₦airaland Forum

Greyworld:
While you might av an argument about passing it to others, note that Delta state is yet to experience a case, things re at the "preventive stage" not crittical yet. so killing of that boy is wrong totally.

Even if the boy disobeyed his order a trained soldier should be able to disarm (if he was armed of course he wasnt) him and not kill him.

If he were someone you know personally you won't even say that.

What is the point of shutdown since Delta has no case?
Why not wait for some cases or deaths?

To answer your question, kindly research Italian and US responses to COVID-19.
You will understand better.

Only a foolish soldier will disarm a potential carrier of a deadly disease when it isn't
even safe to greet them from a distance.
If the soldier was wearing a biohazard suit, then he would have had no reason to shoot.

The soldier was in order, the boy should have not fled the checking point.

DanseMacabre:
The government is asking for trouble if it enforces lockdown without any cushion for the citizens.

There is no trouble.
Breach lockdown and get shot.

Good.

Nose mask is okay but PPE suits require higher standards than any random tailor can meet.

Musk has always been an attention seeker.

How can the US be facing shortages while he is planning to donate his "FDA approved" ventilators
worldwide?

It is obviously a ruse.

9jaRealist:
Absolutely NOT!

While South Korea tested relatively way more people (and much earlier on) than Western nations have done, it (building on its SARS experience and the system infrastructure developed thereafter) nonetheless primarily used aggressive contact-tracing together with ISOLATION and/or QUARANTINE to successfully tackle the rapid spread Covid-19 (and btw, success here is a relative term because it does not mean eradication and there are still new infections daily as we write). Specifically, South Korea used text messages and apps to inform/compel people who may have been in contact with a positive case to isolate, and to continually track positive cases and keep the community informed so that people may take necessary measures to protect themselves. This is why South Korea’s strategy raised privacy and human rights’ concerns.

Finally, it is simply incorrect to say that self-isolation does not work. That’s akin to saying that planes do not work - because some folks have flown them poorly and killed hundreds of folks in plane crashes. Covid-19 is NOT an airborne virus and is only spread by people moving around and being in close personal contact with others, Accordingly, proper isolation and social distancing would SUCCESSFULLY AND EFFECTIVELY break the chain of infection, slow the rate, and flatten the infection curve, allowing healthcare systems to more effectively cater for the afflicted. It’s a virus, and does not live on forever. The most unique and dangerous characteristic of Covid-19 thus far (and as a new virus, we still have much to learn about it) has been the rapid rate of infection. It is no more lethal than other coronaviruses (about a 2% mortality rate), but because of that rapidity of transmission it overwhelms the healthcare system and makes it impossible to properly manage the most extreme cases.

The bottom line, therefore, is that if you cannot test everyone (and NO country - not even South Korea - has remotely tried to do so) or even simply everyone who needs to be tested (and even in the richest and most advanced nations such as the US and even the UK, several people showing symptoms or who have been in contacts with positive cases, have experienced difficult and/or considerable delays in getting tested), the next best thing is to embark on a course of action that would most effectively or efficiently slow down (and it does NOT have to be 100% effective or compliant) the rate of infection. The real danger is NOT in having 1000 positive cases, but in having same simultaneously. If you have 1000 cases spread over 20 weeks, even a nation with a creaking healthcare system like Nigeria can successfully manage the pandemic.
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Since plane works how about you exchange your pilot with any random passenger aboard?

Just another coronavirus?
It is pointless debating any longer, this isn't politics and you haven't shown a proper
understanding of epidemics nor the risk it poses.

Useless governor.
This isn't politics where you cast doubts on the result.
They didn't even need to publicize the issue.

Due to this recklessness, Akwa Ibom indigene will no longer trust any information about Covid-19 even from their government.

seborrhic:
I maintain that there is something about our makeup as a people that makes it difficult for the Corona virus to survive in the Nigerian and/or black body.
That is why this total lockdown is ill-conceived and poorly thought out.
The world should be using our survivors as a case study of what in us disrupts the pathogenesis of the disease because virtually all the fully resident Nigerians that tested positive have fully recovered.

"I don't know anything about the virus and how it works.
Therefore, let us risk everybody's lives by exposing more people to it"

Sound like a great plan, isn't it?

sherylbakky:
It only take 8 days to treat CMD, but one month to treat the masses.

Nigeria my country.....

Congrats Prof.

There is no treatment for the disease.
His body fought it off.

darediamond:
Scenes happening you know, But The Real HIDDEN Scenes Behind the Scenes you know YOU ACTUALLY DO NOT KNOW
Those who Truly belong knows what is HAPPENING.
THEY KNOW THEMSELVES.

You said nothing.

This is the first move by any governor in Nigeria that will have a major impact on the disease.
Though the state needs at least 8 million masks.

Kenneth4u205:
I was a teenager then when it happened .how time fly

You should be dead.

sassysure:
Seems like airports are distribution grounds for this virus.
And u can't close boder completely.

You can.
But our leaders are cowards.

9jaRealist:
If contacts self-isolate (or are isolated) for 14 days and remain asymptomatic, testing is not needed. The KEY tool - attendant to contact tracing - was self-isolation in South Korea (enforced quarantine in Singapore, which did not trust people to properly self-isolate).
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Testing is needed!
Self-isolation was a failure in South Korea until the authority woke up from their false sense of security.
All it takes is one person to not cooperate. In SK, one person was reported to have infected hundreds of worshippers
by attending church service against health body's recommendation

I am discussing the practical experience of other countries not theoretical musings.
No suspected case should be free without testing.

No single country has been successful via self-isolation.
It failed in the UK, the US, Italy, Spain and almost drag down Germany before their government wake up.

It is a combination of test + quarantine + face mask + retesting.
I would rather the country is safe than gambling with some failed strategy.

No problem.
You will soon contract the virus.
You stopped Nigerians from coming in with Rice but can't stop them from importing disease.

Greyworld:
While I will agree with you that it is foolish to pick a fight with the Army , I believe the Nigeria Army knows people are being deprived of their freedom of movement.

Hence leather force ain't necessary until it becomes necessary (Which i believe was not the case here) what happens to pepper spray or tear gas, blank or rubber bullet? why kill the young man?

You are preventing someone from moving around so he doesn't contract the virus an die and you just shot him... what's the point.

In fact I don't think the Army was suppose to be sent there in the first place... This ain't no war or state of emergency (choas).

The government didn't say someone shouldn't kill themself but they must do it alone.
The man was shot for threatening the health of the majority and not to protect him.

koffsman:
If the army are not called to order this will lead to war all this boys sef get better guns for hand hummmm tame your dogs before it gets out of hand

They get better guns but can't confront herdsmen.
Okowa had to be begging the FG to help him stop bandits.

TIMEISWISDOM:
You don't get tested till you show symptoms. Until then self isolate. Enough of the alarms

That is a sure way to cause a local epidemic.
Many countries have learnt the hard way

You should get tested if you have any possible contacts with an infected person.
That is how South Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong stopped the exponential growth.

nairaman66:
And you are the doctor who certified him positive for coronavirus? How do you people reason?

Good question to ask yourself.
The reason why everyone should stay at home is that we don't want new cases or
spreading of the disease.

Whether you are positive or not is irrelevant, you can still take the virus home when you
are roaming around.

Conspiracy theorists will be confused by this news.

How can Akwaibom not be interested in looting via the scam virus?

hammer0:
NIGERIA ARMY AND POLICE MUST LEARN TO FEAR US.


WE PAY THEIR SALARY.



WE FEED THEIR FAMILIES



WE GIVE DEM JOBS.



THEY MUST LEARN TO TREAT US WITH RESPECT.



ENOUGH IS ENOUGH OF THEIR GRA GRA.



ANY NONSENSE WE BEAT THEM UP, KILL DEM LIKE CRIMINALS.



JUST BECOS U WEAR CAMOFLAGE NO MEANS SAY NA U STRONG PASS OR NA U GET MIND PASS.



IT MEANS U ARE OLODO, THAT DONT KNOW BOOK, SO U JOIN ARMY MAKE HUNGRY NO KILL U.



REST IN PIECES BIATCH!

The idiot flouted the stay at home rule and was racing on the road.
He had it coming.

Queenflourish:
He said he'll share money on Twitter
Audio money

Don't be an online Almajiri.

It is quite a shame.
Even if Nigeria needs to beg(not right), it shouldn't be to the arrogant Musk.

The US has a shortage of equipment and could use more but Musk is chasing
clout by promising a worldwide delivery. Charity begins at home.

cococandy:
Honey I posted in reply to your comment that Nigerians are mostly below average earners in the USA. You should know that education and skill is actually power which in most cases translates to more income..

No. I posted that they are average and below-average earners and couldn't afford to buy a house from 3 years' savings.
Then, you started talking about education and making comparisons. This is irrelevant as we have real numbers for comparison instead
of flawed correlation.

If you’re following basic statistics, that doesn’t necessarily apply to Nigerian immigrants.

Why shouldn't it?

They don’t come to America and live here with the same drive as people who have always been here and are used to not struggling for basic things. That extra drive often amounts to more income.

Drive has no effect on potential income when you correct for skills.
If the average software engineer earns 150K per year, there is no reason
why a Nigerian immigrant with similar skills will earn significantly higher than others.
Same applies to Nigerian immigrants in Ghana, for example, we wouldn't expect similar-skilled
employee of Nigerian origin to simply out-earn the native just because they are immigrants.

Here are some links that talk about average Nigerian-American income.

USA poverty level is around $25,000 for a family of four and $32,000 for a family of 6 As of 2020.

Average Nigerian household income is above $60,000. So no! We are not low income earners like you generalized earlier. Neither am I claiming that Nigerians are rich. Just easy on the generalizations. Thanks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/u-could-actually-more-nigerian-133011858.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/u-could-actually-more-nigerian-133011858.html

You are probably conflating 2 figures, poverty level, and average income.
The average income of a native-born American is not $32000, unfortunately, the article did not state the native-born
average income but compared Nigerian income with the rest of the US.

I didn't generalize, I merely stated a statistical reality common to ALL immigrant demographics with a significant population in the US.
That they likely earn an average income or lower(this applies to recent immigrant)
Consequent on the above, they are no more likely to own a home than the native-born.


There is no reason why Nigerians should earn higher than any other similarly-skilled citizens.

This is a line from your yahoo link:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-could-actually-more-nigerian-133011858.html
I am even surprised that it even went beyond what I expected.

Nigerian-Americans are more likely to have jobs than the rest of us, and much more likely to have college degrees. They’re also much less likely to own their homes, and slightly more likely to be below the poverty line — although they’re less likely to collect the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits commonly known as food stamps. Nigerian-Americans are younger (median age is 31.6, compared with 38.2 for the U.S. overall), more likely to live in big cities (at least, that’s how I interpret the relatively high share of public transportation users), more likely to work in education and health care (there are a lot of Nigerian-American doctors) and slightly more likely to be married.

The quote above buttresses my argument.
That a group may have some of the best-educated and employed people and still earn average income as a whole.


My point still stands if the native-born are struggling to own a home in the US just by saving, there is no reason why we
should expect any different from Nigerian immigrants.

Unless of course, the immigrants are earning double or triple the average native-born income which is quite a fantasy.

nineone:
nothing happens because y'all are lilly livered without any iota of courage. Even blaming those that showed some courage in their own little way.

Savagery is not courage.
The same foolish mob will run if herdsmen showed up in their street.

nairaman66:
You are a big fool with fowl brains! What warrant such stupid actions from the soldier in the first place? Was the deceased an armed robber caught with firearms? An innocent man was killed by a drunk god forsaken being called a soldier and you are thinking of reprisal attacks!

If the Nigeria people can come together in this evil times, the Nigerian Army needs to be kept in check! Their atrocities are too numerous to mention! This deceased could be anyone brother, father or friend!!

The man is not innocent.
He is a fool for trying to spread disease when there is a stay at home order.

correctguy2010:
Soldiers in this country don't have sense. Warri is a different zone entirely. This is not the first time warri is having a problem with soldiers, more soldiers will go down and nothing will happen.

There is nothing special about Warri.
If Tompolo could run away and herdsmen could be operating freely, who are this mob to stand?

Run from that area if you live there.

correctguy2010:
Keep quiet, soldiers don't have any right to kill harmless civilians. Warri is an entirely different place. Go and do your findings, ask JTF

The foolish boy is not harmless.
He risked everybody's life by driving recklessly on the road when there is a stay at home order.
It is easy to spew trash as an online warrior.

Match your word with action, move to that area to offer support to the mob who are about to experience a Tsunami.

Postnobill704:
Soldier killed the young man AND RAN AWAY....Why did he run if he know what he did was right..bleeped up security forces .. zombies

If he ran away, how was he caught and killed?

I pity this mob.
When herdsmen where raiding communities and killing people.
They ran away and did nothing.
But they had the mind to mob soldiers and even kill one.

If you live in that area, it is time to stop staying at home, move to somewhere safer.

Waiting for Trump worshippers to defend these numbers while lambasting their country.

I am not against anti-government positions but it should be factual, specific and balanced.

MckenzieSkyBlog:
Forget about the picture...Go confirm the news online

As a responsible internet user, I will not visit websites that peddle fake news.