of one's education is never a yardstick to understand the Bible (which is definitely not) and that it takes the grace of God to understand and accept God's standards - Holiness, Truth and Righteousness and to discard the worldly or strange traditions or doctrines in this present generation of diverse perversions.

The way and manner you have justified your prayers to Mary has also justified the strange doctrines of some churches that do pray to some angels or call on some angels like Angel Michael, Angel Gabriel, Angel this , angel that...SMH

Truly, it takes the grace of God to be saved because you should have understood and changed your ways if truly you studied ( and not mere reading like that of newspapers) my very first answers or posts.

Let assume to be true your interpretation of "WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM" which justifies your action of praying to Mary. Then ponder on the following:

(*) HIM is referring to Jesus Christ who is our Lord (Agreed)

(*) WE is referring to the sons of God. John who used this pronoun is also included. 1 John 3:1-2 (Agreed)

(*) Then, who are the sons of God? Or who are the other sons of God aside from John who was speaking in 1 John 3:2. The sons of God are those who have given their lives and totality unto Jesus Christ through the redemption from sins and the nature of the first Adam, who allow Him abide in them through the Holy Spirit, who truly loves God and their neighbours, who obey and preach the perfect teachings of Jesus Christ for the salvation of the lost and the dying souls (Agreed)

(*) WE which repesents the sons of God should include John, all the apostles of Christ, even Mary, the earthly mother of Jesus and many other people either in Heaven or those who are called sons of God on the earth now and may be with Christ after their death. (Agreed)

(*) WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM in 1 John 3:2. So, after Christ has been revealed, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM. (Agreed)

(*) Since you and other catholics brought in 1 John 3:2 as the reason why Mary should be prayed to (Remember: Mary cannot represent WE alone, so Mary is apart of them), that means Mary, all the apostles of Christ, and other people who truly are the sons of God whom Christ shall appear to and because WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM should be prayed to and they hear your prayers.......hahahahaha!!!
This is seriously unbelivable. Chai!!! God! Have Mercy oooo Hey!

Sarcastically, so God cannot do His job again to hear prayers and thus, He needs the help of Mary and other saints. If the sons of God who are on earth now die, they too will be hearing prayers of those on earth.....IT IS TRULY A BLASPHEMY.

Just reason about all these things.

However my brother, read what Jesus said in Luke 16:15

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men: but God knoweth your hearts: for THAT which is HIGHYLY ESTEEMED among men is ABOMINATION in the sight of God"

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, THE ONLY MEDIATOR AND HEAVENLY INTERCESSOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN (meaning: if any man wants God to hear him and to forgive him, he only needs to speak to God through the grace in Jesus ALONE and WE SHOULD NOT PRAY TO ANYONE or CREATURE here on earth or in Heaven) Hebrews 10:19 says "Having therefore, brethren, BOLDNESS to enter into the HOLIEST by the blood of Jesus" and this verse is buttressed further in Hebrews 4:16

JESUS ONLY IS OUR MESSAGE!

Not JESUS AND MARY ARE OUR MAESSAGE!

Not JESUS AND SOME ANGELS ARE OUR MESSAGE!

But JESUS ONLY IS MY MESSAGE

If you can ask your earthly sinful mother who according to St. Paul reasons like a child and cannot see clearly...to pray for you...

...then Catholics should ask their heavenly mother...who is now like God and knows fully to pray for us.

No epistle you write can negate this.

adeniyitheprof:
So this statement - we shall be like him - has made Mary equal to God and has also enabled her to hear all the prayers of all the Catholics at the same time?

Sarcastically, before Mary existence, may be God complained to the Catholics of tiredness or his ears being blocked to hear prayers again and that may be the reason why God created Mary to help Him hear the prayers of the millions of Catholics

SO MARY IS NOW YOUR OWN GOD THAT HEARS YOUR PRAYERS!!!!!!!!

Hahahahaha.................

REMEMBER: Praying to Mary, worshiping a standing image of Jesus Christ, Mary and Pope and others detestable doctrines (which I will expose later) will forever drive away many unbelievers from the narrow path of Jesus Christ in Holiness, Righteousness and Truth

God can never be mocked or ridiculed and can never share His glory. When one dies, his/her conscience would have judged him/her before he faces God's judgement.

It is the God that said Mary is alive...and she is like God...and she knows fully.

If you dont believe that, go and fight God.

adeniyitheprof:
Has Jesus Christ appeared again OR Has the second coming of Jesus called? SMH!
But then you have NOT proved the BIBLE (not me) wrong....TRY AGAIN

If you care, study the following:

HERE IS THE OF THE EXPOSITION OF 1 JOHN 3:2

The verse 2 of Chapter 3 of the First Epistle of John talks about "The destiny of God's children."

We are God’s children now. But he has not shown us what we shall be like in the future. We know that God will change us. We will not always live as we live now. The future will be much better.
We do not yet know all the future benefits for God’s children. But one fact is certain. We shall be like Christ, the Son of God.
One day the *LORD JESUS WILL COME BACK TO TAKE HIS PEOPLE TO HEAVEN which explains when he is revealed or when he shall appear Then we shall see Jesus Christ as he is. When we see him, we shall change. All his people will change to be like him. [size=15pt]But nobody can ever be equal to him. We will not become God as he is. But we will be similar to him in character.[/size] We will live with God the Father and with the *Lord Jesus. We will never die. We will be *clean from *sin and there will be no more *sin. As Jesus is *holy, so he will make us *holy

Here is another question, HAS JESUS APPEARED OR HAS HE BEEN REVEALED? Not yet my brother

TRY AGAIN AND HARDER NEXT TIME SIR

Jesus has been revealed to Mary and the saints.

So they are now like him...that is why they hear our prayer...like him.

adeniyitheprof:
Please, read the very verse you just posted again and again and show me where it is written that saints can hold our prayer and that they hear our prayers.

Please, you cannot come online to just post a verse that saints can hold and hear our prayers... For every verse in the Holy Bible has an exposition or explanation peculiar to it...The above verse you posted is off point or is not related at all to the PRAYERS OFFERED TO THE SAINTS OR MARY

[size=15pt]TRY AGAIN AND HARDER NEXT TIME SIR[/size]

The 24 elders are saints.

adeniyitheprof:
You have not answered my question - "How could Mary and other saints in Heaven possibly hear the prayers of millions of the Catholics at the same time? because I strongly believe that the ability to hear the prayers of millions at the same time is a quality that distinguishes God, the Almighty from His creatures. Even the prophets and the angels in Heaven do not possess such power....Kamari!!! Then why given such power to Mary? It is impossible!!!"

PLEASE, ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTIONS.

As per the Queen of Heaven, Revelations 12 and Mary, you will see my reply soon by the grace of God

1John3
2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; what we will be has not yet been revealed. What we do know is this: when he is revealed, we will be like him, for we will see him as he is.

1Cor13
9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; [b]then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

Mary and the saints are now like God and they know fully... That's how they can hear prayers.

Not like you who still reasons like a child and see dimly, according to St. Paul.

“And when he [the Lamb] had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints”--Revelation 5:8

Why does the ignorant protestant believe that saints are alive and can "hold" our prayers...but they cannot hear them?

adeniyitheprof:
If I am against Catholic doctrines, it means that I am against idolatry and other heresies included in the Catholic doctrines.

You, the Catholics are fond of saying that you are the ones that brought out Bible or the first church, but I believe that the words in the Holy Bible, the KJV are written from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Whether you are the first church or not or the church that God used to compile and spread the Bible and that does not matter at all, but remember "So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen"

STICK TO THE ISSUE ABOVE ABOUT PRAYING TO MARY AND OTHER SAINTS AND PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG IF YOU CAN

[size=20pt]How could Mary and other saints in Heaven possibly hear the prayers of millions of the Catholics at the same time?[/size]

The Catholic Church is not just the first Church. It is the only Church.

KJV is an adulteration of the Bible. A counterfeit.

Mary and other saints can hear us because they are alive and not deaf as you want them to be.

adeniyitheprof:
The phrase “the queen of heaven” appears in the Bible twice, both times in the book of Jeremiah.

There is no queen of heaven. There has never been a queen of heaven. There is most certainly a King of Heaven, the Lord of hosts, Jehovah. He alone rules in heaven. He does not share His rule or His throne or His authority with anyone. The idea that Mary, the mother of Jesus, is the queen of heaven has no scriptural basis whatsoever, stemming instead from proclamations of priests and popes of the Roman Catholic Church. While Mary was certainly a godly young woman greatly blessed in that she was chosen to bear the Savior of the world, she was not in any way divine, nor was she sinless, nor is she to be worshipped, revered, venerated, or prayed to.

Then why did God almighty give her a crown in Rev 12?

adeniyitheprof:
Thank you sir. I will rather be a MUMU so as to let millions who are not aware of a great list of anomalies in the Catholic doctrines be saved than for me to be hailed or called the WISE while on earth and do nothing to save others who might be ignorant of these doctrines that take no one to God.

If you are against Catholic doctrine, you will be against the bible.

The bible is a result of Catholic doctrine. It was compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church in 382 in Rome.

Jesus and the apostles never mentioned "Bible."

adeniyitheprof:
Yes they live but they have no greater access to God than you if you are a true child of God here on earth. Hebrews 4:16

If you can answer this question logically and from the Bible perspective, then I will really be convinced.

[size=18pt]How could Mary and other saints in Heaven possibly hear the prayers of millions of the Catholics at the same time?[/size]

I strongly believe that the ability to hear the prayers of millions at the same time is a quality that distinguishes God, the Almighty from His creatures. Even the prophets and the angels in Heaven do not possess such power....Kamari!!! Then why given such power to Mary? It is impossible!!!

PROVE ME WRONG IF YOU CAN!!! OR BETTER STILL PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG AND LET ME SEE HOW

You agree that the saints are alive...

But you think they are deaf, right?

Catholic saints are not dead but alive.

John 11:26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

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Kamsified:
Welcome back bro. Where have u been na
Nice to see you again

Thanks dear.

Nice to see you too.

babestell:
Kamsified
Thank you for your valentine wishes.
@ SalC. Syncan, Kamsified, and rest of the family
Please don't mind my absence am around here in spirit. Apparently Ash Wednesday is on wednesday.....am back to celebrate the next 40 days with the holiest set of people I know on earth.
Italo...where are you...Are we not going to put up advert on homepage again.

babestell:
Kamsified

Thank you for your valentine wishes.

@ SalC. Syncan, Kamsified, and rest of the family
Please don't mind my absence am around here in spirit. Apparently Ash Wednesday is on wednesday.....am back to celebrate the next 40 days with the holiest set of people I know on earth.

Italo...where are you...Are we not going to put up advert on homepage again.

I'm here guys.

We'll do something today. Will communicate to you guys a few hours.

Good morning...nice to hear from you.

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Anas09:
Now I know why Italo is so against christ. He is Gay. A satanic recruit. Working for the Anti-Christ? Wow, u will receive ur just recompence.

Mistaken identity or drunk poster.

fuckerholic:
Yes it is !

I see. I thought I was talking to a person.

Didn't know it was a computer virus.

fuckerholic:
The fact is that catholic church always want s to be at the helm of affairs in any christian issue and now that they are not holding sway they are not happy..I tell you if catholic church are the leaders of can today nomatter what they will never pull out..just like the way peter obi of anambra state was so biased against other denominations to the extent of leaving every govt offices and ministries to their control did they ever complain or even call him to order..nonsense..let them go nobody is even complaining.

"Catholic is this"..."Catholic is that."

Is it a crime or sin to suspend activities with CAN?

zaragal:
Look son of a bitch!! Never and never u call my parents again, dey ren't ur mate, re u insane or some wat stupid?? Wat the heck is ur problem @u nd italo, is sth wrong wit u or sth... or because I was talking it cool...if u re looking to make dis hot, pls bring it on u both of u and I bet u wnt like to see hw it rolls bastard @ the both of u. I believe becos ur godforsaken father was busy teaching ur bitch of a mother a lesson thru physical abuses, u think it's the best way to treat ur woman, I ain't a bitch lyk ur gf or parent so rot in hell u two!!.. nonsesne!!

zaragal:
Who was trying insult around??... if u re looking for someone to man over, go find ur mate, who insulted who?? I make my comment before u jst attacked me to go check the mirror lyk I had a beef wit u earlier or sth, y start d fight in d first instance, go read ur first comment on my post, was I throwing an insult??.. my dear I ll be a role model to my children and if u hav a bigger wit it, go Bleep a chicken and believe me I wnt take poo frm pple like u, if I want shine, believe me it's not on Nairaland so quit trying to get notice and move on, same as naijaboiy

K